[Pharo-users] Mugs 'n' stuff

2013-06-08 Thread Jeff Gray
ok so I need to be writing code in Pharo whilst drinking coffee from a Pharo
branded coffee mug. Am I right? Yes of course I am.
I'll start 3 discussions:
1. What mechanism for the store front.
2. What images and message do we want to convey.
3. What products do we most want.
Then, depending on what comes out of that I'll follow up to get something in
place that will at least please some of the people some of the time.
Pharo is hot! We need to celebrate it.



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[Pharo-users] Mugs 'n' stuff - Mechanism

2013-06-08 Thread Jeff Gray
How are we going to run the logistics of the Pharo merchandising?

I have run a small business selling domain specific t-shirts, hats etc and I
had a small online store running on a web server.
That's nice from the point of view that it's sole purpose is the domain, but
on the down side then it is a business with someone looking after stock and
mailing etc.

CafePress is an alternative. It seems pretty good at first glance. You can
create your own designs and they do all the manufacture and shipping. The
prices look ok and they are global. On te down side you are part of a
massive base of products. I haven't looked in depth yet. There may be
pitfalls.

Anybody have any experience of them or any other suggestions?



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Re: [Pharo-users] Mugs 'n' stuff

2013-06-08 Thread Clément Bera
I have to agree.

I would love to have a Pharo T-shirt. And I think I know some other people
that would be interested :)

Perhaps we could also get Pharo ecocups that we can provide for the sprints
as an environment-friendly alternative of plastic glasses.


2013/6/8 Jeff Gray 

> ok so I need to be writing code in Pharo whilst drinking coffee from a
> Pharo
> branded coffee mug. Am I right? Yes of course I am.
> I'll start 3 discussions:
> 1. What mechanism for the store front.
> 2. What images and message do we want to convey.
> 3. What products do we most want.
> Then, depending on what comes out of that I'll follow up to get something
> in
> place that will at least please some of the people some of the time.
> Pharo is hot! We need to celebrate it.
>
>
>
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Re: [Pharo-users] Mugs 'n' stuff

2013-06-08 Thread Sven Van Caekenberghe

On 08 Jun 2013, at 15:16, Clément Bera  wrote:

> I have to agree. 
> 
> I would love to have a Pharo T-shirt. And I think I know some other people 
> that would be interested :) 

+1

But we need über cool geeky designs as well.

> Perhaps we could also get Pharo ecocups that we can provide for the sprints 
> as an environment-friendly alternative of plastic glasses. 
> 
> 
> 2013/6/8 Jeff Gray 
> ok so I need to be writing code in Pharo whilst drinking coffee from a Pharo
> branded coffee mug. Am I right? Yes of course I am.
> I'll start 3 discussions:
> 1. What mechanism for the store front.
> 2. What images and message do we want to convey.
> 3. What products do we most want.
> Then, depending on what comes out of that I'll follow up to get something in
> place that will at least please some of the people some of the time.
> Pharo is hot! We need to celebrate it.
> 
> -- 
> Clément Béra
> Mate Virtual Machine Engineer
> Bâtiment B 40, avenue Halley 59650 Villeneuve d'Ascq

What a cool title is that !!

I am jealous ;-)

Sven


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Re: [Pharo-users] Mugs 'n' stuff

2013-06-08 Thread Sean P. DeNigris
Jeff Gray wrote
> Pharo is hot! We need to celebrate it.

Damn right!!!



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Re: [Pharo-users] Blog Entry About Pharo

2013-06-08 Thread Sean P. DeNigris
Bahman Movaqar wrote
> I wrote a blog entry[1] about Pharo and would appreciate your opinions
> and possible corrections.

Very nice overview. Thanks for writing it. I will tweet...



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Re: [Pharo-users] Mugs 'n' stuff

2013-06-08 Thread Stéphane Ducasse

On Jun 8, 2013, at 3:21 PM, Sven Van Caekenberghe  wrote:

> 
> On 08 Jun 2013, at 15:16, Clément Bera  wrote:
> 
>> I have to agree. 
>> 
>> I would love to have a Pharo T-shirt. And I think I know some other people 
>> that would be interested :) 
> 
> +1
> 
> But we need über cool geeky designs as well.

