Re: [Pharo-users] Why doesn't collection have #excludes (the mirror of includes)?

[Richard O'Keefe]

An old draft has been available for yonks through
http://www.cs.otago.ac.nz/staffpriv/ok/software.htm

There are two *major* changes not included in that release
and not quite finished yet.

On Tue, 19 Mar 2019 at 07:09, Esteban Maringolo 
wrote:

> El dom., 17 mar. 2019 a las 6:33, Sven Van Caekenberghe
> () escribió:
> >
> >
> >
> > > On 17 Mar 2019, at 07:56, Richard O'Keefe  wrote:
> > >
> > > (1) As it happens, my Smalltalk library *does* have
> >
> > "my mystery Smalltalk" ;-)
>
> Codename "Unicorn". :)
>
> Jokes aside, I'd love to see such implementation because all software
> products developed by only a few minds, if not one at all, have a
> level of coherence and parsimony that can't be achieved with a larger
> team. I only saw it with Dolphin Smalltalk, and would love to see your
> Unicorn Smalltalk as well.
>
> Regards,
>
> Esteban A. Maringolo
>
>

Re: [Pharo-users] Test skip isn't working?

[Christopher Fuhrman]

What about:

self skipOnClassRun: 'message'.

?

On Mon, Mar 18, 2019, 15:53 Ben Coman  wrote:

> This is a tough one to consider.  Dennis's position seems very reasonable,
> but that Vitor got stuck is an indication of something missing.
> Just one other option occurs to me, that a notification pops up saying
> "force run skipped method",
> but I'm not even sure that would be beneficial.
>
> cheers -ben
>
> On Mon, 18 Mar 2019 at 22:21, Vitor Medina Cruz 
> wrote:
>
>> It is confusing because something unexpected and different from what is
>> explicitly said on code happens... I consider it an error.
>>
>> I think It should execute informing the test is skipped or don't provide
>> the click button at all. It took me a long time looking at skip
>> implementation and trying different stuff until I figure I hadn't done
>> anything wrong.
>>
>> On Mon, Mar 18, 2019 at 4:22 AM Denis Kudriashov 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I think it is a feature. When you click icon on a single test you
>>> explicitly raise a wish to run it.
>>>
>>> пн, 18 мар. 2019 г., 1:26 Vitor Medina Cruz :
>>>
 Skip only works when I run tests from class. If I click the test button
 from the method skipped it don't work, maybe an error in calypso?

 On Sun, Mar 17, 2019 at 3:13 PM Vitor Medina Cruz 
 wrote:

> Hello,
>
> someTest
> self skip: 'some message'.
>
> rest of the test
>
> Rest of the test is being executed. There is a different woy of
> skipping tests?
>
> Thanks,
> Vitor.
>

Re: [Pharo-users] Why doesn't collection have #excludes (the mirror of includes)?

[Dale Henrichs]

Isn't this an "ultimate" goal for Pharo  ... once you've got a stable 
(truly) minimum image, custom class libraries are possible if not 
desirable ...


Dale

On 3/18/19 11:08 AM, Esteban Maringolo wrote:

El dom., 17 mar. 2019 a las 6:33, Sven Van Caekenberghe
() escribió:




On 17 Mar 2019, at 07:56, Richard O'Keefe  wrote:

(1) As it happens, my Smalltalk library *does* have

"my mystery Smalltalk" ;-)

Codename "Unicorn". :)

Jokes aside, I'd love to see such implementation because all software
products developed by only a few minds, if not one at all, have a
level of coherence and parsimony that can't be achieved with a larger
team. I only saw it with Dolphin Smalltalk, and would love to see your
Unicorn Smalltalk as well.

Regards,

Esteban A. Maringolo

Re: [Pharo-users] [Pharo-dev] [Issue Trackker][Help Needed]: Move issues from Fogbugz to GitHub

[Tim Mackinnon]

Marcus - do we just manually copy over the title and description (and any 
relevant comments) - or is there some tool to do this with?

