Re: [Phono-L] Human nature...
And one-of-a-kind or not, you know I envy you that Tetrazzini phonograph Jerry! -Original Message- From: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org] On Behalf Of DeeDee Blais Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2011 9:01 PM To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Subject: [Phono-L] Human nature... Years ago I purchased a Victrola that was autographed by Louisa Tetrazzini. Next to the turntable, handwritten in white ink was Souvenir from Louisa Tetrazzini, April, 1923. Over the years I acquired other Tetrazzini items that were signed with the same signature and I'm reasonably sure that the Victrola autograph is genuine. But why did she sign the Victrola? I developed a romantic theory that she was in Portland, Oregon for a performance and instead of staying in one of the hotels, she stayed with a wealthy Portland family. As a courtesy for their hospitality, she signed their Victrola. I really wanted to believe my theory, right up to the moment that I saw another Victrola with the same inscription and same date! I had to face the fact that she must have signed several Victrolas, probably at a Victrola sales promotion for a large dealer. I really wanted to believe that my Victrola XVI was the only Tetrazzini Victrola. Then I saw a second and it was a XVII! * I know strange things happened but they were the exception. I've personally seen a Vernis Martin Victrola with an upside down decal. I was dumbfounded! With that said, I still think 99.99% (or more) of the big Amberolas left the factory with matching numbers. Those numbers were there for a reason. When an Edison was traded in, the number was recorded by the dealer. Stolen machines were identified by the serial numbers. I would not expect a dealer to swap a mechanism from one new machine to another but it was possible. Those machines are a century old and the original owners a long gone. Even a machine that has been in one family has gone through several family members and probably repairs. When those same machines started to be collectable I suspect first generation collectors upgraded mechanisms and cabinets until they were pleased and gave no thought to the serial numbers. I remember reading a modern collector statement that he was against swapping any mechanism or cabinet. I immediately realized that I had violated his ethical position by swapping out a very ordinary and dull works for a nicer one in my mahogany Edison Standard B. Even though the replacement mechanism was period correct, I had not even considered for one moment what I was doing something wrong. * I recently bought a NOS 1968 Sting-Ray Run-A-Bout from a man that was a dealer in the 60's and 70's. The bike was never sold until I bought it. I asked the seller if he would write a note on his old letterhead with a brief history of that bike. I was with my son, Tyler, and grandson, Wyatt. Tyler inquired why I asked for the note and I replied that providence of the bike was important. Wyatt asked what that meant and I replied that the note would show the history of the bike from the Schwinn factory to me. * If I were buying a big Amberola and questioned the seller why the numbers didn't match and his reply was it's always been that way... my grandfather bought it new..., that's really not providence. Too many things could have happened. I may really really want to believe it but my better judgement says otherwise. * I'll stop now or I'll need to get a title for this book. ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
[Phono-L] FREE TO A GOOD HOME
Edison Diamond Disc Phonograph model H-19 free to a good home. It was given to me and I don't have the room to keep it. The cabinet is in lovely condition. The motor turns, but it has a hard time maintaining speed when you put the reproducer on the record. Reproducer sounds good. Decent little machine, and perhaps an easy tinker for the interested person. Fix it up and sell it - or enjoy it. Comes with a box of records - some in good shape, others so-so. It is located right now in Everett WA - 30 miles north of Seattle. PICK UP only - I can't deliver it. Would like to have it gone by the end of the year - otherwise I will be donating it to a charity/thrift shop. If you would like this machine, let me know. Call 206-200-6821. Thanks, Ron Bryan. ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
Re: [Phono-L] Ebay Fraud
