Re: [Pharo-users] [Pharo-dev] [Pharo3] New Sources file starting 30841/30842
Ben, Just a quick reality check: Tonight I downloaded Pharo 3.0 from pharo-project.org and unzipped the files on a Windows 7 Starter netbook. Everything went fine: PharoV30.sources appeared instead of the old V20 version. Not that I expected otherwise, but I was curious and it never hurts to add another set of eyes. Perhaps this thread is moot now that 30845 is (momentarily) the latest build? Tyler -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Pharo3-New-Sources-file-starting-30841-30842-tp4756979p4757161.html Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
Re: [Pharo-users] [Pharo-dev] [Pharo3] New Sources file starting 30841/30842
Tyler Sperry wrote: Ben, Just a quick reality check: Tonight I downloaded Pharo 3.0 from pharo-project.org and unzipped the files on a Windows 7 Starter netbook. Everything went fine: PharoV30.sources appeared instead of the old V20 version. Not that I expected otherwise, but I was curious and it never hurts to add another set of eyes. Extra eyes are always useful. Thanks Tyler. Perhaps this thread is moot now that 30845 is (momentarily) the latest build? I'll just wait for Robert to sign off this works for him when unzipped to an empty folder. http://files.pharo.org/platform/Pharo3.0-win.zip
Re: [Pharo-users] [Pharo-dev] [Pharo3] New Sources file starting 30841/30842
On 30 Apr 2014, at 00:36, Robert Shiplett grshipl...@gmail.com wrote: Please understand that we cannot solve local problems. Duh. Like I have never stripped or built a Smalltalk image over my decades as a corp contracting Smalltalker ( so not Pharo, 'natch ) Marcus : the problem occurred ; I don't see it explained. So Marcus, if you are OK, I won't look further. I have a lot on my plate otherwise today already ... the problem is that I do not know a) what happens b) how to reproduce c) others tested on windows and it works. Marcus
Re: [Pharo-users] [Pharo-dev] [Pharo3] New Sources file starting 30841/30842
I have to add a line to my pharo.ini to use sources named '30' ? Pharo comes up with latest.zip + sources 30 but complains not able to find sources '20' On 29 April 2014 10:11, Sven Van Caekenberghe s...@stfx.eu wrote: On 29 Apr 2014, at 15:05, Norbert Hartl norb...@hartl.name wrote: Am 29.04.2014 um 14:19 schrieb Sven Van Caekenberghe s...@stfx.eu: Tested on Mac OS X: $ mkdir pharo3 $ cd pharo3/ $ curl get.pharo.org/vm | bash $ curl get.pharo.org/30 | bash $ ./pharo-ui Pharo.image Just a side note. You know there is a get.pharo.org/30+vm ? Yes. Of course I know ;-) I was explicitly going step by step since the source were new. Norbert Loaded some configurations, ran some tests, recompiled all. All OK. Super ! On 29 Apr 2014, at 12:53, Marcus Denker marcus.den...@inria.fr wrote: Hi, We have a sources file for Pharo3! http://files.pharo.org/sources/PharoV30.sources.zip http://files.pharo.org/sources/PharoV30.sources The image that goes with it is 30 842 or newer. zipped image is now 5MB smaller due to the empty changes. http://files.pharo.org/image/30/ this now needs some careful testing… the build is green https://ci.inria.fr/pharo/ Marcus
Re: [Pharo-users] [Pharo-dev] [Pharo3] New Sources file starting 30841/30842
