Re: [Phono-L] My membership in the PhonoL list
It's legit, Tom. It looks like something is going on with Phono-L emails getting to MSN. I'll go in and re-enable you. Regards, Loran On Sat, Apr 26, 2014 at 10:57 AM, Tom Jordan wrote: > Loran, > I received what looks like a spam or phishing e-mail saying that my > membership in the group had been disabled due to excessive bounces. I > didn't open that e-mail yet. Can you tell me if it was legitimate or if I > should respond or delete it? I enjoy my membership in the group and would > like to retain it. > Thank you. > Tom > > ___ > Phono-L mailing list > http://phono-l.org > ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
Re: [Phono-L] Record auction #141 closing soon
Shawn, it was posted to Phono-L. :) Loran On Tue, Mar 18, 2014 at 4:02 PM, Shawn ORourke wrote: > Tom, didn't you say you removed me? Shawn > On Mar 18, 2014 4:04 PM, "Hawthorn's Antique Audio" < > hawth...@thoseoldrecords.com> wrote: > > > Hi Everyone, > > > > Just a quick reminder - Auction #141 - "Music For Rainy Days" closes on > > March 21. If you have already placed your bids, we thank you very much. > > If you have not, then there is still time to do so, but don't delay too > > long. You may bid by email, fax or phone to insure that we receive your > > bids before the deadline. > > > > If you need another copy of the auction catalog, let us know (off list, > > please) and we'll send you a PDF copy by return email. Or, you can just > > visit our website and click on the link to "view current auction." > You'll > > also find a link to the Picture Gallery on the "What's New" page. > > > > Thanks! > > > > Tom Hawthorn > > Hawthorn's Antique Audio > > www.thoseoldrecords.com > > hawth...@thoseoldrecords.com > > (916) 773-4727 > > ___ > > Phono-L mailing list > > http://phono-l.org > > > ___ > Phono-L mailing list > http://phono-l.org > ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
Re: [Phono-L] Sat. Night Chat
It was on Phono-L's end. The router crapped out. On Sun, Feb 23, 2014 at 11:53 AM, john robles wrote: > Wierd stuff going on. > > > > > > From: Bob Maffit > To: 'Antique Phonograph List' > Sent: Sunday, February 23, 2014 11:42 AM > Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Sat. Night Chat > > > John: > > I was wondering myself, as I posted my inquiry early yesterday morning and > as of last night, no responding posts. This morning I have a few and if I > am > premature in this response, I am moving up the inbox to read the real-time > sequence. > > later > > Bob > > -Original Message- > From: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org] > On > Behalf Of john robles > Sent: Sunday, February 23, 2014 5:45 AM > To: Antique Phonograph List > Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Sat. Night Chat > > I thought maybe the list was dead or something! I've tried to post a couple > of things and I get a rejection notice. Have I been black balled? :-) > John Robles > > > > > > From: Ron L'Herault > To: phonol...@yahoogroups.com; 'Antique Phonograph List' > > Sent: Saturday, February 22, 2014 6:15 PM > Subject: [Phono-L] Sat. Night Chat > > > It would appear that the chat page is down tonight. Rats.It has been > fairly quiet of late on the chat but it is still fun to chat with other > collectors. > > Ron L > > ___ > Phono-L mailing list > http://phono-l.org > ___ > Phono-L mailing list > http://phono-l.org > > ___ > Phono-L mailing list > http://phono-l.org > ___ > Phono-L mailing list > http://phono-l.org > ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
Re: [Phono-L] Change in email address
Sorry for the late response on this! I've switched you over to the new address. Regards, Loran On Thu, Jan 2, 2014 at 10:21 AM, Brad abell wrote: > > Hi- Not sure what steps I need to take-- I am changing email addresses-- > I would like to apply a new address to my phono-L account- > > Old address is out...@aol.com--NEW address is outune...@verizon.net > Please advise re; what needs to be done- Thanks!! > Brad Abell > ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
Re: [Phono-L] Thank you - not phono related
Hodgkin's lymphoma. Had surgery/chemo/radiation. I caught pneumocystis during chemo and almost bought the farm. I was in my early 30's and active duty Air Force at the time. I stayed active duty and kept working throughout the treatment. I was able to stay in the service and took a full retirement in 1998. Loran On Tue, Nov 27, 2012 at 3:03 PM, Vinyl Visions wrote: > Congrats on the 21 yrs... hope I can say the same thing. What type did you > have? Mine was aggressive, fast growing prostate cancer at age 60. > > Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2012 14:18:12 -0800 > > From: lo...@oldcrank.com > > To: phono-l@oldcrank.org > > Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Thank you - not phono related > > > > Curt, 21 years for me. Every day is a blessing. > > > > Loran > > > > > > On Tue, Nov 27, 2012 at 12:55 PM, Vinyl Visions >wrote: > > > > > I'm a three year survivor. How many more members of the club are out > > > there?Curt > > > > Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2012 12:24:46 -0800 > > > > From: lo...@oldcrank.com > > > > To: phono-l@oldcrank.org > > > > Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Thank you - not phono related > > > > > > > > Anthony, > > > > > > > > Congratulations and welcome to the survivor's club! I'm glad you > decided > > > to > > > > stick around :) > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > Loran > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 10:00 PM, Anthony Sinclair < > sa...@yoaa.com.au > > > >wrote: > > > > > > > > > Greetings from the other side of the world, > > > > > It has been some years since I posted here but rest > assured > > > that > > > > > I do read pretty much all of the emails that come > > > > > from Phono-l. For those who don't recognise my name I write a > regular > > > > > column called "Australia Calling" for In The Groove. > > > > > Yes, I am Anthony Sinclair of Australia. For those who are not > > > members of > > > > > MAPS then this email will probably be meaningless > > > > > to you so I will keep it short and to the point. > > > > > > > > > > Back 23/March 2007 I was diagnosed with cancer and given three > weeks to > > > > > live. As I try to keep a low profile (aside from > > > > > teasing my American friends with scurrilous remarks in ITG) I told > > > only a > > > > > few people. Well, news leaked out and the number of > > > > > emails, cards and phone calls that I received was not only > staggering > > > but > > > > > very, very heart warming. The kind and generous > > > > > support continued right through my - obviously successful - chemo > and I > > > > > can truly regard the international phono family > > > > > as exactly that: a FAMILY. > > > > > > > > > > Well, today was my final visit to my cancer doctor as it is now > over > > > five > > > > > years since my treatmentand, as I am still alive, I am > > > > > statistically boring and likely to keep on living for a long time > to > > > come. > > > > > Unless I upset too many of my American friends > > > > > by calling a VV-IV 'cheap and nasty' again. > > > > > > > > > > On behalf of my wife and family I say THANK YOU to everyone. Your > kind > > > > > words, your prayers, your presence (even > > > > > on the other side of the world) made a pretty tough time tolerable > and, > > > > > sometimes, fun. On my own behalf I say to anyone > > > > > with cancer now and in thefuture remember this: cancer IS curable. > > > More, > > > > > much more research is to be done but don't forget that > > > > > you must have faith and a very positive attitude. > > > > > > > > > > Anthony Sinclair > > > > > AUSTRALIA CALLING > > > > > > > > > ___ > > > > Phono-L mailing list > > > > http://phono-l.org > > > > > > ___ > > > Phono-L mailing list > > > http://phono-l.org > > > > > ___ > > Phono-L mailing list > > http://phono-l.org > > ___ > Phono-L mailing list > http://phono-l.org > ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
Re: [Phono-L] Thank you - not phono related
Curt, 21 years for me. Every day is a blessing. Loran On Tue, Nov 27, 2012 at 12:55 PM, Vinyl Visions wrote: > I'm a three year survivor. How many more members of the club are out > there?Curt > > Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2012 12:24:46 -0800 > > From: lo...@oldcrank.com > > To: phono-l@oldcrank.org > > Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Thank you - not phono related > > > > Anthony, > > > > Congratulations and welcome to the survivor's club! I'm glad you decided > to > > stick around :) > > > > Regards, > > Loran > > > > > > On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 10:00 PM, Anthony Sinclair >wrote: > > > > > Greetings from the other side of the world, > > > It has been some years since I posted here but rest assured > that > > > I do read pretty much all of the emails that come > > > from Phono-l. For those who don't recognise my name I write a regular > > > column called "Australia Calling" for In The Groove. > > > Yes, I am Anthony Sinclair of Australia. For those who are not > members of > > > MAPS then this email will probably be meaningless > > > to you so I will keep it short and to the point. > > > > > > Back 23/March 2007 I was diagnosed with cancer and given three weeks to > > > live. As I try to keep a low profile (aside from > > > teasing my American friends with scurrilous remarks in ITG) I told > only a > > > few people. Well, news leaked out and the number of > > > emails, cards and phone calls that I received was not only staggering > but > > > very, very heart warming. The kind and generous > > > support continued right through my - obviously successful - chemo and I > > > can truly regard the international phono family > > > as exactly that: a FAMILY. > > > > > > Well, today was my final visit to my cancer doctor as it is now over > five > > > years since my treatmentand, as I am still alive, I am > > > statistically boring and likely to keep on living for a long time to > come. > > > Unless I upset too many of my American friends > > > by calling a VV-IV 'cheap and nasty' again. > > > > > > On behalf of my wife and family I say THANK YOU to everyone. Your kind > > > words, your prayers, your presence (even > > > on the other side of the world) made a pretty tough time tolerable and, > > > sometimes, fun. On my own behalf I say to anyone > > > with cancer now and in thefuture remember this: cancer IS curable. > More, > > > much more research is to be done but don't forget that > > > you must have faith and a very positive attitude. > > > > > > Anthony Sinclair > > > AUSTRALIA CALLING > > > > > ___ > > Phono-L mailing list > > http://phono-l.org > > ___ > Phono-L mailing list > http://phono-l.org > ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
Re: [Phono-L] Thank you - not phono related
Anthony, Congratulations and welcome to the survivor's club! I'm glad you decided to stick around :) Regards, Loran On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 10:00 PM, Anthony Sinclair wrote: > Greetings from the other side of the world, > It has been some years since I posted here but rest assured that > I do read pretty much all of the emails that come > from Phono-l. For those who don't recognise my name I write a regular > column called "Australia Calling" for In The Groove. > Yes, I am Anthony Sinclair of Australia. For those who are not members of > MAPS then this email will probably be meaningless > to you so I will keep it short and to the point. > > Back 23/March 2007 I was diagnosed with cancer and given three weeks to > live. As I try to keep a low profile (aside from > teasing my American friends with scurrilous remarks in ITG) I told only a > few people. Well, news leaked out and the number of > emails, cards and phone calls that I received was not only staggering but > very, very heart warming. The kind and generous > support continued right through my - obviously successful - chemo and I > can truly regard the international phono family > as exactly that: a FAMILY. > > Well, today was my final visit to my cancer doctor as it is now over five > years since my treatmentand, as I am still alive, I am > statistically boring and likely to keep on living for a long time to come. > Unless I upset too many of my American friends > by calling a VV-IV 'cheap and nasty' again. > > On behalf of my wife and family I say THANK YOU to everyone. Your kind > words, your prayers, your presence (even > on the other side of the world) made a pretty tough time tolerable and, > sometimes, fun. On my own behalf I say to anyone > with cancer now and in thefuture remember this: cancer IS curable. More, > much more research is to be done but don't forget that > you must have faith and a very positive attitude. > > Anthony Sinclair > AUSTRALIA CALLING > ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
[Phono-L] Don't Click on Unknown Links!
