Re: [Phono-L] Ediphone or Dictaphone shaver needed
I have one that I would sell. Stands on the floor, wood case, lid like a cylinder phonograph. I live north of Annapolis MD Email me at k...@lemur.org <mailto:k...@lemur.org> Ken Danckaert > On Aug 16, 2017, at 12:59 AM, Ryan Barna via Phono-L <phono-l@oldcrank.org> > wrote: > > I'm looking to purchase either an Ediphone or a Columbia Dictaphone cylinder > shaver. Must run when powered up and have good cutting blades. I can pay for > shipping or I can pick it up within 100 miles of Allentown, Pennsylvania. > > -Ryan > ___ > Phono-L mailing list > http://post.spmailtechn.com/f/a/MXxtAsIaocE1NBqD4fs48w~~/AABF2wA~/RgRbdYFUP0EIACzJI3_uN09XA3NwY1gEAFkGc2hhcmVkYQdoZWxsb181YAw1Mi4zOS41MS4xODRCCgAA1E2UWSkYHxZSGGFyY2hpdmVAbWFpbC1hcmNoaXZlLmNvbQlRBABEEmh0dHA6Ly9waG9uby1sLm9yZ0cCe30~ > Unsubscribe: phono-l-unsubscr...@oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org Unsubscribe: phono-l-unsubscr...@oldcrank.org
Re: [Phono-L] Ken dankeart
If you are looking for Ken Danckaert. contact me at k...@lemur.org <mailto:k...@lemur.org> > On Oct 26, 2016, at 1:06 PM, zonophone2014--- via Phono-L > <phono-l@oldcrank.org> wrote: > > Rob mallett ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org Unsubscribe: phono-l-unsubscr...@oldcrank.org
Re: [Phono-L] NEW ITEMS FOR SALE
Hi Shawn, Phonoken is not me. I am kendphono. Ken Danckaert On Wed, Mar 12, 2014 at 1:14 PM, mshawnorou...@gmail.com wrote: Thank you Ken. I'll mark it sold to you. I can ship it priority to a US address, with insurance for 8.35. So the total would be $113.35. Shoot me your address and I'll get it boxed up and mark it sold. Shawn Michael Shawn O'Rourke 248 915 0954 From: phono...@aol.com Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2014 11:44 AM To: Antique Phonograph List Not sure my reply was received. I would like to buy the reproducer. Please send total due and your mailing address. Thanks Ken Ogden -Original Message- From: phonoken phono...@aol.com To: phono-l phono-l@oldcrank.org Sent: Wed, Mar 12, 2014 10:03 am Subject: Re: [Phono-L] NEW ITEMS FOR SALE I'll take the Model H reproducer. Please provide total due and your mailing address. Thanks Ken Ogden -Original Message- From: mshawnorourke mshawnorou...@gmail.com To: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org Sent: Wed, Mar 12, 2014 9:19 am Subject: [Phono-L] NEW ITEMS FOR SALE EDISON MODEL H: A very nice Edison model H reproducer. This one retains most of its original green stain. These reproducers were stained Green to allow the owners to distinguish between the Edison H and the Edison C. This one plays wonderfully. I replaced the limit loop which was missing when I received it. The original jewel is nice on this one. It easily fits in and out of the carriage. This would be a nice reproducer to add to your Edison four minute machine. PRICE: $105.00. EDISON LONG CASE HOME BOTTOM CASE: This is the bottom only to an Edison Home Long Case model A. It has a very nice original decal and much better than average original finish. The bottom board has the common split observed in most Edison Home cases. This could be a nice upgrade for a case bottom that has been refinished or has a less than desirable decal. It is a nice case bottom. PRICE: $95.00 HAWTHORN AND SHEBLE CRANE. It is suitable and will work well on an Edison Home, Standard or Triumph. As well, it works on Columbia machines, certainly and A or an N. Being very adjustable, it will work with most smaller, as well as most larger horns (and all in between)This one is in as found condition and could use a little cleaning up. It will make a nice crane for someone who wants an all original example for their machine. PRICE: $165.00. Pictures available on request. Shipping and insurance only are additional. I will pay for the cost of a well packaged item. No PayPal, checks only. Please contact: mshawnorou...@gmail.com with interest. Michael Shawn O'Rourke 248 915 0954 ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
Re: [Phono-L] trolling motors from phono motors
You should be able to see it at: http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/248/p7020017a.jpg/ http://imageshack.us/a/img593/7617/p7020016a.jpg http://imageshack.us/a/img217/763/p7020015a.jpg http://imageshack.us/a/img528/3763/p7020014a.jpg http://imageshack.us/a/img202/5856/p7020013a.jpg http://imageshack.us/a/img841/9639/p7020012a.jpg http://imageshack.us/a/img11/2479/p7020011a.jpg http://imageshack.us/a/img38/2286/p7020010a.jpg Let me know if you can't get them Ken On Tue, Oct 30, 2012 at 9:54 AM, Paul Christenzen pic...