[Phono-L] Len Spencer's Lyceum
Most likely they were used for sing alongs between acts. They would be projected on a screen from a magic lantern and the audience would participate. Later, when animation came to be used, they added a bouncing ball to make it easier to follow the music. I assume Len Spencer owned a theatre somewhere named the Lyceum, most likely in his hometown or wherever his home base was. - Original Message - From: michael funk f...@insightbb.com To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Sent: Sunday, November 25, 2007 4:14 PM Subject: [Phono-L] Len Spencer's Lyceum I was cleaning out some boxes I had with old phono materials in them and came across a tin box full of glass slides illustrating lyrics or photos to a song. The box in embossed property of Len Spencer's Lyceum. How would these have been used at the Lyceum? To accompany singers and phonograph records as they played? Is it possible there was also an arcade that with a coin op machine that played a record and showed the glass slides (like a kinetescope)? I was not able to find anything with Google. Thanks in advance for your help, P.S. Mike and I had a fun project yesterday. We had bought a huge Nipper at Stanton's that has a speaker fixed inside with a screen in his neck area. We were able to combine the old speaker wire with new wire and hook it up to a CD player. We were thrilled to hear Fred Van Epps coming from Nipper! Suellen ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
[Phono-L] Len Spencer's Lyceum
- Original Message - From: George Glastris glast...@comcast.net To: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org Sent: Monday, November 26, 2007 7:50 AM Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Len Spencer's Lyceum I assume Len Spencer owned a theatre somewhere named the Lyceum, most likely in his hometown or wherever his home base was. I suspect it was a traveling act- I can easily see him traveling to theaters and halls doing talks and recitations. Eric Stott
[Phono-L] Len Spencer's Lyceum
It was in NYC. He suffered a fatal heart attack in his office there in 1914. Google Len Spencer's Lyceum and you will find his obit there in a link to the New York Times. His is the second obit in the column you download. From: glast...@comcast.net To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Len Spencer's Lyceum Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2007 06:50:07 -0600 Most likely they were used for sing alongs between acts. They would be projected on a screen from a magic lantern and the audience would participate. Later, when animation came to be used, they added a bouncing ball to make it easier to follow the music. I assume Len Spencer owned a theatre somewhere named the Lyceum, most likely in his hometown or wherever his home base was. - Original Message - From: michael funk f...@insightbb.com To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Sent: Sunday, November 25, 2007 4:14 PM Subject: [Phono-L] Len Spencer's Lyceum I was cleaning out some boxes I had with old phono materials in them and came across a tin box full of glass slides illustrating lyrics or photos to a song. The box in embossed property of Len Spencer's Lyceum. How would these have been used at the Lyceum? To accompany singers and phonograph records as they played? Is it possible there was also an arcade that with a coin op machine that played a record and showed the glass slides (like a kinetescope)? I was not able to find anything with Google. Thanks in advance for your help, P.S. Mike and I had a fun project yesterday. We had bought a huge Nipper at Stanton's that has a speaker fixed inside with a screen in his neck area. We were able to combine the old speaker wire with new wire and hook it up to a CD player. We were thrilled to hear Fred Van Epps coming from Nipper! Suellen ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org From bruce78...@comcast.net Mon Nov 26 06:28:42 2007 From: bruce78...@comcast.net (BruceY) Date: Mon Nov 26 06:27:50 2007 Subject: [Phono-L] Len Spencer's Lyceum References: 000901c82fb0$89a4fd20$6401a...@your4dacd0ea75 01bf01c8302a$e75a65c0$7d57c...@none05vofc1vwp Message-ID: 000f01c83038$a5bda470$6401a...@user52c8f93503 The Lyceum Theatre is the oldest contiunously operating theatre in NYC, at 149 West 45th Street in Midtown Manhatten. Per the interesting Funeral notice that I posted last week concerning Len Spencer's unusual Funeral Arrangement in December of 1914, his booking office was nearby at 245 West 42nd Street, so it is likely that Spencer probably owned the theatre for a time, or at least put on programs there. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lyceum_Theatre_(New_York) Bruce - Original Message - From: George Glastris glast...