Re: [Phono-L] Anyone know an early electric phono repair man?
If you're looking to get your idler wheel refurbished I recommned Phono Ed- Ed Crockett. He re-surfaced an idler wheel for me several years ago and did a bang up job. Here is a link to his website: http://vintagelectronics.com/index.htm -Original Message- From: Ron L'Herault To: 'Antique Phonograph List' Sent: Sun, Sep 2, 2012 11:08 pm Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Anyone know an early electric phono repair man? And if it has an idler wheel between the motor's rotating shaft and the urntable edge, its actual size is not critical. You can substitute a ubber O ring. However, a little internet searching will turn up places hat will replace the idler's rubber with new to the same size as original. on L -Original Message- rom: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org] On ehalf Of Andrew Baron ent: Sunday, September 02, 2012 8:08 PM o: Antique Phonograph List ubject: Re: [Phono-L] Anyone know an early electric phono repair man? You're welcome Edward. The rubber idler wheel can sometimes be reconditioned -softened and urface-dressed with a chemical. If it has a notable flat spot (from ecades resting against the inside of the turntable rim under tension), it ill need to be replaced. When these get hard it transfers all kinds of oise to the platter which then acts like a diaphragm to magnify the noise. he motor board, if the motor is bolted directly to it, then acts like a ound board, further amplifying the rattle. The original stylus might have been a metal alloy. One such was called Osmium", which would give more plays than an ordinary steel needle. It ould also have been a jewel-tipped metal shank. Electric Admirals from that era with no radio are pretty rare. The repairs are pretty straightforward. Best of luck, Andrew On Sep 2, 2012, at 5:42 PM, keeper...@aol.com wrote: > Andrew, Thank You for taking the time to respond as you did, with all that helpful information! I guessed aright that if the symptoms were described, someone who knows them would indicate a prognosis. I think that since these machines are fairly rare, and yet when working properly play records with a lovely, iconic sound, they should be restored. They're easier on the old records than a Victrola, also, if you like to play them a lot, as I do. I have a great GE phonograph, with an AM radio, that I would estimate to have been available in the 40s, extrapolating from your description of this Admir al. The original stylus must be gone. I got it with a standard steel needle in it. And yes, the garbled music was from the record. There is no radio with this unit, it only plays records. I'll wait and see if anyone in the area responds, but appreciate your making yourself available. I used to know someone in the antique radio club that came down to the Salem, Sounds of Nostalgia show, but t's been awhile. I've lost touch. It would be nice to know who's doing this now. All the Best, : ) Edward In a message dated 9/2/2012 3:01:52 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, a...@popyrus.com writes: Hi Edward ~ Your Admiral is more likely late pre-war; ca. 1939 to 42, or early post-war; ca. 1946-1947. The symptoms you describe are typical of this technology when it ages, and are: Hardened rubber on the idler wheel (turntable noise); Dead electrolytic capacitors, two to three of these will be found in need of replacement (loud hum and garbled sound). This is a job for a soldering iron, and the correct types and polarity will be needed. These are available. If when you say "the music sounds garbled" you mean music from a record and not from a built-in radio, then it's a small miracle that your crystal cartridge might actually be good. 99% of these are found dead or substantially diminished in unrestored phonographs of this ra. The fact that there's a set screw for the stylus indicates that yours still has the crystal cartridge. These can be rebuilt with a new element if needed (some of the distortion can be from the cartridge), or replaced with a more reliable type of cartridge and stylus. The unit may need some other minor work. Usually motor bearings, idler wheel arbor & bushings and platter bearings need de-gumming and new lubrication, and if it has a changer, these usually need some attention as well. On the electronic side, the power cord may be brittle if it's original and certain of the "paper" capacitors will likely benefit from replacement as these get electrically leaky and can lso contribute to distortion. I don't know who in Portland works on antique radios, but I know you can find someone through the radio collector community out there or a useum. If that fails I restore these types of items but you would incur shipping charges in addition to the usual parts and labor. Good luck with this. Andrew Baron Santa Fe On Sep 2, 2012, at 2:26 PM,