looked through 2 PDF's for pharo.ini and sources but did not find this mentioned ... it is probably staring right at me, since the image DID open... On 29 April 2014 10:22, Robert Shiplett grshipl...@gmail.com wrote: I have to add a line to my pharo.ini to use sources named '30' ? Pharo comes up with latest.zip + sources 30 but complains not able to find sources '20' On 29 April 2014 10:11, Sven Van Caekenberghe s...@stfx.eu wrote: On 29 Apr 2014, at 15:05, Norbert Hartl norb...@hartl.name wrote: Am 29.04.2014 um 14:19 schrieb Sven Van Caekenberghe s...@stfx.eu: Tested on Mac OS X: $ mkdir pharo3 $ cd pharo3/ $ curl get.pharo.org/vm | bash $ curl get.pharo.org/30 | bash $ ./pharo-ui Pharo.image Just a side note. You know there is a get.pharo.org/30+vm ? Yes. Of course I know ;-) I was explicitly going step by step since the source were new. Norbert Loaded some configurations, ran some tests, recompiled all. All OK. Super ! On 29 Apr 2014, at 12:53, Marcus Denker marcus.den...@inria.fr wrote: Hi, We have a sources file for Pharo3! http://files.pharo.org/sources/PharoV30.sources.zip http://files.pharo.org/sources/PharoV30.sources The image that goes with it is 30 842 or newer. zipped image is now 5MB smaller due to the empty changes. http://files.pharo.org/image/30/ this now needs some careful testing… the build is green https://ci.inria.fr/pharo/ Marcus
Re: [Pharo-users] [Pharo-dev] [Pharo3] New Sources file starting 30841/30842
On 29 Apr 2014, at 15:32, Robert Shiplett grshipl...@gmail.com wrote: looked through 2 PDF's for pharo.ini and sources but did not find this mentioned ... it is probably staring right at me, since the image DID open... I never use windows. But I think it would be strange if the sources file would be referenced there. Makes no sense to me (but as I said, never used windows since win 3.11) Marcus On 29 April 2014 10:22, Robert Shiplett grshipl...@gmail.com wrote: I have to add a line to my pharo.ini to use sources named '30' ? Pharo comes up with latest.zip + sources 30 but complains not able to find sources '20' On 29 April 2014 10:11, Sven Van Caekenberghe s...@stfx.eu wrote: On 29 Apr 2014, at 15:05, Norbert Hartl norb...@hartl.name wrote: Am 29.04.2014 um 14:19 schrieb Sven Van Caekenberghe s...@stfx.eu: Tested on Mac OS X: $ mkdir pharo3 $ cd pharo3/ $ curl get.pharo.org/vm | bash $ curl get.pharo.org/30 | bash $ ./pharo-ui Pharo.image Just a side note. You know there is a get.pharo.org/30+vm ? Yes. Of course I know ;-) I was explicitly going step by step since the source were new. Norbert Loaded some configurations, ran some tests, recompiled all. All OK. Super ! On 29 Apr 2014, at 12:53, Marcus Denker marcus.den...@inria.fr wrote: Hi, We have a sources file for Pharo3! http://files.pharo.org/sources/PharoV30.sources.zip http://files.pharo.org/sources/PharoV30.sources The image that goes with it is 30 842 or newer. zipped image is now 5MB smaller due to the empty changes. http://files.pharo.org/image/30/ this now needs some careful testing… the build is green https://ci.inria.fr/pharo/ Marcus
Re: [Pharo-users] [Pharo-dev] [Pharo3] New Sources file starting 30841/30842
Maybe it is better to wait for the actual release ? On 29 Apr 2014, at 15:32, Robert Shiplett grshipl...@gmail.com wrote: looked through 2 PDF's for pharo.ini and sources but did not find this mentioned ... it is probably staring right at me, since the image DID open... On 29 April 2014 10:22, Robert Shiplett grshipl...@gmail.com wrote: I have to add a line to my pharo.ini to use sources named '30' ? Pharo comes up with latest.zip + sources 30 but complains not able to find sources '20' On 29 April 2014 10:11, Sven Van Caekenberghe s...@stfx.eu wrote: On 29 Apr 2014, at 15:05, Norbert Hartl norb...@hartl.name wrote: Am 29.04.2014 um 14:19 schrieb Sven Van Caekenberghe s...@stfx.eu: Tested on Mac OS X: $ mkdir pharo3 $ cd pharo3/ $ curl get.pharo.org/vm | bash $ curl get.pharo.org/30 | bash $ ./pharo-ui Pharo.image Just a side note. You know there is a get.pharo.org/30+vm ? Yes. Of course I know ;-) I was explicitly going step by step since the source were new. Norbert Loaded some configurations, ran some tests, recompiled all. All OK. Super ! On 29 Apr 2014, at 12:53, Marcus Denker marcus.den...@inria.fr wrote: Hi, We have a sources file for Pharo3! http://files.pharo.org/sources/PharoV30.sources.zip http://files.pharo.org/sources/PharoV30.sources The image that goes with it is 30 842 or newer. zipped image is now 5MB smaller due to the empty changes. http://files.pharo.org/image/30/ this now needs some careful testing… the build is green https://ci.inria.fr/pharo/ Marcus
