Re: [Phono-L] polishing Bakelite
I've read a bit about this on a radio site. Apparently the shiny surface of Bakelite is not very thick. Use a fine grain polish, something not too abrasive. I think a final coat of wax will help as well. Ron L -Original Message- From: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org] On Behalf Of zucc...@comcast.net Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2009 9:36 PM To: PhonoList Subject: [Phono-L] polishing Bakelite Dear Phonolisters : Maybe this isn't the place to ask but on the other hand. Does anyone know a good way to revive and polish Bakelite? Thanks, Bill Z ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
Re: [Phono-L] 1904 Edison Triumph with Automatic Reproducer
I have alerted this seller to many of his inaccurate conglomerations of Edison parts. Never has he responded or put the corrections into the listing. The Triumph machines immediately adopted the Model C reproducer when it first came out in 1902. Only a small number of machines had the reproducer clips and by serial number 31000 the carriage arm had the alignment pin and the single "Speaker Clamp Screw" part #2531. Regards to all, Al ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
Re: [Phono-L] 1904 Edison Triumph with Automatic Reproducer
Anytime I see (RARE), Rare, or L@@K in an eBay title or description I start to wonder what is really wrong with it. Steven Medved wrote: Hello Terry, I appreciate to no end the information you provided below, it helps me so much. Frow's book says the Triumph A appeared in the spring of 1901. Do you have any idea the months when 29,000 to 30,000 would have been made? The last automatic has a hinge block and limit loop, 211558 is the highest serial number I have seen and for many years I have been trying to get an estimate of the month when the automatic last appeared so I can get an idea of the month in 1901 the automatic was replaced by the early B with the arm. The early B did not have a notch for the centering pin until around serial number 17,000 so I assume that 17,000 was Feb 1902. I have seen standards, homes, and triumphs with the carriage with the clips with the early B with no notch. Thanks, Steve ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
Re: [Phono-L] polishing Bakelite
Dear John: Thanks for the link. I should have found it myself. Will try to tell the difference between the two materials and look for the stuff he recommends. BillZ - Original Message - From: "John Maeder" To: "Antique Phonograph List" Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2009 9:43:20 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [Phono-L] polishing Bakelite Google to the rescue! "Polishing Bakelite" yielded this at the top of the page (and there are others): http://www.radiolaguy.com/clean-shine.htm > Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2009 02:35:51 + > From: zucc...@comcast.net > To: phono-l@oldcrank.org > Subject: [Phono-L] polishing Bakelite > > > > Dear Phonolisters : > > > > Maybe this isn't the place to ask but on the other hand. > > > > Does anyone know a good way to revive and polish Bakelite? > > > > Thanks, > > Bill Z > ___ > Phono-L mailing list > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
Re: [Phono-L] polishing Bakelite
Google to the rescue! "Polishing Bakelite" yielded this at the top of the page (and there are others): http://www.radiolaguy.com/clean-shine.htm > Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2009 02:35:51 + > From: zucc...@comcast.net > To: phono-l@oldcrank.org > Subject: [Phono-L] polishing Bakelite > > > > Dear Phonolisters : > > > > Maybe this isn't the place to ask but on the other hand. > > > > Does anyone know a good way to revive and polish Bakelite? > > > > Thanks, > > Bill Z > ___ > Phono-L mailing list > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
[Phono-L] polishing Bakelite
Dear Phonolisters : Maybe this isn't the place to ask but on the other hand. Does anyone know a good way to revive and polish Bakelite? Thanks, Bill Z ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
Re: [Phono-L] 1904 Edison Triumph with Automatic Reproducer
Hello Terry, I appreciate to no end the information you provided below, it helps me so much. Frow's book says the Triumph A appeared in the spring of 1901. Do you have any idea the months when 29,000 to 30,000 would have been made? The last automatic has a hinge block and limit loop, 211558 is the highest serial number I have seen and for many years I have been trying to get an estimate of the month when the automatic last appeared so I can get an idea of the month in 1901 the automatic was replaced by the early B with the arm. The early B did not have a notch for the centering pin until around serial number 17,000 so I assume that 17,000 was Feb 1902. I have seen standards, homes, and triumphs with the carriage with the clips with the early B with no notch. Thanks, Steve > The machine is TOO late for an Automatic. Only the first month or so of > production had them and serial numbers run from about 29,000 to 30,000. I've > only seen a handful of such machines. The early cases had sharper corners > and > thinner walls. This example with SN 46,315 appears to be in the correct late > case but has had an earlier carriage added at some point. > > Terry P. Baer > St. Louis > Email: t...@edisontriumph.com > > > > -Original Message- > From: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org] On > Behalf Of Steven Medved > Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2009 4:37 PM > To: Phono-l; phonolist > Subject: [Phono-L] 1904 Edison triumph A with automatic reproducer > > > http://cgi.ebay.com/Edison-Triumph-Model-A-Cylinder-Machine- > RARE_W0QQitemZ170426053885 > ___ > Phono-L mailing list > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org > > > - > This message was sent using CAT2 Online Internet Services . > web-based email system . > http://www.cat2.com . > > > ___ > Phono-L mailing list > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
Re: [Phono-L] 1904 Edison Triumph with Automatic Reproducer
That seller is almost always dishonest or at least misleading. John Robles --Original Message-- From: t...@edisontriumph.com Sender: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org To: phono-l@oldcrank.org ReplyTo: Antique Phonograph List Subject: Re: [Phono-L] 1904 Edison Triumph with Automatic Reproducer Sent: Dec 30, 2009 5:26 PM The machine is TOO late for an Automatic. Only the first month or so of production had them and serial numbers run from about 29,000 to 30,000. I've only seen a handful of such machines. The early cases had sharper corners and thinner walls. This example with SN 46,315 appears to be in the correct late case but has had an earlier carriage added at some point. Terry P. Baer St. Louis Email: t...@edisontriumph.com -Original Message- From: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org] On Behalf Of Steven Medved Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2009 4:37 PM To: Phono-l; phonolist Subject: [Phono-L] 1904 Edison triumph A with automatic reproducer http://cgi.ebay.com/Edison-Triumph-Model-A-Cylinder-Machine- RARE_W0QQitemZ170426053885 ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org - This message was sent using CAT2 Online Internet Services . web-based email system . http://www.cat2.com . ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
Re: [Phono-L] 1904 Edison Triumph with Automatic Reproducer
The machine is TOO late for an Automatic. Only the first month or so of production had them and serial numbers run from about 29,000 to 30,000. I've only seen a handful of such machines. The early cases had sharper corners and thinner walls. This example with SN 46,315 appears to be in the correct late case but has had an earlier carriage added at some point. Terry P. Baer St. Louis Email: t...@edisontriumph.com -Original Message- From: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org] On Behalf Of Steven Medved Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2009 4:37 PM To: Phono-l; phonolist Subject: [Phono-L] 1904 Edison triumph A with automatic reproducer http://cgi.ebay.com/Edison-Triumph-Model-A-Cylinder-Machine- RARE_W0QQitemZ170426053885 ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org - This message was sent using CAT2 Online Internet Services . web-based email system . http://www.cat2.com . ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
Re: [Phono-L] 1904 Edison triumph A with automatic reproducer
HOPE HE GETS IT TOO BAD ITS NOT A MOBLEY OR FLETCHER REPRODUCER M ZONO In a message dated 12/30/2009 5:37:18 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, steve_nor...@msn.com writes: http://cgi.ebay.com/Edison-Triumph-Model-A-Cylinder-Machine-RARE_W0QQitemZ17 0426053885 ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
[Phono-L] 1904 Edison triumph A with automatic reproducer
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