Re: [Phono-L] early electric phono repair man? SAFETY comments
Greetings Edward: I do all my own restorations. When it comes to anything electronic, the first thing you need to know is the model number and serial number. From that you can get to step 2, finding a schematic diagram. I would recommend Peter Wall in San Francisco but he is a long way from you. There must be someone in your area who will do the restoration but likely any professional will charge a hefty fee. The model and serial are likely put on the back of the cabinet or on a plaque attached to the radio or amplifier chassis. Andrew is quite correct about the capacitors being dead. The speakers of that era used the field coil for a choke (inductor) to smooth out the rectified DC in the power supply so when the caps are dead you get 60Hz hum coming from the speaker. You really should never apply full operating current to any old TV or Radio that hasn't worked in years. Bad things can happen quickly to delicate components. Shops specializing in old electronics often have Photofacts or Wiley's service bulletins. Again this starts with the model number. Lastly, don't go poking around when the unit is powered up. Some units like my Edison C2 have HOT potentiometer shafts. I can tell you that to have a few hundred volts surge through your body is no fun. These old units are best safely brought up in line voltage slowly with a variac and made more safe with an isolation transformer. Regards, Al ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
Re: [Phono-L] Anyone know an early electric phono repair man?
And if it has an idler wheel between the motor's rotating shaft and the turntable edge, its actual size is not critical. You can substitute a rubber O ring. However, a little internet searching will turn up places that will replace the idler's rubber with new to the same size as original. Ron L -Original Message- From: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org] On Behalf Of Andrew Baron Sent: Sunday, September 02, 2012 8:08 PM To: Antique Phonograph List Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Anyone know an early electric phono repair man? You're welcome Edward. The rubber idler wheel can sometimes be reconditioned -softened and surface-dressed with a chemical. If it has a notable flat spot (from decades resting against the inside of the turntable rim under tension), it will need to be replaced. When these get hard it transfers all kinds of noise to the platter which then acts like a diaphragm to magnify the noise. The motor board, if the motor is bolted directly to it, then acts like a sound board, further amplifying the rattle. The original stylus might have been a metal alloy. One such was called "Osmium", which would give more plays than an ordinary steel needle. It could also have been a jewel-tipped metal shank. Electric Admirals from that era with no radio are pretty rare. The repairs are pretty straightforward. Best of luck, Andrew On Sep 2, 2012, at 5:42 PM, keeper...@aol.com wrote: > Andrew, > > Thank You for taking the time to respond as you did, with all that > helpful information! I guessed aright that if the symptoms were > described, someone who knows them would indicate a prognosis. I think > that since these machines are fairly rare, and yet when working > properly play records with a lovely, iconic sound, they should be > restored. They're easier on the old records than a Victrola, also, if > you like to play them a lot, as I do. I have a great GE phonograph, > with an AM radio, that I would estimate to have been available in the > 40s, extrapolating from your description of this Admir al. > > The original stylus must be gone. I got it with a standard steel > needle in it. And yes, the garbled music was from the record. There > is no radio with this unit, it only plays records. > > I'll wait and see if anyone in the area responds, but appreciate your > making yourself available. I used to know someone in the antique > radio club that came down to the Salem, Sounds of Nostalgia show, but it's been awhile. > I've lost touch. It would be nice to know who's doing this now. > > All the Best, > > : ) > > Edward > > > > In a message dated 9/2/2012 3:01:52 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, > a...