Re: [Phono-L] Does anyone know how to make a Jones Motrola _safe_?
This discussion reminded me of a situation here, a few years back: The power company replaced the wires from my house to the pole, and a few months later, I happened to touch the metal pipe through which the wires ran to my meter in the cellar. ZAP! The pipe had never been attached to the meter box or my fuse/breaker box, both of which were grounded (after I grounded them - NOTHING was grounded when I moved in here!) ... Anyway, I called the company to have the thing repaired, as it was obvious that the live conductor was touching the pipe at the top. They sent Vern & Ernest, I swear. Even after I demonstrated the problem by lighting-up a 100W bulb between the pipe and a ground, one of the guys grabbed both pieces of metal & ZAPPED himself for proof! "Oh yeah, that's live." I guess he was accustomed to 120volts AC! - Original Message - From: "Barry Kasindorf" To: "Antique Phonograph List" Sent: Friday, February 17, 2012 1:43 PM Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Does anyone know how to make a Jones Motrola _safe_? Very true. The question was SAFETY. I hate having 3 wire plugs on antique electronics. You can easily put a polarized plug on a piece of zipcord and get the ends right and be safe as well. I like the idea of making something SAFE without changing the item at all. -Barry On 2/17/2012 12:25 PM, Bruce wrote: Barry, the shock hazard model during HiPot testing development assumes all external metallic surfaces on a product are always at the same potential. That is why we are only required to test against the product ground through an alligator clamp to the chassis or through the ground terminal of the 3 wire AC input. The shock hazard model we care about is a ground path through the body past the heart. You could be standing on a concrete floor barefoot or touching a cold water pipe with your other arm. I submit to you that I could connect any ungrounded electrical device through my isolation transformer, float it up to 1500VAC (the isolation voltage of my isolation transformer) and invite you to touch it and depending on your resistance to ground, you will definitely feel it. It will not be much current, and it may not kill you but it will wake you up faster than a few cups of coffee. ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
Re: [Phono-L] Does anyone know how to make a Jones Motrola _safe_?
That sounds like a brilliant guy. I was just in a course about electrical safety last week. The voltage that kills the most people is 120 VAC. Jim On Feb 23, 2012, at 4:44 AM, DanKj wrote: > This discussion reminded me of a situation here, a few years back: The > power company replaced the wires from my house to the pole, and a few months > later, I happened to touch the metal pipe through which the wires ran to my > meter in the cellar. ZAP! The pipe had never been attached to the meter > box or my fuse/breaker box, both of which were grounded (after I grounded > them - NOTHING was grounded when I moved in here!) ... Anyway, I called > the company to have the thing repaired, as it was obvious that the live > conductor was touching the pipe at the top. They sent Vern & Ernest, I > swear. Even after I demonstrated the problem by lighting-up a 100W bulb > between the pipe and a ground, one of the guys grabbed both pieces of metal & > ZAPPED himself for proof! "Oh yeah, that's live." I guess he was accustomed > to 120volts AC! > > > > - Original Message - From: "Barry Kasindorf" > > To: "Antique Phonograph List" > Sent: Friday, February 17, 2012 1:43 PM > Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Does anyone know how to make a Jones Motrola _safe_? > > >> Very true. The question was SAFETY. I hate having 3 wire plugs on antique >> electronics. You can easily put a polarized plug on a piece of zipcord and >> get the ends right and be safe as well. I like the idea of making something >> SAFE without changing the item at all. >> -Barry >> >> >> On 2/17/2012 12:25 PM, Bruce wrote: >>> Barry, the shock hazard model during HiPot testing development assumes all >>> external metallic surfaces on a product are always at the same potential. >>> That is why we are only required to test against the product ground through >>> an alligator clamp to the chassis or through the ground terminal of the 3 >>> wire AC input. The shock hazard model we care about is a ground path through >>> the body past the heart. You could be standing on a concrete floor barefoot >>> or touching a cold water pipe with your other arm. >>> >>> I submit to you that I could connect any ungrounded electrical device >>> through my isolation transformer, float it up to 1500VAC (the isolation >>> voltage of my isolation transformer) and invite you to touch it and >>> depending on your resistance to ground, you will definitely feel it. It will >>> not be much current, and it may not kill you but it will wake you up faster >>> than a few cups of coffee. > > ___ > Phono-L mailing list > http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
Re: [Phono-L] Does anyone know how to make a Jones Motrola _safe_?
