Re: [Pharo-users] [ANN] Teapot 0.8 micro web framework
The framework is nice.. and addictive to play with as stated before, well documented, clean and easy.. ! Potentially a good tool to weave into any app. My quick play with the framework, surprised me with its productive usage.. so here it goes.. Teapot: Pharo web REST framework, it ain’t micro https://skrishnamachari.wordpress.com/2014/08/28/teapot-pharo-web-rest-framework-it-aint-micro/ On Mon, Aug 25, 2014 at 11:06 PM, Attila Magyar m.magy...@gmail.com wrote: Santiago Bragagnolo wrote I played a little bit with Teapot last week during ESUG and was wondering what is your flow when you are designing/experimenting an API with Teapot? Do you reset the instance everytime you modify/add a route? I'm not sure i understand it correctly. The routes are stored in a router in an OrderedCollection. If you say teapot GET: '/foo/bar' - someAction A new Route will be created with the given url pattern, action, http method and default response transformer. The first 3 things cannot be modifed later, but the response transformer can. So if you say: teapot GET: '/foo/bar' - someAction; output: #ston Then the ston transformer will be added to the current route, after the route was added to the router. Teapot stores a reference to the current route to be able to do this. In the future there may be other messages (eg. filtering based on the content-type or other request properties). The reason for doing this is to avoid the combinatorial explosion of method numbers (there is no need to implement GET:output:, POST:output:, etc..). Is it an answer for your question or did you mean something else? -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/ANN-Teapot-0-8-micro-web-framework-tp4774449p4774693.html Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
Re: [Pharo-users] Unintuitive behavior of class-side initialize
you can read the book here https://www.gitbook.io/book/kilon/pbe main repo is here https://github.com/SquareBracketAssociates/UpdatedPharoByExample Sure exercises are always a good idea. We use pillar syntax which is quite simple, drop off to irc chat #Pharo at freenode to discuss the detail though most things are already well documented about the process of contributing to the book. I have ported so far 4 chapter and I am in chapter 5 , Damien has port one chapter and Stephan partly ported another so we around 50% of the book. On Thu, Aug 28, 2014 at 1:51 PM, Ignacio Sniechowski 0800na...@gmail.com wrote: Kilon, Do you have a preview version of the updated book? I would love to see it. Also would you consider adding some exercises will be a good addition? I think solet me know and i guess i can merge the project i've started to the updated book. Best Nacho Enviado desde Molto http://www.moltoapp.com/app?tag=ipad_sig para iPad De: kilon alios Enviado: miércoles, agosto 27, 2014 09:50 a.m. Para: Any question about pharo is welcome Asunto: Re: [Pharo-users] Unintuitive behavior of class-side initialize I will be adding an Introduction to Object Orientation chapter to the new updated Pharo By Example online book, so I will add this to the chapter. The chapter will target people not familiar with Object Orientation and people new to coding. Its not an immediate target but it will happen till the end of the year. On Wed, Aug 27, 2014 at 3:44 PM, Mariano Martinez Peck marianop...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Aug 27, 2014 at 8:22 AM, webwarrior r...@webwarrior.ws wrote: As class is just an object in Smalltalk, it would be reasonable to believe that #initialize message is always sent to class on creation. However, that's not true. It is only sent to classes that redefine #initialize. Also sending super initialize may lead to problems. Ohhh yes. There is always a time for every Smalltalkers where you discover that doing super for class side initialize is not a good idea. Here was my time: http://forum.world.st/super-initialize-is-not-a-good-idea-for-Behaviors-td3086162.html None of these is mentioned in documentation (I assume Pahro By Example is the official one). It only says that #initialize is sent when class is loaded into memory. I think either this behavior should be made more consistent, or excplicitly mentioned in the docs. +1 to the documentation -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Unintuitive-behavior-of-class-side-initialize-tp4775042.html Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- Mariano http://marianopeck.wordpress.com
Re: [Pharo-users] Unintuitive behavior of class-side initialize
