Re: [Phono-L] Phono-L Digest, Vol 9, Issue 147
I am completely in favor of restoring and preserving these wonderful machines for future generations. I was simply commenting that the crew at American restorations ripped this guy off big time. $4,500.00? Please Their idea of restoring an Edison motor is to submerge it in solvent and scrub the outside to look shiny. That is not a proper restoration. That is setting the owner up for future headaches. We have a multitude of talented, knowledgeable and kind hearted people on this list that could have helped him achieve his dream for a fraction of the price. Just one guys opinion... Tom Jordan -Original Message- From: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org] On Behalf Of GAYLE VOISINE, BECKY VOISINE Sent: Friday, June 15, 2012 10:39 PM To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Phono-L Digest, Vol 9, Issue 147 In response to a lot of you dought sayers on the restoration of the diamond disc phono. I think , for one it is beter to restore than to junk! I like that they replaced the veneer, rather than try to patch the existing ,and look like Shit , like a lot of restorations look like. I fix and restore a lot of radios , phonographs and some juke boxes for myself and freinds, and I don't do shitty work. I won't do anything that I wouldn't want for myself, as far as finished quality. I get some terrible stuff from supposedly restorers who are on registered websites , that I would be ashamed to ask money for.You people need to get a life and not criticise people who are trying to keep something going on for others to enjoy instead of destroy , or tear apart and sell in pieces rather than sell as good working machine. I realize that there are alot of machines that are good for nothing but parts. I believe that we should try to keep thees machines going for eterninty, but they should work and look good not beat up and cobbled up! Stop being like a bunch of old women at a quilting bee, bitching about old men! Thank you! Mr. Voisine. > From: phono-l-requ...@oldcrank.org > Subject: Phono-L Digest, Vol 9, Issue 147 > To: phono-l@oldcrank.org > Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2012 12:00:01 -0700 > > Send Phono-L mailing list submissions to phono-l@oldcrank.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://oldcrank.org/mailman/listinfo/phono-l > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > phono-l-requ...@oldcrank.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > phono-l-ow...@oldcrank.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Phono-L digest..." > > > If you reply, please change your subject line and don't include this entire digest in your message. > > Today's Topics: > > 1. American restoration. Edison Chippandale restoration (Tom Jordan) > 2. Re: American restoration. Edison Chippandale restoration (Jim > Nichol) 3. Re: American restoration. Edison Chippendale restoration > (DanKj) 4. Re: American restoration. Edison Chippandale restoration > (zonophone2...@aol.com) > 5. Re: American restoration. Edison Chippendale restoration > (bruce78...@comcast.net) > > > -- > > Message: 1 > Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2012 22:25:31 -0500 > From: Tom Jordan > To: "'Antique Phonograph List'" > Subject: [Phono-L] American restoration. Edison Chippandale > restoration > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > So I was watching American Restoration tonight and a guy brought in an > Edison C-19 Chippendale phonograph to be restored. > Settled upon price for the restoration, $4,500.00. Hmmm... > > Tom > > > > > > -- > > Message: 2 > Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2012 23:36:34 -0400 > From: Jim Nichol > To: Antique Phonograph List > Subject: Re: [Phono-L] American restoration. Edison Chippandale > restoration > Message-ID: <2e4ce769-50c7-490a-9aa3-464e45be0...@fuse.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > How did it look after it was "restored"? > > Jim > > On Jun 13, 2012, at 11:25 PM, Tom Jordan wrote: > > > So I was watching American Restoration tonight and a guy brought in > > an Edison C-19 Chippendale phonograph to be restored. > > Settled upon price for the restoration, $4,500.00. Hmmm... > > > > Tom > > > > -- > > Message: 3 > Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2012 01:34:54 -0400 > From: "DanKj" > To: "Antique Phonograph List" > Subject: Re: [Phono-L] American restoration. Edison Chippendale > restoration > Message-ID: <4694907304644AB1B139DBF72F77F888@moms> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; > reply-type=original > > Ack. Last time I saw them touch a phono, they soaked the motor in > industrial de-greaser, never opened the spring case, and did nothing > with the reproducer. They didn't even understand that it was run by a > spring - they said it was "a flywheel". To top it all,
Re: [Phono-L] Phono-L Digest, Vol 9, Issue 147