I believe I mentioned that here previously, I suspect that it was ignored though. On 02/23/2012 03:56 AM, Jim Nichol wrote: That sounds like a brilliant guy. I was just in a course about electrical safety last week. The voltage that kills the most people is 120 VAC. Jim On Feb 23, 2012, at 4:44 AM, DanKj wrote: This discussion reminded me of a situation here, a few years back: The power company replaced the wires from my house to the pole, and a few months later, I happened to touch the metal pipe through which the wires ran to my meter in the cellar. ZAP! The pipe had never been attached to the meter box or my fuse/breaker box, both of which were grounded (after I grounded them - NOTHING was grounded when I moved in here!) ... Anyway, I called the company to have the thing repaired, as it was obvious that the live conductor was touching the pipe at the top. They sent Vern& Ernest, I swear. Even after I demonstrated the problem by lighting-up a 100W bulb between the pipe and a ground, one of the guys grabbed both pieces of metal& ZAPPED himself for proof! "Oh yeah, that's live." I guess he was accustomed to 120volts AC! - Original Message - From: "Barry Kasindorf" To: "Antique Phonograph List" Sent: Friday, February 17, 2012 1:43 PM Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Does anyone know how to make a Jones Motrola _safe_? Very true. The question was SAFETY. I hate having 3 wire plugs on antique electronics. You can easily put a polarized plug on a piece of zipcord and get the ends right and be safe as well. I like the idea of making something SAFE without changing the item at all. -Barry On 2/17/2012 12:25 PM, Bruce wrote: Barry, the shock hazard model during HiPot testing development assumes all external metallic surfaces on a product are always at the same potential. That is why we are only required to test against the product ground through an alligator clamp to the chassis or through the ground terminal of the 3 wire AC input. The shock hazard model we care about is a ground path through the body past the heart. You could be standing on a concrete floor barefoot or touching a cold water pipe with your other arm. I submit to you that I could connect any ungrounded electrical device through my isolation transformer, float it up to 1500VAC (the isolation voltage of my isolation transformer) and invite you to touch it and depending on your resistance to ground, you will definitely feel it. It will not be much current, and it may not kill you but it will wake you up faster than a few cups of coffee. ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
[Phono-L] wanted to buy
Hi,I'm am looking for a Columbia AG case & a Columbia BF lid.Any help would be greatly appreciated.Thanks,John ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
[Phono-L] 12-Inch Button on Edison Disk Machine?
A friend has a Laboratory Model diamond disk player. To the left of the platter, along the edge close to the cabinet, are two push buttons -- one labeled "10" and the other "12." Neither of us was aware that there were 12-inch diamond disks. Were Edison reproducers available for lateral records? Was this an after-market modification? Thanks, Chris ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
Re: [Phono-L] 12-Inch Button on Edison Disk Machine?
And if you don't know how to operate it: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=38027&item=390393488879 How stupid did Edison think people were?? On 2/23/12, chris...@cox.net wrote: > A friend has a Laboratory Model diamond disk player. To the left of the > platter, along the edge close to the cabinet, are two push buttons -- one > labeled "10" and the other "12." Neither of us was aware that there were > 12-inch diamond disks. Were Edison reproducers available for lateral > records? Was this an after-market modification? > > Thanks, > > Chris > ___ > Phono-L mailing list > http://phono-l.org > ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
Re: [Phono-L] 12-Inch Button on Edison Disk Machine?
