Re: [Pharo-users] What would be the first code snippet you would show
Stef: +1 about using somethign with ZnClient. Manipulating web pages (getting data, or filling out forms) is something all students can understand and get excited about (versus some of the other traditional code snippets in books). Sven: Wow, nice link! Those are excellent snippets. On Wed, Jun 17, 2015 at 4:13 PM, Sven Van Caekenberghe s...@stfx.eu wrote: Here are some more https://medium.com/concerning-pharo/elegant-pharo-code-bb590f0856d0 Maybe for teaching, the example should somehow be familiar, recognisable. On the other hand, that might be confusing and lead to too many comparisons. On 17 Jun 2015, at 21:53, stepharo steph...@free.fr wrote: Hi For the mooc I have a lecture called Pharo Syntax in a nutshell and I would love to get a couple of simple examples that show the syntax but are not totally boring. I thought about something like ZnClient new url: 'http://localhost:8080/books/1'; formAt: 'author' put: 'SquareBracketAssociates'; formAt: 'title' put: 'Pharo For The Enterprise'; put Stef
Re: [Pharo-users] protobufs for Pharo
I'm pretty sure there isn't a protobuf library for Pharo. If you're planning on implementing one, I'd love to collaborate (I could certainly use one for Phriak (driver for the Riak nosql db)). On Mon, May 11, 2015 at 2:46 PM, Benjamin Pollack benja...@bitquabit.com wrote: On Mon, May 11, 2015, at 12:27 PM, Paul DeBruicker wrote: If you've gotta have prorobuf then you've gotta have protobuf but there is a thrift implementation (https://thrift.apache.org/) and also a message pack implementation (https://code.google.com/p/stomp-serializer/) There are unfortunately a lot of protocols (including the one I mentioned used by RethinkDb) that are protobuf-based, so using one of those won't work too well. If interfacing with a third-party tool *weren't* necessary, I'd honestly probably just use Fuel, anyway. --Benjamin
Re: [Pharo-users] pillar internal link
On Friday, April 10, 2015, Damien Cassou damien.cas...@gmail.com wrote: website is clearer. Something you could do however is to add links for each project in the todo: these links go target mailing list discussions (or a github tracker or both if we go that Sure! Happy to add links. Just to double-check, though - do you mean link em to existing discussions, or start a discussion for each item, as it's being worked on?
Re: [Pharo-users] [ANN] MorphicDoc : A project to document Morphic
kilon -- That's awesome! How would you feel about also adding some of those docs into the Morphic chapter of PBE? (Or, if you dont have the bandwidth, would you be opposed to someone else doing that?) On Saturday, April 11, 2015, kilon alios kilon.al...@gmail.com wrote: One of the frequent questions we get asked is how to use Morphic. Unfortunately there is very little documentation for Morphic around and barely touches the most interesting concepts. I decided to start my own project called MorphicDoc . MorphicDoc is very easy to install with Configuration Browser and it works in 2 ways. a) open the Help tool (World Menu = Help = Help Browser ) and there you will find a new section called Morphic Doc by Kilon b) open System Browser go to MorphicDoc package and look at the class side of MorphicDocExamples class , each method is an example taken from the tutorial in help tool and you can easily execute by clicking the green arrow next to its name. Right now only 3 pages have been added but slowly and steadily more will be added. To get new pages and even new chapters make sure you reinstall the same very simple way like installing just open Configuration Browser and click Install Stable Version after you selected MorphicDoc. I will try to add 1 page per day and at least 1 page per week depending on my free time. So make sure you update at least once per week to get the latest version of MorphicDoc. You can report issues , advice and requests at the project page in https://github.com/kilon/MorphicDoc. Of course pull requests are more than welcomed.
Re: [Pharo-users] pillar internal link
Ahh, that's very cool!
Though this is way off-topic from internal links (but I'm not sure where to
bring this up, if there's a pillar repo somewhere) -- is there any way you
can implement multi-line annotations? (and multi-line list items, for that
matter). Using either an open/close syntax, or Markdown style (where if the
next line begins with 4 spaces, it's counted as a continuation of the
previous line.
I bump into this a lot, with the PBE book. Working on a large text file
using GitHub for version control kind of neccesitates hard line breaks at
80 chars. (Otherwise it's very awkward to see diffs, since long lines
require scrolling horizontally).
Regular Pillar paragraphs can be hard-wrapped at 80 chars no problem. But
annotation lines or list item lines cannot. So one is stuck either avoiding
them altogether (and emulating them using bold / italic / etc), or having
to deal with the difficulty with diffs.
So, any chance to make them multi-line capable?
Thanks again!
