Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo on retina macbook

2014-09-05 Thread Tommaso Dal Sasso


On 04/09/14 07:46, Johan Brichau wrote:

Hi,

I just started using a Macbook pro with retina display.
I notice the fonts are quite blurry. Is there something one can do to improve 
that?

Johan

Hi,

I use a Macbook pro with retina. Some time ago I found that you can run 
Pharo in Low resolution mode.
You can try that by right-clicking on the virtual machine application, 
selecting Get Info and checking Open in low resolution.


See if that improves the situation for you until the problem is 
addressed on a higher level.


Tommaso



Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo on retina macbook

2014-09-04 Thread Ben Coman

Johan Brichau wrote:

Hi,

I just started using a Macbook pro with retina display.
I notice the fonts are quite blurry. Is there something one can do to improve 
that?

Johan

  


What version of Pharo?
What version of OSX?
What fonts?

I'm not sure of these details, but it will give you some things to think 
about and try (and someone can correct me otherwise).
* Pharo's default font is still a bitmap StikeFont. 
* StrikeFont bitmaps are sub-pixel anti-aliased.

* Sub-pixel anti-aliases
* Retina display sometimes have sub-pixel rendering turned off, or maybe 
otherwise problem.


Try...
* Choosing a TrueType font
* Changing some OSX display settings
  * 
http://graphicdesign.stackexchange.com/questions/8277/how-does-apples-retina-display-affect-sub-pixel-rendering
  * 
http://superuser.com/questions/457153/getting-crisper-fonts-in-os-x-after-switching-from-windows

  * http://www.macworld.com/article/1145157/smoothsnow.html
  * 
http://graphicdesign.stackexchange.com/questions/8277/how-does-apples-retina-display-affect-sub-pixel-rendering


Please report your results.
cheers -ben



Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo on retina macbook

2014-09-04 Thread Tudor Girba
Hi,

This should be a known issue as it was raised before. The problem occurs
with any font. It has to do with the VM as far as I understood. I am not
sure what is needed to be done, though.

Cheers,
Doru


On Thu, Sep 4, 2014 at 9:20 AM, Ben Coman b...@openinworld.com wrote:

 Johan Brichau wrote:

 Hi,

 I just started using a Macbook pro with retina display.
 I notice the fonts are quite blurry. Is there something one can do to
 improve that?

 Johan




 What version of Pharo?
 What version of OSX?
 What fonts?

 I'm not sure of these details, but it will give you some things to think
 about and try (and someone can correct me otherwise).
 * Pharo's default font is still a bitmap StikeFont. * StrikeFont bitmaps
 are sub-pixel anti-aliased.
 * Sub-pixel anti-aliases
 * Retina display sometimes have sub-pixel rendering turned off, or maybe
 otherwise problem.

 Try...
 * Choosing a TrueType font
 * Changing some OSX display settings
   * http://graphicdesign.stackexchange.com/questions/
 8277/how-does-apples-retina-display-affect-sub-pixel-rendering
   * http://superuser.com/questions/457153/getting-
 crisper-fonts-in-os-x-after-switching-from-windows
   * http://www.macworld.com/article/1145157/smoothsnow.html
   * http://graphicdesign.stackexchange.com/questions/
 8277/how-does-apples-retina-display-affect-sub-pixel-rendering

 Please report your results.
 cheers -ben




-- 
www.tudorgirba.com

Every thing has its own flow


Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo on retina macbook

2014-09-04 Thread Igor Stasenko
on retina, the display bitmap are 2x scaled.


On 4 September 2014 09:56, Tudor Girba tu...@tudorgirba.com wrote:

 Hi,

 This should be a known issue as it was raised before. The problem occurs
 with any font. It has to do with the VM as far as I understood. I am not
 sure what is needed to be done, though.

 Cheers,
 Doru


 On Thu, Sep 4, 2014 at 9:20 AM, Ben Coman b...@openinworld.com wrote:

 Johan Brichau wrote:

 Hi,

 I just started using a Macbook pro with retina display.
 I notice the fonts are quite blurry. Is there something one can do to
 improve that?

 Johan




 What version of Pharo?
 What version of OSX?
 What fonts?

 I'm not sure of these details, but it will give you some things to think
 about and try (and someone can correct me otherwise).
 * Pharo's default font is still a bitmap StikeFont. * StrikeFont bitmaps
 are sub-pixel anti-aliased.
 * Sub-pixel anti-aliases
 * Retina display sometimes have sub-pixel rendering turned off, or maybe
 otherwise problem.

 Try...
 * Choosing a TrueType font
 * Changing some OSX display settings
   * http://graphicdesign.stackexchange.com/questions/
 8277/how-does-apples-retina-display-affect-sub-pixel-rendering
   * http://superuser.com/questions/457153/getting-
 crisper-fonts-in-os-x-after-switching-from-windows
   * http://www.macworld.com/article/1145157/smoothsnow.html
   * http://graphicdesign.stackexchange.com/questions/
 8277/how-does-apples-retina-display-affect-sub-pixel-rendering

 Please report your results.
 cheers -ben




 --
 www.tudorgirba.com

 Every thing has its own flow




-- 
Best regards,
Igor Stasenko.


Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo on retina macbook

2014-09-04 Thread Igor Stasenko
i'm wrong.. it scales only on ipads..
not on OS X.


On 4 September 2014 11:09, Igor Stasenko siguc...@gmail.com wrote:

 on retina, the display bitmap are 2x scaled.


 On 4 September 2014 09:56, Tudor Girba tu...@tudorgirba.com wrote:

 Hi,

 This should be a known issue as it was raised before. The problem occurs
 with any font. It has to do with the VM as far as I understood. I am not
 sure what is needed to be done, though.

 Cheers,
 Doru


 On Thu, Sep 4, 2014 at 9:20 AM, Ben Coman b...@openinworld.com wrote:

 Johan Brichau wrote:

 Hi,

 I just started using a Macbook pro with retina display.
 I notice the fonts are quite blurry. Is there something one can do to
 improve that?

 Johan




 What version of Pharo?
 What version of OSX?
 What fonts?

 I'm not sure of these details, but it will give you some things to think
 about and try (and someone can correct me otherwise).
 * Pharo's default font is still a bitmap StikeFont. * StrikeFont bitmaps
 are sub-pixel anti-aliased.
 * Sub-pixel anti-aliases
 * Retina display sometimes have sub-pixel rendering turned off, or maybe
 otherwise problem.

 Try...
 * Choosing a TrueType font
 * Changing some OSX display settings
   * http://graphicdesign.stackexchange.com/questions/
 8277/how-does-apples-retina-display-affect-sub-pixel-rendering
   * http://superuser.com/questions/457153/getting-
 crisper-fonts-in-os-x-after-switching-from-windows
   * http://www.macworld.com/article/1145157/smoothsnow.html
   * http://graphicdesign.stackexchange.com/questions/
 8277/how-does-apples-retina-display-affect-sub-pixel-rendering

 Please report your results.
 cheers -ben




 --
 www.tudorgirba.com

 Every thing has its own flow




 --
 Best regards,
 Igor Stasenko.




-- 
Best regards,
Igor Stasenko.


Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo on retina macbook

2014-09-04 Thread volk...@nivoba.de
I have the same problem with a Lenovo Yoga2 13 (Win 8.1) with a QHD+ 
Display. It has 3200x1800 px.


BW,
Volkert

Am 04.09.2014 um 07:46 schrieb Johan Brichau:

Hi,

I just started using a Macbook pro with retina display.
I notice the fonts are quite blurry. Is there something one can do to improve 
that?

Johan


--
www.nivoba.de

The more complex an object, the larger the investment in learning to use it, and 
the greater the resistance to abandon it., NW




Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo on retina macbook

2014-09-04 Thread Ben Coman

Johan Brichau wrote:

Hi,

I just started using a Macbook pro with retina display.
I notice the fonts are quite blurry. Is there something one can do to improve 
that?

Johan

  


Oh! I just found the real cause of your problem. It turtles all the way 
down...

http://xkcd.com/1416/



Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo on retina macbook

2014-09-04 Thread Johan Brichau
Hi again,

 This should be a known issue as it was raised before. The problem occurs with 
 any font. It has to do with the VM as far as I understood. I am not sure what 
 is needed to be done, though.

I know this was raised when the retina display came out but I did not follow 
any development since I was not using one.
Now, I thought it had been fixed because, surely, I must not be the only one 
using a retina macbook with Pharo? 

Anyway, I can understand if this is a known issue but is it well understood 
what should be done?

 What version of Pharo?
30856

 What version of OSX?
10.9.4

 What fonts?
Any font that I can select in Pharo actually.

thanks for the links below. I will try and report results.

Johan

 I'm not sure of these details, but it will give you some things to think 
 about and try (and someone can correct me otherwise).
 * Pharo's default font is still a bitmap StikeFont. * StrikeFont bitmaps are 
 sub-pixel anti-aliased.
 * Sub-pixel anti-aliases
 * Retina display sometimes have sub-pixel rendering turned off, or maybe 
 otherwise problem.
 
 Try...
 * Choosing a TrueType font
 * Changing some OSX display settings
   * 
 http://graphicdesign.stackexchange.com/questions/8277/how-does-apples-retina-display-affect-sub-pixel-rendering
   * 
 http://superuser.com/questions/457153/getting-crisper-fonts-in-os-x-after-switching-from-windows
   * http://www.macworld.com/article/1145157/smoothsnow.html
   * 
 http://graphicdesign.stackexchange.com/questions/8277/how-does-apples-retina-display-affect-sub-pixel-rendering


 Please report your results.





[Pharo-users] Pharo on retina macbook

2014-09-03 Thread Johan Brichau
Hi,

I just started using a Macbook pro with retina display.
I notice the fonts are quite blurry. Is there something one can do to improve 
that?

Johan