Yes
I would love to cool and nicely design pharo mug and tshirt.


> 
>> Perhaps we could also get Pharo ecocups that we can provide for the sprints 
>> as an environment-friendly alternative of plastic glasses. 
>> 
>> 
>> 2013/6/8 Jeff Gray 
>> ok so I need to be writing code in Pharo whilst drinking coffee from a Pharo
>> branded coffee mug. Am I right? Yes of course I am.
>> I'll start 3 discussions:
>> 1. What mechanism for the store front.
>> 2. What images and message do we want to convey.
>> 3. What products do we most want.
>> Then, depending on what comes out of that I'll follow up to get something in
>> place that will at least please some of the people some of the time.
>> Pharo is hot! We need to celebrate it.
>> 
>> -- 
>> Clément Béra
>> Mate Virtual Machine Engineer
>> Bâtiment B 40, avenue Halley 59650 Villeneuve d'Ascq
> 
> What a cool title is that !!
> 
> I am jealous ;-)
> 
> Sven
> 
> 
> --
> Sven Van Caekenberghe
> Proudly supporting Pharo
> http://pharo.org
> http://association.pharo.org
> http://consortium.pharo.org
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 




Re: [Pharo-users] Mugs 'n' stuff - Mechanism

2013-06-08 Thread Stéphane Ducasse

> How are we going to run the logistics of the Pharo merchandising?
> 
> I have run a small business selling domain specific t-shirts, hats etc and I
> had a small online store running on a web server.
> That's nice from the point of view that it's sole purpose is the domain, but
> on the down side then it is a business with someone looking after stock and
> mailing etc.

Yes not something that we want to do :)

> 
> CafePress is an alternative. It seems pretty good at first glance. You can
> create your own designs and they do all the manufacture and shipping. The
> prices look ok and they are global. On te down side you are part of a
> massive base of products. I haven't looked in depth yet. There may be
> pitfalls.
> 
> Anybody have any experience of them or any other suggestions?

In the past we did some mugs and tshirt for squeak and the squeak foundation 
with cafePress. I was ok. Now they probably improved. I hope :)



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Re: [Pharo-users] Mugs 'n' stuff

2013-06-08 Thread Kenneth Pullen
I'd personally like stickers. I'm about to have some vinyl stickers
printed by the Sticker Guy (https://www.stickerguy.com/index.html). If
you're interested I'll let you know how they turn out. It'll be a few
weeks before I get them in, though.
<3 Ken


On Sat, Jun 8, 2013 at 7:50 AM, Stéphane Ducasse
 wrote:
>
> On Jun 8, 2013, at 3:21 PM, Sven Van Caekenberghe  wrote:
>
>>
>> On 08 Jun 2013, at 15:16, Clément Bera  wrote:
>>
>>> I have to agree.
>>>
>>> I would love to have a Pharo T-shirt. And I think I know some other people 
>>> that would be interested :)
>>
>> +1
>>
>> But we need über cool geeky designs as well.
>
> Yes
> I would love to cool and nicely design pharo mug and tshirt.
>
>
>>
>>> Perhaps we could also get Pharo ecocups that we can provide for the sprints 
>>> as an environment-friendly alternative of plastic glasses.
>>>
>>>
>>> 2013/6/8 Jeff Gray 
>>> ok so I need to be writing code in Pharo whilst drinking coffee from a Pharo
>>> branded coffee mug. Am I right? Yes of course I am.
>>> I'll start 3 discussions:
>>> 1. What mechanism for the store front.
>>> 2. What images and message do we want to convey.
>>> 3. What products do we most want.
>>> Then, depending on what comes out of that I'll follow up to get something in
>>> place that will at least please some of the people some of the time.
>>> Pharo is hot! We need to celebrate it.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Clément Béra
>>> Mate Virtual Machine Engineer
>>> Bâtiment B 40, avenue Halley 59650 Villeneuve d'Ascq
>>
>> What a cool title is that !!
>>
>> I am jealous ;-)
>>
>> Sven
>>
>>
>> --
>> Sven Van Caekenberghe
>> Proudly supporting Pharo
>> http://pharo.org
>> http://association.pharo.org
>> http://consortium.pharo.org
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>



Re: [Pharo-users] Mugs 'n' stuff

2013-06-08 Thread Mariano Martinez Peck
+9. I would love a mug :)
And sticker for laptop is also nice!


