Re: [Pharo-users] Error when trying to initiate Pharo in Ubuntu 64 bits

2014-04-23 Thread Stephan Eggermont
Whoever compiled it deserves commendation. Nevertheless, in my opinion it´s an 
issue to keep in mind for the future; distributions are likely to upgrade 
their libc at different points in time, and a good lowest common denominator 
should be chosen with care, otherwise it´s not really common at all.

+1

Well known issue. Heard about it first some 7 years ago, when a friend of mine, 
a FreePascal maintainer, commented: 
Ubuntu is Debian unstable, it is not supposed to work”  

Stephan


Re: [Pharo-users] Error when trying to initiate Pharo in Ubuntu 64 bits

2014-04-23 Thread Norbert Hartl

Am 23.04.2014 um 11:36 schrieb Stephan Eggermont step...@stack.nl:

 Whoever compiled it deserves commendation. Nevertheless, in my opinion it´s 
 an issue to keep in mind for the future; distributions are likely to upgrade 
 their libc at different points in time, and a good lowest common 
 denominator should be chosen with care, otherwise it´s not really common 
 at all.
 
 +1
 
 Well known issue. Heard about it first some 7 years ago, when a friend of 
 mine, a FreePascal maintainer, commented: 
 Ubuntu is Debian unstable, it is not supposed to work”  

Always depends on the view you take. I work with ubuntu for nearly ten years 
professionally and I don’t have complaints. With debian a lot of installations 
wouldn’t have take place in my case. And using debian would have forced me to 
compile a lot of stuff because debian stuff is notoriously outdated. So if you 
need new (and yes unstable stuff) you might be better off with ubuntu. Anyway 
to relationship you draw about debian vs. ubuntu reminds of squeak vs. pharo :)

Norbert




Re: [Pharo-users] Error when trying to initiate Pharo in Ubuntu 64 bits

2014-04-22 Thread Esteban Lorenzano
yes, it changed the glibc. 
you can try using this version of the vm, it should work: 

http://files.pharo.org/vm/pharo/linux/pharovm-u804.tar.gz

Esteban

On 22 Apr 2014, at 01:15, Sergi Reyner sergi.rey...@gmail.com wrote:

 2014-04-21 23:12 GMT+01:00 GABRIEL DEFAGOT gaby_def...@hotmail.com:
 /pharo3.0/bin/pharo: /lib32/libc.so.6: version `GLIBC_2.15' not found 
 (required by /pharo3.0/bin/pharo)
 
 What's missing?
 
 A newer version of glibc, probably. Ubuntu 12.04 has glibc-2.15.
 
 Cheers,
 Sergi



Re: [Pharo-users] Error when trying to initiate Pharo in Ubuntu 64 bits

2014-04-22 Thread Damien Cassou
Hi Gabriel,

On Tue, Apr 22, 2014 at 1:14 AM, Stephan Eggermont step...@stack.nl wrote:
 Version 11.10 of Ubuntu is no longer supported. That ended nearly a year ago. 
 That means that there is no heartbleed openssl update, you might need to 
 compile a safe version from source. And that also means that there is no 
 recent precompiled pharo for it. If you need to use a machine for a longer 
 time, you might want to either use a LTS version, or upgrade regularly.


Stephan is right. You *must* upgrade your system. Look at this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ubuntu_%28operating_system%29#Releases.
Old version means your system has several security issues that won't
get fixed automatically.

-- 
Damien Cassou
http://damiencassou.seasidehosting.st

Success is the ability to go from one failure to another without
losing enthusiasm.
Winston Churchill



Re: [Pharo-users] Error when trying to initiate Pharo in Ubuntu 64 bits

2014-04-22 Thread Esteban Lorenzano
http://files.pharo.org/vm/pharo/linux/pharovm-u804.tar.gz

On 22 Apr 2014, at 15:26, Sergi Reyner sergi.rey...@gmail.com wrote:

 2014-04-22 13:11 GMT+01:00 Damien Cassou damien.cas...@gmail.com:
 Hi Gabriel,
 
 On Tue, Apr 22, 2014 at 1:14 AM, Stephan Eggermont step...@stack.nl wrote:
  Version 11.10 of Ubuntu is no longer supported. That ended nearly a year 
  ago. That means that there is no heartbleed openssl update, you might need 
  to compile a safe version from source. And that also means that there is no 
  recent precompiled pharo for it. If you need to use a machine for a longer 
  time, you might want to either use a LTS version, or upgrade regularly.
 
 
 Stephan is right. You *must* upgrade your system.
 
 Right or not, it´s besides the point. Replace Ubuntu 11.10 with Debian 7. 
 Updated system, no heartbleed, and still no Pharo because they are shipping 
 2.13.
 



Re: [Pharo-users] Error when trying to initiate Pharo in Ubuntu 64 bits

2014-04-22 Thread Sergi Reyner
2014-04-22 15:26 GMT+01:00 Esteban Lorenzano esteba...@gmail.com:

 http://files.pharo.org/vm/pharo/linux/pharovm-u804.tar.gz


Whoever compiled it deserves commendation. Nevertheless, in my opinion it´s
an issue to keep in mind for the future; distributions are likely to
upgrade their libc at different points in time, and a good lowest common
denominator should be chosen with care, otherwise it´s not really common
at all.

PS: in case it´s not apparent I´m not an Ubuntu fan :)

Cheers,
Sergi


Re: [Pharo-users] Error when trying to initiate Pharo in Ubuntu 64 bits

2014-04-22 Thread GABRIEL DEFAGOT

Okay! Thank you all! :-)
Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2014 15:47:44 +0100
From: sergi.rey...@gmail.com
To: pharo-users@lists.pharo.org
Subject: Re: [Pharo-users] Error when trying to initiate Pharo in Ubuntu 64 
bits

2014-04-22 15:26 GMT+01:00 Esteban Lorenzano esteba...@gmail.com:

http://files.pharo.org/vm/pharo/linux/pharovm-u804.tar.gz

Whoever compiled it deserves commendation. Nevertheless, in my opinion it´s an 
issue to keep in mind for the future; distributions are likely to upgrade their 
libc at different points in time, and a good lowest common denominator should 
be chosen with care, otherwise it´s not really common at all.

PS: in case it´s not apparent I´m not an Ubuntu fan :)
Cheers,Sergi  

Re: [Pharo-users] Error when trying to initiate Pharo in Ubuntu 64 bits

2014-04-21 Thread Stephan Eggermont
Hi Gabriel,

Version 11.10 of Ubuntu is no longer supported. That ended nearly a year ago. 
That means that there is no heartbleed openssl update, you might need to 
compile a safe version from source. And that also means that there is no recent 
precompiled pharo for it. If you need to use a machine for a longer time, you 
might want to either use a LTS version, or upgrade regularly.

Stephan


Re: [Pharo-users] Error when trying to initiate Pharo in Ubuntu 64 bits

2014-04-21 Thread Sergi Reyner
2014-04-21 23:12 GMT+01:00 GABRIEL DEFAGOT gaby_def...@hotmail.com:

 /pharo3.0/bin/pharo: /lib32/libc.so.6: version `GLIBC_2.15' not found
 (required by /pharo3.0/bin/pharo)

 What's missing?


A newer version of glibc, probably. Ubuntu 12.04 has glibc-2.15.

Cheers,
Sergi