Re: [Pharo-users] Smalltalkhub & Squeaksource3

[Mark Bratcher]

Oy. I am so sorry. :-/ I would drop that box down and my gaze stopped at 
the license I ultimately had in mind. Thanks.



On 6/16/2016 2:06 AM, Esteban Lorenzano wrote:


On 16 Jun 2016, at 03:42, Mark Bratcher > wrote:


Does anyone know on what part of this project setup screen on 
smalltalkhub.com  does one set the project 
to be "private"? I see the checkbox that determines whether it is 
publicly writable, but I don't see one that marks it publicly 
unreadable. I hear the capability exists.


http://i.stack.imgur.com/8wRN9.jpg

I'm sure it's something silly/simple and I'm just not seeing it.



yeah, simple but not evident (because capability was added in last 
moment).

Is in the “licence” combo box.

Esteban


Thanks

Mark



On 06/15/2016 10:06 AM, Mark Bratcher wrote:

A couple of easy ones:

1) Does smalltalkhub.com  support private 
projects (used, e.g., for CI)? I've seen a couple of posts on 
random forums dating back a couple of years indicating that it did, 
but when I went to create a project, I didn't see an option to make 
it private.


2) Is Squeaksource 3 (http://ss3.gemtalksystems.com/ss) currently 
maintained? It still says "public alpha" and latest comments 
anywhere or submissions to their tracker are old. Who is the 
current owner?

Re: [Pharo-users] Smalltalkhub & Squeaksource3

[Esteban Lorenzano]

> On 16 Jun 2016, at 03:42, Mark Bratcher  wrote:
> 
> Does anyone know on what part of this project setup screen on 
> smalltalkhub.com does one set the project to be "private"? I see the checkbox 
> that determines whether it is publicly writable, but I don't see one that 
> marks it publicly unreadable. I hear the capability exists.
> http://i.stack.imgur.com/8wRN9.jpg 
> I'm sure it's something silly/simple and I'm just not seeing it.
> 

yeah, simple but not evident (because capability was added in last moment). 
Is in the “licence” combo box. 

Esteban

> Thanks
> 
> Mark
> 
>> On 06/15/2016 10:06 AM, Mark Bratcher wrote:
>>> A couple of easy ones:
>>> 
>>> 1) Does smalltalkhub.com  support private 
>>> projects (used, e.g., for CI)? I've seen a couple of posts on random forums 
>>> dating back a couple of years indicating that it did, but when I went to 
>>> create a project, I didn't see an option to make it private.
>>> 
>>> 2) Is Squeaksource 3 (http://ss3.gemtalksystems.com/ss 
>>> ) currently maintained? It still says 
>>> "public alpha" and latest comments anywhere or submissions to their tracker 
>>> are old. Who is the current owner?
>> 
> 

Re: [Pharo-users] Smalltalkhub & Squeaksource3

[Sean P. DeNigris]

mbratch wrote
> My question is specifically about smalltalkhub and whether private
> projects
> are possible there

Beware: All communication with ss3 and sthub servers is unencrypted. I've
moved all private projects to BitBucket.



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Re: [Pharo-users] Smalltalkhub & Squeaksource3

[Mark Bratcher]

Does anyone know on what part of this project setup screen on 
smalltalkhub.com does one set the project to be "private"? I see the 
checkbox that determines whether it is publicly writable, but I don't 
see one that marks it publicly unreadable. I hear the capability exists.


http://i.stack.imgur.com/8wRN9.jpg

I'm sure it's something silly/simple and I'm just not seeing it.

Thanks

Mark



On 06/15/2016 10:06 AM, Mark Bratcher wrote:

A couple of easy ones:

1) Does smalltalkhub.com  support private 
projects (used, e.g., for CI)? I've seen a couple of posts on random 
forums dating back a couple of years indicating that it did, but when 
I went to create a project, I didn't see an option to make it private.


2) Is Squeaksource 3 (http://ss3.gemtalksystems.com/ss) currently 
maintained? It still says "public alpha" and latest comments anywhere 
or submissions to their tracker are old. Who is the current owner?

Re: [Pharo-users] Smalltalkhub & Squeaksource3

[Mark Bratcher]

Thank you, Dale. That's an excellent summary and very helpful.