@popyrus.com writes: > > Hi Edward ~ > > Your Admiral is more likely late pre-war; ca. 1939 to 42, or early > post-war; ca. 1946-1947. > > The symptoms you describe are typical of this technology when it > ages, and > are: > Hardened rubber on the idler wheel (turntable noise); > > Dead electrolytic capacitors, two to three of these will be found in > need of replacement (loud hum and garbled sound). This is a job for > a soldering iron, and the correct types and polarity will be needed. > These are available. > > If when you say "the music sounds garbled" you mean music from a > record and not from a built-in radio, then it's a small miracle that > your crystal cartridge might actually be good. 99% of these are > found dead or substantially diminished in unrestored phonographs of this era. > > The fact that there's a set screw for the stylus indicates that yours > still has the crystal cartridge. These can be rebuilt with a new > element if needed (some of the distortion can be from the cartridge), > or replaced with a more reliable type of cartridge and stylus. > > The unit may need some other minor work. Usually motor bearings, > idler wheel arbor & bushings and platter bearings need de-gumming and > new lubrication, and if it has a changer, these usually need some > attention as well. On the electronic side, the power cord may be > brittle if it's original and certain of the "paper" capacitors will > likely benefit from replacement as these get electrically leaky and can also contribute to distortion. > > I don't know who in Portland works on antique radios, but I know you > can find someone through the radio collector community out there or a museum. > If that fails I restore these types of items but you would incur > shipping charges in addition to the usual parts and labor. > > Good luck with this. > > Andrew Baron > Santa Fe > > On Sep 2, 2012, at 2:26 PM, keeper...@aol.com wrote: > >> Greetings Phellow Fonoteers, >> >> Can anyone recommend a repair man for an electric-powered, >> 78-player, hopefully in the Portland, Oregon area? I have an >> Admiral tabletop > that's >> likely from the 1930s. It has some interesting Art Deco features, >> and > has a >> thumb s
Re: [Phono-L] Anyone know an early electric phono repair man?
You're welcome Edward. The rubber idler wheel can sometimes be reconditioned -softened and surface-dressed with a chemical. If it has a notable flat spot (from decades resting against the inside of the turntable rim under tension), it will need to be replaced. When these get hard it transfers all kinds of noise to the platter which then acts like a diaphragm to magnify the noise. The motor board, if the motor is bolted directly to it, then acts like a sound board, further amplifying the rattle. The original stylus might have been a metal alloy. One such was called "Osmium", which would give more plays than an ordinary steel needle. It could also have been a jewel-tipped metal shank. Electric Admirals from that era with no radio are pretty rare. The repairs are pretty straightforward. Best of luck, Andrew On Sep 2, 2012, at 5:42 PM, keeper...@aol.com wrote: > Andrew, > > Thank You for taking the time to respond as you did, with all that helpful > information! I guessed aright that if the symptoms were described, someone > who knows them would indicate a prognosis. I think that since these > machines are fairly rare, and yet when working properly play records with a > lovely, iconic sound, they should be restored. They're easier on the old > records than a Victrola, also, if you like to play them a lot, as I do. I > have > a great GE phonograph, with an AM radio, that I would estimate to have > been available in the 40s, extrapolating from your description of this Admir > al. > > The original stylus must be gone. I got it with a standard steel needle > in it. And yes, the garbled music was from the record. There is no radio > with this unit, it only plays records. > > I'll wait and see if anyone in the area responds, but appreciate your > making yourself available. I used to know someone in the antique radio club > that came down to the Salem, Sounds of Nostalgia show, but it's been awhile. > > I've lost touch. It would be nice to know who's doing this now. > > All the Best, > > : ) > > Edward > > > > In a message dated 9/2/2012 3:01:52 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, > a...