Re: [Pharo-users] [Pharo-dev] [Pharo3] New Sources file starting 30841/30842
On 29 Apr 2014, at 15:34, Marcus Denker marcus.den...@inria.fr wrote: On 29 Apr 2014, at 15:32, Robert Shiplett grshipl...@gmail.com wrote: looked through 2 PDF's for pharo.ini and sources but did not find this mentioned ... it is probably staring right at me, since the image DID open... I never use windows. But I think it would be strange if the sources file would be referenced there. Makes no sense to me (but as I said, never used windows since win 3.11) One thing I found is that the full zip releases (e.g. Pharo3.0-win.zip) do just have the V2 sources… fixing that now. Marcus
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On 29 Apr 2014, at 16:02, Robert Shiplett grshipl...@gmail.com wrote: If the image is sensitive to the name of the sources file unless overridden in the .ini then I think we should at least document now. I have no idea how the ini file comes into play here… there is NO ENTRY in the ini file about sources in the download of Pharo. I am using my last Latest install which was working fine ... I am PRETTY sure someone once mentioned this about pharo.ini options Maybe if I look in Squeak pages it will turn up there ... THIS IS my idiosyncratic USER testing ;-) On 29 April 2014 10:35, Sven Van Caekenberghe s...@stfx.eu wrote: Maybe it is better to wait for the actual release ? On 29 Apr 2014, at 15:32, Robert Shiplett grshipl...@gmail.com wrote: looked through 2 PDF's for pharo.ini and sources but did not find this mentioned ... it is probably staring right at me, since the image DID open... On 29 April 2014 10:22, Robert Shiplett grshipl...@gmail.com wrote: I have to add a line to my pharo.ini to use sources named '30' ? Pharo comes up with latest.zip + sources 30 but complains not able to find sources '20' On 29 April 2014 10:11, Sven Van Caekenberghe s...@stfx.eu wrote: On 29 Apr 2014, at 15:05, Norbert Hartl norb...@hartl.name wrote: Am 29.04.2014 um 14:19 schrieb Sven Van Caekenberghe s...@stfx.eu: Tested on Mac OS X: $ mkdir pharo3 $ cd pharo3/ $ curl get.pharo.org/vm | bash $ curl get.pharo.org/30 | bash $ ./pharo-ui Pharo.image Just a side note. You know there is a get.pharo.org/30+vm ? Yes. Of course I know ;-) I was explicitly going step by step since the source were new. Norbert Loaded some configurations, ran some tests, recompiled all. All OK. Super ! On 29 Apr 2014, at 12:53, Marcus Denker marcus.den...@inria.fr wrote: Hi, We have a sources file for Pharo3! http://files.pharo.org/sources/PharoV30.sources.zip http://files.pharo.org/sources/PharoV30.sources The image that goes with it is 30 842 or newer. zipped image is now 5MB smaller due to the empty changes. http://files.pharo.org/image/30/ this now needs some careful testing… the build is green https://ci.inria.fr/pharo/ Marcus
Re: [Pharo-users] [Pharo-dev] [Pharo3] New Sources file starting 30841/30842