Right now, I've been using SS3 because it's clear how to set up. On
Smalltalkhub, it's unclear to me how to make a project private, although I
keep hearing it can be done. I've just not seen instruction on how to do
it, and the project setup page doesn't have an option for it. SS3 also has
the source browser, which is useful.

I have a github account and I'll have to look into using Git with
Monticello and see how that works.

Mark


On Wed, Jun 15, 2016 at 2:36 PM, Dale Henrichs <
dale.henri...@gemtalksystems.com> wrote:

>
>
> On 06/15/2016 10:06 AM, Mark Bratcher wrote:
>
> A couple of easy ones:
>
> 1) Does smalltalkhub.com support private projects (used, e.g., for CI)?
> I've seen a couple of posts on random forums dating back a couple of years
> indicating that it did, but when I went to create a project, I didn't see
> an option to make it private.
>
> 2) Is Squeaksource 3 (http://ss3.gemtalksystems.com/ss) currently
> maintained? It still says "public alpha" and latest comments anywhere or
> submissions to their tracker are old. Who is the current owner?
>
> SqueakSource3 is hosted by GemTalk Systems and we continue to make daily
> backups and keep the system up and running.
>
> The latest version of SqueakSource3 is being maintained by Tobias Pape and
> is currently in production at HPI.
>
> SqueakSource3 is "frozen as an alpha", because the SS3 alpha was turned on
> a month or so before the plan to create SmalltalkHub was announced at which
> time I stopped development on SS3 expecting SS3 to eventually be turned off
> ... unfortunately SmalltalkHub was late going into production and I was
> asked to please start doing daily backups and make SS3 available until
> SmalltalkHub came on-line ... IIRC it took somewhere around a year for
> SmalltalkHub to come on-line and by that time it was "too late" to simply
> turn off SS3.
>
> I have moved on to use Git and GitHub as a public source code repository
> and we at GemTalk Systems continue to run SS3 as a courtesy to the community
>
> There have been periodic plans to either upgrade SS3 or replace SS3 with
> an up-to-date version of SqueakSource over the years, but the user
> community seems to be satisfied with the status quo and the system has been
> pretty stable over the years.
>
> If volunteers step forward to drive an effort to upgrade/replace SS3 I
> would be completely supportive of the effort, but I don't have the cycles
> to lead such an effort.
>
> Dale
>
>

Re: [Pharo-users] Smalltalkhub & Squeaksource3

[Dale Henrichs]

On 06/15/2016 10:06 AM, Mark Bratcher wrote:

A couple of easy ones:

1) Does smalltalkhub.com  support private 
projects (used, e.g., for CI)? I've seen a couple of posts on random 
forums dating back a couple of years indicating that it did, but when 
I went to create a project, I didn't see an option to make it private.


2) Is Squeaksource 3 (http://ss3.gemtalksystems.com/ss) currently 
maintained? It still says "public alpha" and latest comments anywhere 
or submissions to their tracker are old. Who is the current owner?
SqueakSource3 is hosted by GemTalk Systems and we continue to make daily 
backups and keep the system up and running.


The latest version of SqueakSource3 is being maintained by Tobias Pape 
and is currently in production at HPI.


SqueakSource3 is "frozen as an alpha", because the SS3 alpha was turned 
on a month or so before the plan to create SmalltalkHub was announced at 
which time I stopped development on SS3 expecting SS3 to eventually be 
turned off ... unfortunately SmalltalkHub was late going into production 
and I was asked to please start doing daily backups and make SS3 
available until SmalltalkHub came on-line ... IIRC it took somewhere 
around a year for SmalltalkHub to come on-line and by that time it was 
"too late" to simply turn off SS3.


I have moved on to use Git and GitHub as a public source code repository 
and we at GemTalk Systems continue to run SS3 as a courtesy to the community


There have been periodic plans to either upgrade SS3 or replace SS3 with 
an up-to-date version of SqueakSource over the years, but the user 
community seems to be satisfied with the status quo and the system has 
been pretty stable over the years.


If volunteers step forward to drive an effort to upgrade/replace SS3 I 
would be completely supportive of the effort, but I don't have the 
cycles to lead such an effort.