@popyrus.com writes: > > Hi Edward ~ > > Your Admiral is more likely late pre-war; ca. 1939 to 42, or early > post-war; ca. 1946-1947. > > The symptoms you describe are typical of this technology when it ages, and > are: > Hardened rubber on the idler wheel (turntable noise); > > Dead electrolytic capacitors, two to three of these will be found in need > of replacement (loud hum and garbled sound). This is a job for a soldering > iron, and the correct types and polarity will be needed. These are > available. > > If when you say "the music sounds garbled" you mean music from a record > and not from a built-in radio, then it's a small miracle that your crystal > cartridge might actually be good. 99% of these are found dead or > substantially diminished in unrestored phonographs of this era. > > The fact that there's a set screw for the stylus indicates that yours > still has the crystal cartridge. These can be rebuilt with a new element if > needed (some of the distortion can be from the cartridge), or replaced with > a > more reliable type of cartridge and stylus. > > The unit may need some other minor work. Usually motor bearings, idler > wheel arbor & bushings and platter bearings need de-gumming and new > lubrication, and if it has a changer, these usually need some attention as > well. On > the electronic side, the power cord may be brittle if it's original and > certain of the "paper" capacitors will likely benefit from replacement as > these get electrically leaky and can also contribute to distortion. > > I don't know who in Portland works on antique radios, but I know you can > find someone through the radio collector community out there or a museum. > If that fails I restore these types of items but you would incur shipping > charges in addition to the usual parts and labor. > > Good luck with this. > > Andrew Baron > Santa Fe > > On Sep 2, 2012, at 2:26 PM, keeper...@aol.com wrote: > >> Greetings Phellow Fonoteers, >> >> Can anyone recommend a repair man for an electric-powered, 78-player, >> hopefully in the Portland, Oregon area? I have an Admiral tabletop > that's >> likely from the 1930s. It has some interesting Art Deco features, and > has a >> thumb screw at the head of the tone arm for changing needles. The > turntable >> makes enough noise to stampede the cattle, and when the tubes warm up > it >> hums very loudly, and I fear it will frighten the peasants who have no > way of >> appreciating what manner of sinister experiments are going on here. > Also, >> the music sounds garbled. I suspect it has an electrical short going > on >> but this isn't something I know a lot about, but I don't want to awaken > my >> creation prematurely, or burn our cas
Re: [Phono-L] Anyone know an early electric phono repair man?
Andrew, Thank You for taking the time to respond as you did, with all that helpful information! I guessed aright that if the symptoms were described, someone who knows them would indicate a prognosis. I think that since these machines are fairly rare, and yet when working properly play records with a lovely, iconic sound, they should be restored. They're easier on the old records than a Victrola, also, if you like to play them a lot, as I do. I have a great GE phonograph, with an AM radio, that I would estimate to have been available in the 40s, extrapolating from your description of this Admir al. The original stylus must be gone. I got it with a standard steel needle in it. And yes, the garbled music was from the record. There is no radio with this unit, it only plays records. I'll wait and see if anyone in the area responds, but appreciate your making yourself available. I used to know someone in the antique radio club that came down to the Salem, Sounds of Nostalgia show, but it's been awhile. I've lost touch. It would be nice to know who's doing this now. All the Best, : ) Edward In a message dated 9/2/2012 3:01:52 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, a...