I'll bet you could supply the needed records. Mike Oldcranky On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 10:33 AM, Darrell Lehman wrote: > And if you don't know how to operate it: > > > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=38027&item=390393488879 > > How stupid did Edison think people were?? > > On 2/23/12, chris...@cox.net wrote: > > A friend has a Laboratory Model diamond disk player. To the left of the > > platter, along the edge close to the cabinet, are two push buttons -- one > > labeled "10" and the other "12." Neither of us was aware that there were > > 12-inch diamond disks. Were Edison reproducers available for lateral > > records? Was this an after-market modification? > > > > Thanks, > > > > Chris > > ___ > > Phono-L mailing list > > http://phono-l.org > > > ___ > Phono-L mailing list > http://phono-l.org > ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
Re: [Phono-L] 12-Inch Button on Edison Disk Machine?
It's actually a very convenient thing, helping to reduce the awkwardness of the little flip lever and likely preventing stylus damage from missing the edge of the record. I think they came out around the same time as the LP system, where protecting the fine LP stylus was even more crucial. I use the 10" every time I play a record. Very nice to have. Sent from my iPhone -- Peter pjfra...@mac.com On Feb 23, 2012, at 10:33 AM, Darrell Lehman wrote: > And if you don't know how to operate it: > > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=38027&item=390393488879 > > How stupid did Edison think people were?? > > On 2/23/12, chris...@cox.net wrote: >> A friend has a Laboratory Model diamond disk player. To the left of the >> platter, along the edge close to the cabinet, are two push buttons -- one >> labeled "10" and the other "12." Neither of us was aware that there were >> 12-inch diamond disks. Were Edison reproducers available for lateral >> records? Was this an after-market modification? >> >> Thanks, >> >> Chris >> ___ >> Phono-L mailing list >> http://phono-l.org >> > ___ > Phono-L mailing list > http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
Re: [Phono-L] 12-Inch Button on Edison Disk Machine?
Yes, there were 12" disks and special reproducers and styli to play them. The groove is extremely fine. The phono had to be dead level too, I believe. The 10/12 buttons activated a stop to the amount the horn would swing by means of a small arm attached to the top edge of the horn. Ron L -Original Message- From: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org] On Behalf Of chris...@cox.net Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2012 11:33 AM To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Subject: [Phono-L] 12-Inch Button on Edison Disk Machine? A friend has a Laboratory Model diamond disk player. To the left of the platter, along the edge close to the cabinet, are two push buttons -- one labeled "10" and the other "12." Neither of us was aware that there were 12-inch diamond disks. Were Edison reproducers available for lateral records? Was this an after-market modification? Thanks, Chris ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
Re: [Phono-L] 12-Inch Button on Edison Disk Machine?
I concur that the button makes it easier, especially on a nice, well-lubricated machine where it's easy to go too far and then swinging all that mass back over to the right (without going too far again), prior to setting the diamond down on the disc. I don't speed through, but it's a lot of mass to swing over and stop dead before dropping the stylus. The button stops it exactly where it needs to be and there's no fishing. Andrew Baron Santa Fe On Feb 23, 2012, at 9:32 AM, wrote: > A friend has a Laboratory Model diamond disk player. To the left of the > platter, along the edge close to the cabinet, are two push buttons -- one > labeled "10" and the other "12." Neither of us was aware that there were > 12-inch diamond disks. Were Edison reproducers available for lateral > records? Was this an after-market modification? > > Thanks, > > Chris > ___ > Phono-L mailing list > http://phono-l.org > ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
Re: [Phono-L] 12-Inch Button on Edison Disk Machine?