It looks like at least one of our members has had their Yahoo email account hijacked. Please don't click on any links you don't recognize - especially if there is just a link with no other text in the email. Phono-L has been a pretty safe place over the years and I'd like to keep it that way. I've disabled that particular subscription and will contact that person. Loran ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
[Phono-L] Fwd: Bob Johnson Celebration of Life
Robert "Bob" Ray Johnson was a lifetime resident of the Rogue Valley. Born on September 11, 1948, he passed away surrounded by family in Redding, California on September 17, 2012 at the age of 64. Bob, an avid Oregon Duck fan and graduate of the University of Oregon's School of Journalism and Communications, is known by most for his years as owner/operator of KTMT, KCMX and KMFR, his active support in the community and his avid collecting of antique phonographs. Bob is credited with bringing rock and roll to the FM airwaves in the Rogue Valley after he and his wife, Karen, "flipped the switch" from easy listening to Top 40 music on KTMT-FM in the late 80's. He also brought to the valley KTMT's morning radio show The Morning Zoo. Bob was stationed in Germany during Vietnam where he served in the Army's tank brigade. He was a past member of the Rotary Club and University Club, Friends of the Fair Foundation and the Jackson County Fair Board. He was also instrumental in the fundraising campaign to Save Mt. Ashland. After retiring in 1996, Bob spent most of his time enjoying life. Never idle, he traveled, raced in the sand on his side-by-side, water skied, white water rafted, kayaked, paddle boarded and rebuilt and collected antique phonographs. Bob became ill after a week long family vacation on Lake Shasta; an annual family tradition where he was spending time doing the things he enjoyed most, with the people he loved. He will forever be cherished by his wife, Karen; daughters Kelly and Kerry; son, Brian; sister, Judy; brother, Gary and a long list of amazing friends that he considered family. A Celebration of Life will be held at the U.S. Hotel Ballroom on California Street in Jacksonville (adjacent to the Jacksonville Inn) on September 29 from 11am - 2pm. In lieu of flowers please send a donation to the National Foundation for Infectious Diseases, designated for septic shock (http://www.nfid.org/donate) or donate blood at a local blood bank. ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
Re: [Phono-L] Bob Johnson News Article
Bruce, Bob's collection is impressive. I live just down the hill, so I've had the pleasure of wandering through his museum on many occasions. I've even had the opportunity to "foster" a couple of pieces before they made the journey up the hill. Bob & Karen opened their home to OTAPS often and were gracious hosts. Loran On Fri, Sep 21, 2012 at 10:19 AM, wrote: > http://www.mrvictor.com/ > ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
[Phono-L] Bob Johnson News Article
http://www.mailtribune.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20120920/NEWS/209200313 Loran ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
Re: [Phono-L] Apology to all
John, You owe no one an apology. Yes, one purpose of the list is to share & further knowledge about the hobby. Phono-L is also a conduit for socialization among those of us who share common bonds. Folks, if you get your panties in a wad over some non-phono related chatter, run your own listserve and make the rules. Hang out here, you play by my rules. Thanks, Loran On Mon, Jul 30, 2012 at 10:21 AM, John Robles wrote: > Good morning all. > I received an email this morning from a list member stating that it would be > nice if I "did not use Phono-L for my personal email or soapbox", and that > "not everyone wants to hear all this". It was further stated that the purpose > of Phono-L was to share and further our knowledge about our shared hobby. > That is true. > > I simply responded to a public message that was posted by a list member. I > had written him privately asking him to let me know how he was doing. He > answered publicly. Was it off subject? Yes. I did not use the list as a "soap > box"' I merely made a compassionate response to a list member's message. I > assume he received a similar response. I also assume that if the medical > issue had been cancer or some other "mainstream" ailment, I would not have > been accused of being on my "soapbox", which implies a political attitude. > > Be that as it may, I am sorry if my public response to a public message > offended anyone. I will try to keep my compassion for suffering private from > now on. > > John Robles > > > > ___ > Phono-L mailing list > http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
Re: [Phono-L] Attention iphone and phonograph users
I think I may have heard of this Jerry character. Isn't he a bicycle hoarder that lives on that old pulp mill commune near Salem? :) Loran On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 12:09 PM, Jen wrote: > Thanks again Scott, I will send him a message. Have a great day! > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Feb 15, 2012, at 11:03 AM, "Scott and Denise Corbett" > wrote: > >> Hi Jen, >> Here is the email of a very nice collector who lives in Oregon, which >> is not too close to you, but he knows all the collectors up in that area. >> His name is Jerry Blais and he can be reached at: >> deedeebl...@yahoo.com >> >> I'm sure someone in your area can help you. >> >> -Scott ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
[Phono-L] Administrivia
FYI, I've tweaked spam filtering on the Phono-L server this weekend. If you think you're having problems posting to the list, please let me know at lthughes at gmail dot com. Thanks, Loran ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
[Phono-L] Phono-L Website & Chat Has Moved!
The re-designed Phono-L website is now located at phono-l.org. The Phono-L chat room is also located here, so change your bookmarks! Regards, Loran ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
[Phono-L] 123 years later, voice of Thomas A. Edison's talking doll is heard again
http://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/2011/07/123_years_later_voice_of_thoma.html Loran ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
Re: [Phono-L] shrinking cylinder speed?
All this talk of shrinkage makes me feel as if I'm in an episode of Seinfeld ;-) Spring motor, leather belt drive, and questionable tolerances do not meet the level of laser precision. Get it close, tune to ear, and enjoy. Loran On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 3:36 PM, Rich wrote: > Yes, except the 160 was not very accurately determined. Radial shrinkage > after molding is not uniform either. > ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
Re: [Phono-L] shipwrecked phonograph and records
"We're headed for the bottom, boys... put on the Len Spencer!" ;) Loran On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 5:59 PM, John Maeder wrote: > That comment about the phonograph playing galled me, too. Very reckless > scholarship IMHO. Does she visualize that a ship that size sank in less than > 1:30! LOL! > >> Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2011 16:07:57 -0700 >> From: john9...@pacbell.net >> To: phono-l@oldcrank.org >> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] shipwrecked phonograph and records >> >> I think to someone like this researcher, who seems not to be aware that >> these records sold in the thousands, they must seem like rare gems. >> And that line about perhaps they were playing the phonograph as the ship >> went down, I think that's the last thing I'd be doing at a moment like that! >> John Robles >> >> --- On Mon, 3/28/11, David Dazer wrote: >> >> From: David Dazer >> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] shipwrecked phonograph and records >> To: "Antique Phonograph List" >> Date: Monday, March 28, 2011, 2:41 PM >> >> Very interesting. Seems silly to try to "recapture" the old sounds, since >> the records were mass produced. Surely if the titles can be identified, >> similar records could be found. Or, am I not understanding something? >> Dave >> >> --- On Mon, 3/28/11, Andrew Baron wrote: >> >> From: Andrew Baron >> Subject: [Phono-L] shipwrecked phonograph and records >> To: "Antique Phonograph List" >> Date: Monday, March 28, 2011, 5:19 PM >> >> Did anyone catch this? >> http://www.montrealgazette.com/technology/Shipwrecked+music/4509626/story.html >> >> Andy Baron >> ___ >> Phono-L mailing list >> http://phono-l.oldcrank.org >> ___ >> Phono-L mailing list >> http://phono-l.oldcrank.org >> ___ >> Phono-L mailing list >> http://phono-l.oldcrank.org > > ___ > Phono-L mailing list > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org > ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
Re: [Phono-L] Eldridge Dictation Cylinders
One might wonder if this is the Eldridge in question: http://www.archive.org/details/shorthanddictat00bridgoog Loran On Sat, Feb 26, 2011 at 1:01 PM, wrote: > > Thank you, Allen, for the information. Every internet search I do seems to > guide me toward the Victor Eldridge! I'm glad to have another name now. My > cylinder is the same size as an ordinary blue amberol, and the interior and > exterior look exactly the same as an ordinary blue amberol. I do have > Kimball dictation cylinders, and this is DEFINITELY later, and not one of > those. On the rim of the cylinder is this: "NO. 3-ELDRIDGE DICTATION > RECORD-80 WORDS PER MINUTE Thomas A Edison PAT'D ..3" I own an Number 3 > Standard Ediphone practice record, It is not the same, as it is 40 words per > minute, and a different voice. In fact, I went and listened to a Kimball > cylinder and a Standard Ediphone cylinder, and then the Eldridge. Definitely > seems to be a different voice, but the same types of dictation material on > the cylinders. ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
Re: [Phono-L] In The Groove - Upcoming Events calendar
Tim, you've done a wonderful job with ITG... list members, if you are not currently a member of MAPS, I encourage you to pop over to MAPS-ITG.org and check it out (follow the current website link to view a sample issue of ITG). I consider my back issues of 'In the Groove' as much a part of my collection as any other piece. Regards, Loran On Sat, Feb 26, 2011 at 8:43 PM, Tim McCormick wrote: > Folks, > > I am getting ready to finish up the April/May edition of In The > Groove. The biggest problem I have is knowing what upcoming events to list. > I would be very pleased if you could provide me the information for > additional upcoming events, shows and chapter meetings. What I have thus > far is listed below. Please E-Mail me at edi...@maps-itg.org with more > event listings: > > Upcoming Events > > APRIL 3, 2011 - North Reading, Massachusetts - The Next Meeting of > Massachusetts Old Colony Antique Phonograph Society (MOCAPS) will be hosted > by member Robert Richter at his home at 283 Elm Street on Sunday, April 3rd > from noon until we're done! All MAPS Members and invited new-member > candidates are welcome to join us for this meeting's theme "Where the sound > begins", demonstrations and presentations about phonograph reproducers and > soundboxes, needles and styli, and needle tins. We'll rebuild Edison > reproducers and Victor soundboxes. A key topic for this meeting is > recruiting new members from the six state New England area in conjunction > with MAPS. As always, food, dessert and beverage donations are welcome. > Please call 978 664 4282 or e-mail an RSVP to r...@bobscomp.com Robert > Richter. > > APRIL 10, 2011 - Wayne Mechanical Music Extravaganza. For details, contact: > Michael Devecka, 206 Park St, Montclair, NJ 07042 - 973-655-9730 email: > mid...@earthlink.net > > APRIL 15 & 16, 2011 - Stanton's Spring Auction of Music Machines. > > APRIL 15, 2011 - Deadline for June/July In The Groove submissions. > > MAY 11-14, 2011 - ARSC Conference in Los Angeles. Website is > www.arsc-audio.org/conference > > Send your Event and upcoming MAPS Chapter Meeting information to > edi...@maps-itg.org > > Thanks, > > Tim > > Tim McCormick, President > Michigan Antique Phonograph Society > presid...@maps-itg.org > www.MAPS-ITG.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
Re: [Phono-L] Widdicomb Catalog
Wayne... add me to your list, please? :) Loran On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 10:14 AM, wayne holznagel wrote: > Hi George, > Won't cost anything as I have the supplies on hand. Just a few days to work > on it. I should get it out the end of next week. We have a "guest" - an > eight year old boy - for the next few days. Once he leaves I should be able > to make them quickly. > Have a great day. > > > <:)> > Wayne H > > > "Living Life" is not about making money . . . it is about creating memories > that warm the soul. > > --- On Thu, 1/27/11, George wrote: > > > From: George > Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Widdicomb Catalog > To: "Antique Phonograph List" > Date: Thursday, January 27, 2011, 10:20 AM > > > Hi Wayne > I too would purchase a copy of the catalog. > Thank you, > George Vollema > Great Lakes Antique Phonograph > Newaygo MI 49337-8556 > 231-652-5753 > > > - Original Message - > From: Brian Kaiser > To: 'Antique Phonograph List' > Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2011 5:48 PM > Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Widdicomb Catalog > > > I would love to have (purchase ) a copy of the catalog.especially if it > listed the Widdicomb that we have! > > -Original Message- > From: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org] On > Behalf Of wayne holznagel > Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2011 5:42 PM > To: phono-l@oldcrank.org > Subject: [Phono-L] Widdicomb Catalog > > Hi All, > Don't know if this will help at all . . . but I do have an > original Widdicomb Phonograph catalog. If anyone was interested I could > make copies available. > > > <:)> > Wayne H > > > "Living Life" is not about making money . . . it is about creating memories > that warm the soul. > ___ > Phono-L mailing list > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org > > ___ > Phono-L mailing list > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org > > ___ > Phono-L mailing list > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org > ___ > Phono-L mailing list > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org > ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
Re: [Phono-L] Vic R
Ah, but you CAN post reasonably sized photos on Phono-L! As long as the total message size stays under 200k, your photo will go through. The system scrubs the photo(s) from the message, then creates a link for each at the bottom of the message that readers can click on. Unfortunately, I can't bump the message size limit at the moment - the little server's hard drive just isn't big enough. Regards, Loran On Fri, Jan 7, 2011 at 8:19 PM, wrote: > I've only seen 2 or 3 myself. Only the first couple thousand Rs were done > that way. I have one here, but we can't post photos. I'll be happy to post > photos on one of the forums if you'd like. > > George P. > ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
Re: [Phono-L] Merry Christmas, Happy Hannukah (belated) etc.
...and Happy Holidays to all! It's my pleasure to provide Phono-L - 2011 here we come! Best Regards, Loran Hughes On Fri, Dec 24, 2010 at 8:21 PM, john robles wrote: > I want to wish the best of the holidays to everyone on the board, and I hope > your 2011 is brighter and better than 2010. > It's a pleasure to read your messages, to learn new things here, and just to > enjoy the good fellowship we all share here. Sure, sometimes there is > disagreement, but we all seem to come back around to the subject at hand and > to general goodwill. > So thank you for this venue Loran, and again, Happy Holidays to all. > John Robles ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
Re: [Phono-L] Think streaming internet music is new? Check out this phonograph service from 1910...