@comcast.net To: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org Sent: Monday, November 26, 2007 7:50 AM Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Len Spencer's Lyceum Most likely they were used for sing alongs between acts. They would be projected on a screen from a magic lantern and the audience would participate. Later, when animation came to be used, they added a bouncing ball to make it easier to follow the music. I assume Len Spencer owned a theatre somewhere named the Lyceum, most likely in his hometown or wherever his home base was. - Original Message - From: michael funk f...@insightbb.com To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Sent: Sunday, November 25, 2007 4:14 PM Subject: [Phono-L] Len Spencer's Lyceum I was cleaning out some boxes I had with old phono materials in them and came across a tin box full of glass slides illustrating lyrics or photos to a song. The box in embossed property of Len Spencer's Lyceum. How would these have been used at the Lyceum? To accompany singers and phonograph records as they played? Is it possible there was also an arcade that with a coin op machine that played a record and showed the glass slides (like a kinetescope)? I was not able to find anything with Google. Thanks in advance for your help, P.S. Mike and I had a fun project yesterday. We had bought a huge Nipper at Stanton's that has a speaker fixed inside with a screen in his neck area. We were able to combine the old speaker wire with new wire and hook it up to a CD player. We were thrilled to hear Fred Van Epps coming from Nipper! Suellen ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.16.7/1152 - Release Date: 11/26/2007 10:50 AM
[Phono-L] Len Spencer's Lyceum
The Lyceum Theatre is at - Original Message - From: George Glastris glast...@comcast.net To: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org Sent: Monday, November 26, 2007 7:50 AM Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Len Spencer's Lyceum Most likely they were used for sing alongs between acts. They would be projected on a screen from a magic lantern and the audience would participate. Later, when animation came to be used, they added a bouncing ball to make it easier to follow the music. I assume Len Spencer owned a theatre somewhere named the Lyceum, most likely in his hometown or wherever his home base was. - Original Message - From: michael funk f...@insightbb.com To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Sent: Sunday, November 25, 2007 4:14 PM Subject: [Phono-L] Len Spencer's Lyceum I was cleaning out some boxes I had with old phono materials in them and came across a tin box full of glass slides illustrating lyrics or photos to a song. The box in embossed property of Len Spencer's Lyceum. How would these have been used at the Lyceum? To accompany singers and phonograph records as they played? Is it possible there was also an arcade that with a coin op machine that played a record and showed the glass slides (like a kinetescope)? I was not able to find anything with Google. Thanks in advance for your help, P.S. Mike and I had a fun project yesterday. We had bought a huge Nipper at Stanton's that has a speaker fixed inside with a screen in his neck area. We were able to combine the old speaker wire with new wire and hook it up to a CD player. We were thrilled to hear Fred Van Epps coming from Nipper! Suellen ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.16.7/1152 - Release Date: 11/26/2007 10:50 AM
[Phono-L] Len Spencer's Lyceum
On Tim Gracyk's site, the page detailing what happened to recording artists states that Spencer was a doorman at the Lyceum at the time of his death, but the NYT obit I refer to would seem to contradict that. From: bruce78...@comcast.net To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Len Spencer's Lyceum Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2007 09:28:42 -0500 The Lyceum Theatre is the oldest contiunously operating theatre in NYC, at 149 West 45th Street in Midtown Manhatten. Per the interesting Funeral notice that I posted last week concerning Len Spencer's unusual Funeral Arrangement in December of 1914, his booking office was nearby at 245 West 42nd Street, so it is likely that Spencer probably owned the theatre for a time, or at least put on programs there. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lyceum_Theatre_(New_York) Bruce - Original Message - From: George Glastris glast...@comcast.net To: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org Sent: Monday, November 26, 2007 7:50 AM Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Len Spencer's Lyceum Most likely they were used for sing alongs between acts. They would be projected on a screen from a magic lantern and the audience would participate. Later, when animation came to be used, they added a bouncing ball to make it easier to follow the music. I assume Len Spencer owned a theatre somewhere named the Lyceum, most likely in his hometown or wherever his home base was. - Original Message - From: michael funk f...