@gmail.com wrote: And then post it somewhere we all can see. Ron L'Herault wrote: I don't want to own one but I'd dearly love a pic or three for my presentation. e-mail to lherault at bu dot edu Ron L -Original Message- From: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-bounces@**oldcrank.orgphono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org] On Behalf Of Ken Danckaert Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2012 8:35 AM To: Antique Phonograph List Subject: Re: [Phono-L] trolling motors from phono motors I have one of these that I'm willing to sell. It is in a nice homemade box with latches. It is stamped on the inside with BUILD FOR CLARENCE BLACK BYE ABELL. The label is on the deck and says RCA Victor Model 012 Portable Phonograph. If anyone is interested, contact me off list at k...@lemur.org Ken Danckaert On Mon, Oct 29, 2012 at 11:20 PM, Vinyl Visions vinyl.visi...@live.comwrote: Thanks, Ron for the explanation... Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2012 12:57:02 -0700 From: dda...@sbcglobal.net To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Subject: Re: [Phono-L] trolling motors from phono motors I think that makes sense. I live on the St Clair River which flows out of Lake Huron and into Lake St Clair. The Detroit River flows out of Lake St. Clair. I can't believe with how popular those were in the older days that I still can find an intact Victrola around here! Dave __**__ From: Ron L'Heraultlhera...@bu.edu To: Antique Phonograph Listphono-l@oldcrank.org Sent: Mon, October 29, 2012 2:53:11 PM Subject: Re: [Phono-L] trolling motors from phono motors Here's what one website said: Basically, handlining involves using lead weights and wire line too heavy to use with conventional fishing tackle to get lures down in conditions where water flow and radically varying depths conspire to frustrate common slow-trolling techniques. It's a tactic pioneered by self proclaimed river rats fishing for walleyes forced by the current to hug the bottom as they migrate through the Detroit River each spring. Early anglers actually pirated parts from vintage, hand-cranked Victorola phonograph players to construct reels capable of handling the wire line and the weights the slow-trolling technique required. The trolling motor has nothing to do with powering a boat, as I thought it did at first. It is just a way to reel in/out a heavy line and weights. They mounted them off the sides of the boat and for al I know, probably were propelling the boat with oars. Ron L -Original Message- From: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-bounces@**oldcrank.org phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org] On Behalf Of Vinyl Visions Sent: Monday, October 29, 2012 12:09 PM To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Subject: Re: [Phono-L] trolling motors from phono motors Can you guys explain what, exactly, is the purpose or advantage of using one of these contraptions? When I go trolling, I use a boat with a motor and rod reel... I can't see how you would use these. I never realized that a phonograph could be used as fishing gear - is this just a cumbersome version of a modern reel? Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2012 08:39:01 -0700 From: dda...@sbcglobal.net To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Subject: Re: [Phono-L] trolling motors from phono motors Hi Ron, I have never found one with an intact governor. I think it would rotate too slowly with it still attached. Without it, the angler can control the speed by allowing the line to slip through the fingers faster or slower. When i get some time I will send you a photo. I have a couple that I have not torn apart yet. Dave __**__ From: Ron L'Heraultlhera...@bu.edu To: Antique Phonograph Listphono-l@oldcrank.org Sent: Mon, October 29, 2012 10:50:58 AM Subject: Re: [Phono-L] trolling motors from phono motors I believe that removing the governors is part of what makes them work well, although a couple of pictures I've seen show governors in the motors. I suppose it is possible that they are there but not engaged in the gear train too. Can you send a picture of one you have? Thanks, Ron L -Original Message- From: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-bounces@**oldcrank.org phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org] On Behalf Of David Dazer Sent: Monday, October 29, 2012 5:50 AM To: Antique Phonograph List Subject: Re: [Phono-L
Re: [Phono-L] trolling motors from phono motors