Tim

> On 18 Mar 2019, at 07:38, Marcus Denker  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> We should all look at the old issues:
> 
>   https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/filters/57/All-newest-first 
> 
> 
> and move them to the new one:
> 
>   https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo/issues 
> 
> 
> instead of moving them automatically, we should take the chance to
> clean up.
> 
> Please check, first for the issues that *you* added:
> 
>   -> is it still relevant?
>   ->if yes: add a new issue on GitHub 
>   ->close this issue, there is now an explicit “moved to GitHub” state.
> 
> 
>   Marcus

Re: [Pharo-users] Why doesn't collection have #excludes (the mirror of includes)?

[Esteban Maringolo]

El dom., 17 mar. 2019 a las 6:33, Sven Van Caekenberghe
() escribió:
>
>
>
> > On 17 Mar 2019, at 07:56, Richard O'Keefe  wrote:
> >
> > (1) As it happens, my Smalltalk library *does* have
>
> "my mystery Smalltalk" ;-)

Codename "Unicorn". :)

Jokes aside, I'd love to see such implementation because all software
products developed by only a few minds, if not one at all, have a
level of coherence and parsimony that can't be achieved with a larger
team. I only saw it with Dolphin Smalltalk, and would love to see your
Unicorn Smalltalk as well.

Regards,

Esteban A. Maringolo

Re: [Pharo-users] Why doesn't collection have #excludes (the mirror of includes)?

[Tim Mackinnon]

And looking at this in the code - there are quite a few variations of 
#includes… that I don’t think it makes sense to write the mirror of all of 
them. Not  it is...

> On 18 Mar 2019, at 16:48, Tim Mackinnon  wrote:
> 
> Thanks guys - I always learn something new from these threads.
> 
>> On 17 Mar 2019, at 06:56, Richard O'Keefe > > wrote:
>> 
>> (1) As it happens, my Smalltalk library *does* have
>> #excludes: and #identityExcludes:
>> (2) The definitions are trivial.
>> excludes: item
>>   ^(self includes: item) not
>> identityExcludes: item
>>   ^(self identityIncludes: item) not
>> 
>> If you want to execute aBlock when aString is not all zeros
>> and ones, just do
>>(aString allSatisfy: [:each | each = $0 or: [each = $1]])
>>  ifFalse: [aBlock value].
>> or
>>(aString anySatisfy: [:each | each ~= $0 and: [each ~= $1]])
>>  ifTrue: [aBlock value].
>> or
>>('01' includesAll: aString) ifFalse: [aBlock value].
>> 
>> 
>> On Sat, 16 Mar 2019 at 11:33, Tim Mackinnon > > wrote:
>> Hi - in my quest to understand the edgier details of Pharo (and Smalltalk) - 
>> and driven by fresh thoughts of completing exercism exercises - I was 
>> surprised to find that there is no #excludes: operation on collection to 
>> mirror the #includes: operation?
>> 
>> I was curious about this - its seems a strange omission?
>> 
>> Of course I can inverse it with not, or do things a different way - but we 
>> have ifTrue: mirrored with ifFalse, empty/notEmpty so am I missing something?
>> 
>> I wanted to write something like
>> 
>> 
>> aString detect: [:c | ($0 to: $1) excludes: c] ifFound: aBlock. (Evaluate a 
>> block if the string isn’t all 0 and 1’s)
>> 
>> 
>> Of course I can write this as:
>> 
>> (aString reject: [:c | c = $0 | c = $1)) ifNotEmpty: aBlock
>> 
>> But as recent messages in this vein have shown me (and taught me lots - 
>> thanks to those answering), the answer is often not what I thought.
>> 
>> Tim
>> 
>> 
> 

Re: [Pharo-users] Why doesn't collection have #excludes (the mirror of includes)?

[Tim Mackinnon]

Thanks guys - I always learn something new from these threads.

