Re: [Pharo-users] [Pharo-dev] Pharo sprint on Friday, 3rd April

2015-04-03 Thread Marcus Denker

 On 28 Mar 2015, at 09:20, Marcus Denker marcus.den...@inria.fr wrote:
 
 
 This means having a look at the issue tracker to find some issue that are
 interesting to work on could be an idea.
 
 Maybe a trello board could be used to sync for the remote sprinters.
 
 
 https://trello.com/b/OQ2k210W https://trello.com/b/OQ2k210W
 
 It is public for viewing, for editing I think we need to add people.
 

I started to add cases that people can look at.

Marcus

Re: [Pharo-users] [Pharo-dev] Pharo sprint on Friday, 3rd April

2015-04-03 Thread Marcus Denker

 On 03 Apr 2015, at 13:07, Jigyasa Grover grover.jigya...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hey Marcus
 Anything up there for the beginners ?
 

Not really yet… I am focusing myself on Pharo4… where we are not in a state 
that simple
things are done (which often are cleanups).

 On Fri, Apr 3, 2015 at 4:35 PM, Marcus Denker marcus.den...@inria.fr 
 mailto:marcus.den...@inria.fr wrote:
 
 On 28 Mar 2015, at 09:20, Marcus Denker marcus.den...@inria.fr 
 mailto:marcus.den...@inria.fr wrote:
 
 
 This means having a look at the issue tracker to find some issue that are
 interesting to work on could be an idea.
 
 Maybe a trello board could be used to sync for the remote sprinters.
 
 
 https://trello.com/b/OQ2k210W https://trello.com/b/OQ2k210W
 
 It is public for viewing, for editing I think we need to add people.
 
 
 I started to add cases that people can look at.
 
   Marcus
 



Re: [Pharo-users] [Pharo-dev] Pharo sprint on Friday, 3rd April

2015-04-03 Thread Peter Uhnák
On Fri, Apr 3, 2015 at 1:07 PM, Jigyasa Grover grover.jigya...@gmail.com
wrote:

 Hey Marcus
 Anything up there for the beginners ?


I often find it interesting to try to tackle more complex issues even
though I know I will not be able to fix it - because I always learn a lot
about the system from it.

Peter


Re: [Pharo-users] [Pharo-dev] Pharo sprint on Friday, 3rd April

2015-04-03 Thread Marcus Denker

 On 03 Apr 2015, at 14:36, Jigyasa Grover grover.jigya...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Ohk.
 No issues :)
 Looking forward to other Pharo Sprints focusing on beginners :D
 

Yes… maybe other people have ideas?

Marcus




Re: [Pharo-users] [Pharo-dev] Pharo sprint on Friday, 3rd April

2015-04-03 Thread Jigyasa Grover
Hey Sean
Sure !
Am up for it
Could you suggest any specific task ?
Thanks
Jigyasa Grover

On Fri, Apr 3, 2015 at 6:06 PM, Jigyasa Grover grover.jigya...@gmail.com
wrote:

 Ohk.
 No issues :)
 Looking forward to other Pharo Sprints focusing on beginners :D

 On Fri, Apr 3, 2015 at 6:00 PM, Marcus Denker marcus.den...@inria.fr
 wrote:


 On 03 Apr 2015, at 13:07, Jigyasa Grover grover.jigya...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Hey Marcus
 Anything up there for the beginners ?


 Not really yet… I am focusing myself on Pharo4… where we are not in a
 state that simple
 things are done (which often are cleanups).

 On Fri, Apr 3, 2015 at 4:35 PM, Marcus Denker marcus.den...@inria.fr
 wrote:


 On 28 Mar 2015, at 09:20, Marcus Denker marcus.den...@inria.fr wrote:


 This means having a look at the issue tracker to find some issue that are
 interesting to work on could be an idea.

 Maybe a trello board could be used to sync for the remote sprinters.


 https://trello.com/b/OQ2k210W

 It is public for viewing, for editing I think we need to add people.


 I started to add cases that people can look at.

 Marcus







Re: [Pharo-users] [Pharo-dev] Pharo sprint on Friday, 3rd April

2015-04-03 Thread Jigyasa Grover
Ohk.
No issues :)
Looking forward to other Pharo Sprints focusing on beginners :D

On Fri, Apr 3, 2015 at 6:00 PM, Marcus Denker marcus.den...@inria.fr
wrote:


 On 03 Apr 2015, at 13:07, Jigyasa Grover grover.jigya...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Hey Marcus
 Anything up there for the beginners ?


 Not really yet… I am focusing myself on Pharo4… where we are not in a
 state that simple
 things are done (which often are cleanups).

 On Fri, Apr 3, 2015 at 4:35 PM, Marcus Denker marcus.den...@inria.fr
 wrote:


 On 28 Mar 2015, at 09:20, Marcus Denker marcus.den...@inria.fr wrote:


 This means having a look at the issue tracker to find some issue that are
 interesting to work on could be an idea.

