Re: [Pharo-project] this style looks cool

2010-08-31 Thread Geert Claes


Tudor Girba wrote:
 
 ...
 
 Some of the icons that you see are shipped with Seaside. The blueish  
 bubble denotes an announcement and is already present in Pharo.
 
 ...
 

I like it too.  Regarding the icons, is there somewhere a description of all
the icons used as some are more self-explanatory than others?
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Re: [Pharo-project] this style looks cool

2010-08-31 Thread Tudor Girba

Hi,

The simplest way to learn what the icon is saying is to just spawn the  
hierarchy view of that class, and the top most class that has the same  
icon is the one that the icon is supposed to be representing :).


Cheers,
Doru



On 31 Aug 2010, at 10:05, Geert Claes wrote:




Tudor Girba wrote:


...

Some of the icons that you see are shipped with Seaside. The blueish
bubble denotes an announcement and is already present in Pharo.

...



I like it too.  Regarding the icons, is there somewhere a  
description of all

the icons used as some are more self-explanatory than others?
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Re: [Pharo-project] this style looks cool

2010-08-30 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
people got excited :)

On Aug 30, 2010, at 12:55 AM, j...@anymorphic.com wrote:

 Tudor Girba tudor.gi...@... writes:
 
 
 Is this Theme available?
 
 I can push the change monday morning.
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Re: [Pharo-project] this style looks cool

2010-08-30 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
Hi ja

did you sign the license agreement?
Just if you want your code to be in pharo: but may impression is that it would 
be a nice advertisement for your company 
the AnyMorphic style.

Stef


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 I can push the change monday morning.
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Re: [Pharo-project] this style looks cool

2010-08-30 Thread ja

Stéphane Ducasse stephane.duca...@... writes:
 did you sign the license agreement?

For the License, I send a fax to you, now. 
I pushed the changes used and created by Anymorphic into Pharo-Inbox 
under the Name Polymorph-Themes-Pro. 


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Re: [Pharo-project] this style looks cool

2010-08-30 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
thanks

I will check if the inria secretary got it.
Stef

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 did you sign the license agreement?
 
 For the License, I send a fax to you, now. 
 I pushed the changes used and created by Anymorphic into Pharo-Inbox 
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Re: [Pharo-project] this style looks cool

2010-08-30 Thread Mariano Martinez Peck
On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 11:13 AM, j...@anymorphic.com 
j...@anymorphic.comwrote:


 Stéphane Ducasse stephane.duca...@... writes:
  did you sign the license agreement?

 For the License, I send a fax to you, now.
 I pushed the changes used and created by Anymorphic into Pharo-Inbox
 under the Name Polymorph-Themes-Pro.


this is awesome!!! I have just tested in Pharo 1.1 and it is really really
cool. I love it.

I will use it for all my images :)

Hope it is integrated in Pharo. If people don't agree, not as default, but
at least include it so that those who want can set it and use it.

Thanks a lot

mariano



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[Pharo-project] this style looks cool

2010-08-29 Thread stephane ducasse
http://www.anymorphic.com/softwareentwicklung.html

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Re: [Pharo-project] this style looks cool

2010-08-29 Thread Steven R. Baker

 http://www.anymorphic.com/softwareentwicklung.html

I love that style, but I'd like to see the OS X jolly rancher buttons go away.

-Steven


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Re: [Pharo-project] this style looks cool

2010-08-29 Thread Tudor Girba

Is this Theme available?

Cheers,
Doru


On 29 Aug 2010, at 20:19, Steven R. Baker wrote:




http://www.anymorphic.com/softwareentwicklung.html


I love that style, but I'd like to see the OS X jolly rancher  
buttons go away.


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Re: [Pharo-project] this style looks cool

2010-08-29 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
Hi steven


 
 http://www.anymorphic.com/softwareentwicklung.html
 
 I love that style, but I'd like to see the OS X jolly rancher buttons go away.

what are these?

Stef

 
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Re: [Pharo-project] this style looks cool

2010-08-29 Thread Steven R. Baker
 http://www.anymorphic.com/softwareentwicklung.html
 
 I love that style, but I'd like to see the OS X jolly rancher buttons go 
 away.
 
 what are these?