I finally had a chance to see the Edison Chippendale Diamond Disk on the American Restoration show today. I can't really complain about it. The wood looked awful, and the veneer on top was coming off. They brought in a "wood guy" who replaced the top veneer and refinished the rest. It looked pretty good on the 13-inch TV I was watching it on. It was a little surprising that they gold plated the turntable and reproducer, but it did look nice. And yes, there was a dark or black turntable felt used (although it was missing in one shot where they were showing off the gold plating). They used solvent and a brush to clean the underneath works. Don't know if any spring or reproducer work was done, but chances are it didn't need much work there. So over all, it made the machine look nice. And besides, it's a Chippendale, so not a rare machine. But Gayle, your message probably contains the only two 4-letter words in the history of this forum! Jim Nichol On Jun 15, 2012, at 11:38 PM, GAYLE VOISINE, BECKY VOISINE wrote: > > In response to a lot of you dought sayers on the restoration of the diamond > disc phono. I think , for one it is beter to restore than to junk! I like > that they replaced the veneer, rather than try to patch the existing ,and > look like Shit , like a lot of restorations look like. I fix and restore a > lot of radios , phonographs and some juke boxes for myself and freinds, and I > don't do shitty work. I won't do anything that I wouldn't want for myself, as > far as finished quality. I get some terrible stuff from supposedly restorers > who are on registered websites > , that I would be ashamed to ask money for.You people need to get a life and > not criticise people who are trying to keep something going on for others to > enjoy instead of destroy , or tear apart and sell in pieces rather than sell > as good working machine. > I realize that there are alot of machines that are good for nothing but parts. > I believe that we should try to keep thees machines going for eterninty, > but they should work and look good not beat up and cobbled up! Stop being > like a bunch of old women at a quilting bee, bitching about old men! Thank > you! Mr. Voisine. > ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
Re: [Phono-L] Phono-L Digest, Vol 9, Issue 147
In response to a lot of you dought sayers on the restoration of the diamond disc phono. I think , for one it is beter to restore than to junk! I like that they replaced the veneer, rather than try to patch the existing ,and look like Shit , like a lot of restorations look like. I fix and restore a lot of radios , phonographs and some juke boxes for myself and freinds, and I don't do shitty work. I won't do anything that I wouldn't want for myself, as far as finished quality. I get some terrible stuff from supposedly restorers who are on registered websites , that I would be ashamed to ask money for.You people need to get a life and not criticise people who are trying to keep something going on for others to enjoy instead of destroy , or tear apart and sell in pieces rather than sell as good working machine. I realize that there are alot of machines that are good for nothing but parts. I believe that we should try to keep thees machines going for eterninty, but they should work and look good not beat up and cobbled up! Stop being like a bunch of old women at a quilting bee, bitching about old men! Thank you! Mr. Voisine. > From: phono-l-requ...@oldcrank.org > Subject: Phono-L Digest, Vol 9, Issue 147 > To: phono-l@oldcrank.org > Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2012 12:00:01 -0700 > > Send Phono-L mailing list submissions to > phono-l@oldcrank.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://oldcrank.org/mailman/listinfo/phono-l > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > phono-l-requ...@oldcrank.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > phono-l-ow...@oldcrank.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Phono-L digest..." > > > If you reply, please change your subject line and don't include this entire > digest in your message. > > Today's Topics: > > 1. American restoration. Edison Chippandale restoration (Tom Jordan) > 2. Re: American restoration. Edison Chippandale restoration > (Jim Nichol) > 3. Re: American restoration. Edison Chippendale restoration (DanKj) > 4. Re: American restoration. Edison Chippandale restoration > (zonophone2...@aol.com) > 5. Re: American restoration. Edison Chippendale restoration > (bruce78...@comcast.net) > > > -- > > Message: 1 > Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2012 22:25:31 -0500 > From: Tom Jordan > To: "'Antique Phonograph List'" > Subject: [Phono-L] American restoration. Edison Chippandale > restoration > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > So I was watching American Restoration tonight and a guy brought in an > Edison C-19 Chippendale phonograph to be restored. > Settled upon price for the restoration, $4,500.00. Hmmm... > > Tom > > > > > > -- > > Message: 2 > Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2012 23:36:34 -0400 > From: Jim Nichol > To: Antique Phonograph List > Subject: Re: [Phono-L] American restoration. Edison Chippandale > restoration > Message-ID: <2e4ce769-50c7-490a-9aa3-464e45be0...@fuse.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > How did it look after it was "restored"? > > Jim > > On Jun 13, 2012, at 11:25 PM, Tom Jordan wrote: > > > So I was watching American Restoration tonight and a guy brought in an > > Edison C-19 Chippendale phonograph to be restored. > > Settled upon price for the restoration, $4,500.00. Hmmm... > > > > Tom > > > > -- > > Message: 3 > Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2012 01:34:54 -0400 > From: "DanKj" > To: "Antique Phonograph List" > Subject: Re: [Phono-L] American restoration. Edison Chippendale > restoration > Message-ID: <4694907304644AB1B139DBF72F77F888@moms> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; > reply-type=original > > Ack. Last time I saw them touch a phono, they soaked the motor in > industrial de-greaser, never opened the spring case, and did nothing with > the reproducer. They didn't even understand that it was run by a spring - > they said it was "a flywheel". To top it all, the horn got a hideous paint > job that only a clown could love! > > > > > > - Original Message - > From: "Tom Jordan" > To: "'Antique Phonograph List'" > Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2012 11:25 PM > Subject: [Phono-L] American restoration. Edison Chippendale restoration > > > > So I was watching American Restoration tonight and a guy brought in an > > Edison C-19 Chippendale phonograph to be restored. > > Settled upon price for the restoration, $4,500.00. Hmmm... > > > > > > -- > > Message: 4 > Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2012 05:07:41 -0400 (EDT) > From: zonophone2...@aol.com > To: phono-l@oldcrank.org > Subject: Re: [Phono-L] American restoration. Edison Chippandale > restoration > Message-ID: <8cf182449ada92d-2318-c...@webmail-d095.sysops.aol.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > wow > i w