@insightbb.com To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Sent: Sunday, November 25, 2007 4:14 PM Subject: [Phono-L] Len Spencer's Lyceum I was cleaning out some boxes I had with old phono materials in them and came across a tin box full of glass slides illustrating lyrics or photos to a song. The box in embossed property of Len Spencer's Lyceum. How would these have been used at the Lyceum? To accompany singers and phonograph records as they played? Is it possible there was also an arcade that with a coin op machine that played a record and showed the glass slides (like a kinetescope)? I was not able to find anything with Google. Thanks in advance for your help, P.S. Mike and I had a fun project yesterday. We had bought a huge Nipper at Stanton's that has a speaker fixed inside with a screen in his neck area. We were able to combine the old speaker wire with new wire and hook it up to a CD player. We were thrilled to hear Fred Van Epps coming from Nipper! Suellen ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.16.7/1152 - Release Date: 11/26/2007 10:50 AM ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org From bruce78...@comcast.net Mon Nov 26 06:56:55 2007 From: bruce78...@comcast.net (BruceY) Date: Mon Nov 26 06:58:51 2007 Subject: [Phono-L] Len Spencer's Lyceum References: 000901c82fb0$89a4fd20$6401a...@your4dacd0ea7501bf01c8302a$e75a65c0$7d57c...@none05vofc1vwp blu112-w47f5824d385fc4eaf6a956dc...@phx.gbl Message-ID: 000801c8303c$972c6820$6401a...@user52c8f93503 He could have used these glass slides of songs as an aid to audition performers, since he ran this talent and booking agency and it was not a theatre. Bruce - Original Message - From: John Maeder appywan...@hotmail.com To: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org Sent: Monday, November 26, 2007 9:00 AM Subject: RE: [Phono-L] Len Spencer's Lyceum It was in NYC. He suffered a fatal heart attack in his office there in 1914. Google Len Spencer's Lyceum and you will find his obit there in a link to the New York Times. His is the second obit in the column you download. From: glast...@comcast.net To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Len Spencer's Lyceum Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2007 06:50:07 -0600 Most likely they were used for sing alongs between acts. They would be projected on a screen from a magic lantern and the audience would participate. Later, when animation came to be used, they added a bouncing ball to make it easier to follow the music. I assume Len Spencer owned a theatre somewhere named the Lyceum, most likely in his hometown or wherever his home base was. - Original Message - From: michael funk f...@insightbb.com To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Sent: Sunday, November 25, 2007 4:14 PM Subject: [Phono-L] Len Spencer's Lyceum I was cleaning out some boxes I had with old phono materials in them and came across a tin box full of glass slides illustrating lyrics or photos to a song. The box in embossed property of Len Spencer's Lyceum. How would these have been used at the Lyceum
[Phono-L] Len Spencer's Lyceum
Ok, here is the text of G.W. Johnson's death: Rumors have alleged that the first Black recording star died either in a racism motivated lynching, or alternatively that he was hanged after he committed murder. Neither story is true. George W. Johnson died apparently of natural causes, while in the employ of Len Spencer as doorman for the Lyceum Theater in Manhattan. - Original Message - From: John Maeder appywan...@hotmail.com To: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org Sent: Monday, November 26, 2007 9:55 AM Subject: RE: [Phono-L] Len Spencer's Lyceum On Tim Gracyk's site, the page detailing what happened to recording artists states that Spencer was a doorman at the Lyceum at the time of his death, but the NYT obit I refer to would seem to contradict that. From: bruce78...@comcast.net To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Len Spencer's Lyceum Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2007 09:28:42 -0500 The Lyceum Theatre is the oldest contiunously operating theatre in NYC, at 149 West 45th Street in Midtown Manhatten. Per the interesting Funeral notice that I posted last week concerning Len Spencer's unusual Funeral Arrangement in December of 1914, his booking office was nearby at 245 West 42nd Street, so it is likely that Spencer probably owned the theatre for a time, or at least put on programs there. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lyceum_Theatre_(New_York) Bruce - Original Message - From: George Glastris glast...@comcast.net To: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org Sent: Monday, November 26, 2007 7:50 AM Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Len Spencer's Lyceum Most likely they were used for sing alongs between acts. They would be projected on a screen from a magic lantern and the audience would participate. Later, when animation came to be used, they added a bouncing ball to make it easier to follow the music. I assume Len Spencer owned a theatre somewhere named the Lyceum, most likely in his hometown or wherever his home base was. - Original Message - From: michael funk f...