> On 17 Mar 2019, at 06:56, Richard O'Keefe  wrote:
> 
> (1) As it happens, my Smalltalk library *does* have
> #excludes: and #identityExcludes:
> (2) The definitions are trivial.
> excludes: item
>   ^(self includes: item) not
> identityExcludes: item
>   ^(self identityIncludes: item) not
> 
> If you want to execute aBlock when aString is not all zeros
> and ones, just do
>(aString allSatisfy: [:each | each = $0 or: [each = $1]])
>  ifFalse: [aBlock value].
> or
>(aString anySatisfy: [:each | each ~= $0 and: [each ~= $1]])
>  ifTrue: [aBlock value].
> or
>('01' includesAll: aString) ifFalse: [aBlock value].
> 
> 
> On Sat, 16 Mar 2019 at 11:33, Tim Mackinnon  wrote:
> Hi - in my quest to understand the edgier details of Pharo (and Smalltalk) - 
> and driven by fresh thoughts of completing exercism exercises - I was 
> surprised to find that there is no #excludes: operation on collection to 
> mirror the #includes: operation?
> 
> I was curious about this - its seems a strange omission?
> 
> Of course I can inverse it with not, or do things a different way - but we 
> have ifTrue: mirrored with ifFalse, empty/notEmpty so am I missing something?
> 
> I wanted to write something like
> 
> 
> aString detect: [:c | ($0 to: $1) excludes: c] ifFound: aBlock. (Evaluate a 
> block if the string isn’t all 0 and 1’s)
> 
> 
> Of course I can write this as:
> 
> (aString reject: [:c | c = $0 | c = $1)) ifNotEmpty: aBlock
> 
> But as recent messages in this vein have shown me (and taught me lots - 
> thanks to those answering), the answer is often not what I thought.
> 
> Tim
> 
> 

Re: [Pharo-users] using spotter in pharo 7. but have many error.

[Sean P. DeNigris]

peter yoo wrote
> many error encounterd

It looks like those errors are related to fonts, not spotter. Someone else
can probably tell you more...



-
Cheers,
Sean
--
Sent from: http://forum.world.st/Pharo-Smalltalk-Users-f1310670.html

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo refactoring rewrite tool?

[Tim Mackinnon]

Ah cool - that sounds like what I was looking for - will give it a spin. Thanks

> On 18 Mar 2019, at 11:46, Hernán Morales Durand  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi Tim,
> 
> Recently I've sent a PR to load MatchTool in P7, you may want to check it out:
> 
> https://github.com/Uko/MatchTool 
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Hernán
> 
> El dom., 17 mar. 2019 11:35 p. m., Tim Mackinnon  escribió:
> I recall there was a refactoring rewrite tool - but where is it in Pharo? Is 
> it something you have to load separately? Or do you just copy some of the 
> deprecated examples and do it manually? I thought there was something with a 
> window where you typed in a rule and then it showed you what it would do? (Or 
> was that only in Dolphin?)
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Tim

Re: [Pharo-users] Test skip isn't working?

[Ben Coman]

This is a tough one to consider.  Dennis's position seems very reasonable,
but that Vitor got stuck is an indication of something missing.
Just one other option occurs to me, that a notification pops up saying
"force run skipped method",
but I'm not even sure that would be beneficial.

cheers -ben

On Mon, 18 Mar 2019 at 22:21, Vitor Medina Cruz 
wrote:

> It is confusing because something unexpected and different from what is
> explicitly said on code happens... I consider it an error.
>
> I think It should execute informing the test is skipped or don't provide
> the click button at all. It took me a long time looking at skip
> implementation and trying different stuff until I figure I hadn't done
> anything wrong.
>
> On Mon, Mar 18, 2019 at 4:22 AM Denis Kudriashov 
> wrote:
>
>> I think it is a feature. When you click icon on a single test you
>> explicitly raise a wish to run it.
>>
>> пн, 18 мар. 2019 г., 1:26 Vitor Medina Cruz :
>>
>>> Skip only works when I run tests from class. If I click the test button
>>> from the method skipped it don't work, maybe an error in calypso?
>>>
>>> On Sun, Mar 17, 2019 at 3:13 PM Vitor Medina Cruz 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Hello,

 someTest
 self skip: 'some message'.

 rest of the test

 Rest of the test is being executed. There is a different woy of
 skipping tests?

 Thanks,
 Vitor.

>>>

Re: [Pharo-users] Test skip isn't working?

[Vitor Medina Cruz]

It is confusing because something unexpected and different from what is
explicitly said on code happens... I consider it an error.