On Thursday, April 9, 2015, Cyril Ferlicot cyril.ferli...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi.
With Damien we're working on the creation of Annotation and Transformers.
Now you can use this Annotation's tag :
${inputFile:myFile.pillar}$
on your file to include your myFile.pillar.
That still can change a bit, i'm working on it and i still need to do the
tests.
On 7 April 2015 at 18:40, Dmitri Zagidulin dmi...@zagidulin.net
javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','dmi...@zagidulin.net'); wrote:
Thanks, Cyril!
We bumped into the internal link (with label) limitation, too, in Updated
Pharo by Example (
https://github.com/SquareBracketAssociates/UpdatedPharoByExample/issues/10#issuecomment-89044176
).
So, +1 interest to that feature, here :)
On Tue, Apr 7, 2015 at 11:03 AM, Cyril Ferlicot cyril.ferli...@gmail.com
javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','cyril.ferli...@gmail.com'); wrote:
Hi !
Inter-File link are on the TODO list of pillar. Currently you can't.
I'm working on Pillar now, if i add inter-file link i'll say it to you !
On 7 April 2015 at 16:45, Peter Uhnák i.uh...@gmail.com
javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','i.uh...@gmail.com'); wrote:
Hi,
how does one add an internal link?
I have chapter 'Framework' (and file 'Framework/Framework.pillar') and
'Palette' (and file 'Palette/Palette.pillar')
Can I in Framework.pillar write something like *Palette/Palette* to
create a link?
Currently it fails at
*** Warning: PRReferenceNotFound: Can't find anchor named
'Palette/Palette'
Thanks,
Peter
--
Cheers
Cyril Ferlicot
--
Cheers
Cyril Ferlicot
Re: [Pharo-users] pillar internal link
On Thu, Apr 9, 2015 at 11:02 AM, Damien Cassou damien.cas...@gmail.com wrote: So, any chance to make them multi-line capable? that's a feature I would also like to see. Would you please add this to the list of feature requests? http://www.smalltalkhub.com/#!/~Pier/Pillar. I've just added DmitriZagidulin to the Pier members. The next step would be for you to add the corresponding automated tests. Oh, thanks! Appreciated. I added that item to the TODO list on the Pillar SH repo. How do you feel about also having a GitHub repo for the Pillar project? That way, we could open individual issues for those to-do items, and have discussions on each one, assign them to people who are working on them (instead of emailing you), etc?
Re: [Pharo-users] Eating your own dog food (Site/Blog)
You may also want to take a look at PillarHub ( http://smalltalkhub.com/#!/~mikefilonov/PillarHub ) CMS. On Tue, Apr 7, 2015 at 5:05 AM, p...@highoctane.be p...@highoctane.be wrote: On Tue, Apr 7, 2015 at 9:28 AM, Yuriy Tymchuk yuriy.tymc...@me.com wrote: Hi, if I want to create a site/blog in pharo… What do I use? I know that there is Pier, but when you check its webpage, the last update is in 2011. Pharo website is built with Marina, but when I check the repo, the last commit was done by me and it was 2 month ago. Will Marina continue to evolve? And is anyone else using Marina? I had a look, but there was too much unsupported tech in there. I think http://www.samadhiweb.com/blog/ is using a Smalltalk engine. But I do not know if it is public. Phil Uko
Re: [Pharo-users] pillar internal link
Thanks, Cyril! We bumped into the internal link (with label) limitation, too, in Updated Pharo by Example ( https://github.com/SquareBracketAssociates/UpdatedPharoByExample/issues/10#issuecomment-89044176 ). So, +1 interest to that feature, here :) On Tue, Apr 7, 2015 at 11:03 AM, Cyril Ferlicot cyril.ferli...@gmail.com wrote: Hi ! Inter-File link are on the TODO list of pillar. Currently you can't. I'm working on Pillar now, if i add inter-file link i'll say it to you ! On 7 April 2015 at 16:45, Peter Uhnák i.uh...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, how does one add an internal link? I have chapter 'Framework' (and file 'Framework/Framework.pillar') and 'Palette' (and file 'Palette/Palette.pillar') Can I in Framework.pillar write something like *Palette/Palette* to create a link? Currently it fails at *** Warning: PRReferenceNotFound: Can't find anchor named 'Palette/Palette' Thanks, Peter -- Cheers Cyril Ferlicot
Re: [Pharo-users] [Pharo-dev] Pharo sprint on Friday, 3rd April