1. Please check out the link as it came through in the archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/phono-l@oldcrank.org/msg10459.html 2. I'm well aware of the awesomeness of the DELETE key. I'm willing to wager that my delete key is bigger than yours, as I am the list owner. Thanks, Loran On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 5:30 AM, Vinyl Visions wrote: > > It's not spam, Loran... I thought readers other than yourself, might be > interested in a PHONOGRAPH RELATED very interesting article about a unique > phonograph service. It just happens to be posted on the Carolina Antique > Music & Phonograph Society Facebook page. If you don't want to read it or > look at it you have a DELETE key on your computer. > >> From: lo...@oldcrank.com >> Date: Sun, 21 Nov 2010 21:08:52 -0800 >> To: phono-l@oldcrank.org >> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Think streaming internet music is new? Check out this >> phonograph service from 1910... >> >> Please refrain from posting Facebook spam here. >> >> Thanks, >> Loran >> ___ >> Phono-L mailing list >> http://phono-l.oldcrank.org > > ___ > Phono-L mailing list > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org > ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
Re: [Phono-L] Early cygnet horn without the spring
Jean-Charles, Please be civil. Nobody is trying to sell you anything. If you do not wish to receive emails from Phono-L, I will be happy to unsubscribe you. Best, Loran On Tue, Nov 9, 2010 at 7:39 PM, Jean-Charles Leblanc wrote: > > i told you people whaht i had to tell you ,now dont get smart,what is my > bunesse is not yours,and be calm AND I DONT WHANT ANY OF YOUR PRODUCT. ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
Re: [Phono-L] Early cygnet horn without the spring
That's pretty much my experience too. Can't tell you how long I fudged with the rubber coupler to get it to play a full record! Pretty interesting setup, none the less. Loran On Mon, Nov 8, 2010 at 7:30 PM, Greg Bogantz wrote: > I have an early 10 panel cygnet horn and springless crane on an Edison > Fireside. As you surmise, the system doesn't work very well as the force > placed on the carriage by the horn varies with the position of the carriage. > It happens to work on my particular example because the rubber coupling from > my reproducer to the horn is old and somewhat loose. This allows the rubber > coupler to move vertically a bit as the carriage moves which results in a > more uniform carriage pressure. But this original setup was not > satisfactory, I'm sure, and that's why the later versions use the spring to > suspend the horn from the crane. > > Greg Bogantz > ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
Re: [Phono-L] Adaptor for diamond disc records
I used to have one. Pretty sure there's a photo in the Paul/Fabrizio Gadgets book. Regards, Loran On Sun, Oct 31, 2010 at 3:06 PM, Robert Wright wrote: > > Wow, I've never seen an adaptor like that, other than the Brunswick Ultona > 3-way tonearm. All the adaptors I've ever seen fit Edison phono's to play > lateral 78's. Be nice to have both! Anyone have a picture of the type of > adaptor David's asking about? > Best,Robert > >> To: phono-l@oldcrank.org >> From: drlun...@comcast.net >> Date: Sun, 31 Oct 2010 19:21:26 + >> Subject: [Phono-L] Adaptor for diamond disc records >> >> List: if anyone has an extra adaptor to allow their victor phono to play >> diamond disc records, I'd like to pick one up. I used to have one but can't >> locate and I have some xmas records I'd like to play on a victor this year. >> Please contact me off list if you have one for sale. Thanks. David >> --Original Message-- >> From: Ron L'Herault >> Sender: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org >> To: phonol...@yahoogroups.com >> To: 'Antique Phonograph List' >> ReplyTo: Antique Phonograph List >> Subject: [Phono-L] cylinder cabinet pegs and knob >> Sent: Oct 31, 2010 9:26 AM >> >> I just picked up a 252 peg, 6 drawer cylinder cabinet in Oak. >> Unfortunately, of course, all the pegs have been removed and one knob is >> broken. I'm pretty sure that there are at least a couple of peg suppliers. >> Phonophan is one. Who is the other, Jim? Does anyone have one knob and >> disk that they would like to part with? It is the roundish, openwork knob >> with a round disk behind it. I can take a picture of a good one if >> necessary. >> >> Thanks, >> >> Ron L'Herault >> >> ___ >> Phono-L mailing list >> http://phono-l.oldcrank.org >> >> >> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry >> ___ >> Phono-L mailing list >> http://phono-l.oldcrank.org > > ___ > Phono-L mailing list > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org > ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
[Phono-L] Phono-L server maintenance
I'll be doing a bit of work on the server over the next few days, so there may be some outages here & there. Thanks, Loran ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
Re: [Phono-L] Oddball sort of ex-Brunswick crapophone
Fess up, Peter... you're the "winning" bidder, aren't you ;-) Loran On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 9:28 PM, Peter Fraser wrote: > I couldn't stop laughing when I saw it this morning. > > And when I got to that last picture showing the innards, with the legendary > Brunswick ShopVac SoundHose, fastened with the fabled Brunswick AcoustiClamp, > I squirted coffee out my nose. > > Sent from my iPhone > > -- Peter > pjfra...@mac.com ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
Re: [Phono-L] Yankee Prince Phonograph
Looks like a homemade sound dampener to me; those little Columbia's can get pretty loud. Loran On Mon, Jul 5, 2010 at 3:57 PM, Joe Prindle wrote: > Hi, > I took some additional photos of the soundbox and posted them. If the > cylindrical contraption is a user modification, they did a nice job of > bending the needle bar without breaking it. > Thanks, > Joe > > --- On Mon, 7/5/10, phonop...@aol.com wrote: > > > From: phonop...@aol.com > Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Yankee Prince Phonograph > To: phono-l@oldcrank.org > Date: Monday, July 5, 2010, 5:32 PM > > > That soundbox is correct for this model of YP--- bigger in diameter, with a > thumbscrew, and damaskeening behind the diaphragm. That cylindrical > contraption attached to the needle bar is nothing I've ever seen and seems to > me to be a home handyman adaptation. If anyone else needs pillars like that, > let me know, I'm thinking of getting some made. Or perhaps someone has > already done it?? > > > Cheers, TF. > > > > > > > > > > ___ > Phono-L mailing list > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org > ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
Re: [Phono-L] 80-Year-Old Edison Recording Resurrected
The direct link to the audio: http://link.brightcove.com/services/player/bcpid1407952373?bctid=96943642001 Loran On Sat, Jun 19, 2010 at 12:55 PM, wrote: > Simply incredible! There is also a link to actually hear this recording > which is most likely the last time Edison was recorded. Simply amazing! My > hat's off to those dedicated GE engineers who not only invented this > recording > process but especially to those who spent countless hours and expense to > bring it back to life with the "Gizmotron". > Sincerely, > Rick A. Jorgensen > Golden Era Automobile Association > _http://www.geaaonline.org_ (http://www.geaaonline.org/) > > > > > > In a message dated 6/19/2010 12:20:46 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, > lo...@oldcrank.com writes: > > _http://www.timesunion.com/AspStories/story.asp?storyID=942480_ > (http://www.timesunion.com/AspStories/story.asp?storyID=942480) > ___ > Phono-L mailing list > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org > ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
[Phono-L] 80-Year-Old Edison Recording Resurrected
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Re: [Phono-L] (no subject)
Sorry folks looks like a spam finally got through my filters. I've taken some steps to mitigate that! Loran ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
Re: [Phono-L] Table cranes have sold
Lucky devils! I was at work when this offer came through - so congrats to those who snapped them up! I got mine from Lee way back when. One of my better phono investments. Loran On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 3:24 PM, s.l. rexrode wrote: > > > Hello Fellow Collectors, > The table cranes have been spoken for, thanks to all who had an interest. > If anyone is interested in the 24" brass horn and/or the Columbia AB...please > contact me off-list. > Thank You, Lee > Lee rexrodeseymorep...@hotmail.com814-873-8753 ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
Re: [Phono-L] SLIGHT delay in April In The Groove
What a load of crap ;) Seriously, hope Phil is feeling better! Loran On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 2:40 PM, wrote: > > Just got this from Phil Stewart who asked me to pass this on: > > Steve > > > Howdy: Just getting over a rather uncomfortable intestinal thing which > lasted almost a week. This on the heels of our printer going on vacation. In > short, ITG will not be mailed until next week. Please let folks know that I > was on the job as soon as I got off the commode. > > Phil ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
Re: [Phono-L] Semi-Luddites - was Re: Definition of antiques
LOL! Loran On Sun, Jan 3, 2010 at 6:29 PM, john robles wrote: > Tom, i donno wht u r talking abt. :-P > John Robles ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
Re: [Phono-L] Semi-Luddites - was Re: Definition of antiques
They already have my medical records, fingerprints, and background information. FB is the least of my problems! ;) Loran On Sun, Jan 3, 2010 at 5:35 PM, Rich wrote: > Don't worry, after the government gets their hands on your medical history > you will not be concerned with what might be left on the social network > sites. > ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
Re: [Phono-L] Semi-Luddites - was Re: Definition of antiques
There are quite a few phono/record collectors on FB. My problem is that between them, my military buds, work associates, family, etc., it becomes a mish-mash of eclectic stuff. On the other hand, I've talked to folks that I lost track of years ago. As Ron said, it can be a real time sucker. One thing that really annoyed me about FB is that it initially wants to email you every single time someone comments on a post that either you made or commented on. Then there are all the games... every time someone buys a duck for their virtual farm, you'll find out about it. Fortunately, you can turn off the emails and hide the game stuff - once you figure it all out. Loran On Sun, Jan 3, 2010 at 1:07 PM, Chris Kocsis wrote: > How many of us "older" folks have embraced "Web 2.0" social media like > Facebook and LinkedIn? Frankly I have no interest in either, but I have > friends and acquaintances my age (61) (including my dentist) who send me > invitations. Has anyone here found these to be worthwhile and beneficial? > > Chris > ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
[Phono-L] The Graphophone in Therapeutics
I love Google Books. Just when you think you've read it all, out pops a little gem. Here's a letter to the editor from the Boston medical and surgical journal, Volume 150. Enjoy ;) Loran THE GRAPHOPHONE IN THERAPEUTICS. March, 1904. Мн. Editor: In Japan during the summer of 1899, a friend of mine and I hired a small island situate in the bay of Sagami, about a dozen miles south of Kamakura and a hundred and fifty yards from the mainland, upon which was a small fishing village called Sajima. The island was of about two and a half acres in extent, sacred to Teujin, the god of caligraphy, and therefore known as Teujinshima. Upon it was a single house large enough for us and our entourage, together with a shrine devoted to the memory and worship of Teujin. The whole outfit was the property of the Imperial household and came into our temporary possession in a very complicated, roundabout and Japanese fashion, the details of which are too numerous to mention. A common friend of ours came to visit us on the island. He had just returned from Formosa and was broken down from a combination of dysentery, malarial fever and rheumatism which had confined him to hospital for six months. He had been very ill and came to us in hopes that the quiet and isolation of our insular paradise might benefit him. He did not improve, but gradually grew feebler and finally was obliged to take to his bed, as we say, which in Japan means that he did not rise from the floor. With this increasing weakness there developed a constipation upon which neither Cockles pills nor Hunyadi Janos water had any effect. After a week's delay in having a movement of the bowels, my friend and I held what is known in the practice of medicine as a consultation. We decided that the case demanded the administration of an enema. We commanded and carefully supervised the concoction of an injection composed of hot water, glycerine and soapsuds, a pailful. After the injection fluid had been compounded and pronounced good, we made the discovery that although we had plenty of ammunition we had no gun. There was no syringe on the island, not even a Royal P., and none nearer than Tokyo, a distance of some sixty miles. We had a small bamboo which we fashioned into an excellent anal pipe but nothing more. It was suggested that we each blow successive mouthfuls of the injection into the rectum. This idea was rejected as being more likely to produce nausea in us than defecation on the part of the patient. There was a graphophone in the house with which we used to amuse the Japanese kids who swam over every day from the mainlaind to visit us. We were both struct with the fact that the india-rubber tubes of this machine which serve to conduct its vociferations to the ear would also convey fluid. With the help of bamboo, twine and surgical adhesive plaster we spliced the tubes together and attaching the aforesaid bamboo nozzle to one end and the tin trumpet of the graphophone to the other we had an injection apparatus of novel construction but of rare efficacy as its use proved. As the crow flies the distance between the trumpet and the nozzle was a matter of about four feet. The intricate tortuosity of the tubes, however, rendered the distance traversed by the injection one of some yards. The practical results of the use of this acoustic enema were two-fold. Upon the patient the effect was all that could be desired. Upon the graphophone, however, the effect was prejudicial in the extreme. The sounds which issued from it after its prostitution were so fecal and unfit for ears polite that we were obliged to destroy the instrument. I venture to say that this is the first and probably the only instance of the application of the graphophone as an aid to therapeutics. ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
Re: [Phono-L] What did I buy? Ebay item 220523099867
I'm confused, too. I didn't see any misrepresentation and the seller clearly labelled it for what it is... buyer's remorse more than anything here? Loran On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 8:26 PM, brice paris wrote: > I am a little shocked here. Not sure who is being taken, item does not seem > to be misrepresented and the pictures are clear. A bidder has a > responsibility to follow through on their contract win or lose. What am I > missing??? ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
Re: [Phono-L] Searchable archives coming soon!
Peter, I'm outsourcing it to mail-archive.com. There isn't much there yet, but I've requested that they upload our old archives, which go back to 2003. Should be pretty slick once everything is there. http://www.mail-archive.com/phono-l@oldcrank.org/maillist.html Loran On Mon, Jul 6, 2009 at 6:38 PM, Peter Fraser wrote: > can you share the tech behind it with us, please? some of us might be > curious - i know i am...thanks. ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
[Phono-L] Searchable archives coming soon!
