Re: [Pharo-users] [Pharo-dev] [ANN] Pharo3 Dark Theme is available
Thanks a lot, I've been waiting (and tried yes :) this for years ! Laurent Le jeudi 1 mai 2014, 13:24:15 Esteban Lorenzano a écrit : > Dark Theme for Pharo 3 > == > > So, I finally took some time and hacked a Dark Theme for Pharo 3: > > > > How you install it? You need to execute this script: > > “1. You need this because otherwise Gofer merge becomes dumb :P" > MCRepositoryGroup default > addRepository: (MCSmalltalkhubRepository > owner: 'estebanlm' > project: 'Pharo3DarkTheme'). > “2. Now we can actually MERGE the project" > Gofer it > smalltalkhubUser: 'estebanlm' project: 'Pharo3DarkTheme'; > package: 'Pharo3DarkTheme'; > merge. > “3. And then install it" > Pharo3DarkTheme installFullTheme. > > WARNING 1: You need to do a merge (notice the script) > WARNING 2: Yes, this is a HACK (also: an ugly hack). See below for details. > WARNING 3: This changes something in the Pharo3Theme too... so you can go > back after installing, but not completely :) > > Considerations > -- > > It can look like an easy task, to make a theme over a non native GUI like > Pharo, but let me tell you: It is not. There are a lot of glitches and errors > of design you have to overcome to get a working version of a theme. This is a > pitty because we claim that our system is clean (or should be clean) and easy > to understand. > > But all the Morphic implementation is a hack over a hack, with preconcepts > and hardcodes everywhere, up to a point that to make the smallest change is > an incredibly annoying task. > > Then... I added ""yet another hack"" to this infinite list. I made it because > we need something like this, even if not a good solution. And I also made it > to start a debate into our community. I truly believe that Morphic was a > great idea, but I also believe that current implementation is doomed. I would > like to discuss a new implementation, with a good design (for example I > believe it should be a clear separation between a morph and it's skin, making > easy the actual-hard task of changing a colorset). > I also believe there will be a clear separation between what is a Morph (a > graphical unit) and a Widget (who at the time should use morphs, but that's > another story). > Etc., etc., etc. > > So, will we start the longtime postponed effort of effectively replace > current Morphic? > > In the mean time, enjoy the theme. Is so cool that I'm considering making it > my default theme :P > > Esteban >
Re: [Pharo-users] [Pharo-dev] [ANN] Pharo3 Dark Theme is available
On 01 May 2014, at 14:07, Sven Van Caekenberghe wrote: > Wow! > > This will make a couple of people very happy, and it is quite impressive. thanks! yes I made it for Phil and Yuriy :) > > Seriously, you found time to finish this while labouring during days on the > Pharo 3 release, are you sure you are not extra-terrestial ? well.. there were some dead moments while waiting for things to be ready (but I wasn’t able to work on more complicated things, I needed to keep my concentration on the release)… and then I have insomnia :P Esteban > > Works like a charm : > > > > Thanks. > > Sven > > PS: Yes, we should do the effort to make it possible to do this for real > (clean). > > On 01 May 2014, at 13:24, Esteban Lorenzano wrote: > >> Dark Theme for Pharo 3 >> == >> >> So, I finally took some time and hacked a Dark Theme for Pharo 3: >> >> >> >> How you install it? You need to execute this script: >> >> “1. You need this because otherwise Gofer merge becomes dumb :P" >> MCRepositoryGroup default >> addRepository: (MCSmalltalkhubRepository >> owner: 'estebanlm' >> project: 'Pharo3DarkTheme'). >> “2. Now we can actually MERGE the project" >> Gofer it >> smalltalkhubUser: 'estebanlm' project: 'Pharo3DarkTheme'; >> package: 'Pharo3DarkTheme'; >> merge. >> “3. And then install it" >> Pharo3DarkTheme installFullTheme. >> >> WARNING 1: You need to do a merge (notice the script) >> WARNING 2: Yes, this is a HACK (also: an ugly hack). See below for details. >> WARNING 3: This changes something in the Pharo3Theme too... so you can go >> back after installing, but not completely :) >> >> Considerations >> -- >> >> It can look like an easy task, to make a theme over a non native GUI like >> Pharo, but let me tell you: It is not. There are a lot of glitches and >> errors of design you have to overcome to get a working version of a theme. >> This is a pitty because we claim that our system is clean (or should be >> clean) and easy to understand. >> >> But all the Morphic implementation is a hack over a hack, with preconcepts >> and hardcodes everywhere, up to a point that to make the smallest change is >> an incredibly annoying task. >> >> Then... I added ""yet another hack"" to this infinite list. I made it >> because we need something like this, even if not a good solution. And I also >> made it to start a debate into our community. I truly believe that Morphic >> was a great idea, but I also believe that current implementation is doomed. >> I would like to discuss a new implementation, with a good design (for >> example I believe it should be a clear separation between a morph and it's >> skin, making easy the actual-hard task of changing a colorset). >> I also believe there will be a clear separation between what is a Morph (a >> graphical unit) and a Widget (who at the time should use morphs, but that's >> another story). >> Etc., etc., etc. >> >> So, will we start the longtime postponed effort of effectively replace >> current Morphic? >> >> In the mean time, enjoy the theme. Is so cool that I'm considering making it >> my default theme :P >> >> Esteban >> >
Re: [Pharo-users] [Pharo-dev] [ANN] Pharo3 Dark Theme is available
Very well done! Nico Esteban Lorenzano writes: > Dark Theme for Pharo 3 > == > > So, I finally took some time and hacked a Dark Theme for Pharo 3: > > > > How you install it? You need to execute this script: > > “1. You need this because otherwise Gofer merge becomes dumb :P" > MCRepositoryGroup default > addRepository: (MCSmalltalkhubRepository > owner: 'estebanlm' > project: 'Pharo3DarkTheme'). > “2. Now we can actually MERGE the project" > Gofer it > smalltalkhubUser: 'estebanlm' project: 'Pharo3DarkTheme'; > package: 'Pharo3DarkTheme'; > merge. > “3. And then install it" > Pharo3DarkTheme installFullTheme. > > WARNING 1: You need to do a merge (notice the script) > WARNING 2: Yes, this is a HACK (also: an ugly hack). See below for details. > WARNING 3: This changes something in the Pharo3Theme too... so you can go > back after installing, but not completely :) > > Considerations > -- > > It can look like an easy task, to make a theme over a non native GUI like > Pharo, but let me tell you: It is not. There are a lot of glitches and errors > of design you have to overcome to get a working version of a theme. This is a > pitty because we claim that our system is clean (or should be clean) and easy > to understand. > > But all the Morphic implementation is a hack over a hack, with preconcepts > and hardcodes everywhere, up to a point that to make the smallest change is > an incredibly annoying task. > > Then... I added ""yet another hack"" to this infinite list. I made it because > we need something like this, even if not a good solution. And I also made it > to start a debate into our community. I truly believe that Morphic was a > great idea, but I also believe that current implementation is doomed. I would > like to discuss a new implementation, with a good design (for example I > believe it should be a clear separation between a morph and it's skin, making > easy the actual-hard task of changing a colorset). > I also believe there will be a clear separation between what is a Morph (a > graphical unit) and a Widget (who at the time should use morphs, but that's > another story). > Etc., etc., etc. > > So, will we start the longtime postponed effort of effectively replace > current Morphic? > > In the mean time, enjoy the theme. Is so cool that I'm considering making it > my default theme :P > > Esteban -- Nicolas Petton http://nicolas-petton.fr