Twelve-inch discs were recorded in preparation for a new series, but the Long Playing program was decided upon,. instead. 12" masters had been recorded as far back as 1910, too. Problems with the gold-sputtering process supposedly stopped the early issue of 12inch Edisons, plus the fact that the 10inch discs already played as long as any competing discs. My Baby Console also has the 10-12 buttons never occurred to me that they were intended for "stupid" people, though . I doubt that the average person knew or cared what size were his phonograph records, any more than most people knew or cared how any machines worked. - Original Message - From: To: Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2012 11:32 AM Subject: [Phono-L] 12-Inch Button on Edison Disk Machine? A friend has a Laboratory Model diamond disk player. To the left of the platter, along the edge close to the cabinet, are two push buttons -- one labeled "10" and the other "12." Neither of us was aware that there were 12-inch diamond disks. Were Edison reproducers available for lateral records? Was this an after-market modification? Thanks, Chris ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
Re: [Phono-L] 12-Inch Button on Edison Disk Machine?
the sample records are twelve inch -Original Message- From: chrisk33 To: phono-l Sent: Thu, Feb 23, 2012 1:12 pm Subject: [Phono-L] 12-Inch Button on Edison Disk Machine? A friend has a Laboratory Model diamond disk player. To the left of the latter, along the edge close to the cabinet, are two push buttons -- one abeled "10" and the other "12." Neither of us was aware that there were 2-inch diamond disks. Were Edison reproducers available for lateral records? as this an after-market modification? Thanks, Chris __ hono-L mailing list ttp://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
Re: [Phono-L] Does anyone know how to make a Jones Motrola _safe_?
- Original Message - From: "Rich" To: "Antique Phonograph List" Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2012 7:43 AM Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Does anyone know how to make a Jones Motrola _safe_? I believe I mentioned that here previously, I suspect that it was ignored though. On 02/23/2012 03:56 AM, Jim Nichol wrote: That sounds like a brilliant guy. I was just in a course about electrical safety last week. The voltage that kills the most people is 120 VAC. Jim On Feb 23, 2012, at 4:44 AM, DanKj wrote: This discussion reminded me of a situation here, a few years back: The power company replaced the wires from my house to the pole, and a few months later, I happened to touch the metal pipe through which the wires ran to my meter in the cellar. ZAP! The pipe had never been attached to the meter box or my fuse/breaker box, both of which were grounded (after I grounded them - NOTHING was grounded when I moved in here!) ... Anyway, I called the company to have the thing repaired, as it was obvious that the live conductor was touching the pipe at the top. They sent Vern& Ernest, I swear. Even after I demonstrated the problem by lighting-up a 100W bulb between the pipe and a ground, one of the guys grabbed both pieces of metal& ZAPPED himself for proof! "Oh yeah, that's live." I guess he was accustomed to 120volts AC! Reminds me of when I was a kid, I had a Silvertone tape recorder and a Sure brothers microphone. The tape recorder chassis was grounded to one side of the AC. The microphone shield wire was grounded to the metal case of the mic, and the other side to the recorder chassis. The stack vent pipe from the bathroom downstairs ran right up through the middle of my bedroom, which of course was an earth ground. Mic in one hand, lean against the pipe with the other hand. (you can guess the rest). I wish I could say I only made that mistake once. :-( Don ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
Re: [Phono-L] 12-Inch Button on Edison Disk Machine?
Interesting. The 10 - 12 buttons on my first DD also were on a BC-34. I've only ever seen them on that one and some Laboratory Model C-19's. Anyone out there have them on other models?? Andrew On Feb 23, 2012, at 1:33 PM, DanKj wrote: Twelve-inch discs were recorded in preparation for a new series, but the Long Playing program was decided upon,. instead. 12" masters had been recorded as far back as 1910, too. Problems with the gold- sputtering process supposedly stopped the early issue of 12inch Edisons, plus the fact that the 10inch discs already played as long as any competing discs. My Baby Console also has the 10-12 buttons never occurred to me that they were intended for "stupid" people, though . I doubt that the average person knew or cared what size were his phonograph records, any more than most people knew or cared how any machines worked. - Original Message - From: To: Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2012 11:32 AM Subject: [Phono-L] 12-Inch Button on Edison Disk Machine? A friend has a Laboratory Model diamond disk player. To the left of the platter, along the edge close to the cabinet, are two push buttons -- one labeled "10" and the other "12." Neither of us was aware that there were 12-inch diamond disks. Were Edison reproducers available for lateral records? Was this an after- market modification? Thanks, Chris ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
Re: [Phono-L] Does anyone know how to make a Jones Motrola _safe_?