Just thought you'd like to know that the Phono-L archives will soon be searchable. I'll let everyone know when it's up & working. Regards, Loran ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
[Phono-L] Phono-L is Back Up
Sorry for the inconvenience... Loran From zonophone2...@aol.com Thu Dec 11 15:17:45 2008 From: zonophone2...@aol.com (zonophone2...@aol.com) Date: Thu Dec 11 15:16:02 2008 Subject: [Phono-L] Transport Information Wanted Message-ID: hi try greyhound i have shipped several cabinets that way best to all zono In a message dated 12/11/2008 3:39:30 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, jim...@earthlink.net writes: I am buying a couple of upright phonographs that are located in the San Francisco area. What would be the most expedient, safest and cheapest means of having them transported to me in Austin, Texas? Thanks for any advice on this matter! Jim Cartwright Immortal Performances Austin, Texas jim...@earthlink.net jim...@earthlink.net ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org **Make your life easier with all your friends, email, and favorite sites in one place. Try it now. (http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dp&icid=aolcom40vanity&ncid=emlcntaolcom0010) From chris...@cox.net Thu Dec 11 15:09:08 2008 From: chris...@cox.net (chris...@cox.net) Date: Thu Dec 11 18:35:10 2008 Subject: [Phono-L] Transport Information Request Message-ID: <20081211180908.8bmjc.30699.im...@eastrmwml29> I don[t know if they serve that part of the country, but Craters and Freighters (www.cratersandfreighters.com) is often used for delicate antiques and large radios and has a good reputation. Also there is a company in Maine called AC Delivers (http://www.acdelivers.com/contact.asp) that is a superb antique delivery service, relied on by dealers all over, but they tend to take a while to get to the item and aggregate enough stuff for a delivery to the destination. Any other suggestions? Chris Kocsis "jim...@earthlink.net" wrote: > I am buying two upright phonographs located in the San Francisco area & need > to have them transported > to Austin, Texas.What is the most expedient, safe and cheapest > transportation method for antique > phonographs?Thanks!(I have tried several times to send this query but > it doesn't appear to be > getting through.Is Phono-L in operation?) > > Jim Cartwright > > Immortal > Performances > > Austin, Texas > > > jim...@earthlink.net > > > > > jim...@earthlink.net > ___ > Phono-L mailing list > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
[Phono-L] Protect Your Phono Photos
With the rash of eBay shenanigans (fake auctions with stolen photos), it may be a good idea to watermark your website photos. Here's a couple of sites that will watermark for free: http://picmarkr.com/ http://www.watermarktool.com/ I suggest watermarking the photo with your web site address in an area where it can't be cropped out. Also, if you sell on eBay, watermark your item photos with your seller ID - that way, the crooks can't steal your auction photos. Loran From ret.army...@yahoo.com Sun Nov 30 03:07:13 2008 From: ret.army...@yahoo.com (buck Buchanan) Date: Sun Nov 30 03:07:25 2008 Subject: [Phono-L] Protect Your Phono Photos In-Reply-To: <998dac550811292007ib68b204s2d892fec52871...@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <955565.52076...@web57508.mail.re1.yahoo.com> Loran, Thank you, that is a very good way to protect not only us as sellers but also the buyers. Bill Buchanan --- On Sat, 11/29/08, Loran T. Hughes wrote: From: Loran T. Hughes Subject: [Phono-L] Protect Your Phono Photos To: "Antique Phonograph List" Date: Saturday, November 29, 2008, 11:07 PM With the rash of eBay shenanigans (fake auctions with stolen photos), it may be a good idea to watermark your website photos. Here's a couple of sites that will watermark for free: http://picmarkr.com/ http://www.watermarktool.com/ I suggest watermarking the photo with your web site address in an area where it can't be cropped out. Also, if you sell on eBay, watermark your item photos with your seller ID - that way, the crooks can't steal your auction photos. Loran ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org From phonol...@cylinder.de Sun Nov 30 08:46:18 2008 From: phonol...@cylinder.de (Norman Bruderhofer) Date: Sun Nov 30 09:09:53 2008 Subject: [Phono-L] Protect Your Phono Photos In-Reply-To: <998dac550811292007ib68b204s2d892fec52871...@mail.gmail.com > References: <998dac550811292007ib68b204s2d892fec52871...@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20081130170942.d6817c8...@mail.intellitechcomputing.com> Thank you, Loran! I think it is very important to create awareness. Let me add to more recommendations: If you have a larger collection of pictures to watermark, I recommend the batch file conversion feature of IrfanView: http://www.irfanview.net/ or XnView: http://www.xnview.com/ Both are more technical but very handy for more than about 10 pictures. Both programs are free for personal use. Norman At 05:07 30.11.2008, you wrote: >With the rash of eBay shenanigans (fake auctions with stolen photos), it may >be a good idea to watermark your website photos. Here's a couple of sites >that will watermark for free: > >http://picmarkr.com/ >http://www.watermarktool.com/ > >I suggest watermarking the photo with your web site address in an area where >it can't be cropped out. Also, if you sell on eBay, watermark your item >photos with your seller ID - that way, the crooks can't steal your auction >photos. > >Loran >___ >Phono-L mailing list >http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
[Phono-L] We're Back!
On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 9:32 AM, Peter Fraser wrote: > > What's macports? macports.org - it's a nice, easy way to compile open source programs on your Mac. The only issue is that macports likes to be a little too helpful at times. For example, if I were to tell it to install 'mailman' (the software that runs Phono-L), it may also install its version of the Apache web server, Postfix, and any programs that it thinks those might need -- even if your system already has those things installed, but not in the macports directory. So what you think might be a simple software install can lead to hours of downloads/installations that you might not require. And having two versions of a piece of software running at the same time on the same server isn't always a good thing ;) Loran From a...@popyrus.com Wed Nov 12 11:42:39 2008 From: a...@popyrus.com (Andrew Baron) Date: Wed Nov 12 11:43:12 2008 Subject: [Phono-L] Edison vs Tesla In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <07a08e20-26f4-4b32-9f86-fbeec8c7f...@popyrus.com> Very well stated. Refer to the January 1915 E.P.M. for Tesla's letter to Edison. Best to all, Andy Baron On Nov 12, 2008, at 10:40 AM, DanKj wrote: > "The History Channel" is running yet another mis-informed story > about the alleged "feud" between Tesla and Edison. "Edison hated > Tesla, Tesla was cheated", blah blah blah. > > The reality is that both of them hardly ever mentioned the other, > and when each had a disaster, the other responded with kindness. > When Tesla's lab burned to the ground, he was invited to bring his > work to the Edison lab in NJ - and he accepted. When Edison had a > huge fire in 1914, Tesla sent a messsage of sympathy. Hate? Hardly. > > The whole "feud" business is a conflation of the brief "war of the > currents" between Edison's system and Westinghouse. Westinghouse > bought many Tesla patents (which required a great deal of > Westinghouse work to make practical) , thus the confusion. Once > Edison got out of the electricity generation business, there was no > conflict. > > Both Tesla and Edison were brilliant, great men, but making them > into petulant, battling children diminishes both. They had their > strengths and weaknesses, as do we all. > > > > ___ > Phono-L mailing list > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
[Phono-L] We're Back!
Sure, Peter! The hardware hasn't changed. It's still a simple, first generation G4 Mac Mini. It was running the client version of OS X 10.4, with some add-on programs (mainly from MacPorts) to make it act as a server. Unfortunately, Apple security patches were starting to break things, like email & spam filtering. So it was getting a bit hard to maintain. So I obtained the server version of 10.4, which pretty much works out of the box. Now we're running a nice, clean server install that should extend the service life of the hardware - for as long as 10.4 is supported, anyway. The transfer went pretty smoothly - the toughest job was getting Phono-L to play nicely with the new email system. You might ask why I stuck with 10.4 rather than upgrade to the current 10.5... hardware limitations. 10.5 is just too much to lift on the G4. So there you go, in a nutshell! Loran On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 11:27 PM, Peter Fraser wrote: > care to let us know the hardware and software details of the new server? > > > On Nov 11, 2008, at 3:43 PM, Loran Hughes wrote: > > Thanks for your patience, folks. I've still got a few things to bring back >> on line, such as the Phono-L home page and the chat room. But it's been a >> long day, so it's "Miller time!" I'll be back at it tomorrow. >> >> Regards, >> Loran >> ___ >> Phono-L mailing list >> http://phono-l.oldcrank.org >> > > ___ > Phono-L mailing list > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org > From pjfra...@alamedanet.net Wed Nov 12 09:32:44 2008 From: pjfra...@alamedanet.net (Peter Fraser) Date: Wed Nov 12 09:33:12 2008 Subject: [Phono-L] We're Back! In-Reply-To: <998dac550811120913y686c2d1et54a7a2014779a...@mail.gmail.com> References: <45e10ce4-5cfb-48c5-bfd1-0e25e20e1...@oldcrank.com> <998dac550811120913y686c2d1et54a7a2014779a...@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1aea4cc4-1741-4d90-9078-1d4b3240a...@alamedanet.net> Nice! Our cute li'l mac mini is permanently hooked up to the big LCD tv and acts as a media server with 1TB of movies pix and music, as well as being a Internet device with a 42" monitor. What's macports? Sent from my iPhone -- Peter pjfra...@mac.com On Nov 12, 2008, at 9:13 AM, "Loran T. Hughes" wrote: > Sure, Peter! The hardware hasn't changed. It's still a simple, first > generation G4 Mac Mini. It was running the client version of OS X > 10.4, with > some add-on programs (mainly from MacPorts) to make it act as a > server. > Unfortunately, Apple security patches were starting to break things, > like > email & spam filtering. So it was getting a bit hard to maintain. > So I obtained the server version of 10.4, which pretty much works > out of the > box. Now we're running a nice, clean server install that should > extend the > service life of the hardware - for as long as 10.4 is supported, > anyway. The > transfer went pretty smoothly - the toughest job was getting Phono-L > to play > nicely with the new email system. > > You might ask why I stuck with 10.4 rather than upgrade to the current > 10.5... hardware limitations. 10.5 is just too much to lift on the G4. > > So there you go, in a nutshell! > Loran > > On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 11:27 PM, Peter Fraser >wrote: > >> care to let us know the hardware and software details of the new >> server? >> >> >> On Nov 11, 2008, at 3:43 PM, Loran Hughes wrote: >> >> Thanks for your patience, folks. I've still got a few things to >> bring back >>> on line, such as the Phono-L home page and the chat room. But it's >>> been a >>> long day, so it's "Miller time!" I'll be back at it tomorrow. >>> >>> Regards, >>> Loran >>> ___ >>> Phono-L mailing list >>> http://phono-l.oldcrank.org >>> >> >> ___ >> Phono-L mailing list >> http://phono-l.oldcrank.org >> > ___ > Phono-L mailing list > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org From ediso...@verizon.net Wed Nov 12 09:40:45 2008 From: ediso...@verizon.net (DanKj) Date: Wed Nov 12 09:41:10 2008 Subject: [Phono-L] Edison vs Tesla References: Message-ID: "The History Channel" is running yet another mis-informed story about the alleged "feud" between Tesla and Edison. "Edison hated Tesla, Tesla was cheated", blah blah blah. The reality is that both of them hardly ever mentioned the other, and when each had a
[Phono-L] Rumor on AOL & their Hometown
Here's a better link: http://help.aol.com/help/search.do?cmd=displayKC&docType=kc&externalId=http--helpchannelsaolcom-kjumpadparticleId223807 Loran On Thu, Oct 16, 2008 at 1:00 PM, Loran T. Hughes wrote: > Hmm, I just found it in AOL's help pages: > http://help.aol.com/help/search.do?cmd=displayKC&docType=kc&externalId=http--helpchannelsaolcom-kjumpadparticleId185255&sliceId=&dialogID=6025405&stateId=0%200%206031087 > > Loran >
[Phono-L] Rumor on AOL & their Hometown
Hmm, I just found it in AOL's help pages: http://help.aol.com/help/search.do?cmd=displayKC&docType=kc&externalId=http--helpchannelsaolcom-kjumpadparticleId185255&sliceId=&dialogID=6025405&stateId=0%200%206031087 Loran On Thu, Oct 16, 2008 at 11:29 AM, wrote: > > This is apparently a rumor (Urban Legend?). I just called AOL and asked > about it. They deny any changes to their Hometown or FTP sites for each > member. > I have seen the above rumor on a Blog or two, but not on any official AOL > Site where we would expect to see it - if it were true. > > Allen > > > **New MapQuest Local shows what's happening at your > destination. > Dining, Movies, Events, News & more. Try it out > (http://local.mapquest.com/?ncid=emlcntnew0002) > ___ > Phono-L mailing list > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org > >
[Phono-L] Phonograph Sales Tactics, 1916
I was browsing google's scanned books today and ran across this interesting little tidbit from the 1916 issue if 'Bulletin of Pharmacy.' Enjoy! Loran UTILIZING DULL DAYS TO "CASH IN" ON PROSPECTS. BY E. ALLEN HELLER. Our store is not unlike many others in country towns ? there sometimes occur days when, for one reason or another, customers do not come in with their ordinary frequency. These "slow days" are always an occasion of much waste time, for while they offer an opportunity for house-cleaning and the completion of sundry small jobs, a whole forenoon may often be considered wasted because the income does not meet expenses. We decided that on those days when the customers were not coming to the store we would go out to them. This work was delegated to me, and it was understood that a quiet day was my signal to go out into the country and sell phonographs. THE PLAN. This is how we work the plan. Each clerk in the store keeps on the lookout for phonograph prospects. These prospects are reported to me on a card by the clerk who discovers the prospect, with as full particulars as the clerk knows. Here is the way in which we sometimes turn a chance remark into a sale. A man who was drinking soda at our fountain, on hearing a phonograph playing in the store, remarked to the soda clerk, "My wife is crazy for a phonograph." That is all that was said, and a little later the soda boy handed me a card, on which was written the customer's remarks together with his name and address. The second or third day afterward was a slow one. I went to the livery stable where we had arrangements for a rig, drove out to that man's house, and left a phonograph "on trial." The rest was easy. We made the sale, which added forty dollars to the income of a "slow morning."
[Phono-L] Fwd: Items for sale
Begin forwarded message: > From: "Darold Edwards" > Date: May 17, 2008 5:05:22 PM PDT > To: Loran at oldcrank.com > Subject: Items for sale > > I have the following items for sale, and I do have access to get > them delivered to the Union show next month. > > Victrola L-door in fumed oak. Serial number in the 43,000's. There > is no motor but does have the motor board. The lid has quite a few > nicks and gouges. Also the two small doors that cover the horn > opening are missing. The veneer on the sides is in pretty good shape > and not peeling. It does have the gold tone arm and u-tube but no > reproducer. You could possibly refinish it but for the most part you > should consider it a parts machine, It does have the pull out shelf > and the horn and the lower drawer inside. The price is $175 > > Victrola Credenza. Brown mahogany four door model. Spring wind > motor. Works well and sounds good. Interior is very clean and nice. > The case is in good solid condition with only a couple of veneer > chips but to look it's best it probably should be refinished. Price > is $600 > > Also available is a Columbia Napkin ring cylinder. The case and lid > are very nice. The cylinder is mold free and very nice condition. > The recording is young girl recording herself for her mother. Price > is not cheap, please inquire directly. > > I can have photos available tomorrow to email to any interested > parties. I prefer to have the machines picked up at the Union show. > We can negotiate shipping charges but will try to keep them to a > reasonable cost. Please contact me directly at Daroldedwards at gmail.com > > Thank you, > Darold Edwards
[Phono-L] Talking Machine Industry Book
Aha! I should have realized that Allen would know of it! Any idea when it was published? Loran On May 3, 2008, at 7:54 AM, AllenAmet at aol.com wrote: > > In a message dated 5/3/2008 10:30:36 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, > loran at oldcrank.com writes: > > > Does anyone here know of this book (by Ogilvie Mitchell)? > > > Yes. Certainly useful... > > allen
[Phono-L] Talking Machine Industry Book
I found a book the other day that I'd never seen or heard of before - "The Talking Machine Industry" by Ogilvie Mitchell, who is credited as the associate editor and reviewer for the Talking Machine News. It's a UK publication, no copyright date, but this is a library copy that dates to the early 20's. It's one book out of several in Pitman's Common Commodities and Industries series. I haven't gone through all of it yet, but seems to be similar to "The Phonograph Book" in content - except that it talks about the history of the major UK companies. Does anyone here know of this book? Loran
[Phono-L] new toy and parts search
Sell it for $825. Smell is gone and your $400 richer. ;) Loran On May 1, 2008, at 7:33 PM, Rich wrote: > Get a can of Folgers coffee, pour into case. That will also get rid > of > the smell.