@popyrus.com writes: Hi Edward ~ Your Admiral is more likely late pre-war; ca. 1939 to 42, or early post-war; ca. 1946-1947. The symptoms you describe are typical of this technology when it ages, and are: Hardened rubber on the idler wheel (turntable noise); Dead electrolytic capacitors, two to three of these will be found in need of replacement (loud hum and garbled sound). This is a job for a soldering iron, and the correct types and polarity will be needed. These are available. If when you say "the music sounds garbled" you mean music from a record and not from a built-in radio, then it's a small miracle that your crystal cartridge might actually be good. 99% of these are found dead or substantially diminished in unrestored phonographs of this era. The fact that there's a set screw for the stylus indicates that yours still has the crystal cartridge. These can be rebuilt with a new element if needed (some of the distortion can be from the cartridge), or replaced with a more reliable type of cartridge and stylus. The unit may need some other minor work. Usually motor bearings, idler wheel arbor & bushings and platter bearings need de-gumming and new lubrication, and if it has a changer, these usually need some attention as well. On the electronic side, the power cord may be brittle if it's original and certain of the "paper" capacitors will likely benefit from replacement as these get electrically leaky and can also contribute to distortion. I don't know who in Portland works on antique radios, but I know you can find someone through the radio collector community out there or a museum. If that fails I restore these types of items but you would incur shipping charges in addition to the usual parts and labor. Good luck with this. Andrew Baron Santa Fe On Sep 2, 2012, at 2:26 PM, keeper...@aol.com wrote: > Greetings Phellow Fonoteers, > > Can anyone recommend a repair man for an electric-powered, 78-player, > hopefully in the Portland, Oregon area? I have an Admiral tabletop that's > likely from the 1930s. It has some interesting Art Deco features, and has a > thumb screw at the head of the tone arm for changing needles. The turntable > makes enough noise to stampede the cattle, and when the tubes warm up it > hums very loudly, and I fear it will frighten the peasants who have no way of > appreciating what manner of sinister experiments are going on here. Also, > the music sounds garbled. I suspect it has an electrical short going on > but this isn't something I know a lot about, but I don't want to awaken my > creation prematurely, or burn our castle down. > > Anyway, if you know somebody, possibly an antique radio man, I'll call him > or her forthwith. > > Many Thanks, > > : ) > > Edward > ___ > Phono-L mailing list > http://phono-l.org > ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
Re: [Phono-L] Anyone know an early electric phono repair man?
You need to re-cap the amp. Look through the old classifieds here http://www.antiqueradio.com/ for someone in your area doing radio restoration. On 09/02/2012 03:26 PM, keeper...@aol.com wrote: Greetings Phellow Fonoteers, Can anyone recommend a repair man for an electric-powered, 78-player, hopefully in the Portland, Oregon area? I have an Admiral tabletop that's likely from the 1930s. It has some interesting Art Deco features, and has a thumb screw at the head of the tone arm for changing needles. The turntable makes enough noise to stampede the cattle, and when the tubes warm up it hums very loudly, and I fear it will frighten the peasants who have no way of appreciating what manner of sinister experiments are going on here. Also, the music sounds garbled. I suspect it has an electrical short going on but this isn't something I know a lot about, but I don't want to awaken my creation prematurely, or burn our castle down. Anyway, if you know somebody, possibly an antique radio man, I'll call him or her forthwith. Many Thanks, : ) Edward ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
Re: [Phono-L] Anyone know an early electric phono repair man?
Hi Edward ~ Your Admiral is more likely late pre-war; ca. 1939 to 42, or early post-war; ca. 1946-1947. The symptoms you describe are typical of this technology when it ages, and are: Hardened rubber on the idler wheel (turntable noise); Dead electrolytic capacitors, two to three of these will be found in need of replacement (loud hum and garbled sound). This is a job for a soldering iron, and the correct types and polarity will be needed. These are available. If when you say "the music sounds garbled" you mean music from a record and not from a built-in radio, then it's a small miracle that your crystal cartridge might actually be good. 99% of these are found dead or substantially diminished in unrestored phonographs of this era. The fact that there's a set screw for the stylus indicates that yours still has the crystal cartridge. These can be rebuilt with a new element if needed (some of the distortion can be from the cartridge), or replaced with a more reliable type of cartridge and stylus. The unit may need some other minor work. Usually motor bearings, idler wheel arbor & bushings and platter bearings need de-gumming and new lubrication, and if it has a changer, these usually need some attention as well. On the electronic side, the power cord may be brittle if it's original and certain of the "paper" capacitors will likely benefit from replacement as these get electrically leaky and can also contribute to distortion. I don't know who in Portland works on antique radios, but I know you can find someone through the radio collector community out there or a museum. If that fails I restore these types of items but you would incur shipping charges in addition to the usual parts and labor. Good luck with this. Andrew Baron Santa Fe On Sep 2, 2012, at 2:26 PM, keeper...@aol.com wrote: > Greetings Phellow Fonoteers, > > Can anyone recommend a repair man for an electric-powered, 78-player, > hopefully in the Portland, Oregon area? I have an Admiral tabletop that's > likely from the 1930s. It has some interesting Art Deco features, and has a > thumb screw at the head of the tone arm for changing needles. The turntable > makes enough noise to stampede the cattle, and when the tubes warm up it > hums very loudly, and I fear it will frighten the peasants who have no way > of > appreciating what manner of sinister experiments are going on here. Also, > the music sounds garbled. I suspect it has an electrical short going on > but this isn't something I know a lot about, but I don't want to awaken my > creation prematurely, or burn our castle down. > > Anyway, if you know somebody, possibly an antique radio man, I'll call him > or her forthwith. > > Many Thanks, > > : ) > > Edward > ___ > Phono-L mailing list > http://phono-l.org > ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
Re: [Phono-L] Old time dealers
What a difference between Frick and Miller. Miller sold NOS and original parts while Frick sold such horrible crap. His peach can horns are a great example of that. Dave --- On Sun, 9/2/12, Steven Medved wrote: From: Steven Medved Subject: [Phono-L] Old time dealers To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Date: Sunday, September 2, 2012, 3:02 PM I dealt with Gene Ballard who was a skilled machinist and wonderful to deal with. I remember Frick and Miller. Steve > To: phono-l@oldcrank.org > From: zonophone2...@aol.com > Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2012 10:13:43 -0400 > Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Thank you and this week on eBay... > > What a name from the past > i have not heard of karl frick in years > i mostly bought back then from neuwman miller > and al just wondered what ever happened to your clock work home > did you sell it to the oliphants > thanks for all you and george did on edison > zono > > > > -Original Message- > From: clockworkhome > To: phono-l > Sent: Sat, Sep 1, 2012 5:28 pm > Subject: [Phono-L] Thank you and this week on eBay... > > > > I humbly say thank you to those who sent me a compliment. > > This week on eBay there were several reasons why I wrote my Master Thesis on > Edison machines then worked with George Frow to do the book. > > Item 1 was a rare 200 thread per inch feedscrew and record mandrel from an M > electric that allowed it to play Amberol records ! ! ! This seller doesn't > know that even Edison could not make that work so a planetary gear was used > on > the 100 TPI feedscrew for the 200 TPI records. But since he pulled the > mandrel > and feedscrew off of an M and the threads looked more fine to his eyes that > is > what ended up in the listing. It's an M mandrel ! ! ! > > Item 2 was a rare two piece Fireside Horn reproduction. This is one of the > peach can Bondo Frick's Freaks horns. I am surprised it hasn't come apart so > someone had to take good care of it for the last 50 years. Karl cut out the > screw caps from cooking oil cans to make the screw connection between the two > pieces of the horn. The caps were rather narrow to the horn is slim until > after > the connection then the 'bloom' on the bell is rapid. Viewed from the side > it > just looks odd at best. > > Item 3 is a Standard with a broken reproducer limit pin and broken stylus bar > diaphragm link. I contacted the seller and was told, "Every thing is there > and > it all works!" > > I guess I must be like Don Quixote jousting with windmills. > > Best wishes everyone, > > Al > > ___ > Phono-L mailing list > http://phono-l.org > > > ___ > Phono-L mailing list > http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
[Phono-L] Anyone know an early electric phono repair man?