Then he should remove it ;-) On 29 Apr 2014, at 16:05, Marcus Denker marcus.den...@inria.fr wrote: On 29 Apr 2014, at 16:02, Robert Shiplett grshipl...@gmail.com wrote: If the image is sensitive to the name of the sources file unless overridden in the .ini then I think we should at least document now. I have no idea how the ini file comes into play here… there is NO ENTRY in the ini file about sources in the download of Pharo. I am using my last Latest install which was working fine ... I am PRETTY sure someone once mentioned this about pharo.ini options Maybe if I look in Squeak pages it will turn up there ... THIS IS my idiosyncratic USER testing ;-) On 29 April 2014 10:35, Sven Van Caekenberghe s...@stfx.eu wrote: Maybe it is better to wait for the actual release ? On 29 Apr 2014, at 15:32, Robert Shiplett grshipl...@gmail.com wrote: looked through 2 PDF's for pharo.ini and sources but did not find this mentioned ... it is probably staring right at me, since the image DID open... On 29 April 2014 10:22, Robert Shiplett grshipl...@gmail.com wrote: I have to add a line to my pharo.ini to use sources named '30' ? Pharo comes up with latest.zip + sources 30 but complains not able to find sources '20' On 29 April 2014 10:11, Sven Van Caekenberghe s...@stfx.eu wrote: On 29 Apr 2014, at 15:05, Norbert Hartl norb...@hartl.name wrote: Am 29.04.2014 um 14:19 schrieb Sven Van Caekenberghe s...@stfx.eu: Tested on Mac OS X: $ mkdir pharo3 $ cd pharo3/ $ curl get.pharo.org/vm | bash $ curl get.pharo.org/30 | bash $ ./pharo-ui Pharo.image Just a side note. You know there is a get.pharo.org/30+vm ? Yes. Of course I know ;-) I was explicitly going step by step since the source were new. Norbert Loaded some configurations, ran some tests, recompiled all. All OK. Super ! On 29 Apr 2014, at 12:53, Marcus Denker marcus.den...@inria.fr wrote: Hi, We have a sources file for Pharo3! http://files.pharo.org/sources/PharoV30.sources.zip http://files.pharo.org/sources/PharoV30.sources The image that goes with it is 30 842 or newer. zipped image is now 5MB smaller due to the empty changes. http://files.pharo.org/image/30/ this now needs some careful testing… the build is green https://ci.inria.fr/pharo/ Marcus
Re: [Pharo-users] [Pharo-dev] [Pharo3] New Sources file starting 30841/30842
On 29 Apr 2014, at 15:51, Marcus Denker marcus.den...@inria.fr wrote: On 29 Apr 2014, at 15:34, Marcus Denker marcus.den...@inria.fr wrote: On 29 Apr 2014, at 15:32, Robert Shiplett grshipl...@gmail.com wrote: looked through 2 PDF's for pharo.ini and sources but did not find this mentioned ... it is probably staring right at me, since the image DID open... I never use windows. But I think it would be strange if the sources file would be referenced there. Makes no sense to me (but as I said, never used windows since win 3.11) One thing I found is that the full zip releases (e.g. Pharo3.0-win.zip) do just have the V2 sources… fixing that now. This is fixed now… Marcus
Re: [Pharo-users] [Pharo-dev] [Pharo3] New Sources file starting 30841/30842
On 29 Apr 2014, at 16:39, Marcus Denker marcus.den...@inria.fr wrote: On 29 Apr 2014, at 15:51, Marcus Denker marcus.den...@inria.fr wrote: On 29 Apr 2014, at 15:34, Marcus Denker marcus.den...@inria.fr wrote: On 29 Apr 2014, at 15:32, Robert Shiplett grshipl...@gmail.com wrote: looked through 2 PDF's for pharo.ini and sources but did not find this mentioned ... it is probably staring right at me, since the image DID open... I never use windows. But I think it would be strange if the sources file would be referenced there. Makes no sense to me (but as I said, never used windows since win 3.11) One thing I found is that the full zip releases (e.g. Pharo3.0-win.zip) do just have the V2 sources… fixing that now. This is fixed now… Marcus I did a quick test on Windows 8.1 downloading http://files.pharo.org/platform/Pharo3.0-win.zip and it works perfectly ! Super. We're very close now.