[Phono-L] Down Time
Folks, I want to apologize for Phono-L being down for a few days... I had a major software malfunction here. Everything seems to be back up and running normally now. Loran
[Phono-L] Monarch Talking Machine Program
Don't get me wrong, Bruce. I agree completely about the Wisconsin Monarch... I'm playing devil's advocate here. However, sometimes things are not as complicated as we believe. I think this guy knew what he was doing when he put that little word "and" between Victor & Monarch... Interesting side note: I found 1921 legislation in the state of Delaware rescinding the incorporation of the Monarch Talking Machine Co., Inc. for failure to remit taxes for the two previous years. Of course, I'm assuming that this is the WI Monarch ;) Loran On Apr 17, 2008, at 6:36 PM, BruceY wrote: > More then likely that Monarch Company was part of the many many > mostly unsuccesful Companies who entered the Talking Machine Market > when the Patent rights for the Disc records and Talking Machines ran > out in the late 19teens. I think it is really a stretch to hold out > any hope that this obscure little Company that you mention was > churning out early Talking Machines in those early days of ungoing > patent disputes between Berliner, Columbia Zonophone, and later > Johnson's fledgling Company. From lo...@oldcrank.com Thu Apr 17 19:59:16 2008 From: lo...@oldcrank.com (Loran T. Hughes) Date: Thu Apr 17 19:59:22 2008 Subject: [Phono-L] Monarch Talking Machine Program In-Reply-To: <6b92b4f0-e122-4945-a5f5-bb4bedbc5...@oldcrank.com> References: <001c01c8a0ee$8822ecf0$6401a...@user52c8f93503> <04b99269-4454-4192-86eb-1500fbf09...@oldcrank.com> <000701c8a0f4$950c1300$6401a...@user52c8f93503> <6b92b4f0-e122-4945-a5f5-bb4bedbc5...@oldcrank.com> Message-ID: <62f077ec-cb52-40d6-aca5-ed7caf26e...@oldcrank.com> Oops, hit send too quick. Meant to add that Monarch could have been a local jobber. Loran On Apr 17, 2008, at 7:55 PM, Loran T. Hughes wrote: > Don't get me wrong, Bruce. I agree completely about the Wisconsin > Monarch... I'm playing devil's advocate here. However, sometimes > things are not as complicated as we believe. I think this guy knew > what he was doing when he put that little word "and" between Victor > & Monarch... > > Interesting side note: I found 1921 legislation in the state of > Delaware rescinding the incorporation of the Monarch Talking Machine > Co., Inc. for failure to remit taxes for the two previous years. Of > course, I'm assuming that this is the WI Monarch ;) > > Loran From jim...@earthlink.net Thu Apr 17 21:41:34 2008 From: jim...@earthlink.net (jim...@earthlink.net) Date: Thu Apr 17 21:41:47 2008 Subject: [Phono-L] repair in Dallas/Ft. Worth area Message-ID: <380-22008451844134...@earthlink.net> If your friend can make it down to Austin, Jeff Cecil does all sorts of antique phonograph repair as a sideline to his day job. His telephone number is (512) 288-2835. Jim Cartwright Immortal Performances jim...@earthlink.net EarthLink Revolves Around You. > [Original Message] > From: Tyrone Settlemier > To: Antique Phonograph List > Date: 8/28/2007 7:16:27 PM > Subject: [Phono-L] repair in Dallas/Ft. Worth area > > I got asked by a web visitor where he could get an Edison Home repaired in the Dallas / Ft. Worth area. Come to think of it, that would be useful knowledge for myself as well. Is there anyone local who can do phonograph repair? > > Many thanks, > > Tyrone > ___ > Phono-L mailing list > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.484 / Virus Database: 269.12.10/977 - Release Date: 8/28/2007 4:29 PM
[Phono-L] Monarch Talking Machine Program
From the wording on the bill, you could be right. However, I also found - in my deep, dank, archives - a flyer for the Monarch Talking Machine Co. out of Menomonie WI. Although for a couple of late teens upright internal horn models. Could some little Wisconsin company have been quietly churning catalog machines in the early days? Loran On Apr 17, 2008, at 5:52 PM, BruceY wrote: > the history says that the Monarch Trade Mark was used on instruments > for only one season. This seems to confirm my suspicions about the > reason for the two names on the Promotional Program by the > Exhibitor, making it a very unique and rare reference to the two > different Trademarked Talking Machines Mfg. by Eldridge Johnson. From bruce78...@comcast.net Thu Apr 17 18:36:09 2008 From: bruce78...@comcast.net (BruceY) Date: Thu Apr 17 18:34:32 2008 Subject: [Phono-L] Monarch Talking Machine Program References: <001c01c8a0ee$8822ecf0$6401a...@user52c8f93503> <04b99269-4454-4192-86eb-1500fbf09...@oldcrank.com> Message-ID: <000701c8a0f4$950c1300$6401a...@user52c8f93503> More then likely that Monarch Company was part of the many many mostly unsuccesful Companies who entered the Talking Machine Market when the Patent rights for the Disc records and Talking Machines ran out in the late 19teens. I think it is really a stretch to hold out any hope that this obscure little Company that you mention was churning out early Talking Machines in those early days of ungoing patent disputes between Berliner, Columbia Zonophone, and later Johnson's fledgling Company. - Original Message - From: "Loran T. Hughes" To: "Antique Phonograph List" Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2008 9:22 PM Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Monarch Talking Machine Program > From the wording on the bill, you could be right. However, I also found - > in my deep, dank, archives - a flyer for the Monarch Talking Machine Co. > out of Menomonie WI. Although for a couple of late teens upright internal > horn models. > > Could some little Wisconsin company have been quietly churning catalog > machines in the early days? > > Loran > > On Apr 17, 2008, at 5:52 PM, BruceY wrote: > >> the history says that the Monarch Trade Mark was used on instruments for >> only one season. This seems to confirm my suspicions about the reason >> for the two names on the Promotional Program by the Exhibitor, making it >> a very unique and rare reference to the two different Trademarked >> Talking Machines Mfg. by Eldridge Johnson. > ___ > Phono-L mailing list > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
[Phono-L] Additional Ada Jones Information
Here's the juicy tidbits from the 1880 U.S. census: -- Philadelphia, PA Jas. Jones, age 31, Occupation: Bartender Annie Jones, age 20, Wife, Occupation: Keeps House Ada Jones, age 7, Daughter, Occupation: At Home Jas. H.O. Jones, age 6 mos., Son, Occupation: At Home Marg't Maloney, age 45, Mother, Occupation: At Home - According to songwritershalloffame.org, the family moved to Philly in 1879 and Ada's mother died soon thereafter. Annie Maloney was James' second wife (wow, he worked fast!). Margaret Maloney would be Annie's mother. Loran
[Phono-L] Additional Ada Jones Information
I don't think there is a photo of the headstone on the site. It does give the section & plot, so it would just be a matter of someone going out there and snapping a photo. Loran On Apr 13, 2008, at 11:37 AM, BruceY wrote: > But I don't see a photo of her gravestone there, Just the monument > showing the name of the Cemetery, is there a way to see the > Gravestone and the dates? > - Original Message ----- From: "Loran T. Hughes" > > To: "Antique Phonograph List" > Sent: Sunday, April 13, 2008 10:50 AM > Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Additional Ada Jones Information > > >> Here's her page on findagrave.com: >> http://tinyurl.com/637djg >> >> Loran >> From bruce78...@comcast.net Sun Apr 13 12:02:28 2008 From: bruce78...@comcast.net (BruceY) Date: Sun Apr 13 12:00:20 2008 Subject: [Phono-L] 19th century birth dates ect. References: <1578df77-1729-43fa-b90b-f12067ea5...@oldcrank.com> Message-ID: <001001c89d98$ec29c790$6401a...@user52c8f93503> You are quite correct Loran, the powers that be obviously overlooked some glaring glitches in the preperation, or lack there of, of Poor Ada's Death Certificate, her last legal record referring to her life and death here on earth.. Wrong name and spelling of her husbands last name and her married name, parents listed as unknown? What was she? a Bastard Child?? we know she wasn't but this legal document raises the question. date of birth not filled in, no residential address!! What was she? a homeless Bag Lady? and much,much more. Presumably this unconciouable lack of information on the last document prepared which in summary is suppose to give reference to important dates, information, and individuals in this persons life, was done to speed the shipping of remains to New York for funeral and burial. This is no excuse to leave this important legal document uncorrected, nor is it an acceptable excuse that it somehow sybolize a colorful quirkiness of this time long ago. I guess we can just agree to disagree. I vote to go for correction and you and others like it just the way it is. and let's just let it lay there. I have my reasons to change it, you have your reasons not to. We have talked this issue to death. No pun intended!! Thanks for the trip. Bruce - Original Message - From: "Loran T. Hughes" To: "Antique Phonograph List" Sent: Sunday, April 13, 2008 1:05 PM Subject: Re: [Phono-L] 19th century birth dates ect. > Well said. My mom was born in a cabin in South Dakota in 1924. The > country doc filed the birth certificate a few days later and recorded the > wrong birth date. There was no double checking the facts - it was just > the way things were done. The doc just went from memory. It was never > corrected - it's just not that important to my mom. > > I'm sure it was the same with Ada Jones' death certificate. It was filled > out with the best knowledge of the available witnesses. If her husband > even received a copy, he may not have bothered to read it in his time of > grief. And if he did catch the mistake, would he really bother contacting > the state of N.C. to get it corrected? Their would have been nothing to > gain for the trouble. > > As far as getting all the proper paperwork together, who's to say that > the rails weren't greased (no pun intended) to get a famous singer's body > back to her family for burial. It was, after all, 1922, not 2008. > > We know when & where Ada was born and died. We know where she's buried. > We know her true age. Is it really necessary to legally change a death > certificate of someone who's been gone nigh on 90 years? Shall we next > demand a correction from the NY Times for getting her age wrong in the > obituary? > > Personally, I think these quirky paperwork glitches add a bit of color to > the history and are a testament of the times in which she lived. > > Loran > > On Apr 13, 2008, at 9:14 AM, Thomas Edison wrote: > >> The problem with all of us we go at research with 21st century >> thought, put yourself in a 19th and early 20th century mindset when you >> do research and come to conclusions, makes things much eiser to >> understand. > > ___ > Phono-L mailing list > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
[Phono-L] Additional Ada Jones Information
Here's her page on findagrave.com: http://tinyurl.com/637djg Loran From allena...@aol.com Sun Apr 13 09:01:41 2008 From: allena...@aol.com (allena...@aol.com) Date: Sun Apr 13 09:01:58 2008 Subject: [Phono-L] Marr Cert # 16264 Message-ID: Flaherty Hugh Aug 9 1904 Manhattan 16264 F463 married: Jones Ada Aug 9 1904 Manhattan 16264 J520 FYI - the cert will have exact birth dates of all concerned and names of their parents. Allen _www.phonobooks.com_ (http://www.phonobooks.com) **It's Tax Time! Get tips, forms and advice on AOL Money & Finance. (http://money.aol.com/tax?NCID=aolcmp0030002850) From edisonphonowo...@hotmail.com Sun Apr 13 09:14:15 2008 From: edisonphonowo...@hotmail.com (Thomas Edison) Date: Sun Apr 13 09:14:18 2008 Subject: [Phono-L] 19th century birth dates ect. Message-ID: The Un-certainty of birth dates is easy to explain. In these days of eveyone having numbers so your every move is tracked Was not the old way. In the 19th century it was common for the only birth record to be kept in the family Bible. Many people were born at home, and people did not have social security numbers either. The problem with all of us we go at research with 21st century thought, put yourself in a 19th and early 20th century mindset when you do research and come to conclusions, makes things much eiser to understand. _ Pack up or back up?use SkyDrive to transfer files or keep extra copies. Learn how. hthttp://www.windowslive.com/skydrive/overview.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_Refresh_skydrive_packup_042008 From lo...@oldcrank.com Sun Apr 13 10:05:03 2008 From: lo...@oldcrank.com (Loran T. Hughes) Date: Sun Apr 13 10:05:05 2008 Subject: [Phono-L] 19th century birth dates ect. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1578df77-1729-43fa-b90b-f12067ea5...@oldcrank.com> Well said. My mom was born in a cabin in South Dakota in 1924. The country doc filed the birth certificate a few days later and recorded the wrong birth date. There was no double checking the facts - it was just the way things were done. The doc just went from memory. It was never corrected - it's just not that important to my mom. I'm sure it was the same with Ada Jones' death certificate. It was filled out with the best knowledge of the available witnesses. If her husband even received a copy, he may not have bothered to read it in his time of grief. And if he did catch the mistake, would he really bother contacting the state of N.C. to get it corrected? Their would have been nothing to gain for the trouble. As far as getting all the proper paperwork together, who's to say that the rails weren't greased (no pun intended) to get a famous singer's body back to her family for burial. It was, after all, 1922, not 2008. We know when & where Ada was born and died. We know where she's buried. We know her true age. Is it really necessary to legally change a death certificate of someone who's been gone nigh on 90 years? Shall we next demand a correction from the NY Times for getting her age wrong in the obituary? Personally, I think these quirky paperwork glitches add a bit of color to the history and are a testament of the times in which she lived. Loran On Apr 13, 2008, at 9:14 AM, Thomas Edison wrote: > The problem with all of us we go at research with 21st > century thought, put yourself in a 19th and early 20th century > mindset when you do research and come to conclusions, makes things > much eiser to understand.
