Re: [Phono-L] eBay GEM - Is this real?
UH-OH, have I been taken? I was told that my Edison C-1 is one of six known. According to the known serial numbers mine is the latest making it the last (accounted for) Diamond Disc machine. I sincerely hope that is not the case. Bruce - Original Message - From: Mike Stitt smst...@gmail.com To: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org Sent: Saturday, April 09, 2011 10:16 PM Subject: Re: [Phono-L] eBay GEM - Is this real? My response as to how does he know it's factory was tongue in cheek. When I hear stuff like that or only 3 know to exist I always ask or think who told you that. I remember hearing only three of these phongraphs exist. I smiled and thought well I have one, that makes 4. I didn't say it tho' Mike Oldcranky ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
Re: [Phono-L] eBay GEM - Is this real?
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. If I collected Gems on a large scale, it would be unusual to have. One dead give away that the paint is not original to the date of manufacture is the lid. Notice the flathead nails on the edges to hold down the glue failure? Near the nails are gouges that were painted after the nailing and in other spots are chips of the same type not painted. It looks to my eye like it was done years ago but still old enough for the lid to have become unglued in a hot attic or damp basement...see mold on cylinder. Or not Bruce M. - Original Message - From: Jay Horenstein jay.horenst...@gmail.com To: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org Sent: Saturday, April 09, 2011 10:19 PM Subject: Re: [Phono-L] eBay GEM - Is this real? Factory painted or not, I think it looks nice. If I wanted a gem, I would buy it, if the price was right. ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
Re: [Phono-L] eBay GEM - Is this real?
Yes, you have been taken, you should sell your C-1 to me for $1200 dollars and consider yourself lucky as it does not have nearly the paint job of that GEM ;-) Bill On Apr 11, 2011, at 12:18 PM, Bruce Mercer wrote: UH-OH, have I been taken? I was told that my Edison C-1 is one of six known. According to the known serial numbers mine is the latest making it the last (accounted for) Diamond Disc machine. I sincerely hope that is not the case. Bruce - Original Message - From: Mike Stitt smst...@gmail.com To: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org Sent: Saturday, April 09, 2011 10:16 PM Subject: Re: [Phono-L] eBay GEM - Is this real? My response as to how does he know it's factory was tongue in cheek. When I hear stuff like that or only 3 know to exist I always ask or think who told you that. I remember hearing only three of these phongraphs exist. I smiled and thought well I have one, that makes 4. I didn't say it tho' Mike Oldcranky ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
[Phono-L] Diameter of Diamond Disc reproducer linkage
Can/would someone on the list please measure the diameter of the silk linkage on a Diamond Disc reproducer with a micrometer and tell me what the measurement is? Thanks! ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
Re: [Phono-L] Desperately Seeking Cylinder
have you considered sending it to the Cylinder Doctor?? - Original Message - From: john robles john9...@pacbell.net To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Sent: Monday, April 11, 2011 10:31:59 PM Subject: [Phono-L] Desperately Seeking Cylinder Hello all Sadly, I cracked one of my favorite cylinders tonight, and I am hoping someone can help me find a replacement. It is Edison 2 minute number 10185 The Market on Saturday Night sung by Ada Jones. Any help would be highly appreciated. Thanks John Robles ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
[Phono-L] Desperately Seeking Cylinder
Hello all Sadly, I cracked one of my favorite cylinders tonight, and I am hoping someone can help me find a replacement. It is Edison 2 minute number 10185 The Market on Saturday Night sung by Ada Jones. Any help would be highly appreciated. Thanks John Robles ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
Re: [Phono-L] 3 Known
Steve, I agree completely and hope for collectors interested in these machines that at least a few more will be found. The thing that supports the 'few' is that they were made for only a year (more like 10 months), were very expensive and a good estimate of orginal production numbered about 200 machines. Frow wasn't much help. It seems that somebody at the National Monument could be a scource of desperately needed information regarding that machine and the number mfg.. I bought the machine from Charley H. and in talking with him and at least one other rabid collector, those are the numbers that are known and a good guess as to the number built. Charley told me he had gotten the machine from the original owner in N.J., somebody that had worked for Edison. There were many old pictures, some autographed, all to do with Edison or the Company on the walls, when he got the machine. He thought it to be someone high up in the Company. As far as I'm concerned I hope 100 more turn up sooner than later. It wouldn't affect the value of mine in the least, not to me anyway. Spread the happiness. Very best, Bruce M. Memo to Bill Taney: Sorry Bill, too late. I had the case stripped, cut down those stubby feet and had the whole thing bleached almost white. Then I had gladiolas and other fauna and flora painted on...it REALLY stands out against that white. I've had people tell me they've never seen anything quite like it. ;-) - Original Message - From: Steven Medved steve_nor...@msn.com To: Phono-l phono-l@oldcrank.org Sent: Monday, April 11, 2011 1:06 PM Subject: Re: [Phono-L] 3 Known Hello Bruce and list, The amount of phonographs known depends largely on how well we as collectors are willing to communicate with each other and to the researcher. The Triumph G is a good example I believe there were about 6 of these known to exist and then a new one appeared on eBay in the Opera style case with the lid, bottom and columns missing, it was in poor shape. A mahogany one with its horn sold for $8777.00 on eBay years ago, I do not know if this was cataloged or not. Terry Baer has done research which is available on his website, but again he is dependent on collector input and what he sees. I do reproducer research and I am dependent on eBay and those generous collectors that share photos and serial numbers. There are two barriers to sharing, privacy and people not wanting to lowering the value. If you found a warehouse with 100 Victor VI in their packing crates and sold them all at once The 2 minute J in the Frow book, I spoke with the man that discovered it and it was the only one he knew of. I told him about the one I saw on eBay and since then a second one appeared so now I know of 3. I am still trying to find people with model O reproducers with the all brass nickel plated top, over the past 10 years I only found one with a serial number around 3500 but I lost the e-mail when my computer died. These days I get most of my research from eBay. So far I have 92 of the iron and brass O's in my list. At least 8,000 were made so around 1000 should have survived. This is actually the most commonly found O, but since it does not swell it is among the most desirable ones to have. In closing the amount known will give you an idea of the rarity, but as my old cranky friend has pointed out the amount known is a fraction of the ones that actually do exist. Perhaps one day we will learn more. Best regards, Steve UH-OH, have I been taken? I was told that my Edison C-1 is one of six known. According to the known serial numbers mine is the latest making it the last (accounted for) Diamond Disc machine. I sincerely hope that is not the case. Bruce ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
Re: [Phono-L] Desperately Seeking Cylinder
Those d#$n 2 minute wax cylinders... you could crack one by looking at it wrong or thinking about playing it. I love indestructibles... Curt Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2011 19:31:59 -0700 From: john9...@pacbell.net To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Subject: [Phono-L] Desperately Seeking Cylinder Hello all Sadly, I cracked one of my favorite cylinders tonight, and I am hoping someone can help me find a replacement. It is Edison 2 minute number 10185 The Market on Saturday Night sung by Ada Jones. Any help would be highly appreciated. Thanks John Robles ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