An old buddy of mine grew up on a farm. When he was about 10 he decided to pee on the exposed spark plug of a running pump motor, which sparked his pump quite well, and quite painfully. Sent from my iPhone -- Peter pjfra...@mac.com On Feb 23, 2012, at 4:21 PM, Don Dellmann wrote: > > - Original Message - From: "Rich" > To: "Antique Phonograph List" > Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2012 7:43 AM > Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Does anyone know how to make a Jones Motrola _safe_? > > >> I believe I mentioned that here previously, I suspect that it was ignored >> though. >> >> On 02/23/2012 03:56 AM, Jim Nichol wrote: >>> That sounds like a brilliant guy. I was just in a course about electrical >>> safety last week. The voltage that kills the most people is 120 VAC. >>> >>> Jim >>> >>> On Feb 23, 2012, at 4:44 AM, DanKj wrote: >>> This discussion reminded me of a situation here, a few years back: The power company replaced the wires from my house to the pole, and a few months later, I happened to touch the metal pipe through which the wires ran to my meter in the cellar. ZAP! The pipe had never been attached to the meter box or my fuse/breaker box, both of which were grounded (after I grounded them - NOTHING was grounded when I moved in here!) ... Anyway, I called the company to have the thing repaired, as it was obvious that the live conductor was touching the pipe at the top. They sent Vern& Ernest, I swear. Even after I demonstrated the problem by lighting-up a 100W bulb between the pipe and a ground, one of the guys grabbed both pieces of metal& ZAPPED himself for proof! "Oh yeah, that's live." I guess he was accustomed to 120volts AC! > > Reminds me of when I was a kid, I had a Silvertone tape recorder and a Sure > brothers microphone. The tape recorder chassis was grounded to one side of > the AC. The microphone shield wire was grounded to the metal case of the > mic, and the other side to the recorder chassis. The stack vent pipe from > the bathroom downstairs ran right up through the middle of my bedroom, which > of course was an earth ground. > > Mic in one hand, lean against the pipe with the other hand. (you can guess > the rest). I wish I could say I only made that mistake once. :-( > > Don > > > ___ > Phono-L mailing list > http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
Re: [Phono-L] Alba Gramphone on American restoration...
Tom Jordan said on Wed, 22 Feb 2012 18:59:31... On the subject: Alba Gramphone on American restoration tonight at 9:00 PM I just noticed that on American restoration tonight at 9:00 PM CST on the History Channel that a customer brings in an Alba Gramophone to be restored. Unfortunately I only saw the digest version with Tom's note today, Thursday, which was too late but looking forward, I found the program is repeated on:- History Channel, on Dish Network 120 at 8:30 pm Wed March 2nd. ... Graham Newton -- Audio Restoration by Graham Newton, http://www.audio-restoration.com World class professional services applied to tape or phonograph records for consumers and re-releases, featuring CEDAR's CAMBRIDGE processes. ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
Re: [Phono-L] Does anyone know how to make a Jones Motrola _safe_?