Re: [Phono-L] Why I never made it to Union
YES TIM HOPE ALL TURNS OUT WELL FOR YOU ZONO -Original Message- From: Stan Stanford To: 'Antique Phonograph List' Sent: Thu, Jun 14, 2012 10:38 pm Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Why I never made it to Union Tim, I'm glad you are getting better and wish you the best in recovery. So sorry you missed the Union show. Stan Stanford Oregon Territory -Original Message- From: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org] On Behalf Of Tim McCormick Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2012 6:30 PM To: 'Antique Phonograph List' Subject: [Phono-L] Why I never made it to Union Folks, After weeks of preparation, time and expense I drove 4 ½ hours to Elgin, IL and checked into the Hampton Inn on Thursday evening. I was looking forward to spending Friday, Saturday and Sunday with friends at the worlds largest antique phonograph show hosted at Donleys Wild West Town in Union, IL. This was my best and last face-to-face opportunity to convince other talented individuals to replace me as President of the International Antique Phonograph Society and as Editor of our magazine In The Groove. About mid-way during my drive, I started feeling a little feverish and my stomach developed an ache, not really a pain. I was blaming it on a possible bad raison from the Trail Mix dried fruit I enjoyed the night before. I checked into the Elgin, IL Hampton Inn, and carried in my suitcase and some of the equipment I brought along for the Phonovention presentations. I started feeling worse, so I called it a night and went to bed at 8:00 p.m. At 9:30 or so, I knew there was something a dose of Pepto-Bismol just would not cure. I got up and dressed, but I could not stand up straight. As I walked the hallway from my hotel room to the front desk to ask for directions to the nearest hospital, knowing full well that Id never be able to drive there myself, I was met by a small group of fellow antique phonograph collectors who were headed to their rooms, and one person who was at that time a complete stranger to me, Bob Barnett, offered to drive me in his car to the hospital emergency room. He offered to stay with me until I was either dismissed or admitted - this was at 10:00 at night. I gave Bob, my new found friend, the keys to my truck and asked him to give them to the Hampton Inns front desk. I had to make some quick arrangements with HAPS President, Rich Buck, to empty my truck of all of the items I had prepared and brought with me for our trade show booth so it could be set up and ready for the event at 8:00 a.m. the following morning. Rich, John Hauger, Joan Rolfs and I am sure many others pitched in and completed what needed to be done in my absence. The CAT scan and blood tests proved that it was a ruptured, gangrenous appendix. I had the emergency surgery at 9:00 Friday morning as Union was getting underway. I was released from Sherman Hospital late Monday afternoon. To put it mildly, I was very disappointed to miss Union and Phonovention 2012. Rich Buck dropped by the hospital with a card prepared by Joan Rolfs and signed by several attendees and friends. He informed me that Phonovention was very successful and that Patrick Feasters presentation room was packed to capacity. Now that I am home, I am receiving cards in the mail and E-Mails from well-wishers with questions on what occurred, so I thought it best to let everyone know I am doing great and getting ready to start compiling the August / September Issue of In The Groove. Convalescingly Yours, Tim McCormick International / Michigan Antique Phonograph Society ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
Re: [Phono-L] Why I never made it to Union
Tim, Many of us at Union were aware of your ordeal and you were in our prayers. Glad you're on the road to recovery and best wishes for renewed health very soon. George Paul -Original Message- From: Tim McCormick To: 'Antique Phonograph List' Sent: Thu, Jun 14, 2012 9:44 pm Subject: [Phono-L] Why I never made it to Union Folks, After weeks of preparation, time and expense I drove 4 ½ hours to Elgin, IL and checked into the Hampton Inn on Thursday evening. I was looking forward to spending Friday, Saturday and Sunday with friends at the worlds largest antique phonograph show hosted at Donleys Wild West Town in Union, IL. This was my best and last face-to-face opportunity to convince other talented individuals to replace me as President of the International Antique Phonograph Society and as Editor of our magazine In The Groove. About mid-way during my drive, I started feeling a little feverish and my stomach developed an ache, not really a pain. I was blaming it on a possible bad raison from the Trail Mix dried fruit I enjoyed the night before. I checked into the