[Pharo-users] How to send messages to an object.
Hi, Suppose I do: Morph new openInWorld and then: EllipseMorph new openInWorld without referencing them to a variable. How do I access those objects? Since the only thing I know is that is a "a Morph(428605440)" and a "an EllipseMorph(448004096)" If I want to Morph(428605440) addMorph: EllipseMorph(448004096) How do I achieve this? Because they are both object living in the system but I can not reference them. Thanks in advance Nacho - Nacho Smalltalker apprentice. Buenos Aires, Argentina. -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/How-to-send-messages-to-an-object-tp4804394.html Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
Re: [Pharo-users] How to send messages to an object.
2015-02-07 17:46 GMT-03:00 nacho <0800na...@gmail.com>: > Hi, > Suppose I do: > Morph new openInWorld > > and then: > EllipseMorph new openInWorld > > without referencing them to a variable. > How do I access those objects? > Morph new openInWorld inspect. Morph new openInWorld explore. or Morph new openInWorld right-click inspect, explore or debug in the opened window, you can use the lower text pane to send messages to the object. > Since the only thing I know is that is a "a Morph(428605440)" and a "an > EllipseMorph(448004096)" > If I want to Morph(428605440) addMorph: EllipseMorph(448004096) > How do I achieve this? > Because they are both object living in the system but I can not reference > them. > Thanks in advance > Nacho > > > > > > - > Nacho > Smalltalker apprentice. > Buenos Aires, Argentina. > -- > View this message in context: > http://forum.world.st/How-to-send-messages-to-an-object-tp4804394.html > Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > >
Re: [Pharo-users] How to send messages to an object.
nacho wrote > How do I achieve this? Two options: 1. (Unscalable hack) Identify them by a unique feature of their description e.g. "(World submorphs detect: [ :e | e color = Color blue ]) addMorph: (World submorphs detect: [ :e | e isKindOf: EllipseMorph ])" 2. Bring back a feature like that of MathMorphs [1, pg. 9], which had a revolutionary interface where, for each argument to a message, you drag an object token (a Morph) onto the message receiver, and then select the message via a context menu. I've been playing around with this and other ideas in my LivingCode project. In the screencast at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ejQh6wkII2Y, you can see a rough proof of concept - creating two tokens for your two Morphs, and then supplying the ellipse's token as an argument for the other Morph. [1] http://coweb.cc.gatech.edu:/squeakbook/uploads/tex-mathmorphs.pdf - Cheers, Sean -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/How-to-send-messages-to-an-object-tp4804394p4804407.html Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
Re: [Pharo-users] How to send messages to an object.
@Hernan Sending a message to an object using the inspector allows me to do: self addMoprh: EllipseMorph new. But what I want is to add a morph to another morph that is already instantiated. I want to reference the object that is somewhere in the memory an be able to manipulated even if I have not assigned it a reference | aMorph |. @Sean As I told you, your Self World is impressive. I see how easy is to do what I want in that Self World. I will take a look at MathMorphs, I think I've tried to make it work in Pharo but had no success. Thanks both of your for your answers Best Nacho - Nacho Smalltalker apprentice. Buenos Aires, Argentina. -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/How-to-send-messages-to-an-object-tp4804394p4804408.html Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
Re: [Pharo-users] How to send messages to an object.
2015-02-07 19:28 GMT-03:00 nacho <0800na...@gmail.com>: > @Hernan > Sending a message to an object using the inspector allows me to do: > self addMoprh: EllipseMorph new. > > But what I want is to add a morph to another morph that is already > instantiated. > Use the halos. In Windows is Alt+Shift+Left click over your morph. Then select the Menu halo (red) -> debug... -> explore morph Hernán
Re: [Pharo-users] How to send messages to an object.
hernanmd wrote > Use the halos... select the Menu halo (red) -> debug... -> explore morph Yes, you can bring up an inspector/explorer on each morph, but the hiccup is how do you connect them i.e. send one as an argument to the other? - Cheers, Sean -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/How-to-send-messages-to-an-object-tp4804394p4804413.html Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
Re: [Pharo-users] How to send messages to an object.
I see! something like? self addMorphCentered: (EllipseMorph allInstances detect: [ : i | i name = 'an EllipseMorph(485752832)' ]) 2015-02-07 19:39 GMT-03:00 Sean P. DeNigris : > hernanmd wrote > > Use the halos... select the Menu halo (red) -> debug... -> explore morph > > Yes, you can bring up an inspector/explorer on each morph, but the hiccup > is > how do you connect them i.e. send one as an argument to the other? > > > > - > Cheers, > Sean > -- > View this message in context: > http://forum.world.st/How-to-send-messages-to-an-object-tp4804394p4804413.html > Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > >
Re: [Pharo-users] How to send messages to an object.
What if inspectors and workspaces were able to copy-paste object references? When pasting, a new binding would be made with some automatic name. I always wondered why this was not part of Morphic… On 7 February 2015 at 23:52, Hernán Morales Durand wrote: > I see! something like? > > self addMorphCentered: (EllipseMorph allInstances detect: [ : i | i name = > 'an EllipseMorph(485752832)' ]) > > > 2015-02-07 19:39 GMT-03:00 Sean P. DeNigris : > > hernanmd wrote >> > Use the halos... select the Menu halo (red) -> debug... -> explore morph >> >> Yes, you can bring up an inspector/explorer on each morph, but the hiccup >> is >> how do you connect them i.e. send one as an argument to the other? >> >> >> >> - >> Cheers, >> Sean >> -- >> View this message in context: >> http://forum.world.st/How-to-send-messages-to-an-object-tp4804394p4804413.html >> Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. >> >> >
Re: [Pharo-users] How to send messages to an object.