The window buttons on the top left that mimic OS X.  Jolly Ranchers are candy: 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jolly_Rancher

-Steven


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Re: [Pharo-project] this style looks cool

2010-08-29 Thread Tudor Girba

It looks like this page is not on the Pharo success stories page.

Cheers,
Doru


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http://www.anymorphic.com/softwareentwicklung.html

Stef

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Re: [Pharo-project] this style looks cool

2010-08-29 Thread Adrian Lienhard
It is in the list of companies at the right side.

BTW, I also very much like this style. There's not a lot changed compared to 
the default style (mainly the buttons and the button bar background) but it 
looks much better.

Cheers,
Adrian  

On Aug 29, 2010, at 20:31 , Tudor Girba wrote:

 It looks like this page is not on the Pharo success stories page.
 
 Cheers,
 Doru
 
 
 On 29 Aug 2010, at 20:17, stephane ducasse wrote:
 
 http://www.anymorphic.com/softwareentwicklung.html
 
 Stef
 
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Re: [Pharo-project] this style looks cool

2010-08-29 Thread Stéphane Ducasse

On Aug 29, 2010, at 8:30 PM, Steven R. Baker wrote:

 http://www.anymorphic.com/softwareentwicklung.html
 
 I love that style, but I'd like to see the OS X jolly rancher buttons go 
 away.

Ok now I got it. :)
Indeed!
I was thinking that there is also a lot of things in general that I would like 
to see go away. I'm trying to rewrite some of the code of Utilities
Stef

 
 what are these?
 
 The window buttons on the top left that mimic OS X.  Jolly Ranchers are 
 candy: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jolly_Rancher
 
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Re: [Pharo-project] this style looks cool

2010-08-29 Thread Schwab,Wilhelm K
Stef,

The first thing I notice in it is background colors, or is it just variation in 
backlighting on my monitor?  Have we evolved to the point that background 
colors can be readily set?  Last I looked into it, there was mention of a 
background style that I could never find.

Another thing is that a large fraction of the classes have icons associated 
with them.  Dolphin makes that easy to do: just implement a class-side #icon, 
which I always did in terms of a rich set of class icons present in the base 
system, so I never had to mess with the details.  It would be nice if it were 
that easy in Pharo; when well designed, such icons can aid perception.  Since I 
constantly praise Dolphin, I will point out that D6's use of apples for most 
classes was not the best choice.  It was visually grating and lead to a rather 
unprofessional look in a deployed executable where I had previously never given 
a second thought when the default icon was a dot.  A rich (and expendable) set 
of clean icons for collections/composites, views, plugs/sockets, various 
metaphors that are easy to associate with one's own classes would be helpful.

This might be similar to Dolphin's ability to apply multiple categories to a 
method: you won't miss it if you have never had access to it, but it is a 
*good* thing to have.

Bill




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Re: [Pharo-project] this style looks cool

2010-08-29 Thread Tudor Girba

Hi Bill,

The icons are available the OB browser by overriding #browserIcon.

Some of the icons that you see are shipped with Seaside. The blueish  
bubble denotes an announcement and is already present in Pharo.


Cheers,
Doru


On 29 Aug 2010, at 20:43, Schwab,Wilhelm K wrote:


Stef,

The first thing I notice in it is background colors, or is it just  
variation in backlighting on my monitor?  Have we evolved to the  
point that background colors can be readily set?  Last I looked into  
it, there was mention of a background style that I could never find.


Another thing is that a large fraction of the classes have icons  
associated with them.  Dolphin makes that easy to do: just implement  
a class-side #icon, which I always did in terms of a rich set of  
class icons present in the base system, so I never had to mess with  
the details.  It would be nice if it were that easy in Pharo; when  
well designed, such icons can aid perception.  Since I constantly  
praise Dolphin, I will point out that D6's use of apples for most  
classes was not the best choice.  It was visually grating and lead  
to a rather unprofessional look in a deployed executable where I had  
previously never given a second thought when the default icon was a  
dot.  A rich (and expendable) set of clean icons for collections/ 
composites, views, plugs/sockets, various metaphors that are easy to  
associate with one's own classes would be helpful.