thanks, Im familiar with pillar as incontributed some stuff for the pharo for the enterprise. I will take a look. Also Thanks for your video tutorials, they are really awesome. Please please continue to add more. Take care Nacho Enviado desde Molto para iPad De: kilon alios Enviado: jueves, agosto 28, 2014 08:02 a.m. Para: Any question about pharo is welcome Asunto: Re: [Pharo-users] Unintuitive behavior of class-side initialize you can read the book here https://www.gitbook.io/book/kilon/pbe main repo is here https://github.com/SquareBracketAssociates/UpdatedPharoByExample Sure exercises are always a good idea. We use pillar syntax which is quite simple, drop off to irc chat #Pharo at freenode to discuss the detail though most things are already well documented about the process of contributing to the book. I have ported so far 4 chapter and I am in chapter 5 , Damien has port one chapter and Stephan partly ported another so we around 50% of the book. On Thu, Aug 28, 2014 at 1:51 PM, Ignacio Sniechowski 0800na...@gmail.com wrote: Kilon, Do you have a preview version of the updated book? I would love to see it. Also would you consider adding some exercises will be a good addition? I think solet me know and i guess i can merge the project i've started to the updated book. Best Nacho Enviado desde Molto para iPad De: kilon alios Enviado: miércoles, agosto 27, 2014 09:50 a.m. Para: Any question about pharo is welcome Asunto: Re: [Pharo-users] Unintuitive behavior of class-side initialize I will be adding an Introduction to Object Orientation chapter to the new updated Pharo By Example online book, so I will add this to the chapter. The chapter will target people not familiar with Object Orientation and people new to coding. Its not an immediate target but it will happen till the end of the year. On Wed, Aug 27, 2014 at 3:44 PM, Mariano Martinez Peck marianop...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Aug 27, 2014 at 8:22 AM, webwarrior r...@webwarrior.ws wrote: As class is just an object in Smalltalk, it would be reasonable to believe that #initialize message is always sent to class on creation. However, that's not true. It is only sent to classes that redefine #initialize. Also sending super initialize may lead to problems. Ohhh yes. There is always a time for every Smalltalkers where you discover that doing super for class side initialize is not a good idea. Here was my time: http://forum.world.st/super-initialize-is-not-a-good-idea-for-Behaviors-td3086162.html None of these is mentioned in documentation (I assume Pahro By Example is the official one). It only says that #initialize is sent when class is loaded into memory. I think either this behavior should be made more consistent, or excplicitly mentioned in the docs. +1 to the documentation -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Unintuitive-behavior-of-class-side-initialize-tp4775042.html Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- Mariano http://marianopeck.wordpress.com
Re: [Pharo-users] Unintuitive behavior of class-side initialize
Le 27 août 2014 à 19:04, p...@highoctane.be a écrit : Yeah don't do super initialize unless you know why on the class side. That being said class side initialize is pretty cool when loading new packages and setting everything up automagically. In my opinion, it would be better to have a package initialization method for that purpose. smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature
Re: [Pharo-users] Unintuitive behavior of class-side initialize
ah nice then you already a contributor and you dont need permission to add to updated pbe repo. thank you for the kind words, when I started making them I had some doubts about how good they will be so I am very glad that people find them useful and that motivates me to keep making them. The video tutorials will continue non stop and soon as I finish with the core of pharo I would like to dive into Morphic. On Thu, Aug 28, 2014 at 2:05 PM, Ignacio Sniechowski 0800na...@gmail.com wrote: thanks, Im familiar with pillar as incontributed some stuff for the pharo for the enterprise. I will take a look. Also Thanks for your video tutorials, they are really awesome. Please please continue to add more. Take care Nacho Enviado desde Molto http://www.moltoapp.com/app?tag=ipad_sig para iPad De: kilon alios Enviado: jueves, agosto 28, 2014 08:02 a.m. Para: Any question about pharo is welcome Asunto: Re: [Pharo-users] Unintuitive behavior of class-side initialize you can read the book here https://www.gitbook.io/book/kilon/pbe main repo is here https://github.com/SquareBracketAssociates/UpdatedPharoByExample Sure exercises are always a good idea. We use pillar syntax which is quite simple, drop off to irc chat #Pharo at freenode to discuss the detail though most things are already well documented about the process of contributing to the book. I have ported so far 4 chapter and I am in chapter 5 , Damien has port one chapter and Stephan partly ported another so we around 50% of the book. On Thu, Aug 28, 2014 at 1:51 PM, Ignacio Sniechowski 0800na...