[Pharo-users] Re: The Greatest Contributors to Smalltalk since 1980

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Eric Clayberg - John O’Keefe??

> On 25 Jul 2021, at 09:33, Richard Sargent  wrote:
> 
> Dave Thomas of OTI probably ranks in your list.
> 
> On July 24, 2021 3:44:40 PM PDT, horrido.hobb...@gmail.com wrote:
> I’m looking for a list of individuals who have contributed greatly to the 
> advancement of Smalltalk, post Xerox PARC period (1972-1980). By advancement, 
> I don’t only mean on a technical basis but on an educational or public 
> awareness basis (this could include books, podcasts, talk circuit, video 
> instruction, etc.). Any basis that has made Smalltalk a success in the 
> marketplace (including commercialization).
> 
> I posted this question on LinkedIn and got one useful response: the late 
> James Robertson.
> 
> My personal nomination is Kent Beck.
> 
> I’m not that familiar with the deep history of Smalltalk, so I’m looking for 
> more nominations.
> 
> Thanks.
> 

[Pharo-users] Re: How do I remove old classes?

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Good thinking. I will check that out.
Thank you.
David

> On 23 Jul 2021, at 16:34, Richard Sargent 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> On Fri, Jul 23, 2021, 06:57 Clacton Server  <mailto:da...@totallyobjects.com>> wrote:
> I have been having an enduring problem with Pharo "disappearing" on any 
> machine I try it on. In an effort to resolve that it isn't my code, I want to 
> remove the Package that contains all my Seaside code so that I can install a 
> minimal home page under Seaside. This will, at least exonerate my code. 
> However, I have removed the offending package, executed Smalltalk cleanUp: 
> true but I can still get into the old code. A debugger comes up when I try 
> the old code and it shows 
> "AnObsoleteCNWMeetingsGalleries(AnObsoleteCNWBasic)" so the code is still 
> there and all the bots that have the address will still be calling it. How do 
> I finally remove the code?
> 
> I would venture that you previously registered the class as a Seaside 
> handler/application/whatever and the registry holds the class despite it 
> being removed from the Smalltalk global dictionary.
> 
> If so, you would need to remove it from the registry.
> 
> 
> David Pennington

[Pharo-users] How do I remove old classes?

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I have been having an enduring problem with Pharo "disappearing" on any machine 
I try it on. In an effort to resolve that it isn't my code, I want to remove 
the Package that contains all my Seaside code so that I can install a minimal 
home page under Seaside. This will, at least exonerate my code. However, I have 
removed the offending package, executed Smalltalk cleanUp: true but I can still 
get into the old code. A debugger comes up when I try the old code and it shows 
"AnObsoleteCNWMeetingsGalleries(AnObsoleteCNWBasic)" so the code is still there 
and all the bots that have the address will still be calling it. How do I 
finally remove the code?

David Pennington

[Pharo-users] Re: Problem installing 9.0 on MacMini M1

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I am nearly there. I sorted out the curl/wget business and managed to get the 
new VM. I have installed it and everything is very quick so I am pleased.

However there are two things I am not sure of.

1. Once I close this down, I am not confident of finding it again (smile).

2. I am back with the Path issue that I mentioned a while ago. Instead of 
(FileSystem disk workingDirectory) being set at the Pharo level it is now set 
at the very top of the tree. Is this something that I am going to have to live 
with our can I reconfigure the startup to make it as it was?

David

> On 16 Jun 2021, at 12:56, David Pennington  wrote:
> 
> I transferred both of my images ( 8 and 9) across and put them in the images 
> directory of a new Pharo Launcher. I now have 9.0 working on the Mac mini but 
> it is still telling me that my VM is out of date. I have opened the VM window 
> and updated both the 8 and 9 vm but I still get the message. I am not 
> convinced that I have an M1 VM. 
> 
> How do I sort this. I am nearly there.
> 
>> On 15 Jun 2021, at 18:44, Tim Mackinnon > > wrote:
>> 
>> Worth saying that while Brew is handy on a mac (and avoid installing it as a 
>> sudo user) - you shouldn't need it do anything with Pharo either with with 
>> the launcher (graphical) or via the console (command line).
>> 
>> Its worth checking you have properly read the download instructions on 
>> pharo.org  - for command line it does say use "curl" and 
>> "wget if curl not available".
>> 
>> For your pharo damaged question - have you tried just creating a fresh 
>> directory, cd'ing into it and then running the command line instructions for 
>> a fresh install. You can then make sure sure pharo works correctly command 
>> line - and if so, this is then possibly a 32 vs 64 bit image difference. You 
>> could investigate this - or simply create a new image and install your code 
>> into it as a fresh install - which might be better anyway, while your 
>> getting things sorted.
>> 
>> Others may have more tips for you.
>> 
>> Tim
>> 
>> On Tue, 15 Jun 2021, at 5:58 PM, Rob Sayers wrote:
>>> Hi, I can't help with the Pharo specific issue, but for installing brew, 
>>> you can find the directions here: https://brew.sh/ 
>>> 
>>> On Tue, Jun 15, 2021 at 10:16 AM David Pennington >> > wrote:
>>> Hi everyone. It is your favourite newbie speaking :-)
>>> 
>>> I have now got a new M1 MacMini which I want to configure up as a server 
>>> for my Seaside apps.
>>> 
>>> So far, I have found that the Mac mini doesn’t have wget or brew installed! 
>>> I have sorted wget but not brew.
>>> 
>>> Secondly, I have transferred all of my 9.0 stuff across but when I try and 
>>> execute both paharo-ui or pharo (as terminal scripts) they both fail as 
>>> they say that the “Paharo” is damaged and can’t be opened. You should move 
>>> it to the bin.
>>> 
>>> I can open Pharo 9.0 directly but it tells me that the VM is too old for 
>>> this image.
>>> 
>>> Can anyone help me please? (In words that I can understand:-)
>>> 
>>> David
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -- 
>>> Rob Sayers
>>> www.robsayers.com