Ideas for beginners, for Sprints etc: * Adding class comments/documentation, as mentioned, is a fantastic idea. Maybe we can provide some code snippets, that will bring up a list of classes with missing comments (or with too-short comments, less than X characters). People can coordinate (on IRC, or via something like EtherPad) on who's working on which classes. * Not related to core Pharo code itself, but still very helpful: Test various libraries for compatibility with Pharo 4.0. Pick your favorite pharo-related project or library off of SmalltalkHub (or SqueakSource, etc), try to load it into Pharo 4. Run the unit tests. Fix stuff until it loads fine in 4.0.Try and use the library in a simple demo project. Best yet, write a blog post about it. The success of Pharo largely depends on the success of its ecosystem of libraries and projects. * Benchmark things. Which JSON library (of the several available) is faster at parsing large json objects in Pharo 4? That sort of thing. * Write blog posts in general! Write tutorials and walkthroughs on how to use some of the new 4.0 features. Do programming puzzles / interview questions and post about em. Share tips on how you theme and customize your Pharo images, which tools you use most, and so on. * As mentioned before, at least browse the open 4.0 issues on the pharo FogBugz. Try to think about how you'd go about discovering how to solve them. You'll learn a lot about the system. Also, once the issues are fixed, you can help test and confirm the fix (if you can figure out the 'how to reproduce' steps). Follow the 'to reproduce' steps to make sure you reproduce the error/issue. Then load the slice containing the fix from the pharo inbox repo, and redo the steps again to make sure it was fixed. On Fri, Apr 3, 2015 at 8:54 AM, Marcus Denker marcus.den...@inria.fr wrote: On 03 Apr 2015, at 14:36, Jigyasa Grover grover.jigya...@gmail.com wrote: Ohk. No issues :) Looking forward to other Pharo Sprints focusing on beginners :D Yes… maybe other people have ideas? Marcus
Re: [Pharo-users] [Pharo-dev] Pharo sprint on Friday, 3rd April
On Fri, Apr 3, 2015 at 12:41 PM, Martin Bähr mba...@email.archlab.tuwien.ac.at wrote: nice ideas. though beginners may not have any favourite projects. are there any stats on which projects are popular so those can be chosen for testing? You're right. I think by 'favorite', I meant more like 'areas you care about in general, even outside of Pharo'. For example, say you're interested in data processing in general. You can ask, How would I go about downloading a comma-separated (CSV) file, read it into Pharo, and display a graph? This involves learning how to do File I/O, checking to see if there's a CSV library compatible with Pharo, and checking to see what sort of graphing libraries exist (I believe one was mentioned recently on the mailing list, Roassal or something). In similar vein, you can check out XML parsers, JSON parsers, etc, etc. Or you can ask How do I connect to a relational database? I've heard Glorp mentioned, and OpenDBX, etc, so which of these would actually work in Pharo 4?. Or, For example, maybe you care about social media APIs. You can then think, Hey I wonder if there are any Twitter or Facebook client libraries for Pharo. Maybe there's an Open Social API ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenSocial ) library that I can check out. That sort of thing. * Write blog posts in general! Write tutorials and walkthroughs on how to use some of the new 4.0 features. same problem here, being new to pharo, i would not even know what the new features are. this should be documented in release-notes probably. Of course, understood. Then write posts about new user impressions of Pharo 4 (keeping in mind the usual this is open source software / the devs are busy so don't be too harsh on them sort of stuff). Or short tutorials on the various small things that you've figured out to do. (Like a cron job that fires up your Pharo image on the command line).
Re: [Pharo-users] quick poll - which OS do you use for Pharo?
I'm curious what the single vote for Other is :) On Tue, Mar 31, 2015 at 8:34 AM, Mariano Martinez Peck marianop...@gmail.com wrote: I agree to the comments saying that there should be one choice for development and one for deploying. On Tue, Mar 31, 2015 at 5:24 AM, Stephan Eggermont step...@stack.nl wrote: On 31/03/15 07:58, kilon alios wrote: more linux than mac ? thats a surprise . As a development desktop I recently build a silent 4790K i7 with a Philips 40 UHD. That was about half the price of the mac equivalent. I strongly prefer the mac interface, but this is more similar to the server. The laptops are all macs. Just pragmatic choices. If there had been a 4-core mac-mini with 60Hz 4K, I would have bought that. Stephan -- Mariano http://marianopeck.wordpress.com
Re: [Pharo-users] Syslog client
YES! Awesome! :) I was just about to look to see if there was a decent Syslog client for Pharo! On Tue, Mar 31, 2015 at 4:46 AM, olivier auverlot olivier.auver...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I just released an UDP client for the Syslog network protocol (RFC5424). The product is available on SmalltalkHub. http://smalltalkhub.com/#!/~olivierauverlot/Syslog Best regards Olivier ;-)