I have one of these that I'm willing to sell. It is in a nice homemade box with latches. It is stamped on the inside with BUILD FOR CLARENCE BLACK BYE ABELL. The label is on the deck and says RCA Victor Model 012 Portable Phonograph. If anyone is interested, contact me off list at k...@lemur.org Ken Danckaert On Mon, Oct 29, 2012 at 11:20 PM, Vinyl Visions vinyl.visi...@live.comwrote: Thanks, Ron for the explanation... Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2012 12:57:02 -0700 From: dda...@sbcglobal.net To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Subject: Re: [Phono-L] trolling motors from phono motors I think that makes sense. I live on the St Clair River which flows out of Lake Huron and into Lake St Clair. The Detroit River flows out of Lake St. Clair. I can't believe with how popular those were in the older days that I still can find an intact Victrola around here! Dave From: Ron L'Herault lhera...@bu.edu To: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org Sent: Mon, October 29, 2012 2:53:11 PM Subject: Re: [Phono-L] trolling motors from phono motors Here's what one website said: Basically, handlining involves using lead weights and wire line too heavy to use with conventional fishing tackle to get lures down in conditions where water flow and radically varying depths conspire to frustrate common slow-trolling techniques. It's a tactic pioneered by self proclaimed river rats fishing for walleyes forced by the current to hug the bottom as they migrate through the Detroit River each spring. Early anglers actually pirated parts from vintage, hand-cranked Victorola phonograph players to construct reels capable of handling the wire line and the weights the slow-trolling technique required. The trolling motor has nothing to do with powering a boat, as I thought it did at first. It is just a way to reel in/out a heavy line and weights. They mounted them off the sides of the boat and for al I know, probably were propelling the boat with oars. Ron L -Original Message- From: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org] On Behalf Of Vinyl Visions Sent: Monday, October 29, 2012 12:09 PM To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Subject: Re: [Phono-L] trolling motors from phono motors Can you guys explain what, exactly, is the purpose or advantage of using one of these contraptions? When I go trolling, I use a boat with a motor and rod reel... I can't see how you would use these. I never realized that a phonograph could be used as fishing gear - is this just a cumbersome version of a modern reel? Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2012 08:39:01 -0700 From: dda...@sbcglobal.net To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Subject: Re: [Phono-L] trolling motors from phono motors Hi Ron, I have never found one with an intact governor. I think it would rotate too slowly with it still attached. Without it, the angler can control the speed by allowing the line to slip through the fingers faster or slower. When i get some time I will send you a photo. I have a couple that I have not torn apart yet. Dave From: Ron L'Herault lhera...@bu.edu To: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org Sent: Mon, October 29, 2012 10:50:58 AM Subject: Re: [Phono-L] trolling motors from phono motors I believe that removing the governors is part of what makes them work well, although a couple of pictures I've seen show governors in the motors. I suppose it is possible that they are there but not engaged in the gear train too. Can you send a picture of one you have? Thanks, Ron L -Original Message- From: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org] On Behalf Of David Dazer Sent: Monday, October 29, 2012 5:50 AM To: Antique Phonograph List Subject: Re: [Phono-L] trolling motors from phono motors I pick them up around here for around $20. The governors are always gone, but the springs and gears come in handy Dave Dazer From: Ron L'Herault lhera...@bu.edu To: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org; phonol...@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sun, October 28, 2012 9:20:48 PM Subject: [Phono-L] trolling motors from phono motors I'm looking for information about the practice of turning a spring wound phono motor into a trolling motor/line winder. Ever see on, build one, use one? Got pictures? Thanks, Ron L ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list
Re: [Phono-L] Vehicles
You know that Emile Berliner drove a Stanley Steamer. No batteries to worry about! Ken Danckaert On Mon, Mar 8, 2010 at 6:22 PM, jerry f bacon artemp...@sbcglobal.netwrote: I wonder if a Baker Electric could be fitted with these new batteries? I don't have one. Cheers from Dallas,Tx Jerry F Bacon ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
[Phono-L] Coin N scam on Ebay
For anyone that is thinking of bidding on the Coin N currently on Ebay, think again. the URL is : http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=320484058642 I asked the seller to post additional photos. take a close look at the pictures. they show two different machines. It sure looks like a scam to me. Ken Danckaert ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
[Phono-L] Trouble Getting Parts in the Mail from Canada?