I think It should execute informing the test is skipped or don't provide
the click button at all. It took me a long time looking at skip
implementation and trying different stuff until I figure I hadn't done
anything wrong.

On Mon, Mar 18, 2019 at 4:22 AM Denis Kudriashov 
wrote:

> I think it is a feature. When you click icon on a single test you
> explicitly raise a wish to run it.
>
> пн, 18 мар. 2019 г., 1:26 Vitor Medina Cruz :
>
>> Skip only works when I run tests from class. If I click the test button
>> from the method skipped it don't work, maybe an error in calypso?
>>
>> On Sun, Mar 17, 2019 at 3:13 PM Vitor Medina Cruz 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> someTest
>>> self skip: 'some message'.
>>>
>>> rest of the test
>>>
>>> Rest of the test is being executed. There is a different woy of skipping
>>> tests?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Vitor.
>>>
>>

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo refactoring rewrite tool?

[Hernán Morales Durand]

Hi Tim,

Recently I've sent a PR to load MatchTool in P7, you may want to check it
out:

https://github.com/Uko/MatchTool

Cheers,

Hernán

El dom., 17 mar. 2019 11:35 p. m., Tim Mackinnon 
escribió:

> I recall there was a refactoring rewrite tool - but where is it in Pharo?
> Is it something you have to load separately? Or do you just copy some of
> the deprecated examples and do it manually? I thought there was something
> with a window where you typed in a rule and then it showed you what it
> would do? (Or was that only in Dolphin?)
>
> Thanks,
>
> Tim
>

[Pharo-users] ARM vm limitations ?

[Albrecht Baur via Pharo-users]

--- Begin Message ---
Hi, I'd like to play around with pharo on ARM devices (like a 
HummingBoard, the ones from ODROID or one of the beagleboards). But I am 
not sure if I have to take care of the ARM architecture version (ARMv6 / 
ARMv7 / ARMv8) when choosing my toy.


I found this vm:
http://files.pharo.org/vm/pharo-spur32/linux/armv6/
Is it only for armv6 like the folder name says or is ARMv7 and ARMv8 
working too?


Are there any limitations I should know before choosing a ARM device?

Is there a vm for 64bit (aarch64)?

Thanks!
Albrecht


--- End Message ---

[Pharo-users] [Issue Trackker][Help Needed]: Move issues from Fogbugz to GitHub

[Marcus Denker]

Hi,

We should all look at the old issues:

https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/filters/57/All-newest-first 


and move them to the new one:

https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo/issues

instead of moving them automatically, we should take the chance to
clean up.

Please check, first for the issues that *you* added:

-> is it still relevant?
->if yes: add a new issue on GitHub 
->close this issue, there is now an explicit “moved to GitHub” state.


Marcus

Re: [Pharo-users] Test skip isn't working?

[Denis Kudriashov]

I think it is a feature. When you click icon on a single test you
explicitly raise a wish to run it.

пн, 18 мар. 2019 г., 1:26 Vitor Medina Cruz :

> Skip only works when I run tests from class. If I click the test button
> from the method skipped it don't work, maybe an error in calypso?
>
> On Sun, Mar 17, 2019 at 3:13 PM Vitor Medina Cruz 
> wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> someTest
>> self skip: 'some message'.
>>
>> rest of the test
>>
>> Rest of the test is being executed. There is a different woy of skipping
>> tests?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Vitor.
>>
>

Re: [Pharo-users] rdf and/or json-ld

[Christian Haider]

Interesting? What do you want with that?

I wrote a RDF/XML parser/serializer for VW (public domain)
Json-ld and other formats, especially turtle should not be too difficult.

Thumbs up 😊

> -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
> Von: Pharo-users  Im Auftrag von
> Tudor Girba
> Gesendet: Sonntag, 17. März 2019 21:08
> An: Any question about pharo is welcome 
> Betreff: [Pharo-users] rdf and/or json-ld
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Is anyone aware of RDF or JSON-LD support in Pharo?
> 
> Cheers,
> Doru
> 
> 
> --
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> 
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> That is, if it is expected, it already happened."
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