I suspect he will never do that again. On 02/23/2012 06:43 PM, Peter Fraser wrote: An old buddy of mine grew up on a farm. When he was about 10 he decided to pee on the exposed spark plug of a running pump motor, which sparked his pump quite well, and quite painfully. Sent from my iPhone -- Peter pjfra...@mac.com On Feb 23, 2012, at 4:21 PM, Don Dellmann wrote: - Original Message - From: "Rich" To: "Antique Phonograph List" Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2012 7:43 AM Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Does anyone know how to make a Jones Motrola _safe_? I believe I mentioned that here previously, I suspect that it was ignored though. On 02/23/2012 03:56 AM, Jim Nichol wrote: That sounds like a brilliant guy. I was just in a course about electrical safety last week. The voltage that kills the most people is 120 VAC. Jim On Feb 23, 2012, at 4:44 AM, DanKj wrote: This discussion reminded me of a situation here, a few years back: The power company replaced the wires from my house to the pole, and a few months later, I happened to touch the metal pipe through which the wires ran to my meter in the cellar. ZAP! The pipe had never been attached to the meter box or my fuse/breaker box, both of which were grounded (after I grounded them - NOTHING was grounded when I moved in here!) ... Anyway, I called the company to have the thing repaired, as it was obvious that the live conductor was touching the pipe at the top. They sent Vern& Ernest, I swear. Even after I demonstrated the problem by lighting-up a 100W bulb between the pipe and a ground, one of the guys grabbed both pieces of metal& ZAPPED himself for proof! "Oh yeah, that's live." I guess he was accustomed to 120volts AC! Reminds me of when I was a kid, I had a Silvertone tape recorder and a Sure brothers microphone. The tape recorder chassis was grounded to one side of the AC. The microphone shield wire was grounded to the metal case of the mic, and the other side to the recorder chassis. The stack vent pipe from the bathroom downstairs ran right up through the middle of my bedroom, which of course was an earth ground. Mic in one hand, lean against the pipe with the other hand. (you can guess the rest). I wish I could say I only made that mistake once. :-( Don ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
Re: [Phono-L] wanted to buy
I think this is Paul Bakers e-mail _classm@adelphia.net_ (mailto:cla...@adelphia.net) . Thanks In a message dated 2/23/2012 10:56:20 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, jdcoffm...@comcast.net writes: Hi,I'm am looking for a Columbia AG case & a Columbia BF lid.Any help would be greatly appreciated.Thanks,John ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
Re: [Phono-L] 12-Inch Button on Edison Disk Machine?
they are found on my IU-19 Italian Umbrian. Russ On 2012-02-23, at 4:25 PM, Andrew Baron wrote: > Interesting. The 10 - 12 buttons on my first DD also were on a BC-34. I've > only ever seen them on that one and some Laboratory Model C-19's. Anyone out > there have them on other models?? > > Andrew > ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
Re: [Phono-L] Paul Baker's email
That adelphia.net email address is obsolete. Adelphia went out of business several years ago and were taken over by Time Warner. > From: c5...@aol.com > Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 21:40:21 -0500 > To: phono-l@oldcrank.org > Subject: Re: [Phono-L] wanted to buy > > I think this is Paul Bakers e-mail _classm@adelphia.net_ > (mailto:cla...@adelphia.net) . Thanks > > > In a message dated 2/23/2012 10:56:20 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, > jdcoffm...@comcast.net writes: > > Hi,I'm am looking for a Columbia AG case & a Columbia BF lid.Any help > would be greatly appreciated.Thanks,John > ___ > Phono-L mailing list > http://phono-l.org > > ___ > Phono-L mailing list > http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
Re: [Phono-L] Does anyone know how to make a Jones Motrola _safe_?