@insightbb.com To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Sent: Sunday, November 25, 2007 4:14 PM Subject: [Phono-L] Len Spencer's Lyceum I was cleaning out some boxes I had with old phono materials in them and came across a tin box full of glass slides illustrating lyrics or photos to a song. The box in embossed property of Len Spencer's Lyceum. How would these have been used at the Lyceum? To accompany singers and phonograph records as they played? Is it possible there was also an arcade that with a coin op machine that played a record and showed the glass slides (like a kinetescope)? I was not able to find anything with Google. Thanks in advance for your help, P.S. Mike and I had a fun project yesterday. We had bought a huge Nipper at Stanton's that has a speaker fixed inside with a screen in his neck area. We were able to combine the old speaker wire with new wire and hook it up to a CD player. We were thrilled to hear Fred Van Epps coming from Nipper! Suellen ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.16.7/1152 - Release Date: 11/26/2007 10:50 AM ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.16.7/1152 - Release Date: 11/26/2007 10:50 AM
[Phono-L] Len Spencer's Lyceum
Hmmm I think there is some confusion here. From what I understand, Spencer's friend and fellow entertainer George W. Johnson, the first black ever to make a phonograph record, had the job as doorman, and he also had a room there as well. Bruce - Original Message - From: John Maeder appywan...@hotmail.com To: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org Sent: Monday, November 26, 2007 9:55 AM Subject: RE: [Phono-L] Len Spencer's Lyceum On Tim Gracyk's site, the page detailing what happened to recording artists states that Spencer was a doorman at the Lyceum at the time of his death, but the NYT obit I refer to would seem to contradict that. From: bruce78...@comcast.net To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Len Spencer's Lyceum Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2007 09:28:42 -0500 The Lyceum Theatre is the oldest contiunously operating theatre in NYC, at 149 West 45th Street in Midtown Manhatten. Per the interesting Funeral notice that I posted last week concerning Len Spencer's unusual Funeral Arrangement in December of 1914, his booking office was nearby at 245 West 42nd Street, so it is likely that Spencer probably owned the theatre for a time, or at least put on programs there. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lyceum_Theatre_(New_York) Bruce - Original Message - From: George Glastris glast...@comcast.net To: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org Sent: Monday, November 26, 2007 7:50 AM Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Len Spencer's Lyceum Most likely they were used for sing alongs between acts. They would be projected on a screen from a magic lantern and the audience would participate. Later, when animation came to be used, they added a bouncing ball to make it easier to follow the music. I assume Len Spencer owned a theatre somewhere named the Lyceum, most likely in his hometown or wherever his home base was. - Original Message - From: michael funk f...@insightbb.com To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Sent: Sunday, November 25, 2007 4:14 PM Subject: [Phono-L] Len Spencer's Lyceum I was cleaning out some boxes I had with old phono materials in them and came across a tin box full of glass slides illustrating lyrics or photos to a song. The box in embossed property of Len Spencer's Lyceum. How would these have been used at the Lyceum? To accompany singers and phonograph records as they played? Is it possible there was also an arcade that with a coin op machine that played a record and showed the glass slides (like a kinetescope)? I was not able to find anything with Google. Thanks in advance for your help, P.S. Mike and I had a fun project yesterday. We had bought a huge Nipper at Stanton's that has a speaker fixed inside with a screen in his neck area. We were able to combine the old speaker wire with new wire and hook it up to a CD player. We were thrilled to hear Fred Van Epps coming from Nipper! Suellen ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.16.7/1152 - Release Date: 11/26/2007 10:50 AM ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.16.7/1152 - Release Date: 11/26/2007 10:50 AM
[Phono-L] Len Spencer's Lyceum