On Sat, Jun 8, 2013 at 12:05 PM, Kenneth Pullen wrote:

> I'd personally like stickers. I'm about to have some vinyl stickers
> printed by the Sticker Guy (https://www.stickerguy.com/index.html). If
> you're interested I'll let you know how they turn out. It'll be a few
> weeks before I get them in, though.
> <3 Ken
>
>
> On Sat, Jun 8, 2013 at 7:50 AM, Stéphane Ducasse
>  wrote:
> >
> > On Jun 8, 2013, at 3:21 PM, Sven Van Caekenberghe  wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> On 08 Jun 2013, at 15:16, Clément Bera  wrote:
> >>
> >>> I have to agree.
> >>>
> >>> I would love to have a Pharo T-shirt. And I think I know some other
> people that would be interested :)
> >>
> >> +1
> >>
> >> But we need über cool geeky designs as well.
> >
> > Yes
> > I would love to cool and nicely design pharo mug and tshirt.
> >
> >
> >>
> >>> Perhaps we could also get Pharo ecocups that we can provide for the
> sprints as an environment-friendly alternative of plastic glasses.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> 2013/6/8 Jeff Gray 
> >>> ok so I need to be writing code in Pharo whilst drinking coffee from a
> Pharo
> >>> branded coffee mug. Am I right? Yes of course I am.
> >>> I'll start 3 discussions:
> >>> 1. What mechanism for the store front.
> >>> 2. What images and message do we want to convey.
> >>> 3. What products do we most want.
> >>> Then, depending on what comes out of that I'll follow up to get
> something in
> >>> place that will at least please some of the people some of the time.
> >>> Pharo is hot! We need to celebrate it.
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> Clément Béra
> >>> Mate Virtual Machine Engineer
> >>> Bâtiment B 40, avenue Halley 59650 Villeneuve d'Ascq
> >>
> >> What a cool title is that !!
> >>
> >> I am jealous ;-)
> >>
> >> Sven
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Sven Van Caekenberghe
> >> Proudly supporting Pharo
> >> http://pharo.org
> >> http://association.pharo.org
> >> http://consortium.pharo.org
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
>


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Re: [Pharo-users] Mugs 'n' stuff

2013-06-08 Thread Stéphane Ducasse

On Jun 8, 2013, at 5:44 PM, Mariano Martinez Peck  wrote:

> +9. I would love a mug :)
> And sticker for laptop is also nice!

yes

> 
> 
> On Sat, Jun 8, 2013 at 12:05 PM, Kenneth Pullen  
> wrote:
> I'd personally like stickers. I'm about to have some vinyl stickers
> printed by the Sticker Guy (https://www.stickerguy.com/index.html). If
> you're interested I'll let you know how they turn out. It'll be a few
> weeks before I get them in, though.
> <3 Ken
> 
> 
> On Sat, Jun 8, 2013 at 7:50 AM, Stéphane Ducasse
>  wrote:
> >
> > On Jun 8, 2013, at 3:21 PM, Sven Van Caekenberghe  wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> On 08 Jun 2013, at 15:16, Clément Bera  wrote:
> >>
> >>> I have to agree.
> >>>
> >>> I would love to have a Pharo T-shirt. And I think I know some other 
> >>> people that would be interested :)
> >>
> >> +1
> >>
> >> But we need über cool geeky designs as well.
> >
> > Yes
> > I would love to cool and nicely design pharo mug and tshirt.
> >
> >
> >>
> >>> Perhaps we could also get Pharo ecocups that we can provide for the 
> >>> sprints as an environment-friendly alternative of plastic glasses.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> 2013/6/8 Jeff Gray 
> >>> ok so I need to be writing code in Pharo whilst drinking coffee from a 
> >>> Pharo
> >>> branded coffee mug. Am I right? Yes of course I am.
> >>> I'll start 3 discussions:
> >>> 1. What mechanism for the store front.
> >>> 2. What images and message do we want to convey.
> >>> 3. What products do we most want.
> >>> Then, depending on what comes out of that I'll follow up to get something 
> >>> in
> >>> place that will at least please some of the people some of the time.
> >>> Pharo is hot! We need to celebrate it.
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> Clément Béra
> >>> Mate Virtual Machine Engineer
> >>> Bâtiment B 40, avenue Halley 59650 Villeneuve d'Ascq
> >>
> >> What a cool title is that !!
> >>
> >> I am jealous ;-)
> >>
> >> Sven
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Sven Van Caekenberghe
> >> Proudly supporting Pharo
> >> http://pharo.org
> >> http://association.pharo.org
> >> http://consortium.pharo.org
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Mariano
> http://marianopeck.wordpress.com



