Re: [Phono-L] 12-Inch Button on Edison Disk Machine?
Edison was planning to make 12 inch records, page 67 of the Frow DD book discusses this. ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
Re: [Phono-L] 12-Inch Button on Edison Disk Machine?
And if you don't know how to operate it: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemcategory=38027item=390393488879 How stupid did Edison think people were?? On 2/23/12, chris...@cox.net chris...@cox.net wrote: A friend has a Laboratory Model diamond disk player. To the left of the platter, along the edge close to the cabinet, are two push buttons -- one labeled 10 and the other 12. Neither of us was aware that there were 12-inch diamond disks. Were Edison reproducers available for lateral records? Was this an after-market modification? Thanks, Chris ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
Re: [Phono-L] 12-Inch Button on Edison Disk Machine?
I'll bet you could supply the needed records. Mike Oldcranky On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 10:33 AM, Darrell Lehman nickja...@gmail.comwrote: And if you don't know how to operate it: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemcategory=38027item=390393488879 How stupid did Edison think people were?? On 2/23/12, chris...@cox.net chris...@cox.net wrote: A friend has a Laboratory Model diamond disk player. To the left of the platter, along the edge close to the cabinet, are two push buttons -- one labeled 10 and the other 12. Neither of us was aware that there were 12-inch diamond disks. Were Edison reproducers available for lateral records? Was this an after-market modification? Thanks, Chris ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
Re: [Phono-L] 12-Inch Button on Edison Disk Machine?
It's actually a very convenient thing, helping to reduce the awkwardness of the little flip lever and likely preventing stylus damage from missing the edge of the record. I think they came out around the same time as the LP system, where protecting the fine LP stylus was even more crucial. I use the 10 every time I play a record. Very nice to have. Sent from my iPhone -- Peter pjfra...@mac.com On Feb 23, 2012, at 10:33 AM, Darrell Lehman nickja...@gmail.com wrote: And if you don't know how to operate it: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemcategory=38027item=390393488879 How stupid did Edison think people were?? On 2/23/12, chris...@cox.net chris...@cox.net wrote: A friend has a Laboratory Model diamond disk player. To the left of the platter, along the edge close to the cabinet, are two push buttons -- one labeled 10 and the other 12. Neither of us was aware that there were 12-inch diamond disks. Were Edison reproducers available for lateral records? Was this an after-market modification? Thanks, Chris ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
Re: [Phono-L] 12-Inch Button on Edison Disk Machine?
Yes, there were 12 disks and special reproducers and styli to play them. The groove is extremely fine. The phono had to be dead level too, I believe. The 10/12 buttons activated a stop to the amount the horn would swing by means of a small arm attached to the top edge of the horn. Ron L -Original Message- From: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org] On Behalf Of chris...@cox.net Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2012 11:33 AM To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Subject: [Phono-L] 12-Inch Button on Edison Disk Machine? A friend has a Laboratory Model diamond disk player. To the left of the platter, along the edge close to the cabinet, are two push buttons -- one labeled 10 and the other 12. Neither of us was aware that there were 12-inch diamond disks. Were Edison reproducers available for lateral records? Was this an after-market modification? Thanks, Chris ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
Re: [Phono-L] 12-Inch Button on Edison Disk Machine?
I concur that the button makes it easier, especially on a nice, well-lubricated machine where it's easy to go too far and then swinging all that mass back over to the right (without going too far again), prior to setting the diamond down on the disc. I don't speed through, but it's a lot of mass to swing over and stop dead before dropping the stylus. The button stops it exactly where it needs to be and there's no fishing. Andrew Baron Santa Fe On Feb 23, 2012, at 9:32 AM, chris...@cox.net wrote: A friend has a Laboratory Model diamond disk player. To the left of the platter, along the edge close to the cabinet, are two push buttons -- one labeled 10 and the other 12. Neither of us was aware that there were 12-inch diamond disks. Were Edison reproducers available for lateral records? Was this an after-market modification? Thanks, Chris ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
Re: [Phono-L] 12-Inch Button on Edison Disk Machine?