I emailed him and talked to him on the phone. He basically said it was not his problem. After that I decided not to do business with him. It really doesn't matter because I do a lot of work on coin ops and generally make my own parts anyway. I only went to him because he had some parts made that I needed and I would not have had to make them. So I just made them anyway. Ken On Wed, Apr 15, 2009 at 3:29 PM, George victr...@triton.net wrote: Have you tried contacting him by email. My shipments from him are always delayed, sometimes for weeks, until I've send him an email. George - Original Message - From: Jeffry Young, D.O. To: Antique Phonograph List Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2009 1:30 PM Subject: RE: [Phono-L] Trouble Getting Parts in the Mail from Canada? Has anyone had trouble with getting parts mailed from Mirek Stehlik in Canada? I recently purchased parts from him. I chose not to insure them, and sure enough..., no parts! Lost in the mail? Just wondering if I am the only one that this has happened to, or if it is a common occurrence? Thanks, Jeff Young Wisconsin ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org From jay.horenst...@gmail.com Thu Apr 16 13:53:25 2009 From: jay.horenst...@gmail.com (Jay Horenstein) Date: Thu Apr 16 13:53:48 2009 Subject: [Phono-L] Dr. Philip Peterson Message-ID: 49e79ad5.1997600a.3ef6.2...@mx.google.com I don?t mean to stir up any trouble, but I?m curious as to who this infamous Dr. Philip Peterson is? No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.557 / Virus Database: 270.11.58/2062 - Release Date: 4/16/2009 8:12 AM From phonost...@aol.com Thu Apr 16 13:52:42 2009 From: phonost...@aol.com (phonost...@aol.com) Date: Thu Apr 16 13:59:06 2009 Subject: [Phono-L] Edison Historic site??? Message-ID: be9.4e294db0.3718f...@aol.com _http://www.nps.gov/edis/faqs.htm_ (http://www.nps.gov/edis/faqs.htm) According to this web site, Glenmont, Edison?s home, is open to the public, but the laboratory remains closed. No opening date has been set. Joan In a message dated 4/14/2009 4:05:58 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, edisonphonowo...@hotmail.com writes: Edison historic site question. Does anyone know when the Edison historic site will open, Just curious. It will probably be a long time before I go out east again. _ Rediscover Hotmail?: Now available on your iPhone or BlackBerry http://windowslive.com/RediscoverHotmail?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_Rediscover_Mob ile1_042009___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
[Phono-L] Amberola 30 erratic speed
Your problem is in the mainspring. It needs to be pulled and ALL the old lubrication removed. 40 steel wool and wd40 will do that. Relube and put the spring back in. That will get rid of the problem. DON'T soak it in kerosene or some other short cut to cleaning. The old stuff has got to come off the spring. Ken Danckaert On Mon, Sep 1, 2008 at 12:50 PM, Ron L'Herault lherault at bu.edu wrote: OK, gang, it is time to tap into the lists' wisdom. I'm working on an Amberola 30. The hook came unsoldered and the reproducer needed a rebuild. Those two easy repairs (the spring was in the case)completed, I tested the phonograph and found that the speed is a bit erratic. It will sound nice, then slow just a bit then return to speed for a while only to slow again. The carriage moves easily and the horn bobbles and rotates as it should. The governor is lubricated and the pad has been oiled. There is no evidence of crud or damage to the governor disk. There were a few teeth on the large hear that had a bit of damage but a bit of judicious filing has cured the noise the damage created, and besides, the speed variation is more random than the cycle of the gear noise. I'm thinking that the mainspring may need to be removed, cleaned and re-lubricated but I thought I might see if there is anything else I missed before tearing it apart. Thanks, Ron L ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
[Phono-L] Amberola 80 on ebay
Does this ebay auction look odd to anyone? The seller is in Puerto Rico and has been on Ebay since Oct 07. He has a feedback of 16, all of which is as a buyer. He has no feedback as a seller. The three auctions he has up are for expensive items. Has anyone seen this machine on ebay before? Ken Danckaert 320280590399
[Phono-L] Looking for a copy of By the Light of the Silvery Moon
I'm looking for a 2m cylinder of By the Light of the Silvery Moon by Ada Jones. I don't know if this was ever put out on an Indestructible Cylinder. If it was, I would prefer that. However, since beggars cannot be choosy, I'll take whatever is available. If you have a copy of this that you can spare, please contact me off list. Thanks, Ken Danckaert
[Phono-L] OTHER WAYS for Possible Ebay fraudulent listing
Another word on passwords. Don't use a name spelled backward. The dictionary attacks will find those too. A word in another language is also no good. A lot of people will try to be smart by substituting a 3 for an E or a 1 for and I, etc. The programs also look for this substitution. It is best to have a minimum of eight characters and a mixture of letters, numbers and special characters (@#$$%^). Everything else has been covered pretty well. Regards, Ken Danckaert On Tue, Mar 25, 2008 at 3:20 AM, Norman Bruderhofer phon...@cylinder.de wrote: Exactly, but be sure to use a -secure- password. No names, bdays or so but a nice and cryptic style. I bet that most hijacked accounts were 'protected' by too simple passwords that could be easily determined by using brute force attacks (dictionaries). It really makes sense to put attention to that little security bar. And always make a password unique, never use it twice (e.g. eBay acct paypal). At 23:25 24.03.2008, you wrote: Like I said, change your passwords regularly. From ander...@tampabay.rr.com Tue Mar 25 05:29:15 2008 From: ander...