[Phono-L] Craigslist "Prank"
This doesn't have anything to do with phonographs, but is a Craigslist horror story in my neck of the woods. http://mailtribune.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080323/NEWS/803230338 Loran From rich-m...@octoxol.com Sun Mar 23 15:08:06 2008 From: rich-m...@octoxol.com (Rich) Date: Sun Mar 23 15:08:21 2008 Subject: [Phono-L] Craigslist "Prank" In-Reply-To: <4f8def34-a7b8-46b0-a413-cc1d1987a...@oldcrank.com> References: <4f8def34-a7b8-46b0-a413-cc1d1987a...@oldcrank.com> Message-ID: <47e6d4c6.3090...@octoxol.com> Based on that article, that is why I carry a gun. They would have not "sped off". It is a very good idea to be very careful when dealing with craigslist adds. Some are highly suspect. Loran T. Hughes wrote: > This doesn't have anything to do with phonographs, but is a Craigslist > horror story in my neck of the woods. > > http://mailtribune.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080323/NEWS/803230338 > > Loran > ___ > Phono-L mailing list > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org > > From maff...@bresnan.net Sun Mar 23 17:03:25 2008 From: maff...@bresnan.net (Bob or JoAnn Maffit) Date: Sun Mar 23 17:03:36 2008 Subject: [Phono-L] Victor XI owners manual References: <007e01c88c63$d8641df0$0301a...@daddell> Message-ID: <011f01c88d42$7b3332d0$0401a...@bmaffit> Walt: Mark: Ron: Thanks for the responses, which has yielded the VV-XI manual I requested. Again, thanks to Phono List and its members. Bob - Original Message - From: "Walt" To: "'Antique Phonograph List'" Sent: Saturday, March 22, 2008 3:29 PM Subject: RE: [Phono-L] Victor XI owners manual Bob, I sent a PDF copy to your email address that contains an original scanned VV-XI manual. Walt -Original Message- From: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org] On Behalf Of Bob or JoAnn Maffit Sent: Saturday, March 22, 2008 2:57 PM To: Antique Phonograph List Subject: [Phono-L] Victor XI owners manual Phono Folks: I have been asked to see if I can find an owners manual for a Victor XI that may have been provided when the machine was purchased. A copy is fine. Any sources or contacts will be appreciated. later Bob ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.21.8/1338 - Release Date: 3/21/2008 5:52 PM ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.21.8/1340 - Release Date: 3/23/2008 6:50 PM
[Phono-L] Interesting Edison item on Craigslist
Agreed. Although off topic posts are allowed, let's keep it civil and relevant. Loran On Feb 25, 2008, at 6:03 PM, Ken and Brenda Brekke wrote: > Loran has a great site here so let's please keep this forum for > phonograph > related topics. The original topic was related to an "Interesting > Edison > item on Craigslist" The two links below are not called for.
[Phono-L] re Apperance on ABC's Collectors....
Mario, Well done! I enjoyed seeing your collection (and you). If you were a bit nervous, you hid it quite well. Loran On Sep 7, 2007, at 7:19 PM, Mario Frazzetto wrote: > Hi Folks, > > I said that as soon as I had it all tee'd up I'd send a link to the > Segment on the ABC's "Collectors" program that aired here on August > the 10th, nerves meant that I made a few mistakes but I was happy > with the final result! > > Here is the link! > > www.youtube.com/watch?v=BPNmfCmxYLM > > > Cheers, > Mario From pkon...@msn.com Sun Sep 9 16:50:58 2007 From: pkon...@msn.com (Paul Kondig) Date: Sun Sep 9 16:55:47 2007 Subject: [Phono-L] WTB: Son's of the Brave March Message-ID: Greetings, I am looking for this particular cylinder "Sons Of the Brave March" 12927 on Edison Gold Moulded Cylinder. The one I have has a pit on it, and I do not want to damage the saphire stylus on my Edison Cylinder Phonograph. Sincerely, Paul R. Kondig From deedeebl...@yahoo.com Mon Sep 10 20:19:16 2007 From: deedeebl...@yahoo.com (DeeDee Blais) Date: Mon Sep 10 20:25:08 2007 Subject: [Phono-L] VV-XVI Cabinet Message-ID: <664744.61621...@web37008.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Hello Group. Does anyone have an interest in a good solid mahogany VV-XVI cabinet? It's a "G" series cabinet made shortly after the "L" door XVI's. It includes the name tag, horn, original knobs, casters, and motor board. Also included is most of a Cheney motor, Cheney reproducer, crank and turntable. Unfortunately, there's an extra crank hole to accommodate the Cheney motor. The extra hole is in a flat area and will be easy to fill. The price is $100. Please contact me off list if interested. Delivery is possible to Union or ???. Thanks, Jerry Blais Looking for a deal? Find great prices on flights and hotels with Yahoo! FareChase. http://farechase.yahoo.com/ From deedeebl...@yahoo.com Mon Sep 10 20:33:06 2007 From: deedeebl...@yahoo.com (DeeDee Blais) Date: Mon Sep 10 20:43:33 2007 Subject: [Phono-L] Also included! Message-ID: <349389.59002...@web37005.mail.mud.yahoo.com> I forgot to mention the most interesting extra that goes with the VV-XVI cabinet. It's a record duster that has "Property of the Electrical Research Products Inc. New York City" on the non-fuzzy side. I thought it was interesting that it's not a duster that contains advertising content. The duster is not in very good shape. Any thoughts on a duster with that type of written content? Thanks, Jerry Building a website is a piece of cake. Yahoo! Small Business gives you all the tools to get online. http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/webhosting From mari...@optusnet.com.au Tue Sep 11 05:46:52 2007 From: mari...@optusnet.com.au (Mario Frazzetto) Date: Tue Sep 11 05:51:13 2007 Subject: [Phono-L] re Bettini Reproducer Message-ID: <001201c7f471$d4797580$6401a...@tonyandjose> Hi Folks, One thing that I have learnt is that if you want something it is often a good idea to ask for it. So I know that this is a long shot but hey I'll give it a go. I was recently outbid on a Bettini Reproducer (losing bidder). This now means that I'd really like to get one. So should anyone have a genuine Bettini (actual Bettini not one of the Pathe copies) reproducer that they may consider letting go of I would be happy to "Talk Turkey" in regards to compensation. Please email me off list at: ma...@phonographsandgramophones.com Best Regards, Mario PS. I became an Uncle for the first time 3 1/2 hours ago. Yay!!! It was a girl :) From plav...@gmail.com Tue Sep 11 06:40:12 2007 From: plav...@gmail.com (Robert Plavzic) Date: Tue Sep 11 06:44:37 2007 Subject: [Phono-L] re Bettini Reproducer In-Reply-To: <001201c7f471$d4797580$6401a...@tonyandjose> References: <001201c7f471$d4797580$6401a...@tonyandjose> Message-ID: Hi Mario One of my friends e-mailed me yesterday with a "did you see this.". Was not a bad Bettini Reproducer with the advantage of a carriage for an Edison machine. If only I had seen it before the auction closed Good luck with your search, I'd also like to get one.and so would probably everyone else.:-) Congrats on your ABC interview it was really great! regards Rob On 9/11/07, Mario Frazzetto wrote: > > Hi Folks, > > One thing that I have learnt is that if you want something it is often a > good idea to ask for it. So I know that this is a long shot but hey I'll > give it a go. > > I was recently outbid on a Bettini Reproducer (losing bidder). This now > means that I'd really like to get one. So should anyone have a genuine > Bettini (actual Bettini not one of the Pathe copies) reproducer that they > may consider letting go of I would be happy to "Talk Turkey" in regards to > compensation. > > Please email me off list at: > > ma...@phonographsandgramophones
[Phono-L] Two questions added to the A-250 questionnaire
Andy, Please feel free to continue posting you updates! Loran On Aug 26, 2007, at 6:53 PM, Andrew Baron wrote: > For those who are following this study, two more questions have > been added to the bottom of the Edison A-250 questionnaire: > 18) Cabinet finish (may add more specifics later): > Red mahogany: Serial #1429 > Dark mahogany: Serial #13417 > Oak: Serial: #11187 > > 19) Number of mainsprings (Frow indicates earliest production may > have had single-spring motors). Spring barrels are visible if you > remove the grille and peer into the motor compartment by looking in > the upper r.h. corner. A flashlight helps. The spring closest to > the winding crank will be more visible. > One: > Two: Serial #1429, 5751, 11187, 12033. > > I'll continue to update the list as I obtain more data. For those > who may be interested in following this study, please let me know > if you would like to have me post updates to this list as I add > each additional machine, or have me post updates with each two or > three machines added (if we should be so fortunate), or if you > prefer to contact me instead. Now that I have the list formatted, > it's convenient to include additional entries and post the updates. > > Best regards, > Andy
[Phono-L] And we think phono collectors are nuts...
On Aug 18, 2007, at 1:00 PM, msprin...@juno.com wrote: > http://tinyurl.com/2v3wyh Nuts? I don't know about that. I haven't collected coins in ten years or so, but that made my heart skip a beat this morning. Crazy, maybe. Nuts, no. ;) Loran From kathal...@gmail.com Sat Aug 18 13:28:12 2007 From: kathal...@gmail.com (Kat Hall) Date: Sat Aug 18 13:31:04 2007 Subject: [Phono-L] And we think phono collectors are nuts... References: <20070818.090056.62...@webmail04.dca.untd.com> <637663fc-42a5-4b66-97a0-f68fbceeb...@oldcrank.com> Message-ID: <05f601c7e1d6$4d78c5c0$0301f...@kathy> Lordy, lordy. You guys gave me a heart attack. I had been going through the coin collection and I remembered there was a dime that looked exactly like this one. I had to go find it and it does look exactly like this one except it says 1941. And mine is in mint condition. I wonder just how much it is worth - lol - probably 10 cents. >From the Desk of Kat Hall Review Coordinator for Champagne Books Head Reader for Champagne Books www.champagnebooks.com ----- Original Message - From: "Loran T. Hughes" To: "Antique Phonograph List" Sent: Saturday, August 18, 2007 7:43 AM Subject: Re: [Phono-L] And we think phono collectors are nuts... > On Aug 18, 2007, at 1:00 PM, msprin...@juno.com wrote: > > > http://tinyurl.com/2v3wyh > > Nuts? I don't know about that. I haven't collected coins in ten years > or so, but that made my heart skip a beat this morning. Crazy, maybe. > Nuts, no. > > ;) > Loran > ___ > Phono-L mailing list > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
[Phono-L] Attachments
Folks, Please don't attach photos to Phono-L postings. It really messes up the digest version and is a pain for those still on dialup. I've adjusted the filters to block most (if not all) photos. If you need to share a photo with the group, I suggest uploading it to one of the many photo hosting sites and just send the link. picasaweb.google.com www.flickr.com photobucket.com ..and more. Thanks! Loran
[Phono-L] resubscribe
I think we just had an "awkward silence" moment. Everything is working fine, just doesn't seem to be any recent posts. Loran On Jul 22, 2007, at 9:04 AM, Kat Hall wrote: > I went into the site and the last message was a reply that I had > made on > July 19 to a post from July 17. There are no more posts showing on > the > site. I was wondering the same thing. > >> From the Desk of > Kat Hall > Review Coordinator for Champagne Books > Head Reader for Champagne Books > www.champagnebooks.com > - Original Message - > From: > To: > Sent: Sunday, July 22, 2007 12:56 AM > Subject: [Phono-L] resubscribe > > >> I seem to have fallen off the list as no posts have come in since the > 17th. >> >> How do I resubscribe? >> >> Thanks, >> >> Al >> >> >> >> >> ** Get a sneak peek of the all- >> new AOL > at >> http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour >> ___ >> Phono-L mailing list >> http://phono-l.oldcrank.org > > ___ > Phono-L mailing list > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org >
[Phono-L] Re: Indian records wanted
Good one, John. LOL! Loran On Apr 30, 2007, at 8:20 PM, john robles wrote: > And no, they are NOT for playing on a Crapophone!!