[Pharo-users] inspect returns iOf SystemWindow and not receiver

2013-06-08 Thread Sabine Knöfel
Hi,

while developing my app with seaside, I sometimes use inspect within any
statement.
I am used from Pharo 1.4 and from other smalltalk dialects, that >>inspect
returns the receiver itself.
But in Pharo 2.0 it returns an instance of SystemWindow.
I dont see any sense in that. It that with intent?

Sabine



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Re: [Pharo-users] Mugs 'n' stuff - Mechanism

2013-06-08 Thread Jeff Gray
Zazzle is another site that could give us a range of international sites. 
(I'm guessing this model would keep costs and delivery times down for the
consumer)



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Re: [Pharo-users] inspect returns iOf SystemWindow and not receiver

2013-06-08 Thread Igor Stasenko
On 8 June 2013 20:29, Sabine Knöfel  wrote:
> Hi,
>
> while developing my app with seaside, I sometimes use inspect within any
> statement.
> I am used from Pharo 1.4 and from other smalltalk dialects, that >>inspect
> returns the receiver itself.
> But in Pharo 2.0 it returns an instance of SystemWindow.
> I dont see any sense in that. It that with intent?
>

I was not behind the change, but i think answering window is more
useful than just receiver.
Since you sending 'inspect' message to object you already having access to it,
and getting same object back is less useful, than inspector window,
which you can
give extra instructions (like placement etc).


> Sabine
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Re: [Pharo-users] inspect returns iOf SystemWindow and not receiver

2013-06-08 Thread Clément Bera
I think the reason was the need of registering onWindowClose: event or
closing the window by the code easily. Now you can do :
| w |
w := Object inspect.
w onWindowClosed: [ ... ].
...
w close.


2013/6/9 Igor Stasenko 

> On 8 June 2013 20:29, Sabine Knöfel  wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > while developing my app with seaside, I sometimes use inspect within any
> > statement.
> > I am used from Pharo 1.4 and from other smalltalk dialects, that
> >>inspect
> > returns the receiver itself.
> > But in Pharo 2.0 it returns an instance of SystemWindow.
> > I dont see any sense in that. It that with intent?
> >
>
> I was not behind the change, but i think answering window is more
> useful than just receiver.
> Since you sending 'inspect' message to object you already having access to
> it,
> and getting same object back is less useful, than inspector window,
> which you can
> give extra instructions (like placement etc).
>
>
> > Sabine
> >
> >
> >
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> >
>
>
>
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>
>


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Re: [Pharo-users] inspect returns iOf SystemWindow and not receiver

2013-06-08 Thread Sabine Knöfel
I should give an example why this is not useful for me.

While developing, I use >>inspect to see, what is in any object AND I want
the app to proceed.
E.g. while creating a report, I want to see the table columns in an
inspector.
I don't want to halt and debug, I only want to see an inspector.

self currentPageadd:
(PDFDataTableWithColumnsCaptionElement new   
captions: self costReportDaysTableColumns inspect;
data: ...;

Now, I have to write it like that

self costReportDaysTableColumns inspect.
self currentPage add:
(PDFDataTableWithColumnsCaptionElement new   
captions: self costReportDaysTableColumns ;
data: ...;

Yes, this is possible but it is not so easigoing as simply put an inspect
somewhere.

Remarks:
1) I develop a seaside app. I am not interested in the System Window;-)
2) I cant find a selector >>onWindowClosed:
3) >>inspect is a selector which exists in every smalltalk dialect. In every
smalltalk dialect I worked with, inspect returned the receiver.  It is kind
of standard IMHO.




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