No, he never did that again, but went on to fame & fortune as a falsetto singer for the band AC/DC... > Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 20:10:56 -0600 > From: rich-m...@octoxol.com > To: phono-l@oldcrank.org > Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Does anyone know how to make a Jones Motrola _safe_? > > I suspect he will never do that again. > > On 02/23/2012 06:43 PM, Peter Fraser wrote: > > An old buddy of mine grew up on a farm. When he was about 10 he decided to > > pee on the exposed spark plug of a running pump motor, which sparked his > > pump quite well, and quite painfully. > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > > -- Peter > > pjfra...@mac.com > > > > On Feb 23, 2012, at 4:21 PM, Don Dellmann wrote: > > > >> > >> - Original Message - From: "Rich" > >> To: "Antique Phonograph List" > >> Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2012 7:43 AM > >> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Does anyone know how to make a Jones Motrola _safe_? > >> > >> > >>> I believe I mentioned that here previously, I suspect that it was ignored > >>> though. > >>> > >>> On 02/23/2012 03:56 AM, Jim Nichol wrote: > That sounds like a brilliant guy. I was just in a course about > electrical safety last week. The voltage that kills the most people is > 120 VAC. > > Jim > > On Feb 23, 2012, at 4:44 AM, DanKj wrote: > > > This discussion reminded me of a situation here, a few years back: > > The power company replaced the wires from my house to the pole, and a > > few months later, I happened to touch the metal pipe through which the > > wires ran to my meter in the cellar. ZAP! The pipe had never been > > attached to the meter box or my fuse/breaker box, both of which were > > grounded (after I grounded them - NOTHING was grounded when I moved in > > here!) ... Anyway, I called the company to have the thing repaired, as > > it was obvious that the live conductor was touching the pipe at the > > top. They sent Vern& Ernest, I swear. Even after I demonstrated the > > problem by lighting-up a 100W bulb between the pipe and a ground, one > > of the guys grabbed both pieces of metal& ZAPPED himself for proof! > > "Oh yeah, that's live." I guess he was accustomed to 120volts AC! > > > >> > >> Reminds me of when I was a kid, I had a Silvertone tape recorder and a > >> Sure brothers microphone. The tape recorder chassis was grounded to one > >> side of the AC. The microphone shield wire was grounded to the metal case > >> of the mic, and the other side to the recorder chassis. The stack vent > >> pipe from the bathroom downstairs ran right up through the middle of my > >> bedroom, which of course was an earth ground. > >> > >> Mic in one hand, lean against the pipe with the other hand. (you can > >> guess the rest). I wish I could say I only made that mistake once. :-( > >> > >> Don > >> > >> > >> ___ > >> Phono-L mailing list > >> http://phono-l.org > > ___ > > Phono-L mailing list > > http://phono-l.org > > > > > ___ > Phono-L mailing list > http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
Re: [Phono-L] Paul Baker's email
Here's the email address I have for Paul Baker: pabcla...@aol.com Greg Bogantz - Original Message - From: "Vinyl Visions" To: Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2012 10:21 PM Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Paul Baker's email That adelphia.net email address is obsolete. Adelphia went out of business several years ago and were taken over by Time Warner. From: c5...@aol.com Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 21:40:21 -0500 To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Subject: Re: [Phono-L] wanted to buy I think this is Paul Bakers e-mail _classm@adelphia.net_ (mailto:cla...@adelphia.net) . Thanks In a message dated 2/23/2012 10:56:20 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, jdcoffm...@comcast.net writes: Hi,I'm am looking for a Columbia AG case & a Columbia BF lid.Any help would be greatly appreciated.Thanks,John ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
Re: [Phono-L] 12-Inch Button on Edison Disk Machine?
Thanks Russ. That is an unusual one. I appreciate your chiming in. Andrew Baron On Feb 23, 2012, at 7:55 PM, Russ Ridley wrote: > they are found on my IU-19 Italian Umbrian. > > Russ > > > > > On 2012-02-23, at 4:25 PM, Andrew Baron wrote: > >> Interesting. The 10 - 12 buttons on my first DD also were on a BC-34. I've >> only ever seen them on that one and some Laboratory Model C-19's. Anyone >> out there have them on other models?? >> >> Andrew >> > > ___ > Phono-L mailing list > http://phono-l.org > ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
Re: [Phono-L] Does anyone know how to make a Jones Motrola _safe_?