Re: [Pharo-users] [Pharo-dev] [Pharo3] New Sources file starting 30841/30842
the Pharo.ini appears in Win 7 with configuration settings as description, but PBE and Deep pdf's on this machine did not turn up a mention of sources file in FIND on configuration ; I loaded these PDF only a few days back ... so off to search pharo on stackoverflow On 29 April 2014 10:32, Robert Shiplett grshipl...@gmail.com wrote: looked through 2 PDF's for pharo.ini and sources but did not find this mentioned ... it is probably staring right at me, since the image DID open... On 29 April 2014 10:22, Robert Shiplett grshipl...@gmail.com wrote: I have to add a line to my pharo.ini to use sources named '30' ? Pharo comes up with latest.zip + sources 30 but complains not able to find sources '20' On 29 April 2014 10:11, Sven Van Caekenberghe s...@stfx.eu wrote: On 29 Apr 2014, at 15:05, Norbert Hartl norb...@hartl.name wrote: Am 29.04.2014 um 14:19 schrieb Sven Van Caekenberghe s...@stfx.eu: Tested on Mac OS X: $ mkdir pharo3 $ cd pharo3/ $ curl get.pharo.org/vm | bash $ curl get.pharo.org/30 | bash $ ./pharo-ui Pharo.image Just a side note. You know there is a get.pharo.org/30+vm ? Yes. Of course I know ;-) I was explicitly going step by step since the source were new. Norbert Loaded some configurations, ran some tests, recompiled all. All OK. Super ! On 29 Apr 2014, at 12:53, Marcus Denker marcus.den...@inria.fr wrote: Hi, We have a sources file for Pharo3! http://files.pharo.org/sources/PharoV30.sources.zip http://files.pharo.org/sources/PharoV30.sources The image that goes with it is 30 842 or newer. zipped image is now 5MB smaller due to the empty changes. http://files.pharo.org/image/30/ this now needs some careful testing… the build is green https://ci.inria.fr/pharo/ Marcus
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so my problem on Windows 7 is ? And no Sven, I did NOT touch the ini file. Just duplicated a working LATEST pharo dir and put in this LATEST zip and then the SOURCES So my error would be ? On 29 April 2014 11:49, Sven Van Caekenberghe s...@stfx.eu wrote: On 29 Apr 2014, at 16:39, Marcus Denker marcus.den...@inria.fr wrote: On 29 Apr 2014, at 15:51, Marcus Denker marcus.den...@inria.fr wrote: On 29 Apr 2014, at 15:34, Marcus Denker marcus.den...@inria.fr wrote: On 29 Apr 2014, at 15:32, Robert Shiplett grshipl...@gmail.com wrote: looked through 2 PDF's for pharo.ini and sources but did not find this mentioned ... it is probably staring right at me, since the image DID open... I never use windows. But I think it would be strange if the sources file would be referenced there. Makes no sense to me (but as I said, never used windows since win 3.11) One thing I found is that the full zip releases (e.g. Pharo3.0-win.zip) do just have the V2 sources… fixing that now. This is fixed now… Marcus I did a quick test on Windows 8.1 downloading http://files.pharo.org/platform/Pharo3.0-win.zip and it works perfectly ! Super. We're very close now.
Re: [Pharo-users] [Pharo-dev] [Pharo3] New Sources file starting 30841/30842
Please understand that we cannot solve local problems. Duh. Like I have never stripped or built a Smalltalk image over my decades as a corp contracting Smalltalker ( so not Pharo, 'natch ) Marcus : the problem occurred ; I don't see it explained. So Marcus, if you are OK, I won't look further. I have a lot on my plate otherwise today already ...