@tampabay.rr.com (Steve Andersen) Date: Tue Mar 25 05:29:27 2008 Subject: [Phono-L] edison h home parts needed In-Reply-To: 8206f8bf7c1b471e8b080e56f4d6f...@radiopc References: 8206f8bf7c1b471e8b080e56f4d6f...@radiopc Message-ID: bacc821e-f326-476a-9228-5d12e0d5c...@tampabay.rr.com William, Send me pics of what you need. I might have something. ander...@tampabay.rr.com Steve On Mar 25, 2008, at 12:36 AM, WILLIAM SHENETTE wrote: I am looking for some edison D home parts for my D standard 2 4 Minuite player I have a page that tells shows pictures what i need i will be most happy to email it if anyone can help me with this. I know i do need a mandrell possibly a feed screw and the pice that i can oly explain by the picture wich has a number Please include in subject edison D home parts so i know what this is in reguards to . also dont for get priceing many sincere thanks from William shenette ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
[Phono-L] A true hybrid phonograph
Many have posted unusual phonographs from Ebay. Take a look at Ebay item number 110222950917 . Ken Danckaert From klin...@modex.com Fri Feb 15 19:10:17 2008 From: klin...@modex.com (Bill Klinger) Date: Fri Feb 15 19:10:37 2008 Subject: [Phono-L] Reminder: ARSC Research Grants Program Message-ID: 000901c87049$76213370$5885b...@billqbszr49l7m The following message has been posted by the Outreach Committee of the Association for Recorded Sound Collections (ARSC). If you have any questions, please click on the link or e-mail address below. --- ARSC RESEARCH GRANTS PROGRAM --- Deadline for receipt of applications: February 29, 2008 The Research Grants Program of the Association for Recorded Sound Collections supports scholarship and publication in the fields of sound recording research and audio preservation. (This program is separate from the ARSC Preservation Grants Program, which encourages and supports the preservation of historically significant sound recordings of Western Art Music.) Project categories eligible for consideration include: discography, bibliography, historical studies of the sound recording industry and its products, and any other subject likely to increase the public's understanding and appreciation of the lasting importance of recorded sound. ARSC encourages applications from individuals whose research forms part of an academic program at the master's or doctoral level. ARSC members and non-members alike are eligible for grants in amounts up to $1000. Grant funds can be used to underwrite clerical, editorial, and travel expenses. Funds may not be used to purchase capital equipment or recordings, to reimburse applicants for work already performed, or to support projects that form part of a paid job. Grant recipients must submit documentation of their expenses, and all grant funds must be disbursed within eighteen months of the grant award. Grant recipients are required to submit brief descriptions of their projects for publication in the ARSC Journal, and are encouraged to submit articles about their projects, for possible publication in the Journal. Research Grant Applications shall include: -- a summary of the project (one page maximum), with samples of the work, if possible; -- a budget covering the entire project, highlighting the expenses the ARSC Grant will cover (one page maximum); -- a curriculum vitae; and -- an indication of the prospects for publication or other public dissemination of the project results. Grant awards will be announced at the annual business meeting of ARSC, after having been approved at the spring meeting of the ARSC Board of Directors. Send applications to: Richard Warren Jr., ARSC Grants Committee Chair, Historical Sound Recordings, Yale University Library, P.O. Box 208240, New Haven, CT 06520-8240, USA. Applications for the next grant cycle must be received by February 29, 2008. For more information, visit: http://www.arsc-audio.org/researchgrants.html. Questions about the Research Grants Program should be directed to Mr. Warren at richard.war...@yale.edu. The Association for Recorded Sound Collections is a nonprofit organization dedicated to the preservation and study of sound recordings -- in all genres of music and speech, in all formats, and from all periods. ARSC is unique in bringing together private individuals and institutional professionals -- everyone with a serious interest in recorded sound.
[Phono-L] NEED A PART
Are you looking for the tonearm by itself or the tonearm with the base that mounts to the deck? I have a complete assembly with an original tonearm and a base that I made to the original dimensions. It has an original reproducer that has been rebuilt. If you are interested in it, contact me off list at k...@lemur.org. I will only sell it as a complete assembly. It is a great piece. Ken Danckaert zonophone2...@aol.com wrote: HI ALL I AM LOOKING FOR A TONEARM FOR MY REGINAPHONE 240 DOES ANYONE HAVE ONE OR ONE I CAN USE A PATTERN THANKS ZONO ** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
[Phono-L] transportation available
Hi Bob, Any idea when the Hexaphone is being shipped. We are leaving for Michigan next Monday for a week. Also, when you are over this way are you going to pick up your music box? I have all the measurements for making the Phono parts. The tonearm is unique to that style machine. I have found out that a pattern would cost $500 for the tonearm. In lieu of that I have a Davis tonearm that is close in style that I am modifying to use as a pattern. It will destroy my tonearm but should be quite acceptable for that machine. It will not be done by the time you are in the area but I will not need the machine to make it. Ken Bob Johnson wrote: Sometime around the middle of April I will be transporting some phonographs from Oregon to PA. If anyone has a need to get items from the west coast to the east coast or vice versa, get ahold of me. Bob Johnson bjohn...@mrvictor.com ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
[Phono-L] Whaddya think it will Pay Pal?