Hey Harvey! Good to see you guys at the radio swap meet on Sunday! ~Ron -Original Message- From: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org] On Behalf Of harvey kravitz Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2010 10:16 AM To: Antique Phonograph List Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Ebay Fraud I'd buy the machine for the reproducer. It is an original HMV No. 5 or 5A. It's hard to tell by the photos. Harvey Kravitz From: bruce78...@comcast.net bruce78...@comcast.net To: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org Sent: Tue, August 17, 2010 6:10:19 AM Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Ebay Fraud Yes great Idea, buy it, take off the horn and sell it to Ron, and then smash that craponola to bits with a sledge hammer!! - Original Message - From: Ron L'Herault lhera...@bu.edu To: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2010 8:54:42 AM Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Ebay Fraud I'd buy the horn. Someone sent me a hornless crapophone that I am altering to make it play better. Buy it. I'll give you $15 plus shipping for the horn. Ron L -Original Message- From: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org] On Behalf Of ronbr...@aol.com Sent: Monday, August 16, 2010 11:37 PM To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Ebay Fraud Yeh John, but you could pick it up for a bargain price of $0.99 and avoid the shipping cost as its right in your backyard isn't it? Its a steal at that price! :) It would be worth paying the 99 cents just to take it and smash it to bits. Ron -Original Message- From: john robles john9...@pacbell.net To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Sent: Mon, Aug 16, 2010 10:19 pm Subject: [Phono-L] Ebay Fraud So what else is new?? :-) Here is an item number that really burns me because of their claims in large type that this is an original machine. It burned me so much that I had to write to the seller with some education. Not accusatory, just informative. I know it's useless, but I couldn't help it...If this phonograph is from their own collection as they say, they must have a bunch of crap. Item number: 250683868557 John Robles ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
Re: [Phono-L] More Operatic 78s
Dear old Giuseppina - she has a lovely tremolo. Let me know if you find any Luisa or Adelina. Have a great weekend... ~Ron Bryan -Original Message- From: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org] On Behalf Of jim...@earthlink.net Sent: Thursday, May 13, 2010 5:19 PM To: Antique Phonograph List Subject: Re: [Phono-L] More Operatic 78s Not yet - I'm going alphabetically am in the middle of Giuseppina Huguet. Jim Cartwright Immortal Performances, Inc. jim...@earthlink.net [Original Message] From: Bryan, Ronald (DSHS/DDD) brya...@dshs.wa.gov To: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org Date: 13-May-2010 10:52:16 AM Subject: Re: [Phono-L] More Operatic 78s Hi Jim - any Luisa Tetrazzini or Adelina Patti titles in there? Ron Bryan Seattle, WA -Original Message- From: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org] On Behalf Of jim...@earthlink.net Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2010 6:30 PM To: Phono-L@oldcrank.org Subject: [Phono-L] More Operatic 78s This afternoon I brought another 300+ 78rpm records by Opera Singers (some over 100 years old) to my Stall at The Antique Gallery on IH35 (next to Conn's) in Round Rock, about 14 miles north of Austin. This makes over 800 Classical Vocal 78s I have put out for sale there in the last couple of months, nearly all priced at $ 1.95 each.For collectors living in the Central Texas Area who are interested in Classical Music, this is an un-precedented change to obtain some great 78s at a very reasonable price. Jim Cartwright Immortal Performances, Inc. jim...@earthlink.net ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
Re: [Phono-L] More Operatic 78s
Hi Jim - any Luisa Tetrazzini or Adelina Patti titles in there? Ron Bryan Seattle, WA -Original Message- From: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org] On Behalf Of jim...@earthlink.net Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2010 6:30 PM To: Phono-L@oldcrank.org Subject: [Phono-L] More Operatic 78s This afternoon I brought another 300+ 78rpm records by Opera Singers (some over 100 years old) to my Stall at The Antique Gallery on IH35 (next to Conn's) in Round Rock, about 14 miles north of Austin.This makes over 800 Classical Vocal 78s I have put out for sale there in the last couple of months, nearly all priced at $ 1.95 each.For collectors living in the Central Texas Area who are interested in Classical Music, this is an un-precedented change to obtain some great 78s at a very reasonable price. Jim Cartwright Immortal Performances, Inc. jim...@earthlink.net ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
Re: [Phono-L] Dual Lateral/Vertical Reproducer