 Maybe a trello board could be used to sync for the remote sprinters.


 https://trello.com/b/OQ2k210W

 It is public for viewing, for editing I think we need to add people.


 I started to add cases that people can look at.

 Marcus






Re: [Pharo-users] [Pharo-dev] Pharo sprint on Friday, 3rd April

2015-04-03 Thread Jigyasa Grover
Hey Marcus
Anything up there for the beginners ?

On Fri, Apr 3, 2015 at 4:35 PM, Marcus Denker marcus.den...@inria.fr
wrote:


 On 28 Mar 2015, at 09:20, Marcus Denker marcus.den...@inria.fr wrote:


 This means having a look at the issue tracker to find some issue that are
 interesting to work on could be an idea.

 Maybe a trello board could be used to sync for the remote sprinters.


 https://trello.com/b/OQ2k210W

 It is public for viewing, for editing I think we need to add people.


 I started to add cases that people can look at.

 Marcus



Re: [Pharo-users] [Pharo-dev] Pharo sprint on Friday, 3rd April

2015-04-03 Thread Jigyasa Grover
Thanks Dmitri !
Will try to contribute as much as I can :)

On Fri, Apr 3, 2015 at 9:58 PM, Dmitri Zagidulin dmi...@zagidulin.net
wrote:

 Ideas for beginners, for Sprints etc:

 * Adding class comments/documentation, as mentioned, is a fantastic idea.
 Maybe we can provide some code snippets, that will bring up a list of
 classes with missing comments (or with too-short comments, less than X
 characters). People can coordinate (on IRC, or via something like EtherPad)
 on who's working on which classes.

 * Not related to core Pharo code itself, but still very helpful: Test
 various libraries for compatibility with Pharo 4.0. Pick your favorite
 pharo-related project or library off of SmalltalkHub (or SqueakSource,
 etc), try to load it into Pharo 4. Run the unit tests. Fix stuff until it
 loads fine in 4.0.Try and use the library in a simple demo project. Best
 yet, write a blog post about it. The success of Pharo largely depends on
 the success of its ecosystem of libraries and projects.

 * Benchmark things. Which JSON library (of the several available) is
 faster at parsing large json objects in Pharo 4? That sort of thing.

 * Write blog posts in general! Write tutorials and walkthroughs on how to
 use some of the new 4.0 features. Do programming puzzles / interview
 questions and post about em. Share tips on how you theme and customize your
 Pharo images, which tools you use most, and so on.

 * As mentioned before, at least browse the open 4.0 issues on the pharo
 FogBugz. Try to think about how you'd go about discovering how to solve
 them. You'll learn a lot about the system. Also, once the issues are fixed,
 you can help test and confirm the fix (if you can figure out the 'how to
 reproduce' steps). Follow the 'to reproduce' steps to make sure you
 reproduce the error/issue. Then load the slice containing the fix from the
 pharo inbox repo, and redo the steps again to make sure it was fixed.






 On Fri, Apr 3, 2015 at 8:54 AM, Marcus Denker marcus.den...@inria.fr
 wrote:


  On 03 Apr 2015, at 14:36, Jigyasa Grover grover.jigya...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
  Ohk.
  No issues :)
  Looking forward to other Pharo Sprints focusing on beginners :D
 

 Yes… maybe other people have ideas?

 Marcus






Re: [Pharo-users] [Pharo-dev] Pharo sprint on Friday, 3rd April

2015-04-03 Thread Dmitri Zagidulin
Ideas for beginners, for Sprints etc:

* Adding class comments/documentation, as mentioned, is a fantastic idea.
Maybe we can provide some code snippets, that will bring up a list of
classes with missing comments (or with too-short comments, less than X
characters). People can coordinate (on IRC, or via something like EtherPad)
on who's working on which classes.

* Not related to core Pharo code itself, but still very helpful: Test
various libraries for compatibility with Pharo 4.0. Pick your favorite
pharo-related project or library off of SmalltalkHub (or SqueakSource,
etc), try to load it into Pharo 4. Run the unit tests. Fix stuff until it
loads fine in 4.0.Try and use the library in a simple demo project. Best
yet, write a blog post about it. The success of Pharo largely depends on
the success of its ecosystem of libraries and projects.

* Benchmark things. Which JSON library (of the several available) is faster
at parsing large json objects in Pharo 4? That sort of thing.

* Write blog posts in general! Write tutorials and walkthroughs on how to
use some of the new 4.0 features. Do programming puzzles / interview
questions and post about em. Share tips on how you theme and customize your
Pharo images, which tools you use most, and so on.

* As mentioned before, at least browse the open 4.0 issues on the pharo
FogBugz. Try to think about how you'd go about discovering how to solve
them. You'll learn a lot about the system. Also, once the issues are fixed,
you can help test and confirm the fix (if you can figure out the 'how to
reproduce' steps). Follow the 'to reproduce' steps to make sure you
reproduce the error/issue. Then load the slice containing the fix from the
pharo inbox repo, and redo the steps again to make sure it was fixed.