Dale

Re: [Pharo-users] Smalltalkhub & Squeaksource3

[Mark Bratcher]

Great. So how do you make a project private in sthub?

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On Jun 15, 2016, 2:19 PM, at 2:19 PM, Esteban Lorenzano  
wrote:
>yes, they are
>
>> On 15 Jun 2016, at 20:08, Mark Bratcher  wrote:
>> 
>> Yes, I know there are alternatives. SS3 actually allows private
>projects and I've started using it. But favor seems to be toward
>smalltalkhub. My question is specifically about smalltalkhub and
>whether private projects are possible there.
>> 
>> On Wed, Jun 15, 2016 at 1:42 PM, Peter Uhnak > wrote:
>> On Wed, Jun 15, 2016 at 01:06:08PM -0400, Mark Bratcher wrote:
>> > A couple of easy ones:
>> >
>> > 1) Does smalltalkhub.com  support private
>projects (used, e.g., for CI)?
>> > I've seen a couple of posts on random forums dating back a couple
>of years
>> > indicating that it did, but when I went to create a project, I
>didn't see
>> > an option to make it private.
>> 
>> I don't know about sthub/ss3, but BitBucket offers free private
>projects, so you can use that.
>> 
>> Peter
>> 
>> 

Re: [Pharo-users] Smalltalkhub & Squeaksource3

[Esteban Lorenzano]

yes, they are

> On 15 Jun 2016, at 20:08, Mark Bratcher  wrote:
> 
> Yes, I know there are alternatives. SS3 actually allows private projects and 
> I've started using it. But favor seems to be toward smalltalkhub. My question 
> is specifically about smalltalkhub and whether private projects are possible 
> there.
> 
> On Wed, Jun 15, 2016 at 1:42 PM, Peter Uhnak  > wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 15, 2016 at 01:06:08PM -0400, Mark Bratcher wrote:
> > A couple of easy ones:
> >
> > 1) Does smalltalkhub.com  support private 
> > projects (used, e.g., for CI)?
> > I've seen a couple of posts on random forums dating back a couple of years
> > indicating that it did, but when I went to create a project, I didn't see
> > an option to make it private.
> 
> I don't know about sthub/ss3, but BitBucket offers free private projects, so 
> you can use that.
> 
> Peter
> 
> 

Re: [Pharo-users] Smalltalkhub & Squeaksource3

[Mark Bratcher]

Yes, I know there are alternatives. SS3 actually allows private projects
and I've started using it. But favor seems to be toward smalltalkhub. My
question is specifically about smalltalkhub and whether private projects
are possible there.

On Wed, Jun 15, 2016 at 1:42 PM, Peter Uhnak  wrote:

> On Wed, Jun 15, 2016 at 01:06:08PM -0400, Mark Bratcher wrote:
> > A couple of easy ones:
> >
> > 1) Does smalltalkhub.com support private projects (used, e.g., for CI)?
> > I've seen a couple of posts on random forums dating back a couple of
> years
> > indicating that it did, but when I went to create a project, I didn't see
> > an option to make it private.
>
> I don't know about sthub/ss3, but BitBucket offers free private projects,
> so you can use that.
>
> Peter
>
>

Re: [Pharo-users] Smalltalkhub & Squeaksource3

[Peter Uhnak]

On Wed, Jun 15, 2016 at 01:06:08PM -0400, Mark Bratcher wrote:
> A couple of easy ones:
> 
> 1) Does smalltalkhub.com support private projects (used, e.g., for CI)?
> I've seen a couple of posts on random forums dating back a couple of years
> indicating that it did, but when I went to create a project, I didn't see
> an option to make it private.

I don't know about sthub/ss3, but BitBucket offers free private projects, so 
you can use that.

Peter

[Pharo-users] Smalltalkhub & Squeaksource3

[Mark Bratcher]

A couple of easy ones:

1) Does smalltalkhub.com support private projects (used, e.g., for CI)?
I've seen a couple of posts on random forums dating back a couple of years
indicating that it did, but when I went to create a project, I didn't see
an option to make it private.

2) Is Squeaksource 3 (http://ss3.gemtalksystems.com/ss) currently
maintained? It still says "public alpha" and latest comments anywhere or
submissions to their tracker are old. Who is the current owner?

Thanks
Mark