Don't rely too much on PayPal. I know of one instance where PayPal did pay after a lot of work by the injured party, BUT Pay Pal terminated both the buyer and the seller until they got money back from someone. They didn't care about the injured party not being responsible for the problem of destruction during shipping due to poor packing. Somehow this sounds like ebay! Does anyone have other experience with trying to get payment out of PayPal? Ken D. Rich wrote: What you have to remember is that better than 90% of the PayPal users never even read the user agreement and the rules. And, even worse of the 10% or so who do read them probably 50% do not understand them. PayPal provides excellent buyer insurance when using PayPal through eBay and is very convenient for the seller. There is no real reason to get bitten by a SPAM eBay or PayPal email. If it sounds too good to be true, its a scam. Turn down the greed, learn how the computer functions, and you will be OK. Rich From tvene...@optonline.net Wed Feb 14 07:06:43 2007 From: tvene...@optonline.net (Tim Venetis) Date: Wed Feb 14 07:20:49 2007 Subject: [Phono-L] Whaddya think it will Pay Pal? References: 20070214140415.55c32af...@mail.intellitechcomputing.com 45d32355.2010...@lemur.org Message-ID: 002d01c75049$bd4467c0$439a5...@mycomputer yes I did I bought a cell phone and the seller never shipped. Paypal told me unless they have a feedback of 50 or more getting money back is no guarantee. I complained and they said my case is closed and that they would make there best effort to refund my money. I then went to the bank and canciled the payment to paypal. I got a call from a colection agency and I sent email from paypal to the agency from paypal saying that I won the case but there was no guarantee because the seller had no money in their account. I finally got the rest of my money back from paypal because I had some in my account that was used for the payment of the phone, sorry for the long story. - Original Message - From: Ken Danckaert k...@lemur.org To: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2007 9:57 AM Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Whaddya think it will Pay Pal? Don't rely too much on PayPal. I know of one instance where PayPal did pay after a lot of work by the injured party, BUT Pay Pal terminated both the buyer and the seller until they got money back from someone. They didn't care about the injured party not being responsible for the problem of destruction during shipping due to poor packing. Somehow this sounds like ebay! Does anyone have other experience with trying to get payment out of PayPal? Ken D. Rich wrote: What you have to remember is that better than 90% of the PayPal users never even read the user agreement and the rules. And, even worse of the 10% or so who do read them probably 50% do not understand them. PayPal provides excellent buyer insurance when using PayPal through eBay and is very convenient for the seller. There is no real reason to get bitten by a SPAM eBay or PayPal email. If it sounds too good to be true, its a scam. Turn down the greed, learn how the computer functions, and you will be OK. Rich ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
[Phono-L] Whaddya think it will Pay Pal?
Since you appear to be such an expertl, I refer you to the pictures of the badly demolished Columbia AS. That will show you the Injured parties side and the packing of the machine as received. You tell me who is he said and she said! Rich wrote: I consider these eBay, PayPal, common carrier, or whoever boned me stories to be little more than one sided urban legends and of little merit. Now if I am provided with all of the correspondence from ALL sides I will consider it. This is no more or less than an other adaptation of the old he said, she said. These stories belong on the Art Bell program. On Wed, 14 Feb 2007 09:57:25 -0500, Ken Danckaert wrote: Don't rely too much on PayPal. I know of one instance where PayPal did pay after a lot of work by the injured party, BUT Pay Pal terminated both the buyer and the seller until they got money back from someone. They didn't care about the injured party not being responsible for the problem of destruction during shipping due to poor packing. Somehow this sounds like ebay! Does anyone have other experience with trying to get payment out of PayPal? Ken D. Rich wrote: What you have to remember is that better than 90% of the PayPal users never even read the user agreement and the rules. And, even worse of the 10% or so who do read them probably 50% do not understand them. PayPal provides excellent buyer insurance when using PayPal through eBay and is very convenient for the seller. There is no real reason to get bitten by a SPAM eBay or PayPal email. If it sounds too good to be true, its a scam. Turn down the greed, learn how the computer functions, and you will be OK. Rich ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
[Phono-L] Ken D's restoration
Thanks to all for the nice comments. We are all part of a wonderful hobby and our interests are as varied as the machines and music that we all enjoy. Thank goodness that we all enjoy different aspects of it because it will ensure that a broad range of items will be saved for the future. Myself, I enjoy the mechanics and the ingenuity of the early inventors. I also enjoy different music types from different times. Someone posted that you would not put this kind of effort into an Amberola 30. I don?t agree. If it was the first machine I ever bought or had some other sentimental value, I would go to extremes to make it right. I might not try to piece together a badly broken lid when there is a ready supply of other lids around but I would bring it back to life. You don?t have much choice on the rare machines. There are not many spare parts around for them. A good friend once told me that I can?t save every phonograph when he saw what I did to restore machines that came in for repair. I always assume