Indeed, this is a little feature a proper object-oriented environment should not miss :) Doru On Sun, Feb 8, 2015 at 12:02 AM, Damien Pollet < damien.pollet+ph...@gmail.com> wrote: > What if inspectors and workspaces were able to copy-paste object > references? > When pasting, a new binding would be made with some automatic name. > > I always wondered why this was not part of Morphic… > > On 7 February 2015 at 23:52, Hernán Morales Durand < > hernan.mora...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> I see! something like? >> >> self addMorphCentered: (EllipseMorph allInstances detect: [ : i | i name >> = 'an EllipseMorph(485752832)' ]) >> >> >> 2015-02-07 19:39 GMT-03:00 Sean P. DeNigris : >> >> hernanmd wrote >>> > Use the halos... select the Menu halo (red) -> debug... -> explore >>> morph >>> >>> Yes, you can bring up an inspector/explorer on each morph, but the >>> hiccup is >>> how do you connect them i.e. send one as an argument to the other? >>> >>> >>> >>> - >>> Cheers, >>> Sean >>> -- >>> View this message in context: >>> http://forum.world.st/How-to-send-messages-to-an-object-tp4804394p4804413.html >>> Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. >>> >>> >> > -- www.tudorgirba.com "Every thing has its own flow"
Re: [Pharo-users] How to send messages to an object.
Yes, but please don't just limit it to UI things. I want to be able to 'Copy an object' to an 'Object Clipboard' when I am on 'self' in an Inspector. And I want to be able to 'Paste an object' in a slot of an Inspector, or wherever that makes sense. I always emulate this with a global, like XXX or ObjectClipboard, but it should be possible to do this without typing. > On 08 Feb 2015, at 00:13, Tudor Girba wrote: > > Indeed, this is a little feature a proper object-oriented environment should > not miss :) > > Doru > > On Sun, Feb 8, 2015 at 12:02 AM, Damien Pollet > wrote: > What if inspectors and workspaces were able to copy-paste object references? > When pasting, a new binding would be made with some automatic name. > > I always wondered why this was not part of Morphic… > > On 7 February 2015 at 23:52, Hernán Morales Durand > wrote: > I see! something like? > > self addMorphCentered: (EllipseMorph allInstances detect: [ : i | i name = > 'an EllipseMorph(485752832)' ]) > > > 2015-02-07 19:39 GMT-03:00 Sean P. DeNigris : > > hernanmd wrote > > Use the halos... select the Menu halo (red) -> debug... -> explore morph > > Yes, you can bring up an inspector/explorer on each morph, but the hiccup is > how do you connect them i.e. send one as an argument to the other? > > > > - > Cheers, > Sean > -- > View this message in context: > http://forum.world.st/How-to-send-messages-to-an-object-tp4804394p4804413.html > Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > > > > > > > -- > www.tudorgirba.com > > "Every thing has its own flow"
Re: [Pharo-users] How to send messages to an object.
If you want to do it as part of your application, maybe** look into sender and implementers of #acceptDroppingMorph:event: cheers -ben ** I have no great experience with this. Just had a poke around for an answer. On Sun, Feb 8, 2015 at 7:21 AM, Sven Van Caekenberghe wrote: > Yes, but please don't just limit it to UI things. > > I want to be able to 'Copy an object' to an 'Object Clipboard' when I am > on 'self' in an Inspector. And I want to be able to 'Paste an object' in a > slot of an Inspector, or wherever that makes sense. > > I always emulate this with a global, like XXX or ObjectClipboard, but it > should be possible to do this without typing. > > > On 08 Feb 2015, at 00:13, Tudor Girba wrote: > > > > Indeed, this is a little feature a proper object-oriented environment > should not miss :) > > > > Doru > > > > On Sun, Feb 8, 2015 at 12:02 AM, Damien Pollet < > damien.pollet+ph...@gmail.com> wrote: > > What if inspectors and workspaces were able to copy-paste object > references? > > When pasting, a new binding would be made with some automatic name. > > > > I always wondered why this was not part of Morphic… > > > > On 7 February 2015 at 23:52, Hernán Morales Durand < > hernan.mora...@gmail.com> wrote: > > I see! something like? > > > > self addMorphCentered: (EllipseMorph allInstances detect: [ : i | i name > = 'an EllipseMorph(485752832)' ]) > > > > > > 2015-02-07 19:39 GMT-03:00 Sean P. DeNigris : > > > > hernanmd wrote > > > Use the halos... select the Menu halo (red) -> debug... -> explore > morph > > > > Yes, you can bring up an inspector/explorer on each morph, but the > hiccup is > > how do you connect them i.e. send one as an argument to the other? > > > > > > > > - > > Cheers, > > Sean > > -- > > View this message in context: > http://forum.world.st/How-to-send-messages-to-an-object-tp4804394p4804413.html > > Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > www.tudorgirba.com > > > > "Every thing has its own flow" > > >