I'm not sure about an Edison DD machine - it fits a Victrola tone arm - same size cuff as the Exhibition or No.2 reproducer. I tried out the vertical setting last night on a Par-O-Ket record and it worked very nicely. It's fun - tinkering with the little screws to get the angles right - some satisfying puttering. -Original Message- From: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org] On Behalf Of Dan Kj Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2010 4:11 PM To: Antique Phonograph List Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Dual Lateral/Vertical Reproducer Does this attachment fit an Edison disc machine? Sounds just like one that I have To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Sent: Tue, April 27, 2010 4:29:08 PM Subject: [Phono-L] Dual Lateral/Vertical Reproducer Hello - I found a dual lateral/vertical reproducer in an antique shop today. It was in a box of accessories for a floor model Victrola XI. I asked if they would part with just that piece and managed to buy it pretty reasonably. It has what appears to be a Bakelite diaphragm - it's opaque brown. The needle holder has two holes - one in line with the diaphragm for the lateral records, and one angled for vertical cut records. Its backing has two L-tubes that can be twisted around to position the reproducer for the appropriate record type. When in position for a vertical cut record the diaphragm is positioned face down horizontal to the turntable - as with an Ultona. It's not an Ultona, but I don't see any markings indicating what company manufactured this piece. I was hoping someone would recognize it by this description and might know something more about it. ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
Re: [Phono-L] reproducer identification
The VV 4-3 Consolette - I have the second cabinet style of this machine - is an orthophonic. The orthophonic reproducers that were made of cast metal are prone to cracks with age, and maybe that is what happened to the reproducer on your machine - maybe a previous owner replaced it with this one. I'd track down a correct replacement orthophonic reproducer. Regards, Ron B, Seattle. -Original Message- From: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org] On Behalf Of dan s Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2010 11:01 AM To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Subject: [Phono-L] reproducer identification hello everyone i was wondering if anyone could tell me what the make and or model of reproducer this is. i bought a victrola orthophonic v v 4-3 and this reproducer came with it. judging by the sloppy fit to the tone arm i would have to guess this is not the original one but i don't know. it is in need of a thumb screw which is why i would like to know which make it is. any information would be very helpful and greatly appreciated. thank you -- ATTACHMENT -- **An Attachment Was Scrubbed** Name: 2010_0428motoredison0012.JPG Type: image/jpeg Size: 75796 bytes URL: http://oldcrank.org/pipermail/phono-l/attachments/20100428/7d6ed8c8/att achment.jpe ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
Re: [Phono-L] Dual Lateral/Vertical Reproducer
Thanks Harvey - and thanks others who contacted me. My inquiry resulted in finding the sapphire - which is in route already. Harvey - see you at the next OTAPS event. Ron -Original Message- From: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org] On Behalf Of harvey kravitz Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2010 11:03 AM To: Antique Phonograph List Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Dual Lateral/Vertical Reproducer Bryan, You can check Wyatt, APSCO, And any orher dealers in the ITG magazine. Harvey Kravitz From: Bryan, Ronald (DSHS/DDD) brya...@dshs.wa.gov To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Sent: Tue, April 27, 2010 4:29:08 PM Subject: [Phono-L] Dual Lateral/Vertical Reproducer Hello - I found a dual lateral/vertical reproducer in an antique shop today. It was in a box of accessories for a floor model Victrola XI. I asked if they would part with just that piece and managed to buy it pretty reasonably. It has what appears to be a Bakelite diaphragm - it's opaque brown. The needle holder has two holes - one in line with the diaphragm for the lateral records, and one angled for vertical cut records. Its backing has two L-tubes that can be twisted around to position the reproducer for the appropriate record type. When in position for a vertical cut record the diaphragm is positioned face down horizontal to the turntable - as with an Ultona. It's not an Ultona, but I don't see any markings indicating what company manufactured this piece. I was hoping someone would recognize it by this description and might know something more about it. Then the real question - where can I acquire a sapphire tipped stylus? I do have a number of vertical cut records in my collection - some Pathés, a couple of Rex records, and a Par-O-Ket - and I'm glad to be one step closer to being able to listen to them... just need to find a sapphire stylus. Any ideas? Regards, Ron Bryan Seattle, WA ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
[Phono-L] Dual Lateral/Vertical Reproducer