that they are someone else?s treasure and have meaning for them. My time spent on them always far exceeds the monetary cost to them. I can?t save them all but I have saved a lot of them and, God willing, I?ll save a lot in the future. Between my efforts and similar efforts by a lot of other like you, these machines will out live us. Tim and George have provided a wonderful service to all of us with their books. Allen K. has made literature and patent information available. Others, too many to mention, have preserved other aspects of phonograph related information. There is a wealth of information out there that has not been made available to us as a whole. It would be great if there was a repository on line where we could place documents for others to read. One such document is one that I have from the Franklin Institute that certifies Berliner as the inventor of the Gramophone. It describes in detail how he made his records and the machines necessary to play them back. Many would enjoy reading something like this if there was a repository to get it from. Maybe one of you can create one. Any takers? Ken Danckaert
[Phono-L] Columbia AS reborn
Awhile back one of the members posted some pictures of a Columbia AS that had been demolished in shipping due to virtually no packing in the box when shipped. The first two URLs show the machine as it was received from the Post Office. Most people would have given up at that point. It was given to me for restoration. Restoration did not include any repainting or refinishing. There were a number of coin mechanism parts that were missing and had to be made. The top casting that was damaged beyond hope was replaced with another one of the same vintage. As you can see, the signboard is new and I am currently working to match the stains for appropriate color. I thought that you would like to see that even what appears to be a hopeless machine can be brought back to life. The URLs show the before and after for this very nice machine. Ken Danckaert http://img106.imageshack.us/img106/3026/phono4hi7.jpg http://img245.imageshack.us/img245/673/phono3ek6.jpg http://img374.imageshack.us/img374/2272/casetopgl4.jpg http://img50.imageshack.us/img50/5909/mechfrontvw0.jpg http://img116.imageshack.us/img116/5372/caseworksfrontqx3.jpg http://img265.imageshack.us/img265/8151/caseworksopen1zi9.jpg http://img47.imageshack.us/img47/5899/casemechsignboarduq2.jpg
[Phono-L] Protected Bidding on ebay!
It seems to me that it will not do much good to discuss this only on Phono-L. You all need to state your displeasure to Ebay itself. That is not an easy task since Ebay makes it very difficult to send something directly to them. If anyone knows a good way to send them your comments please share it with the rest of us. I have commented on the new policy on one of the chat boards but there is no way to know if Ebay pays much attention to that. I make heavy use of the bidder info to protect myself as both a buyer and seller. Ebay has shown themselves to be incapable of protecting the buyers and sellers from the abuses that have been discussed here. I believe the policy is purely profit based and they could care less about the rest of us. Unless they can guarantee protection to buyers and sellers from the abuses that are rampent on Ebay, then they should not remove about the only way we have to protect ourselves. Ken Walt wrote: Rich, This concern may have been best addressed by Michael (Funk) last evening. He wrote in part: check out some of the ebay discussions boards on this subject. Those boards, despite some of the irrational and subjective peanut-gallery noisemakers you will see, are the best place to find others who, probably like me, you, and so many other genuinely responsible and decent folks in Phono-L, really do have a focused and genuine concern for how these changes affect eBay users in general. Now...If eBay were to implement a truly democratic process rather than a dictatorship, I would vote for Loran Hughes to be president. Hey...Maybe that would be a good fundraiser for the coming years: A bumper sticker that reads, Loran Hughes is MY President. But in the meantime, don't forget what Inspector Harry Callahan (a.k.a Clint Eastwood - one of the guys who used to be on the bumper sticker that we are going to put Loran on) said in the 1973 movie, Magnum Force: A man's got to know his limitations. Walt From rich-m...@octoxol.com Wed Jan 17 10:48:58 2007 From: rich-m...@octoxol.com (Rich) Date: Wed Jan 17 10:49:09 2007 Subject: [Phono-L] Protected Bidding on ebay! In-Reply-To: 45ae6a03.5010...@lemur.org Message-ID: 20070117184900.c61c2292...@mail.intellitechcomputing.com The bidder information is available to the seller. It is ONLY converted to Bidder 1 etc. for the other bidders. I might be missing something here, so please clarify, if you would. What exactly does knowing the bidders actual eBay user IDs provide to you as regards protection that Bidder 1 etc. does not? Rich On Wed, 17 Jan 2007 13:25:07 -0500, Ken Danckaert wrote: It seems to me that it will not do much good to discuss this only on Phono-L. You all need to state your displeasure to Ebay itself. That is not an easy task since Ebay makes it very difficult to send something directly to them. If anyone knows a good way to send them your comments please share it with the rest of us. I have commented on the new policy on one of the chat boards but there is no way to know if Ebay pays much attention to that. I make heavy use of the bidder info to protect myself as both a buyer and seller. Ebay has shown themselves to be incapable of protecting the buyers and sellers from the abuses that have been discussed here. I believe the policy is purely profit based and they could care less about the rest of us. Unless they can guarantee protection to buyers and sellers from the abuses that are rampent on Ebay, then they should not remove about the only way we have to protect ourselves. Ken
[Phono-L] Protected Bidding on ebay!