Greetings Phellow Fonoteers, Can anyone recommend a repair man for an electric-powered, 78-player, hopefully in the Portland, Oregon area? I have an Admiral tabletop that's likely from the 1930s. It has some interesting Art Deco features, and has a thumb screw at the head of the tone arm for changing needles. The turntable makes enough noise to stampede the cattle, and when the tubes warm up it hums very loudly, and I fear it will frighten the peasants who have no way of appreciating what manner of sinister experiments are going on here. Also, the music sounds garbled. I suspect it has an electrical short going on but this isn't something I know a lot about, but I don't want to awaken my creation prematurely, or burn our castle down. Anyway, if you know somebody, possibly an antique radio man, I'll call him or her forthwith. Many Thanks, : ) Edward ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
[Phono-L] Old time dealers
I dealt with Gene Ballard who was a skilled machinist and wonderful to deal with. I remember Frick and Miller. Steve > To: phono-l@oldcrank.org > From: zonophone2...@aol.com > Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2012 10:13:43 -0400 > Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Thank you and this week on eBay... > > What a name from the past > i have not heard of karl frick in years > i mostly bought back then from neuwman miller > and al just wondered what ever happened to your clock work home > did you sell it to the oliphants > thanks for all you and george did on edison > zono > > > > -Original Message- > From: clockworkhome > To: phono-l > Sent: Sat, Sep 1, 2012 5:28 pm > Subject: [Phono-L] Thank you and this week on eBay... > > > > I humbly say thank you to those who sent me a compliment. > > This week on eBay there were several reasons why I wrote my Master Thesis on > Edison machines then worked with George Frow to do the book. > > Item 1 was a rare 200 thread per inch feedscrew and record mandrel from an M > electric that allowed it to play Amberol records ! ! ! This seller doesn't > know that even Edison could not make that work so a planetary gear was used > on > the 100 TPI feedscrew for the 200 TPI records. But since he pulled the > mandrel > and feedscrew off of an M and the threads looked more fine to his eyes that > is > what ended up in the listing. It's an M mandrel ! ! ! > > Item 2 was a rare two piece Fireside Horn reproduction. This is one of the > peach can Bondo Frick's Freaks horns. I am surprised it hasn't come apart so > someone had to take good care of it for the last 50 years. Karl cut out the > screw caps from cooking oil cans to make the screw connection between the two > pieces of the horn. The caps were rather narrow to the horn is slim until > after > the connection then the 'bloom' on the bell is rapid. Viewed from the side > it > just looks odd at best. > > Item 3 is a Standard with a broken reproducer limit pin and broken stylus bar > diaphragm link. I contacted the seller and was told, "Every thing is there > and > it all works!" > > I guess I must be like Don Quixote jousting with windmills. > > Best wishes everyone, > > Al > > ___ > Phono-L mailing list > http://phono-l.org > > > ___ > Phono-L mailing list > http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
Re: [Phono-L] Thank you and this week on eBay...
What a name from the past i have not heard of karl frick in years i mostly bought back then from neuwman miller and al just wondered what ever happened to your clock work home did you sell it to the oliphants thanks for all you and george did on edison zono -Original Message- From: clockworkhome To: phono-l Sent: Sat, Sep 1, 2012 5:28 pm Subject: [Phono-L] Thank you and this week on eBay... I humbly say thank you to those who sent me a compliment. This week on eBay there were several reasons why I wrote my Master Thesis on Edison machines then worked with George Frow to do the book. Item 1 was a rare 200 thread per inch feedscrew and record mandrel from an M electric that allowed it to play Amberol records ! ! ! This seller doesn't know that even Edison could not make that work so a planetary gear was used on the 100 TPI feedscrew for the 200 TPI records. But since he pulled the mandrel and feedscrew off of an M and the threads looked more fine to his eyes that is what ended up in the listing. It's an M mandrel ! ! ! Item 2 was a rare two piece Fireside Horn reproduction. This is one of the peach can Bondo Frick's Freaks horns. I am surprised it hasn't come apart so someone had to take good care of it for the last 50 years. Karl cut out the screw caps from cooking oil cans to make the screw connection between the two pieces of the horn. The caps were rather narrow to the horn is slim until after the connection then the 'bloom' on the bell is rapid. Viewed from the side it just looks odd at best. Item 3 is a Standard with a broken reproducer limit pin and broken stylus bar diaphragm link. I contacted the seller and was told, "Every thing is there and it all works!" I guess I must be like Don Quixote jousting with windmills. Best wishes everyone, Al ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