This might be similar to Dolphin's ability to apply multiple  
categories to a method: you won't miss it if you have never had  
access to it, but it is a *good* thing to have.


Bill




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Re: [Pharo-project] this style looks cool

2010-08-29 Thread Mariano Martinez Peck
I like this style also. Would love to have such theme available in Pharo :)

On Sun, Aug 29, 2010 at 8:48 PM, Tudor Girba tudor.gi...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi Bill,

 The icons are available the OB browser by overriding #browserIcon.

 Some of the icons that you see are shipped with Seaside. The blueish bubble
 denotes an announcement and is already present in Pharo.

 Cheers,
 Doru



 On 29 Aug 2010, at 20:43, Schwab,Wilhelm K wrote:

  Stef,

 The first thing I notice in it is background colors, or is it just
 variation in backlighting on my monitor?  Have we evolved to the point that
 background colors can be readily set?  Last I looked into it, there was
 mention of a background style that I could never find.

 Another thing is that a large fraction of the classes have icons
 associated with them.  Dolphin makes that easy to do: just implement a
 class-side #icon, which I always did in terms of a rich set of class icons
 present in the base system, so I never had to mess with the details.  It
 would be nice if it were that easy in Pharo; when well designed, such icons
 can aid perception.  Since I constantly praise Dolphin, I will point out
 that D6's use of apples for most classes was not the best choice.  It was
 visually grating and lead to a rather unprofessional look in a deployed
 executable where I had previously never given a second thought when the
 default icon was a dot.  A rich (and expendable) set of clean icons for
 collections/composites, views, plugs/sockets, various metaphors that are
 easy to associate with one's own classes would be helpful.

 This might be similar to Dolphin's ability to apply multiple categories to
 a method: you won't miss it if you have never had access to it, but it is a
 *good* thing to have.

 Bill



 
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Re: [Pharo-project] this style looks cool

2010-08-29 Thread Mariano Martinez Peck
On Sun, Aug 29, 2010 at 11:06 PM, Stéphane Ducasse 
stephane.duca...@inria.fr wrote:

 contact the guy of anymorphic :)


and that guy is.. ?


 Stef

 On Aug 29, 2010, at 10:54 PM, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote:

  I like this style also. Would love to have such theme available in Pharo
 :)
 
  On Sun, Aug 29, 2010 at 8:48 PM, Tudor Girba tudor.gi...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  Hi Bill,
 
  The icons are available the OB browser by overriding #browserIcon.
 
  Some of the icons that you see are shipped with Seaside. The blueish
 bubble denotes an announcement and is already present in Pharo.
 
  Cheers,
  Doru
 
 
 
  On 29 Aug 2010, at 20:43, Schwab,Wilhelm K wrote:
 
  Stef,
 
  The first thing I notice in it is background colors, or is it just
 variation in backlighting on my monitor?  Have we evolved to the point that
 background colors can be readily set?  Last I looked into it, there was
 mention of a background style that I could never find.
 
  Another thing is that a large fraction of the classes have icons
 associated with them.  Dolphin makes that easy to do: just implement a
 class-side #icon, which I always did in terms of a rich set of class icons
 present in the base system, so I never had to mess with the details.  It
 would be nice if it were that easy in Pharo; when well designed, such icons
 can aid perception.  Since I constantly praise Dolphin, I will point out
 that D6's use of apples for most classes was not the best choice.  It was
 visually grating and lead to a rather unprofessional look in a deployed
 executable where I had previously never given a second thought when the
 default icon was a dot.  A rich (and expendable) set of clean icons for
 collections/composites, views, plugs/sockets, various metaphors that are
 easy to associate with one's own classes would be helpful.
 
  This might be similar to Dolphin's ability to apply multiple categories
 to a method: you won't miss it if you have never had access to it, but it is
 a *good* thing to have.
 
  Bill
 
 
 
  
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  http://www.anymorphic.com/softwareentwicklung.html
 
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Re: [Pharo-project] this style looks cool

2010-08-29 Thread Schwab,Wilhelm K
Doru,

That gets me a step closer to understanding them, but all I see so far are 
symbols.  #browserIcon:selector: is getting complicated.  Dolphin's sending 
#icon to classes being displayed a lot more clear, although I suspect some of 
the complexity in OB is to allow things like the success/failure icons in test 
cases - I'm not sure whether Dolphin has an answer to that??