On Fri, Apr 3, 2015 at 8:54 AM, Marcus Denker marcus.den...@inria.fr
wrote:


  On 03 Apr 2015, at 14:36, Jigyasa Grover grover.jigya...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
  Ohk.
  No issues :)
  Looking forward to other Pharo Sprints focusing on beginners :D
 

 Yes… maybe other people have ideas?

 Marcus





Re: [Pharo-users] [Pharo-dev] Pharo sprint on Friday, 3rd April

2015-04-03 Thread Dmitri Zagidulin
On Fri, Apr 3, 2015 at 12:41 PM, Martin Bähr 
mba...@email.archlab.tuwien.ac.at wrote:

 nice ideas. though beginners may not have any favourite projects.
 are there any stats on which projects are popular so those can be chosen
 for
 testing?


You're right. I think by 'favorite', I meant more like 'areas you care
about in general, even outside of Pharo'. For example, say you're
interested in data processing in general. You can ask, How would I go
about downloading a comma-separated (CSV) file, read it into Pharo, and
display a graph? This involves learning how to do File I/O, checking to
see if there's a CSV library compatible with Pharo, and checking to see
what sort of graphing libraries exist (I believe one was mentioned recently
on the mailing list, Roassal or something). In similar vein, you can check
out XML parsers, JSON parsers, etc, etc.

Or you can ask How do I connect to a relational database? I've heard Glorp
mentioned, and OpenDBX, etc, so which of these would actually work in Pharo
4?.

Or, For example, maybe you care about social media APIs. You can then
think, Hey I wonder if there are any Twitter or Facebook client libraries
for Pharo. Maybe there's an Open Social API (
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenSocial ) library that I can check out.

That sort of thing.


  * Write blog posts in general! Write tutorials and walkthroughs on how to
  use some of the new 4.0 features.





same problem here, being new to pharo, i would not even know what the new
 features are.  this should be documented in release-notes probably.


Of course, understood. Then write posts about new user impressions of Pharo
4 (keeping in mind the usual this is open source software / the devs are
busy so don't be too harsh on them sort of stuff). Or short tutorials on
the various small things that you've figured out to do. (Like a cron job
that fires up your Pharo image on the command line).


Re: [Pharo-users] [Pharo-dev] Pharo sprint on Friday, 3rd April

2015-03-28 Thread Marcus Denker
 
 This means having a look at the issue tracker to find some issue that are
 interesting to work on could be an idea.
 
 Maybe a trello board could be used to sync for the remote sprinters.
 

https://trello.com/b/OQ2k210W https://trello.com/b/OQ2k210W

It is public for viewing, for editing I think we need to add people.

Marcus



Re: [Pharo-users] [Pharo-dev] Pharo sprint on Friday, 3rd April

2015-03-28 Thread Jean-Christophe Bach
* Hilaire hila...@drgeo.eu [27.03.2015. @22:04:29 +0100]:

 Le 27/03/2015 17:11, Jean-Christophe Bach a écrit :
  Hi Pharoers,
 
  This email as a reminder for the next Pharo sprint: it will be next
  Friday (3rd April) at Inria Lille. 
  You can also join us on the IRC channel (#pharo on irc.freenode.net
  server). During the sprint, we will try to synchronize local and remote
  Pharo sprinters.
 
  JC
 
 Hi,
 
 Is there any Pharo related things to prepare in advance if one wants to
 attempt remotely through IRC channel?
 
 Thanks
 
 -- 
 Dr. Geo - http://drgeo.eu
 iStoa - http://istoa.drgeo.eu

A Pharo environment and an IRC client :)
If you want to work on specific issues, you can check the opened issues
on fogbugz. Then you can propose them during the sprint. 

JC


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Re: [Pharo-users] [Pharo-dev] Pharo sprint on Friday, 3rd April

2015-03-28 Thread Marcus Denker

 On 27 Mar 2015, at 22:04, Hilaire hila...@drgeo.eu wrote:
 
 Le 27/03/2015 17:11, Jean-Christophe Bach a écrit :
 Hi Pharoers,
 
 This email as a reminder for the next Pharo sprint: it will be next
 Friday (3rd April) at Inria Lille. 
 You can also join us on the IRC channel (#pharo on irc.freenode.net
 server). During the sprint, we will try to synchronize local and remote
 Pharo sprinters.
 
 JC
 
 Hi,
 
 Is there any Pharo related things to prepare in advance if one wants to
 attempt remotely through IRC channel?
 

- try to connect before to check that IRC works
- we try to have some issues tagged with “sprint” on the issue tracker..
  but this time it will be focused on bugs for Pharo4, I guess.

This means having a look at the issue tracker to find some issue that are
interesting to work on could be an idea.

Maybe a trello board could be used to sync for the remote sprinters.

Marcus