Just found him in the SSDI. He died in '93 at the age of 68. But I think he fathered at least one kid. Sent from my iPhone -- Peter pjfra...@mac.com On Feb 23, 2012, at 7:27 PM, Vinyl Visions wrote: > > No, he never did that again, but went on to fame & fortune as a falsetto > singer for the band AC/DC... > >> Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 20:10:56 -0600 >> From: rich-m...@octoxol.com >> To: phono-l@oldcrank.org >> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Does anyone know how to make a Jones Motrola _safe_? >> >> I suspect he will never do that again. >> >> On 02/23/2012 06:43 PM, Peter Fraser wrote: >>> An old buddy of mine grew up on a farm. When he was about 10 he decided to >>> pee on the exposed spark plug of a running pump motor, which sparked his >>> pump quite well, and quite painfully. >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>> -- Peter >>> pjfra...@mac.com >>> >>> On Feb 23, 2012, at 4:21 PM, Don Dellmann wrote: >>> - Original Message - From: "Rich" To: "Antique Phonograph List" Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2012 7:43 AM Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Does anyone know how to make a Jones Motrola _safe_? > I believe I mentioned that here previously, I suspect that it was ignored > though. > > On 02/23/2012 03:56 AM, Jim Nichol wrote: >> That sounds like a brilliant guy. I was just in a course about >> electrical safety last week. The voltage that kills the most people is >> 120 VAC. >> >> Jim >> >> On Feb 23, 2012, at 4:44 AM, DanKj wrote: >> >>> This discussion reminded me of a situation here, a few years back: >>> The power company replaced the wires from my house to the pole, and a >>> few months later, I happened to touch the metal pipe through which the >>> wires ran to my meter in the cellar. ZAP! The pipe had never been >>> attached to the meter box or my fuse/breaker box, both of which were >>> grounded (after I grounded them - NOTHING was grounded when I moved in >>> here!) ... Anyway, I called the company to have the thing repaired, as >>> it was obvious that the live conductor was touching the pipe at the >>> top. They sent Vern& Ernest, I swear. Even after I demonstrated the >>> problem by lighting-up a 100W bulb between the pipe and a ground, one >>> of the guys grabbed both pieces of metal& ZAPPED himself for proof! >>> "Oh yeah, that's live." I guess he was accustomed to 120volts AC! >>> Reminds me of when I was a kid, I had a Silvertone tape recorder and a Sure brothers microphone. The tape recorder chassis was grounded to one side of the AC. The microphone shield wire was grounded to the metal case of the mic, and the other side to the recorder chassis. The stack vent pipe from the bathroom downstairs ran right up through the middle of my bedroom, which of course was an earth ground. Mic in one hand, lean against the pipe with the other hand. (you can guess the rest). I wish I could say I only made that mistake once. :-( Don ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org >>> ___ >>> Phono-L mailing list >>> http://phono-l.org >>> >>> >> ___ >> Phono-L mailing list >> http://phono-l.org > > ___ > Phono-L mailing list > http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
Re: [Phono-L] 12-Inch Button on Edison Disk Machine?
I've seen them on Chippendale consoles and William and Mary consoles. Sent from my iPhone -- Peter pjfra...@mac.com On Feb 23, 2012, at 6:55 PM, Russ Ridley wrote: > they are found on my IU-19 Italian Umbrian. > > Russ > > > > > On 2012-02-23, at 4:25 PM, Andrew Baron wrote: > >> Interesting. The 10 - 12 buttons on my first DD also were on a BC-34. I've >> only ever seen them on that one and some Laboratory Model C-19's. Anyone >> out there have them on other models?? >> >> Andrew >> > > ___ > Phono-L mailing list > http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
Re: [Phono-L] Alba Gramphone on American restoration...
I just sent a note which is in error - this episode IS new. I swear I saw something like it a few months ago, but it wasn't this one. It is viewable online, though (with commercials) . The finished product is ... well, you'll see. - Original Message - From: "Graham Newton" To: Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2012 7:55 PM Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Alba Gramphone on American restoration... Tom Jordan said on Wed, 22 Feb 2012 18:59:31... On the subject: Alba Gramphone on American restoration tonight at 9:00 PM I just noticed that on American restoration tonight at 9:00 PM CST on the History Channel that a customer brings in an Alba Gramophone to be restored. Unfortunately I only saw the digest version with Tom's note today, Thursday, which was too late but looking forward, I found the program is repeated on:- History Channel, on Dish Network 120 at 8:30 pm Wed March 2nd. ... Graham Newton ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