[Phono-L] A couple of notes about the list
Yup, definitely not cool. Here's the NY Times copyright notice: http://www.nytimes.com/ref/membercenter/help/copyright.html Basically, you need the copyright holder's OK to reproduce in any medium. In the case of the "email this article" link, (if I recall correctly) it only provides a link back to the original article via email. As for those pesky newspaper logins, I keep a couple of throw away email accounts (Yahoo, hotmail, etc.) to sign up for such things. A recovering technical writer, Loran On Mar 11, 2007, at 11:12 AM, Peter Fraser wrote: > hmmm - so even though i provided the article, fully credited and > intact, it's uncool? that's sort of odd, i think, especially since > they provide an "email this article" feature...but i agree, better > safe than sorry, for list moms! > > the main reason i posted it was because i knew most of our members > wouldn't be able to figure out how to view it otherwise, because > NYT requires a basic sign-in to occur. > > -- peter
[Phono-L] Dave Heitz Collection
Norman, Thank you for posting the entire video. I just finished watching it this evening and it was a marvelous trip down memory lane. With your permission, I'd like to preserve your video in our upcoming repository site. Regards, Loran From esrobe...@hotmail.com Fri Mar 2 01:49:16 2007 From: esrobe...@hotmail.com (Robert Wright) Date: Fri Mar 2 01:49:32 2007 Subject: [Phono-L] Dave Heitz Collection/a proposition References: Message-ID: I was actually curious about which machines you purchased from Dave's collection as well, Rene. And like the rest of the list, I offer many thanks to Norman for posting the wonderful video. In fact, I'll go one further and say that my favorite partof Rene's video feature (the news story) was watching him try to talk over the increased volume after having turned on the air compressor... and I've also downloaded a lot of wonderful videos from this one website that features its 'for sale' items in action... You know what would be GREAT for the repository? If owners of unusual machines (or any machines for that matter, I'd certainly download them all) had the facilities to take a quick video of their machines in action, introducing them first so that we have the sound of their voice as a reference to compare the sound of the phono to, to give an idea of its sonic signature. Icing would be watching any preliminary set-up involved with the machine, i.e., putting on the concert platen, winding the spring (those sounds are just as fascinating to those of us with little in-person experience with a given machine), assembling the horn/crane, etc. Any info would be great, as long as it included the machine's make and model, and maybe the record's artist, title, company of manufacture, and perhaps catalog number. We could flood youtube with phono videos and even generate more interest in the hobby! It's a stretch, I know, but c'mon! Would you love to see the rest of Rene's machine in action? I know Dan K has a lot of machines I'm curious about. With much hope, Robert - Original Message - From: "Jim Nichol" To: "Antique Phonograph List" Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2007 7:26 PM Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Dave Heitz Collection > Rene, what kind of tinfoil machine did Dave have? Where is it now? Was he > using your tinfoil? What machines did you buy from Dave? Sorry if I'm too > nosey. > > Jim Nichol
[Phono-L] shipping phonographs
Have you tried surfing ups.com and fedex.com for specific info? It's as bad/worse than finding something on microsoft.com! ;) Loran On Feb 18, 2007, at 10:55 AM, Peter Fraser wrote: > uh, "go down to..."? why not "surf to the sites of..."? > > On Feb 18, 2007, at 10:28 AM, Loran T. Hughes wrote: > >> Like everything, I imagine that the devil is in the details. >> Anyone care to volunteer to go down to UPS, FedEx, and USPS to get >> copies of the insurance agreements? I'll bet you find limits to >> liability on antiques... but I'm just guessing. >> >> Loran
[Phono-L] Ken D's restoration
On Feb 4, 2007, at 3:18 AM, Ken Danckaert wrote: > Tim and George have provided a wonderful service to all of us with > their books. Allen K. has made literature and patent information > available. Others, too many to mention, have preserved other > aspects of phonograph related information. There is a wealth of > information out there that has not been made available to us as a > whole. It would be great if there was a repository on line where we > could place documents for others to read. One such document is one > that I have from the Franklin Institute that certifies Berliner as > the inventor of the Gramophone. It describes in detail how he made > his records and the machines necessary to play them back. Many > would enjoy reading something like this if there was a repository > to get it from. Maybe one of you can create one. Any takers? Sooo, what exactly are you looking for? A place where people can submit articles, etc., or a place to post copies of manuals, documents... or both? Loran From k...@lemur.org Sun Feb 4 15:04:09 2007 From: k...@lemur.org (Ken Danckaert) Date: Sun Feb 4 15:04:28 2007 Subject: [Phono-L] Ken D's restoration In-Reply-To: References: <20070203163427.47422.qm...@web37012.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <45c5c120.4070...@lemur.org> Message-ID: <45c9.9000...@lemur.org> It seems to me there should be a place where people could post copies of information that they have. Ideally, they could scan it in and then upload it to a repository. They ought to be able to put a title on it that would appear in an index. In the best of all worlds, they would be able to search on a key word such as Berliner and pull up a list of everything with Berliner in the index. The hard part is when people don't have the ability to scan something. Jpegs are generally very difficult to read if they are a document. In that case someone may have to do it for them. Just some quick thoughts. Comments?? Ken Danckaert Loran T. Hughes wrote: > On Feb 4, 2007, at 3:18 AM, Ken Danckaert wrote: > >> Tim and George have provided a wonderful service to all of us with >> their books. Allen K. has made literature and patent information >> available. Others, too many to mention, have preserved other aspects >> of phonograph related information. There is a wealth of information >> out there that has not been made available to us as a whole. It >> would be great if there was a repository on line where we could >> place documents for others to read. One such document is one that I >> have from the Franklin Institute that certifies Berliner as the >> inventor of the Gramophone. It describes in detail how he made his >> records and the machines necessary to play them back. Many would >> enjoy reading something like this if there was a repository to get >> it from. Maybe one of you can create one. Any takers? > > > Sooo, what exactly are you looking for? A place where people can > submit articles, etc., or a place to post copies of manuals, > documents... or both? > > Loran > ___ > Phono-L mailing list > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
[Phono-L] Phono Exhibit at SFO Pics!
I've posted Barry's photos of the SFO exhibit at http://homepage.mac.com/loranhughes/PhotoAlbum16.html Thanks Barry! Loran From jnic...@fuse.net Sun Jan 21 15:54:12 2007 From: jnic...@fuse.net (Jim Nichol) Date: Sun Jan 21 15:54:32 2007 Subject: [Phono-L] Phono Exhibit at SFO Pics! In-Reply-To: <2a048276-ef68-42eb-9033-f57c8b7a8...@oldcrank.com> References: <2a048276-ef68-42eb-9033-f57c8b7a8...@oldcrank.com> Message-ID: <73f66852-88f7-4f68-9bbd-ad9d87022...@fuse.net> Who owns the Kruesi tinfoil replica, and who made it? My guess is Rene Rondeau and Bill Ptacek. Jim On Jan 21, 2007, at 3:36 PM, Loran T. Hughes wrote: > I've posted Barry's photos of the SFO exhibit at > http://homepage.mac.com/loranhughes/PhotoAlbum16.html > > Thanks Barry! > Loran > ___ > Phono-L mailing list > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
[Phono-L] Outage
Normally, posts should show up eventually. But I wouldn't fault anyone for re-posting. :) Loran On Jan 4, 2007, at 12:06 PM, john robles wrote: > Do we need to resubmit postings, or are they being held in the > great virtual vault somewhere? > John
[Phono-L] Re: Noisy Home
I guess my beef was more with the term "self lubrication." Although brass can have a bit of lead in the mix (depending on the alloy), I don't envision brass shavings - what you get when you mess brass & steel gears - as lubricating anything. Which leads me to another thought. The brass gear(s) may be worn and a bit sloppy. You may need to adjust the gears a bit so that the less worn area of the brass gear is making more contact. That should reduce the noise a bit. But keep in mind that we are talking about a Home ;) Loran
[Phono-L] Re: Noisy Home
How odd then that oiling gear teeth was recommended in Edison's instruction sheets. It's been a while since all those mechanical engineering courses, but I don't recall anything about dissimilar metal gears being "self lubricating." I even pulled out my Machinery's Handbook just to make sure not one word about it. Keep the gears clean and lightly oiled. Regards, Loran On Jan 2, 2007, at 10:21 AM, Rich wrote: > Try this then. Why do you suppose that The Edison Co. went to all > of the trouble to build motors > where there was a brass gear meshed with a steel gear? It is not > an accident. Look at any Edison > motor. This dissimilar metal mesh cost a lot of money to manufacture. > > Rich > > On Tue, 2 Jan 2007 12:21:09 -0500, Ron L wrote: > >> I can agree with the possibility of dirt getting in grease and >> causing wear >> but I'm not sure about the "self lubricating" aspect of this >> post. Anyone >> else want to weigh in on this? > >> Ron L
[Phono-L] Happy New Year!
Hope your new year brings happiness, health, and rare finds! The Hughes family From john9...@pacbell.net Mon Jan 1 18:56:01 2007 From: john9...@pacbell.net (john robles) Date: Mon Jan 1 18:56:19 2007 Subject: [Phono-L] Got a Victor Brass Belled Horn? Message-ID: <44936.53601...@web83006.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Hi folks I was thinking, I had asked if anyone could help me find a VIctor IV MG horn, but I am thinking I might want a brass belled horn instead. I know they originally came with the IV or at least was an option, and I would like to try that for something different. What does the group think, brass belled or MG? MGs are so common... I love asking the group's opinion not because I can't think for myself, but because I love seeing the different opinions! John Robles From richard_ru...@hotmail.com Mon Jan 1 20:02:31 2007 From: richard_ru...@hotmail.com (Richard Rubin) Date: Mon Jan 1 20:02:51 2007 Subject: [Phono-L] Got a Victor Brass Belled Horn? In-Reply-To: <44936.53601...@web83006.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Funny you should have this dilemma, John -- I'm in the same boat. I recently picked up a IV with an MG (though not a Victor MG -- I've been told it's a "US" horn, a little rounder on the petals, looks very nice) but personally I like the black-and-brass horns better, at least for this machine, and I was planning to post up here to see if anyone might be interested in trading a b&b horn for my MG. I'm not positive, but it seems that a 16.5" horn would be the right size; so far I haven't seen one. Are they hard to find? Anyone interested in a trade? As for your dilemma, John, I'd say it's just a matter of personal taste, but most folks seem to prefer the MG. Not me, though, apparently. --RR >From: john robles >Reply-To: Antique Phonograph List >To: phono-l@oldcrank.org >Subject: [Phono-L] Got a Victor Brass Belled Horn? >Date: Mon, 1 Jan 2007 18:56:01 -0800 (PST) > >Hi folks > I was thinking, I had asked if anyone could help me find a VIctor IV MG >horn, but I am thinking I might want a brass belled horn instead. I know >they originally came with the IV or at least was an option, and I would >like to try that for something different. What does the group think, brass >belled or MG? MGs are so common... > I love asking the group's opinion not because I can't think for myself, >but because I love seeing the different opinions! > John Robles >___ >Phono-L mailing list >http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
[Phono-L] New Home Page
Thanks Steve! The link to 78-l is now included. I'll address the RSS issue too. Regards, Loran On Dec 31, 2006, at 7:23 AM, srsel...@aol.com wrote: > Looks good Loran but for the "technologically deficient" members > like myself > (well, semi-technologically deficient, anyway) could you might want to > explain what the RSS Feed means/does. > > Also, you refer to 78-L for record discussions but don't provide a > link for > it. Here it is: > > _http://klickitat.78online.com/forum/_ (http://klickitat. > 78online.com/forum/) > > You might want to include a hyperlink. Otherwise the new site > looks fine. > > Happy New Year to you, Genetta and all the other Phono-lers. > > Steve Ramm
[Phono-L] New Home Page
Phono-L's new home page is up at http://phono-l.oldcrank.org . It gives you quick access to the archives, Phono-L store, chat room, and RSS feed. I'm also working on a classified ad section and a resource links page. Please check it out and let me know what you think! Regards, Loran From keeper...@aol.com Sat Dec 30 20:01:57 2006 From: keeper...@aol.com (keeper...@aol.com) Date: Sat Dec 30 20:02:20 2006 Subject: [Phono-L] How I get started Message-ID: In a message dated 12/28/2006 7:18:18 AM Pacific Standard Time, larsont...@charter.net writes: I remember reading in the public library & stumbling upon some photographs of external horned phonographs and being memorized by their appearance & dreamed of acquiring one some day. At the age of 10, my great aunt died leaving us with her Brunswick floor model. It was the same phonograph my father listened to growing up on the farm during the 20's & 30's. Such a sweet story, Randy! Thanks for sharing it! : ) Edward From john9...@pacbell.net Sat Dec 30 21:00:01 2006 From: john9...@pacbell.net (john robles) Date: Sat Dec 30 21:00:28 2006 Subject: [Phono-L] How I get started In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <168067.84809...@web83013.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Ok, time to share my story... I was about 7 or 8 years old when I discovered an old Grafonola Grafonola 'Favorite' in my grandmothers storage room. It had belonged to my aunt; my grandparents bought it for her because they were too strict to let her go to parties. This was the side of the family from Mexico, so all the records were in Spanish. My dad said that a man used to come up from LA every once in a while selling records to the Mexican community. There was quite a selection of them. I never forgot that machine as I grew up, and when I was in high school a friend of mine showed me an Edison Standard model A and some records that he had been given for cleaning out a garage. I was totally mesmerized by it, and I asked if he would part with it. He said I could have it for fifty dollars, which was exorbitant to me at the time. Another friend told him he should give it to me as he had gotten it for free, but nothing doing. Later on, when I was 23 and living in San Francisco, I made friends with a guy named David Chess, who collected phonographs since he was 11, and he had a Fireside model A and a Victor III at his apartment. He had his other phonos back home in Ohio. He started giving me written material about phonographs, and his back issues of the CAPS newsletter. They fascinated me, and one day I saw a Victrola VI in a shop window and convinved the owner to trade it to me for a violin which I had purchased for $20. That night my friend came over and brought a needle and some records, but as it happened, the thumbscrew was missing, a spring was broken and one of the reproducer leaf springs was broken. He told me to send it to Karl Frick for repair, which I did. FInally I was able to play it, and was hooked on phonographs from then on. He gave me much material and records over the years, some of which I still have and treasure as he died about twelve years ago at the young age of 36. He really gave me my start and taught me a lot as I grew in the hobby. I went to the second or third CAPS show and have gone every year but one since then. I bought my first cylinder machine from Pat Jones at the first CAPS show I went to..an Edison Model A standard for $238. I still have the first 5 or 6 cylidners I ever owned. My life has been very enriched by the hobby and especially the people I have met on the journey. John Robles keeper...@aol.com wrote: In a message dated 12/28/2006 7:18:18 AM Pacific Standard Time, larsont...@charter.net writes: I remember reading in the public library & stumbling upon some photographs of external horned phonographs and being memorized by their appearance & dreamed of acquiring one some day. At the age of 10, my great aunt died leaving us with her Brunswick floor model. It was the same phonograph my father listened to growing up on the farm during the 20's & 30's. Such a sweet story, Randy! Thanks for sharing it! : ) Edward ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