What are the icon choices, and how would I add to them?

Bill




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Hi Bill,

The icons are available the OB browser by overriding #browserIcon.

Some of the icons that you see are shipped with Seaside. The blueish
bubble denotes an announcement and is already present in Pharo.

Cheers,
Doru


On 29 Aug 2010, at 20:43, Schwab,Wilhelm K wrote:

 Stef,

 The first thing I notice in it is background colors, or is it just
 variation in backlighting on my monitor?  Have we evolved to the
 point that background colors can be readily set?  Last I looked into
 it, there was mention of a background style that I could never find.

 Another thing is that a large fraction of the classes have icons
 associated with them.  Dolphin makes that easy to do: just implement
 a class-side #icon, which I always did in terms of a rich set of
 class icons present in the base system, so I never had to mess with
 the details.  It would be nice if it were that easy in Pharo; when
 well designed, such icons can aid perception.  Since I constantly
 praise Dolphin, I will point out that D6's use of apples for most
 classes was not the best choice.  It was visually grating and lead
 to a rather unprofessional look in a deployed executable where I had
 previously never given a second thought when the default icon was a
 dot.  A rich (and expendable) set of clean icons for collections/
 composites, views, plugs/sockets, various metaphors that are easy to
 associate with one's own classes would be helpful.

 This might be similar to Dolphin's ability to apply multiple
 categories to a method: you won't miss it if you have never had
 access to it, but it is a *good* thing to have.

 Bill



 
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Re: [Pharo-project] this style looks cool

2010-08-29 Thread ja
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 Is this Theme available?

I can push the change monday morning.
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Re: [Pharo-project] this style looks cool

2010-08-29 Thread Tudor Girba

Hi Bill,

As I said, all you have to do is to override #browserIcon on the class  
side of your class to return a symbol that corresponds to a method in  
OBMorphicIcons. Please look at the implementors of #browserIcon.


For example:

Announcement classbrowserIcon
^ #announcement

OBMorphicIconsannouncement
^ ((ColorForm
extent: 1...@12
depth: 8
fromArray: ...


Cheers,
Doru



On 30 Aug 2010, at 00:02, Schwab,Wilhelm K wrote:


Doru,

That gets me a step closer to understanding them, but all I see so  
far are symbols.  #browserIcon:selector: is getting complicated.   
Dolphin's sending #icon to classes being displayed a lot more clear,  
although I suspect some of the complexity in OB is to allow things  
like the success/failure icons in test cases - I'm not sure whether  
Dolphin has an answer to that??


What are the icon choices, and how would I add to them?

Bill




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Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] this style looks cool

Hi Bill,

The icons are available the OB browser by overriding #browserIcon.

Some of the icons that you see are shipped with Seaside. The blueish
bubble denotes an announcement and is already present in Pharo.

Cheers,
Doru


On 29 Aug 2010, at 20:43, Schwab,Wilhelm K wrote:


Stef,

The first thing I notice in it is background colors, or is it just
variation in backlighting on my monitor?  Have we evolved to the
point that background colors can be readily set?  Last I looked into
it, there was mention of a background style that I could never find.

Another thing is that a large fraction of the classes have icons
associated with them.  Dolphin makes that easy to do: just implement
a class-side #icon, which I always did in terms of a rich set of
class icons present in the base system, so I never had to mess with
the details.  It would be nice if it were that easy in Pharo; when
well designed, such icons can aid perception.  Since I constantly
praise Dolphin, I will point out that D6's use of apples for most
classes was not the best choice.  It was visually grating and lead
to a rather unprofessional look in a deployed executable where I had
previously never given a second thought when the default icon was a
dot.  A rich (and expendable) set of clean icons for collections/
composites, views, plugs/sockets, various metaphors that are easy to
associate with one's own classes would be helpful.

This might be similar to Dolphin's ability to apply multiple
categories to a method: you won't miss it if you have never had
access to it, but it is a *good* thing to have.

Bill




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Subject: [Pharo-project] this style looks cool

http://www.anymorphic.com/softwareentwicklung.html

Stef

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