Elgin, IL Hampton Inn, and carried in my suitcase and some of the equipment I brought along for the Phonovention presentations. I started feeling worse, so I called it a night and went to bed at 8:00 p.m. At 9:30 or so, I knew there was something a dose of Pepto-Bismol just would not cure. I got up and dressed, but I could not stand up straight. As I walked the hallway from my hotel room to the front desk to ask for directions to the nearest hospital, knowing full well that Id never be able to drive there myself, I was met by a small group of fellow antique phonograph collectors who were headed to their rooms, and one person who was at that time a complete stranger to me, Bob Barnett, offered to drive me in his car to the hospital emergency room. He offered to stay with me until I was either dismissed or admitted - this was at 10:00 at night. I gave Bob, my new found friend, the keys to my truck and asked him to give them to the Hampton Inns front desk. I had to make some quick arrangements with HAPS President, Rich Buck, to empty my truck of all of the items I had prepared and brought with me for our trade show booth so it could be set up and ready for the event at 8:00 a.m. the following morning. Rich, John Hauger, Joan Rolfs and I am sure many others pitched in and completed what needed to be done in my absence. The CAT scan and blood tests proved that it was a ruptured, gangrenous appendix. I had the emergency surgery at 9:00 Friday morning as Union was getting underway. I was released from Sherman Hospital late Monday afternoon. To put it mildly, I was very disappointed to miss Union and Phonovention 2012. Rich Buck dropped by the hospital with a card prepared by Joan Rolfs and signed by several attendees and friends. He informed me that Phonovention was very successful and that Patrick Feasters presentation room was packed to capacity. Now that I am home, I am receiving cards in the mail and E-Mails from well-wishers with questions on what occurred, so I thought it best to let everyone know I am doing great and getting ready to start compiling the August / September Issue of In The Groove. Convalescingly Yours, Tim McCormick International / Michigan Antique Phonograph Society ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
Re: [Phono-L] Why I never made it to Union
Wow Tim, glad you are going to be ok! Best wishes for a speedy recovery from Golden State Phonograph Society! John Robles From: Tim McCormick To: 'Antique Phonograph List' Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2012 6:30 PM Subject: [Phono-L] Why I never made it to Union Folks, After weeks of preparation, time and expense I drove 4 ½ hours to Elgin, IL and checked into the Hampton Inn on Thursday evening. I was looking forward to spending Friday, Saturday and Sunday with friends at the world’s largest antique phonograph show hosted at Donley’s Wild West Town in Union, IL. This was my best and last face-to-face opportunity to convince other talented individuals to replace me as President of the International Antique Phonograph Society and as Editor of our magazine In The Groove. About mid-way during my drive, I started feeling a little feverish and my stomach developed an ache, not really a pain. I was blaming it on a possible bad raison from the Trail Mix dried fruit I enjoyed the night before. I checked into the Elgin, IL Hampton Inn, and carried in my suitcase and some of the equipment I brought along for the Phonovention presentations. I started feeling worse, so I called it a night and went to bed at 8:00 p.m. At 9:30 or so, I knew there was something a dose of Pepto-Bismol just would not cure. I got up and dressed, but I could not stand up straight. As I walked the hallway from my hotel room to the front desk to ask for directions to the nearest hospital, knowing full well that I’d never be able to drive there myself, I was met by a small group of fellow antique phonograph collectors who were headed to their rooms, and one person who was at that time a complete stranger to me, Bob Barnett, offered to drive me in his car to the hospital emergency room. He offered to stay with me until I was either dismissed or admitted - this was at 10:00 at night. I gave Bob, my new found friend, the keys to my truck and asked him to give them to the Hampton Inn’s front desk. I had to make some quick arrangements with HAPS President, Rich Buck, to empty my truck of all of the items I had prepared and brought with me for our trade show booth so it could be set up and ready for the event at 8:00 a.m. the following morning. Rich, John Hauger, Joan Rolfs and I am sure many others pitched in and completed what needed to be done in my absence. The CAT scan and blood tests proved that it was a ruptured, gangrenous appendix. I had the emergency surgery at 9:00 Friday morning as Union was getting underway. I was released from Sherman Hospital late Monday afternoon. To put it mildly, I was very disappointed to miss Union and Phonovention 2012. Rich Buck dropped by the hospital with a card prepared by Joan Rolfs and signed by several attendees and friends. He informed me that Phonovention was very successful and that Patrick Feaster’s presentation room was packed to capacity. Now that I am home, I am receiving cards in the mail and E-Mails from well-wishers with questions on what occurred, so I thought it best to let everyone know I am doing great and getting ready to start compiling the August / September Issue of In The Groove. Convalescingly Yours, Tim McCormick International / Michigan Antique Phonograph Society ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