@gmail.com wrote: Kilon, Do you have a preview version of the updated book? I would love to see it. Also would you consider adding some exercises will be a good addition? I think solet me know and i guess i can merge the project i've started to the updated book. Best Nacho Enviado desde Molto http://www.moltoapp.com/app?tag=ipad_sig para iPad De: kilon alios Enviado: miércoles, agosto 27, 2014 09:50 a.m. Para: Any question about pharo is welcome Asunto: Re: [Pharo-users] Unintuitive behavior of class-side initialize I will be adding an Introduction to Object Orientation chapter to the new updated Pharo By Example online book, so I will add this to the chapter. The chapter will target people not familiar with Object Orientation and people new to coding. Its not an immediate target but it will happen till the end of the year. On Wed, Aug 27, 2014 at 3:44 PM, Mariano Martinez Peck marianop...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Aug 27, 2014 at 8:22 AM, webwarrior r...@webwarrior.ws wrote: As class is just an object in Smalltalk, it would be reasonable to believe that #initialize message is always sent to class on creation. However, that's not true. It is only sent to classes that redefine #initialize. Also sending super initialize may lead to problems. Ohhh yes. There is always a time for every Smalltalkers where you discover that doing super for class side initialize is not a good idea. Here was my time: http://forum.world.st/super-initialize-is-not-a-good-idea-for-Behaviors-td3086162.html None of these is mentioned in documentation (I assume Pahro By Example is the official one). It only says that #initialize is sent when class is loaded into memory. I think either this behavior should be made more consistent, or excplicitly mentioned in the docs. +1 to the documentation -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Unintuitive-behavior-of-class-side-initialize-tp4775042.html Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- Mariano http://marianopeck.wordpress.com
Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo on Nvidia Jetson TK1?
Do we have a Pharo 3.0 VM for ARM/Ubuntu? If so, i will click me a Jetson TK1. BW, Volkert Am 27.08.2014 um 23:07 schrieb stepharo: On 27/8/14 22:29, volk...@nivoba.de wrote: Wouldn't this a nice platform for Pharo? I mean a Pharo with full CUDA and OpenGL Support ... i would like it. :-) me too but time/money... for the OpenGL support there is already a part. https://developer.nvidia.com/jetson-tk1 http://devblogs.nvidia.com/parallelforall/jetson-tk1-mobile-embedded-supercomputer-cuda-everywhere/ http://elinux.org/Jetson_TK1 http://developer.download.nvidia.com/embedded/jetson/TK1/docs/Jetson_platform_brief_May2014.pdf https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9teSvCL0NX0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YfUHei3M0Jw BW, Volkert -- www.nivoba.de The more complex an object, the larger the investment in learning to use it, and the greater the resistance to abandon it., NW
[Pharo-users] Installing STON from a playground/workspace
Hi, Last night I was playing with STON for a while. There is still things to learn (and I have already made my questions in the proper thread) but so far I have really like it. I installed it from Configuration Browser, but I would like to install it from a playground/workspace. I know where is located at SmalltalkHub and I can see there the Monticello registration, but in the chapter about Monticello this seems to be used for source control with graphical tools. How can I install STON from a playground/workspace instead of using graphical tools like Monticello or Configuration Browser? How can I know this from the SmalltalkHub page? Thanks Offray
Re: [Pharo-users] Installing STON from a playground/workspace
http://pharobooks.gforge.inria.fr/PharoByExampleTwo-Eng/latest/Gofer.pdf may help. Phil On Thu, Aug 28, 2014 at 7:25 PM, Offray Vladimir Luna Cárdenas off...@riseup.net wrote: Hi, Last night I was playing with STON for a while. There is still things to learn (and I have already made my questions in the proper thread) but so far I have really like it. I installed it from Configuration Browser, but I would like to install it from a playground/workspace. I know where is located at SmalltalkHub and I can see there the Monticello registration, but in the chapter about Monticello this seems to be used for source control with graphical tools. How can I install STON from a playground/workspace instead of using graphical tools like Monticello or Configuration Browser? How can I know this from the SmalltalkHub page? Thanks Offray
Re: [Pharo-users] Installing STON from a playground/workspace