[Phono-L] Yahoo's Electrola group
Walt, I found myself thinking along the same lines this evening. How about we simply define ourselves as a forum of phonograph collectors and not worry about some artificial boundary. Let the discussions evolve as they may. Loran On Dec 26, 2006, at 7:03 PM, Walt wrote: > Bakelite (capitalized) is technically a brand name of a specific > type of > early thermo-plastic. It's certainly not in the later styrene > family of > plastics or anything you typically think of when you are looking at an > intricate injection molded case, but it is an early plastic > compound of > sorts. > > I guess the question would best be answered by starting with a > definition of > "antique phonograph" (emphasis on the word "antique"). > > Making a list of do's and don'ts about what can or can't be discussed > probably won't work well only because some people are inclined to > simply and > innocently shoot from the hip with a question, not realizing that > it is > entirely off-topic. But from the few times I recall such questions > being ask > here, the threads die an almost instantaneous death. Beyond that, > there > seems to be an adequate contingent of high caliber members who can > responsibly direct such wanderers to appropriate forums elsewhere. > > I think I like the idea of going with the "NO PLASTIC CASES" > equipment as a > loose rule. Still though, many phonograph-radio combo units had wood > cabinets well into at least the 40's. Units made by Zenith and > Admiral may > have had Bakelite cases, but at the same time companies like > Silvertone were > producing comparable units installed in wooden cabinets. I don't > believe > that these types of items (all of which I collect and work on > extensively) > belong in this forum. Diodes, Triodes, Pentodes, and any other > devices that > are used to alter electron movement as a means of reproducing > sound, are > better discussed in other places (no offense to Mr. Sarnoff and > company). > > So.someone please define "antique phonograph." > > Walt
[Phono-L] Edison Opera Question
That was kinda my impression too, but wasn't 100% sure when I was asked that question. Loran On Dec 24, 2006, at 3:02 PM, Ron L'Herault wrote: > I don't think so. I believe the Triumph Triton motor was entirely > below the > bedplate, whereas, if I am reading Frow correctly, the Opera has some > mechanicals, such as the Governor, above the bedplate. > > Ron L
[Phono-L] New RSS Feed
Folks, For you internet savvy types out there, Phono-L now has its own RSS feed. The newest 25 messages in the current month's archive will show up in your favorite feed reader! It auto-updates every 20 minutes, so you can now keep up with the phono chatter easily. Point your favorite RSS reader at http://www.oldcrank.org/phono-l/ feed/index.rss Regards, Loran
[Phono-L] Patent Searches
OK, here's another helpful tool that I've found. After you've found patents in Google, pop over to http://www.pat2pdf.org/ . Enter the patent number and the site will generate a downloadable PDF file. Loran
[Phono-L] Patent Search - tinfoil phonograph AND Allen K
On Dec 15, 2006, at 4:39 PM, phonost...@aol.com wrote: > Thanks s much, Loran, for sharing this with all of us! Guess > you know > just what we all will be doing well into the New Year! You're quite welcome, Joan. Here's a couple of fun ones for you... check out patent nos. 460492 and 1146342. Loran From ediso...@verizon.net Sat Dec 16 12:05:03 2006 From: ediso...@verizon.net (Dan K) Date: Sun Dec 24 13:12:10 2006 Subject: [Phono-L] Patent Search - tinfoil phonograph AND Allen K References: <4d7c64ed-5784-4817-a28a-fd1aa4e60...@oldcrank.com> Message-ID: <000601c7214d$79b1c3c0$6401a...@new> Love the phono-cash register, but he seems to have the 'horn' facing the cashier instead of the customer. hmm. We had a local grocery, Tops Market, try the electronic version about 20 years ago. Of course, everyone called that store "the Talking Tops" ! - Original Message - From: "Loran T. Hughes" To: "Antique Phonograph List" Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2006 2:14 PM Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Patent Search - tinfoil phonograph AND Allen K On Dec 15, 2006, at 4:39 PM, phonost...@aol.com wrote: > Thanks s much, Loran, for sharing this with all of us! Guess > you know > just what we all will be doing well into the New Year! You're quite welcome, Joan. Here's a couple of fun ones for you... check out patent nos. 460492 and 1146342. Loran
[Phono-L] Phono-L Mug Shots
OK, somebody requested photos of the Phono-L mugs. Here is a photo of the three 2006 Mugs: http://homepage.mac.com/loranhughes/PhotoAlbum14.html The two mugs on the right have been run though the dishwasher numerous times and haven't faded in the least. If you would like to order these, or the new 2007 mugs, click the "Support Phono-L" link at the bottom of this email. Loran
[Phono-L] Crescent Phonograph Info
On Dec 5, 2006, at 5:49 PM, Robert Wright wrote: > I gotta say, I have never heard of or seen a Crescent. I bet it's > pretty darn cool. > > Robert I've seen exactly one, 10 years ago, on the east coast. It was a mission style machine with open sides. I didn't know what the heck it was, so I didn't buy it. Loran
[Phono-L] Glass record
On Dec 2, 2006, at 7:53 AM, aph4...@aol.com wrote: > Well, surprise! The $10,000 glass record has now been reduced to > $2500. I > think I will need to revise my bid from $10 down to $5. It's > coming down fast. This "cracks" me up. from the description: "...no one can put a price on it or knows MUSH about it" ;) Loran
[Phono-L] 2007 Phono-L Mugs
Folks, The "official" 2007 Phono-L coffee mugs & beer stein are now available in the store. This is also the last call for the 2006 mugs... they will disappear forever on Dec 8! The new mug features a catalog image of the Victor De Luxe Monarch. Are the mugs durable, you ask? I've run my coffee mugs through the dishwasher almost daily and they still look as good as new. Proceeds go towards defraying the costs of maintaining Phono-L. Please check 'em out at http://www.cafepress.com/oldcrank (free ground shipping on orders over $50 through Dec 20). Loran
[Phono-L] 2007 Phono-L Mugs
On Dec 3, 2006, at 7:31 AM, rkolba0...@aol.com wrote: > Loran, any photos available? There are "mock up" photos on the store site, showing the graphics on the mugs. I can post a photo of the 2006 mugs (after I wash the one that I'm currently drinking coffee from!). Generally speaking, I think the mugs actually look better than the representation on the site. Loran
[Phono-L] Which one? And why?
On Nov 26, 2006, at 6:34 PM, john robles wrote: > Hi Bob > Would you mind if I included the picture of the lid in the next > GSPS Record (newsletter of the California chapter of MAPS)? And > Loran, may I use the picture of the torn Victrola decal? > John RObles Hi John, You have my permission for the torn decal. Loran
[Phono-L] On Off Topic
Now, now... Discussions are allowed to go off topic on Phono-L. Although this lists primary purpose is the discussion of phonograph-related topics, off topic discussions do allow us to get to know each other on levels other than our hobbies. Of course, the rule is to keep everything civil. I used to have some other rule about spamming the list, but the Mac server on which Phono-L runs pretty much takes care of that for me. I use whatever OS suits my needs for the moment. Linux, Unix, OS X, Windows XP... because of the technology, I'm able to save a small bit of history through digitization and - last but not least - bring Phono-L to you. OS's just facilitate the tools that I need and use. I may regularly attend the churches of Steve and Linus, but I stray into the tent of Bill when needed. But I digress. I just want everyone to know that Phono-L is not a lock-stepped moderated list. It's about collectors helping fellow collectors, from saving a newbie from a disastrous crap-o-phone purchase to helping an author conduct research to finding that crucial part. And occasionally giving advise on internet safety. I read each contribution and learn something from each post. As always, flames, gripes, constructive suggestions to lo...@oldcrank.com (no anatomically impossible suggestions please!). Have a happy Thanksgiving and enjoy your families. Your friendly list dad, Loran On Nov 22, 2006, at 7:18 PM, Mark Lynch wrote: > > Speaking of the Jurassic Era, no brainers, scams and spoofs there > used to > be a lot of BS on this board about Craphophones--gratefully those > discussions have ended. Has this apple/windows discussion taken its > place? > I for one am pleased to find that both companies have seen fit not to > remove the delete key. > > Please respectfully take these non-phonograph topics out back and > discuss > them in private or find a different soap box. > > Mark
[Phono-L] Which one? And why?
Not quite upside-down and certainly not in the class of the Vernis- Martin, but I have a Victrola Colony with a decal that was obviously torn when applied. Oddly enough, it resides just down the road from the Vernis of which you speak. Loran On Nov 26, 2006, at 1:25 PM, gpaul2...@aol.com wrote: > Jerry: >I'd definitely go for the upside-down decal. This is only > the second > instance of the anomoly I'm aware of. (The Vernis-Martin example > is in our > upcoming book, "A World of Antique Phonographs.") I have a golden > oak XVI > myself, but I'd trade it in a heartbeat for one with an upside-down > decal. What > gets me is that apparently neither the dealer nor the customer had > a problem > with paying $200 for a Victrola (or $400 in the instance of the > Vernis-Martin) > with its decal inverted! It seems as though the lid could have > been returned to > Camden for replacement/repair As far as the oak example is > concerned, a good > refinisher (and I'll bet Victor had plenty of them) could have > reworked only > the single affected interior panel. Even a complete lid refinish > wouldn't > have been a big deal. It's quite a mystery... >
[Phono-L] Which one? And why?
On Nov 26, 2006, at 1:35 PM, Loran T. Hughes wrote: > Not quite upside-down and certainly not in the class of the Vernis- > Martin, but I have a Victrola Colony with a decal that was > obviously torn when applied. Oddly enough, it resides just down the > road from the Vernis of which you speak. Here's an image of this decal: http://homepage.mac.com/loranhughes/PhotoAlbum13.html (click on the image to get a close up view... 4.1 MB file). Loran
[Phono-L] Which one? And why?
On Nov 26, 2006, at 3:01 PM, john robles wrote: > Fascinating. Is there a picture of an upside down decal available?? > John Robles http://mrvictor.com/phono_collection/victor/photos/v050.jpg Loran
[Phono-L] Radiola 20 for Orthophonic VV-7-3
The tabletop Radiola 20 won't fit in a 7-3 without a lot of work. I was finally able to find a Radiola 20 salvaged from a Brunswick console for my 7-3, and it required a small bit of tweaking to fit my cabinet. I was lucky too, as I still had the faceplate for the Victrola, so the "look" is correct. Oh, those tubes ain't cheap either! Loran On Nov 11, 2006, at 9:27 PM, tuban...@aol.com wrote: > Well there's always eBay > http://cgi.ebay.com/Radiola-Battery-Radio-Tube-Model-20- > AR918_W0QQitemZ2500484 > 36147QQihZ015QQcategoryZ38034QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem? > hash=item25 > 0048436147 > > They show up quite often.
[Phono-L] Test
Test post... no need to respond. Loran
[Phono-L] Near Miss
On Oct 14, 2006, at 2:20 PM, john robles wrote: > I am going to kick myself for giving up a source, but Ruby Lane is > an online antique mall which is searchable. > John Well, don't know if you're really giving up a source... they've been around for years. Seems like a lot of stuff is overpriced, but every once in a while you run across a bargain. http://www.rubylane.com/ Loran
[Phono-L] Sending attachments
On Sep 26, 2006, at 4:18 PM, Merle Sprinzen wrote: > I'm not thrilled about attachments because of the increased > possibility > of being infected with a virus. If a member's account was hijacked > we'd > all get an email that had a virus in the attachment. Those of us that > keep our virus definitions updated would be in better shape, but it > could > be misery to some. Excellent comment. Phono-L lives on a Mac OS-X server not 3 feet from me. Every email is virus/spam checked before it hits the mailing list. In the three+ years of Phono-L, it has never forwarded a virus (knock on wood). Nothing is 100% safe on the web, but my staff of crack programmers here at Phono-L HQ have a pretty good track record ;) Loran
[Phono-L] Now to an Edison BOOK
On Sep 18, 2006, at 6:35 PM, phonost...@aol.com wrote: > > Does Phono-L accept 'for sale' emails or should we stick to sharing > phonographic info? > > Thanks,,, > Joan > Joan, For sale postings are most welcome here! Loran
[Phono-L] Victrola usage on RCA products
On Aug 12, 2006, at 4:59 PM, Andrew Baron wrote: > Someone out there might > have a correction on this time frame, but I can't recall seeing the > word Victrola on a decal under the lid of, or on a machine from about > 1929 until the late forties. I have a V-215 radio/phono combination that dates to 1941... it's marked Victrola. Loran
[Phono-L] For Sale: The Phonograph Book
Friends, I've found yet another original copy of "The Phonograph Book" by Lloyd MacFarlane (copyright 1917, 159 pages). It's in overall good condition with tight binding. This book is as rare as hen's teeth and the last copy I offered went quick... first $150 takes it. Email me off list at lo...@oldcrank.com if interested. Loran