I have seen a number of instances where I was able to determine a shill bidder (in this case I'll call them a ftiend of the seller) where they are bidding on items fron a particular seller. It usually has nothing to do with the category of the item. In won auction they are bidding on a phonograph item, in another they are bidding onb an expensive doll, in another they are bidding on a gernerator -- all from the same seller. The odds of this kind of interaction is extremely high. I do this by researching the high several bidders in an auction that I'm interested in. This is valuable to me indetermining whether to bid on a particular auction or on auctions from a particular seller. If someone is using a friend to up the bids on there items, chances are they will not be on the same server and will not have the same IP. Seeing these relationships lets me sort these people out. Another use that I use that information for is to track bidders that have similar interests to me. I can track items they are bidding on. If they have found something that I also want, I'll bid on it. Some may not like this , but it is an auction and everything is open to everyone equally. In other cases seeing shat other bidders are bidding on might lead me to a seller that lists items in a manner that I would not have found it. Ken Rich wrote: The bidder information is available to the seller. It is ONLY converted to Bidder 1 etc. for the other bidders. I might be missing something here, so please clarify, if you would. What exactly does knowing the bidders actual eBay user IDs provide to you as regards protection that Bidder 1 etc. does not? Rich On Wed, 17 Jan 2007 13:25:07 -0500, Ken Danckaert wrote: It seems to me that it will not do much good to discuss this only on Phono-L. You all need to state your displeasure to Ebay itself. That is not an easy task since Ebay makes it very difficult to send something directly to them. If anyone knows a good way to send them your comments please share it with the rest of us. I have commented on the new policy on one of the chat boards but there is no way to know if Ebay pays much attention to that. I make heavy use of the bidder info to protect myself as both a buyer and seller. Ebay has shown themselves to be incapable of protecting the buyers and sellers from the abuses that have been discussed here. I believe the policy is purely profit based and they could care less about the rest of us. Unless they can guarantee protection to buyers and sellers from the abuses that are rampent on Ebay, then they should not remove about the only way we have to protect ourselves. Ken ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
[Phono-L] Phono L could be great...
I was glad to see all the response to my posting. Don't get me wrong, I was not criticizing Loren on how she keeps this going. I know it is a LOT of work. I'm used to a lot of personal involvement with other collectors. I know them personally, have seen many their collections and know their needs and help when I can. I have been collecting since 1970 but still know relatively few collectors well. My comment about good old boys (didn't mean to make it gender specific) was not meant in a negative manner. What I meant was that a lot of you seemed to know each other quite well. You know what each other collects and their interests. Loran indicates that many sign on with first names and that is fine and eventually I'll get to know you all. Maybe I'm in too much of a hurry. That said, it would still be nice to know more about individuals. Most phono people that I have met are pretty nice people. I'm just anxious to know more. I tried to get on the other list a couple of times and never heard from them so I have written it off. Just entering the group it is difficult to know what has been discussed in the past. I know there is the achive but that is a lot to go through so I will undoubtedly bring up old topics in posts. Anyway, I'm glad to be here. My two finger typing will limit my posts. This is already long for me. Someone asked about more info on me. Well, I'm Ken Danckaert and live near Annapolis Maryland. My collection is mainly outside horn machines and music boxes (limited by space available). Among the more interesting machines are a Rosenfield, Edison A450, Miraphone, Edison Excelsior, Columbia Coin N, Columbia S, Edison Standard Polyphone, Columbia SG, Edison Eclipse, and a bunch of 1901 vintage outside horn machines. I do a lot of restoration work at a turtles pace. I'm currently working on two Edison Eclipses, three square cased Multiphones, two Coin Ns, and a couple of music boxes. I do my own machining, casting and small part nickel plating. Feel free to visit. This is already too long. Have a nice day. Ken Danckaert Severna Park, MD
[Phono-L] packing a horn
Allen has a good idea with the round shipping barrel. Another option is round cement forms that are available at building supply places. Some stores will cut it and let you buy only what you need. They come in different diameters and the length can be cut to suit your horn. You will need to cut a wood disc for both ends. These can be screwed on to the tubes. Ken Danckaert Severna Park, MD In a message dated 2/5/2006 11:11:56 AM Eastern Standard Time, andy at popyrus.com http://oldcrank.org/mailman/listinfo/phono-l writes: / // The wood horn for the Columbia BI I wrote in about yesterday had a 3/8 // / * look into those sturdy shipping barrels available at moving companies (metal lid at each end) - very strong walls and circular to boot. Less weight than wood crate... allen www.phonobooks.com www.leofrankcase.com