Hi Phil and thanks, I've tried this two: [1]=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Gofer new url: 'http://www.smalltalkhub.com/mc/SvenVanCaekenberghe/STON/main'; package: 'STON'; load. =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- and: [2]=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Gofer new smalltalkhubUser: 'SvenVanCaekenberghe' project: 'STON'; package: 'STON'; load. =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Both of them gave me Error: Unable to resolve STON. I have already seen the Gofer chapter you point me (sorry to forgot to mention that), but it doesn't seem pretty clear, because it says: [3]=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Here is a typical Gofer script: it says that we want to load the package PBE2GoferExample from the repository PBE2GoferExample that is available on http://www.smalltalkhub.com in the account of JannikLaval. Gofer new url: 'http://smalltalkhub.com/mc/PharoBooks/GoferExample/main'; package: 'PBE2GoferExample'; load =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- But if I try something similar without any mention to the user (as in [1]) or if I try loading it like with my own repo (as in [2]) I get the same errror. There is something I'm missing about how to get the proper Gofer command from a url in SmalltalkHub and I would like to have it clear, because guessing is not working. Cheers, Offray On 08/28/2014 01:12 PM, p...@highoctane.be wrote: http://pharobooks.gforge.inria.fr/PharoByExampleTwo-Eng/latest/Gofer.pdf may help. Phil On Thu, Aug 28, 2014 at 7:25 PM, Offray Vladimir Luna Cárdenas off...@riseup.net mailto:off...@riseup.net wrote: Hi, Last night I was playing with STON for a while. There is still things to learn (and I have already made my questions in the proper thread) but so far I have really like it. I installed it from Configuration Browser, but I would like to install it from a playground/workspace. I know where is located at SmalltalkHub and I can see there the Monticello registration, but in the chapter about Monticello this seems to be used for source control with graphical tools. How can I install STON from a playground/workspace instead of using graphical tools like Monticello or Configuration Browser? How can I know this from the SmalltalkHub page? Thanks Offray
Re: [Pharo-users] Installing STON from a playground/workspace
Offray, I am glad you like STON. It is best to use a Metacello configuration, if there is one. Then, the load script would be: Gofer it smalltalkhubUser: 'SvenVanCaekenberghe' project: 'STON'; configuration; loadStable. STON lives both in StHub and on SS3, so alternatively you can do: Gofer it url: 'http://ss3.gemstone.com/ss/STON'; configuration; loadStable. HTH, Sven PS: the error you made is that the package is called STON-Core ;-) On 28 Aug 2014, at 22:52, Offray Vladimir Luna Cárdenas off...@riseup.net wrote: Hi Phil and thanks, I've tried this two: [1]=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Gofer new url: 'http://www.smalltalkhub.com/mc/SvenVanCaekenberghe/STON/main'; package: 'STON'; load. =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- and: [2]=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Gofer new smalltalkhubUser: 'SvenVanCaekenberghe' project: 'STON'; package: 'STON'; load. =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Both of them gave me Error: Unable to resolve STON. I have already seen the Gofer chapter you point me (sorry to forgot to mention that), but it doesn't seem pretty clear, because it says: [3]=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Here is a typical Gofer script: it says that we want to load the package PBE2GoferExample from the repository PBE2GoferExample that is available on http://www.smalltalkhub.com in the account of JannikLaval. Gofer new url: 'http://smalltalkhub.com/mc/PharoBooks/GoferExample/main'; package: 'PBE2GoferExample'; load =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- But if I try something similar without any mention to the user (as in [1]) or if I try loading it like with my own repo (as in [2]) I get the same errror. There is something I'm missing about how to get the proper Gofer command from a url in SmalltalkHub and I would like to have it clear, because guessing is not working. Cheers, Offray On 08/28/2014 01:12 PM, p...@highoctane.be wrote: http://pharobooks.gforge.inria.fr/PharoByExampleTwo-Eng/latest/Gofer.pdf may help. Phil On Thu, Aug 28, 2014 at 7:25 PM, Offray Vladimir Luna Cárdenas off...@riseup.net mailto:off...@riseup.net wrote: Hi, Last night I was playing with STON for a while. There is still things to learn (and I have already made my questions in the proper thread) but so far I have really like it. I installed it from Configuration Browser, but I would like to install it from a playground/workspace. I know where is located at SmalltalkHub and I can see there the Monticello registration, but in the chapter about Monticello this seems to be used for source control with graphical tools. How can I install STON from a playground/workspace instead of using graphical tools like Monticello or Configuration Browser? How can I know this from the SmalltalkHub page? Thanks Offray
