Re: [Phono-L] Phono-L Digest, Vol 7, Issue 212
How long ago did you buy the machine? I've had reasonably good success with eBay resolution center if the item was paid for with PayPal. They currently hold the money until the buyer posts favorable feedback. Also they have the sellers bank account # so they can take the funds out of it if the claim is resolved in your favor. I have a very old Pay Pal account and have never given them my bank account # and never will. For that reason and a number of others I no longer sell on eBay. -Original Message- From: Robert Wright Sent: Saturday, December 11, 2010 3:14 PM To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Phono-L Digest, Vol 7, Issue 212 So once again, eBay's "Resolution Center" proved to be the pathetic, worthless joke it always is? I have never had even one single claim be met with anything but form letters and messages from the utterly confused, much less resolved. Best, Robert From: phonowo...@hotmail.com To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Date: Sat, 11 Dec 2010 10:54:11 -0800 Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Phono-L Digest, Vol 7, Issue 212 That was pretty much the end of the story. I ended up re-restoring the machine and it came out reasonably nice. The reason I shared that whole exchange was it simply had to be read to be believed. I was stunned at the lack of rational thinking, denial of responsibility, and borderline psychotic ramblings, not to mention the poor grasp of the most basic concepts of English grammar and sentence structure... Now I'm getting personal, so I'll stop. Let's just leave it at "caveat emptor". Don > From: phono-l-requ...@oldcrank.org > Subject: Phono-L Digest, Vol 7, Issue 212 > To: phono-l@oldcrank.org > Date: Fri, 10 Dec 2010 16:38:15 -0800 > > Send Phono-L mailing list submissions to > phono-l@oldcrank.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://oldcrank.org/mailman/listinfo/phono-l > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > phono-l-requ...@oldcrank.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > phono-l-ow...@oldcrank.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Phono-L digest..." > > > If you reply, please change your subject line and don't include this > entire digest in your message. > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: My experience with ANTIQUE EDISON - Seller's Namewas/ > Frankenreproducer alert (john9...@pacbell.net) > 2. Once upon a time, (Kurt Nauck) > 3. Re: Once upon a time, (Sean Miller) > > > -- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sat, 11 Dec 2010 00:15:22 + > From: john9...@pacbell.net > To: "Antique Phonograph List" > Subject: Re: [Phono-L] My experience with ANTIQUE EDISON - Seller's > Namewas/ Frankenreproducer alert > Message-ID: > <1186219038-1292026523-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-5657871...@bda503.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Come on Donny, don't leave us hanging! > John > -Original Message- > From: hexaph...@sbcglobal.net > Sender: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org > Date: Fri, 10 Dec 2010 16:08:07 > To: Antique Phonograph List > Reply-To: Antique Phonograph List > Subject: Re: [Phono-L] My experience with ANTIQUE EDISON - Seller's Name > was/ Frankenreproducer alert > > Bummer!? However, whats then ending of this saga?? The suspense is > killing us. > > --- On Fri, 12/10/10, Don Henry wrote: > > > From: Don Henry > Subject: [Phono-L] My experience with ANTIQUE EDISON - Seller's Name > was/ Frankenreproducer alert > To: phono-l@oldcrank.org > Date: Friday, December 10, 2010, 4:49 PM > > > > Hello fellow phono enthusiasts. I have been reading the exchange on the > ebay seller known as ANTIQUE EDISON. His name is John Marinacci. I had > the misfortune of purchasing a Victor VI from him off of Ebay about 2 > years ago.? For those of you who would like brave the following email > exchange between Mr Marinacci and me, I am sure you will find it most > enlightening... INITIAL EMAIL: Hi John:I received the Victor VI today. > Thank you for the secure packaging. It arrived safely. However,? I am > concerned about the overall condition of the machine . If you remember, > I asked you specifically if the horn had been patched and you said no. > Unfortunately, there are at least 5 areas on the horn that have been > patched and are easily noticeable. Also, the finish is splotchy and > uneven.Secondly, the machine itself has several glaring problems. You > had indicated that all of the gold hardware had been replated. In fact, > everything but the elbow, crank and the corner > posts are just polished brass. The additional gold plating required will > be very expensive. Secondly, there is a 9" crack on the crank hole side > of the case which has obviously been there since before it was > refinished. Also, the finish is very dark and muddy. The backside of the > machine actually has
Re: [Phono-L] Victor Puzzle Record
Hi Bruce, I learned something new today. I've never heard or seen one of those records before. We can all speculate as to how it was done but I'd rather know who had the imagination to think up the idea. Must have ben a hot shot in the Victor marketing department. Bob V -Original Message- From: bruce78...@comcast.net Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2010 7:52 AM To: Antique Phonograph List Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Victor Puzzle Record http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ozPct-CiZK4 Here is the Conundrum being demonstrated on Youtube. Bruce - Original Message - From: "Douglas Houston" To: "Antique Phonograph List" Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2010 12:50:40 AM Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Victor Puzzle Record There seems to be lot of conjecture about exactly how many of those records that Victor made. I always hear of the Conundrum, but never have seen/heard it. I have the "Puzzle Record", which has three starts on each of two sides. It's a 10 inch. Rust's "Victor Master Book" tells thyat some (not all) of the tracks were done by the Mayfair Orchestra (England?). Audio quality is very good. The stylus sure does go across the record in a hurry! [Original Message] From: Vinyl Visions To: Date: 10/27/2010 12:06:16 AM Subject: [Phono-L] Victor Puzzle Record I'm hoping that someone on the list might have some info on Victor Puzzle Records. I picked one up the other day titled: "The Conundrum - What Should I Play Next?". Anyone know how many of these were made or how scarce they might be? I have only seen two of these - the one that I bought and another by Jimmie Rodgers. Were these a demo of the then current technology, or were they made for some other purpose? The selections on this record are four different types of music, which play randomly, depending on where or when you place the needle - very strange... Curt ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