Twelve-inch discs were recorded in preparation for a new series, but the Long Playing program was decided upon,. instead. 12 masters had been recorded as far back as 1910, too. Problems with the gold-sputtering process supposedly stopped the early issue of 12inch Edisons, plus the fact that the 10inch discs already played as long as any competing discs. My Baby Console also has the 10-12 buttons never occurred to me that they were intended for stupid people, though . I doubt that the average person knew or cared what size were his phonograph records, any more than most people knew or cared how any machines worked. - Original Message - From: chris...@cox.net To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2012 11:32 AM Subject: [Phono-L] 12-Inch Button on Edison Disk Machine? A friend has a Laboratory Model diamond disk player. To the left of the platter, along the edge close to the cabinet, are two push buttons -- one labeled 10 and the other 12. Neither of us was aware that there were 12-inch diamond disks. Were Edison reproducers available for lateral records? Was this an after-market modification? Thanks, Chris ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
Re: [Phono-L] 12-Inch Button on Edison Disk Machine?
the sample records are twelve inch -Original Message- From: chrisk33 chris...@cox.net To: phono-l phono-l@oldcrank.org Sent: Thu, Feb 23, 2012 1:12 pm Subject: [Phono-L] 12-Inch Button on Edison Disk Machine? A friend has a Laboratory Model diamond disk player. To the left of the latter, along the edge close to the cabinet, are two push buttons -- one abeled 10 and the other 12. Neither of us was aware that there were 2-inch diamond disks. Were Edison reproducers available for lateral records? as this an after-market modification? Thanks, Chris __ hono-L mailing list ttp://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
Re: [Phono-L] 12-Inch Button on Edison Disk Machine?
Interesting. The 10 - 12 buttons on my first DD also were on a BC-34. I've only ever seen them on that one and some Laboratory Model C-19's. Anyone out there have them on other models?? Andrew On Feb 23, 2012, at 1:33 PM, DanKj wrote: Twelve-inch discs were recorded in preparation for a new series, but the Long Playing program was decided upon,. instead. 12 masters had been recorded as far back as 1910, too. Problems with the gold- sputtering process supposedly stopped the early issue of 12inch Edisons, plus the fact that the 10inch discs already played as long as any competing discs. My Baby Console also has the 10-12 buttons never occurred to me that they were intended for stupid people, though . I doubt that the average person knew or cared what size were his phonograph records, any more than most people knew or cared how any machines worked. - Original Message - From: chris...@cox.net To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2012 11:32 AM Subject: [Phono-L] 12-Inch Button on Edison Disk Machine? A friend has a Laboratory Model diamond disk player. To the left of the platter, along the edge close to the cabinet, are two push buttons -- one labeled 10 and the other 12. Neither of us was aware that there were 12-inch diamond disks. Were Edison reproducers available for lateral records? Was this an after- market modification? Thanks, Chris ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
Re: [Phono-L] 12-Inch Button on Edison Disk Machine?
they are found on my IU-19 Italian Umbrian. Russ On 2012-02-23, at 4:25 PM, Andrew Baron wrote: Interesting. The 10 - 12 buttons on my first DD also were on a BC-34. I've only ever seen them on that one and some Laboratory Model C-19's. Anyone out there have them on other models?? Andrew ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
Re: [Phono-L] 12-Inch Button on Edison Disk Machine?
Thanks Russ. That is an unusual one. I appreciate your chiming in. Andrew Baron On Feb 23, 2012, at 7:55 PM, Russ Ridley wrote: they are found on my IU-19 Italian Umbrian. Russ On 2012-02-23, at 4:25 PM, Andrew Baron wrote: Interesting. The 10 - 12 buttons on my first DD also were on a BC-34. I've only ever seen them on that one and some Laboratory Model C-19's. Anyone out there have them on other models?? Andrew ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
Re: [Phono-L] 12-Inch Button on Edison Disk Machine?
I've seen them on Chippendale consoles and William and Mary consoles. Sent from my iPhone -- Peter pjfra...@mac.com On Feb 23, 2012, at 6:55 PM, Russ Ridley russrid...@shaw.ca wrote: they are found on my IU-19 Italian Umbrian. Russ On 2012-02-23, at 4:25 PM, Andrew Baron wrote: Interesting. The 10 - 12 buttons on my first DD also were on a BC-34. I've only ever seen them on that one and some Laboratory Model C-19's. Anyone out there have them on other models?? Andrew ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