Hello - I found a dual lateral/vertical reproducer in an antique shop today. It was in a box of accessories for a floor model Victrola XI. I asked if they would part with just that piece and managed to buy it pretty reasonably. It has what appears to be a Bakelite diaphragm - it's opaque brown. The needle holder has two holes - one in line with the diaphragm for the lateral records, and one angled for vertical cut records. Its backing has two L-tubes that can be twisted around to position the reproducer for the appropriate record type. When in position for a vertical cut record the diaphragm is positioned face down horizontal to the turntable - as with an Ultona. It's not an Ultona, but I don't see any markings indicating what company manufactured this piece. I was hoping someone would recognize it by this description and might know something more about it. Then the real question - where can I acquire a sapphire tipped stylus? I do have a number of vertical cut records in my collection - some Pathés, a couple of Rex records, and a Par-O-Ket - and I'm glad to be one step closer to being able to listen to them... just need to find a sapphire stylus. Any ideas? Regards, Ron Bryan Seattle, WA ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
Re: [Phono-L] Dating Tita Ruffo Opera Record
If someone has the Victor Red Seal Discography Volume 1 they could look it up. I looked in the Encyclopedic Discography of Victor Recordings, and I find nothing about your recording there. I did see that Ruffo recorded 3 takes of Toreador Song in 1923, but those matrices appear to have been destroyed and never released. The Encyclopedic Discography is current for domestic matrices through March 31st, 1924. If this was a Gramophone recording - maybe it has not been entered yet. At any rate - if none of Ruffo's first three Victor takes of Toreador were released, and considering that the red seals went double sided in 1925 or so - maybe this recording was in between 1923 and 1925.I did find this very record on Youtube - but no helpful info there. Lovely recording though. -Original Message- From: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org] On Behalf Of bruce78...@comcast.net Sent: Friday, April 23, 2010 1:28 PM To: 78-L Cc: Phono-L Subject: [Phono-L] Dating Tita Ruffo Opera Record This one has me puzzled as far an original Recording date is concerned. Carmen - Cancion del Toreador by Titta Ruffo a Coro Della Scala Victor one sided Red Seal 92065 (2736f) A European Recording no doubt with the crown in the top Runout at 12 O'clock. Thanks in advance for your help on this. Bruce ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
Re: [Phono-L] Steel needle manufacturer??
I observe a difference in shape between antique/original phono needles, and newly manufactured ones. The antique needles I've found are slightly longer, and are tapered along the full length of the needle - a true needle shape. The newly manufactured ones are somewhat shorter, and are not tapered apart from the cone tip - they are more of a brad shape. I sure do like the look of the old long tapered needle when I use one from time to time. Anyone know if any of these manufacturers that have been mentioned still make the old-school style needles that are tapered along the full length? To my un-aided ear, I can't tell a difference in the sound of an old needle versus a new needle, but I am sure on some micro-level there is a difference. Just as the varying size of a soft tone versus a full tone needle makes a difference, the varying shapes of antique versus new needles, and also difference in the old-versus-new steel alloys, must affect the vibrational sensitivity of the needle, and thereby ultimately have an effect on the sound. So even if the difference in sound is not perceptible to me, I still find it more satisfying to use an antique needle. Lol - maybe I'm the only one for whom these pedantic details matter! -Original Message- From: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org] On Behalf Of Daniel Melvin Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2010 10:09 AM To: Antique Phonograph List Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Steel needle manufacturer?? I have bought tickets from APSCO and they have been very reliable. http://www.antiquephono.com/ Dan On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 9:38 AM, jim...@earthlink.net jim...@earthlink.netwrote: Some years ago I bought steel needles from Pfanstiehl but then began buying from the New Amberola Phonograph Company which following a telephone call to place an order after which I sent payment three years ago failed to send the needles cash the cheques I'd sent, despite several follow up letters I've writtenI'd like to know of a good current source of needles also since I'm about sold out continue to have the occassional request from customers. Jim Cartwright Immortal Performances, Inc. jim...@earthlink.net [Original Message] From: john robles john9...@pacbell.net To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Date: 14-Apr-2010 11:49:34 PM Subject: [Phono-L] Steel needle manufacturer?? Hello all I seem to remember hearing about a needle manufacturer in the US that still makes them and has for decades..anyone remember who it is? I am seeking to buy needles wholesale. Thanks John Robles ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
[Phono-L] Hello to OTAPS friends
A hello to my friends at OTAPS - finally found my way to the phono-L list. See you soon. ~Ron Bryan, Seattle ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