Re: [Phono-L] Spear Kids Phonograph
Hi Denise, I tried your tip and it did improve the performance of the reproducer. Thanks -- From: "Scott and Denise Corbett" Sent: Saturday, September 25, 2010 12:08 PM To: "'Antique Phonograph List'" Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Spear Kids Phonograph I have had very good luck with the reproducers that are riveted together by dropping several drops of oil onto the gaskets and then kinda rolling it around to make sure they are well coated all the way around. You might be amazed by how much it helps! Denise C. -Original Message- From: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org] On Behalf Of Ron L'Herault Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2010 6:58 PM To: 'Antique Phonograph List' Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Spear Kids Phonograph I've drilled out the rivets to rebuild one and then re-riveted but one can certainly use nuts and bolts to put it back together. Ron L -Original Message- From: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org] On Behalf Of Bob V. Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2010 5:44 PM To: Phono L List Subject: [Phono-L] Spear Kids Phonograph I'm downsizing and going through some odds and ends I found a Spear phonograph from the 40's or 50's. I can't remember when or where I acquired it but it must have been a long time ago when I was a novice at phonograph collecting and bought some real junk. The case is lithographed tin and it has an electric motor. The graphics on it were pretty good so I decided to clean it up a little and give it a spin. Even for a cheap kids machine I can't believe how bad it sounded. the motor is noisy and the reproducer is abysmal. I can't find any damage but I'm sure it had to sound better when new to be a saleable product. Any of you ever try to fix one of these? I can't figure out how to get the reproducer off the plastic tone arm much less disassemble it. The two halves are held together with rivets. I'm sure most of you will think that I'm nuts or have too much time on my hands to be fiddling with this thing. I'd like to get it sounding a little better to give to one of my grand children. Anyone have any ideas what can be done with one of these to improve the sound quality? Thanks ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
[Phono-L] Spear Kids Phonograph
I'm downsizing and going through some odds and ends I found a Spear phonograph from the 40's or 50's. I can't remember when or where I acquired it but it must have been a long time ago when I was a novice at phonograph collecting and bought some real junk. The case is lithographed tin and it has an electric motor. The graphics on it were pretty good so I decided to clean it up a little and give it a spin. Even for a cheap kids machine I can't believe how bad it sounded. the motor is noisy and the reproducer is abysmal. I can't find any damage but I'm sure it had to sound better when new to be a saleable product. Any of you ever try to fix one of these? I can't figure out how to get the reproducer off the plastic tone arm much less disassemble it. The two halves are held together with rivets. I'm sure most of you will think that I'm nuts or have too much time on my hands to be fiddling with this thing. I'd like to get it sounding a little better to give to one of my grand children. Anyone have any ideas what can be done with one of these to improve the sound quality? Thanks ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
Re: [Phono-L] Edison Document for sale - stolen??
This is a total scam. I doubt the perpetrator even has the documents he is claiming to sell. I don't think this is even an American scammer. He lists Benjamin Franklyn as a former US president. Also he wants the transaction to be completed electronically which means the buyer will never see the documents before purchase. -- From: "john robles" Sent: Thursday, July 29, 2010 1:23 AM To: Subject: [Phono-L] Edison Document for sale - stolen?? Hi all A local listing on Craigslist is offering an Edison signed document for $12,995. Ridiculous price, but my concern is if it is a stolen item. They appear to be pages cut from a corporate journal of meeting minutes or something. Signed by both Thomas and Charles Edison, as well as other officers, it raises a flag. How would something like this get into public hands? I wrote to the seller and he sent me the following explanation (which really doesn't explain anything): "Thanks for your interest in the signed Thomas Edison notes. When my grandparents first came to the United States, they held Franklin Roosevelt in the greatest esteem, so they would write letters to him every once in a while. In the years that followed, Roosevelt corresponded on more than one occasion, and my grandparents began collecting these letters. Later on, they also attained signatures from a number of presidents, Benjamin Franklin, Abraham Lincoln, and plenty of other folks. I can't trace each of the items back to the source; fortunately, PSA DNA uses a plethora of methods to determine the authenticity of each of the documents and signatures. I know that the company measures ink pressures, aging, signature characteristics, and a number of factors before determining the legitimacy of each autograph. Upon confirming that a signature is real, they'll swab some sort of DNA marker on the sheet, as a method to permanently label the piece of memorabilia as being authentic. " Anyone else have an opinion on this? Here is the Craigslist link: http://santabarbara.craigslist.org/clt/1853328747.html For good measure I wrote to Leonard DeGraaf, Archivist at the Edison Historic Site, and to Gerald Fabris, curator forwarding them a copy of the link and asking their opinion. It just doesn't seem right that pages form a corporate book would be in public hands. I have made no accusations and I am not saying they are stolen, I am just curious about this. John Robles ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
[Phono-L] 14" Aluminum Horn
I'm looking for a 14" aluminum horn for a Columbia AO. I believe reproductions of this horn are being made but can't find the source. Does any one know where I can get one? Thanks ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
[Phono-L] Stanton's Auction this Weekend
Anyone going to the Stanton auction this weekend. If so, please contact me. I've left bids on a couple of items and would like to know what they go for. Thanks -- ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
