Re: [Phono-L] polishing Bakelite

2009-12-30 Thread Ron L'Herault
I've read a bit about this on a radio site.  Apparently the shiny surface of
Bakelite is not very thick.  Use a fine grain polish, something not too
abrasive. I think a final coat of wax will help as well.  

Ron L

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Dear Phonolisters : 



Maybe this isn't the place to ask but on the other hand. 



Does anyone know a good way to revive and polish Bakelite? 



Thanks, 

Bill Z 
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Re: [Phono-L] 1904 Edison Triumph with Automatic Reproducer

2009-12-30 Thread clockworkhome
I have alerted this seller to many of his inaccurate conglomerations of 
Edison parts.  Never has he responded or put the corrections into the listing.
 
The Triumph machines immediately adopted the Model C reproducer when it 
first came out in 1902.  Only a small number of machines had the reproducer 
clips and by serial number 31000 the carriage arm had the alignment pin and the 
single "Speaker Clamp Screw" part #2531.
 
Regards to all,
 
Al
 
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Re: [Phono-L] 1904 Edison Triumph with Automatic Reproducer

2009-12-30 Thread Rich
Anytime I see (RARE), Rare, or L@@K in an eBay title or description I 
start to wonder what is really wrong with it.


Steven Medved wrote:

Hello Terry,

I appreciate to no end the information you provided below, it helps me so much.  

Frow's book says the Triumph A appeared in the spring of 1901.  Do you have any idea the months when 29,000 to 30,000 would have been made?  


The last automatic has a hinge block and limit loop, 211558 is the highest 
serial number I have seen and for many years I have been trying to get an 
estimate of the month when the automatic last appeared so I can get an idea of 
the month in 1901 the automatic was replaced by the early B with the arm.  The 
early B did not have a notch for the centering pin until around serial number 
17,000 so I assume that 17,000 was Feb 1902.

I have seen standards, homes, and triumphs with the carriage with the clips with the early B with no notch.  


Thanks,

Steve



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Re: [Phono-L] polishing Bakelite

2009-12-30 Thread zuccawt


Dear John:  Thanks for the link.  I should have found it myself.  Will try to 
tell the difference between the two materials and look for the stuff he 
recommends. 



BillZ 
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Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2009 9:43:20 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern 
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] polishing Bakelite 


Google to the rescue! "Polishing Bakelite" yielded this at the top of the page 
(and there are others): 

http://www.radiolaguy.com/clean-shine.htm 


> Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2009 02:35:51 + 
> From: zucc...@comcast.net 
> To: phono-l@oldcrank.org 
> Subject: [Phono-L] polishing Bakelite 
> 
> 
> 
> Dear Phonolisters : 
> 
> 
> 
> Maybe this isn't the place to ask but on the other hand. 
> 
> 
> 
> Does anyone know a good way to revive and polish Bakelite? 
> 
> 
> 
> Thanks, 
> 
> Bill Z 
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Re: [Phono-L] polishing Bakelite

2009-12-30 Thread John Maeder

Google to the rescue! "Polishing Bakelite" yielded this at the top of the page 
(and there are others):

http://www.radiolaguy.com/clean-shine.htm


> Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2009 02:35:51 +
> From: zucc...@comcast.net
> To: phono-l@oldcrank.org
> Subject: [Phono-L] polishing Bakelite
> 
> 
> 
> Dear Phonolisters : 
> 
> 
> 
> Maybe this isn't the place to ask but on the other hand. 
> 
> 
> 
> Does anyone know a good way to revive and polish Bakelite? 
> 
> 
> 
> Thanks, 
> 
> Bill Z 
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[Phono-L] polishing Bakelite

2009-12-30 Thread zuccawt


Dear Phonolisters : 



Maybe this isn't the place to ask but on the other hand. 



Does anyone know a good way to revive and polish Bakelite? 



Thanks, 

Bill Z 
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Re: [Phono-L] 1904 Edison Triumph with Automatic Reproducer

2009-12-30 Thread Steven Medved

Hello Terry,

I appreciate to no end the information you provided below, it helps me so much. 
 

Frow's book says the Triumph A appeared in the spring of 1901.  Do you have any 
idea the months when 29,000 to 30,000 would have been made?  

The last automatic has a hinge block and limit loop, 211558 is the highest 
serial number I have seen and for many years I have been trying to get an 
estimate of the month when the automatic last appeared so I can get an idea of 
the month in 1901 the automatic was replaced by the early B with the arm.  The 
early B did not have a notch for the centering pin until around serial number 
17,000 so I assume that 17,000 was Feb 1902.

I have seen standards, homes, and triumphs with the carriage with the clips 
with the early B with no notch.  

Thanks,

Steve

> The machine is TOO late for an Automatic.  Only the first month or so of 
> production had them and serial numbers run from about 29,000 to 30,000.  I've 
> only seen a handful of such machines.  The early cases had sharper corners 
> and 
> thinner walls.  This example with SN 46,315 appears to be in the correct late 
> case but has had an earlier carriage added at some point.
> 
> Terry P. Baer
> St. Louis
> Email:  t...@edisontriumph.com
> 
> 
> 
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> Behalf Of Steven Medved
> Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2009 4:37 PM
> To: Phono-l; phonolist
> Subject: [Phono-L] 1904 Edison triumph A with automatic reproducer
> 
> 
> http://cgi.ebay.com/Edison-Triumph-Model-A-Cylinder-Machine-
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Re: [Phono-L] 1904 Edison Triumph with Automatic Reproducer

2009-12-30 Thread john9ten
That seller is almost always dishonest or at least misleading.
John Robles
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The machine is TOO late for an Automatic.  Only the first month or so of 
production had them and serial numbers run from about 29,000 to 30,000.  I've 
only seen a handful of such machines.  The early cases had sharper corners and 
thinner walls.  This example with SN 46,315 appears to be in the correct late 
case but has had an earlier carriage added at some point.

Terry P. Baer
St. Louis
Email:  t...@edisontriumph.com



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Subject: [Phono-L] 1904 Edison triumph A with automatic reproducer


http://cgi.ebay.com/Edison-Triumph-Model-A-Cylinder-Machine-
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Re: [Phono-L] 1904 Edison Triumph with Automatic Reproducer

2009-12-30 Thread t
The machine is TOO late for an Automatic.  Only the first month or so of 
production had them and serial numbers run from about 29,000 to 30,000.  I've 
only seen a handful of such machines.  The early cases had sharper corners and 
thinner walls.  This example with SN 46,315 appears to be in the correct late 
case but has had an earlier carriage added at some point.

Terry P. Baer
St. Louis
Email:  t...@edisontriumph.com



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To: Phono-l; phonolist
Subject: [Phono-L] 1904 Edison triumph A with automatic reproducer


http://cgi.ebay.com/Edison-Triumph-Model-A-Cylinder-Machine-
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Re: [Phono-L] 1904 Edison triumph A with automatic reproducer

2009-12-30 Thread Zonophone2006
HOPE HE GETS IT
TOO BAD ITS NOT A MOBLEY OR FLETCHER REPRODUCER
M
ZONO
 
 
In a message dated 12/30/2009 5:37:18 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
steve_nor...@msn.com writes:


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[Phono-L] 1904 Edison triumph A with automatic reproducer

2009-12-30 Thread Steven Medved

http://cgi.ebay.com/Edison-Triumph-Model-A-Cylinder-Machine-RARE_W0QQitemZ170426053885

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