Ok, for those who are interested, here is the full text of it. Spencer indeed had hired Johnson as the doorman at the Lyceum, and Johnson also had a room there. Johnson died in January of 1914 followed by Spencer who died there that same year in December. Fred Rabenstein, Edison's longtime paymaster, provided Jim Walsh this description of George W. Johnson's final years with his old recording partner Len Spencer in New York: When Len opened his Lyceum he had a doorman in full regalia--he was none other than George W. Johnson (who made the old laughing song records). George was something to behold in his full dress admiral (or was it general?) uniform. It was all right for a while--George had a room at the Lyceum, but after they moved from 14th Street up to 28th Street things caught up with George. He used to run errands and always being a little short of cash he used to borrow money from clients. He never paid back and after a while he was afraid to go to some of the places. George could only do the 'Laughing Song,' and therefore it was hard for him to pick up extra money. Then he liked to drink. After George died Len started to clean out the room and in the closet they found remains of many lunches (bread, bottles, ham, etc.), including roaches and other livestock. Len didn't get another doorman, but had an office boy. We understood that Len treated George all right, but was afraid to let him have much money because the 'doorman' would be indisposed for several days afterwards. George W. Johnson passed away in 1914, followed a few months later by Len Spencer. - Original Message - From: John Maeder appywan...@hotmail.com To: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org Sent: Monday, November 26, 2007 9:55 AM Subject: RE: [Phono-L] Len Spencer's Lyceum On Tim Gracyk's site, the page detailing what happened to recording artists states that Spencer was a doorman at the Lyceum at the time of his death, but the NYT obit I refer to would seem to contradict that. From: bruce78...@comcast.net To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Len Spencer's Lyceum Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2007 09:28:42 -0500 The Lyceum Theatre is the oldest contiunously operating theatre in NYC, at 149 West 45th Street in Midtown Manhatten. Per the interesting Funeral notice that I posted last week concerning Len Spencer's unusual Funeral Arrangement in December of 1914, his booking office was nearby at 245 West 42nd Street, so it is likely that Spencer probably owned the theatre for a time, or at least put on programs there. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lyceum_Theatre_(New_York) Bruce - Original Message - From: George Glastris glast...@comcast.net To: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org Sent: Monday, November 26, 2007 7:50 AM Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Len Spencer's Lyceum Most likely they were used for sing alongs between acts. They would be projected on a screen from a magic lantern and the audience would participate. Later, when animation came to be used, they added a bouncing ball to make it easier to follow the music. I assume Len Spencer owned a theatre somewhere named the Lyceum, most likely in his hometown or wherever his home base was. - Original Message - From: michael funk f...@insightbb.com To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Sent: Sunday, November 25, 2007 4:14 PM Subject: [Phono-L] Len Spencer's Lyceum I was cleaning out some boxes I had with old phono materials in them and came across a tin box full of glass slides illustrating lyrics or photos to a song. The box in embossed property of Len Spencer's Lyceum. How would these have been used at the Lyceum? To accompany singers and phonograph records as they played? Is it possible there was also an arcade that with a coin op machine that played a record and showed the glass slides (like a kinetescope)? I was not able to find anything with Google. Thanks in advance for your help, P.S. Mike and I had a fun project yesterday. We had bought a huge Nipper at Stanton's that has a speaker fixed inside with a screen in his neck area. We were able to combine the old speaker wire with new wire and hook it up to a CD player. We were thrilled to hear Fred Van Epps coming from Nipper! Suellen ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.16.7/1152 - Release Date: 11/26/2007 10:50 AM ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org -- No virus found in this incoming
[Phono-L] LEN SPENCER'S LYCEUM
The indication to Note Condition Carefully strongly suggests these were for use outside of the theater in the hands of strangers. I'm going to go out on a limb and propose that Spencer had packaged shows to be sent out on the Lyceum Circuit from hall to hall. The state of New York had sets of educational lantern slides that could be rented by cultural institutions, along with lecture scripts- these came in similar boxes (cardboard, with an outer wooden case) and had checklists to follow. Eric Stott - Original Message - From: michael funk f...@insightbb.com To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Sent: Monday, November 26, 2007 2:08 PM Subject: [Phono-L] LEN SPENCER'S LYCEUM Sorry for the slow load and the large images that first appear. Eventually the images will go into a viewable size. The address on the box is 46 East 14th Street. The address for the Lyceum is 149 W. 45th St. Could there have been 2 Lyceum's? One with Len Spencer (maybe an arcade or music parlor) and one with the Name acts. http://www.cash-on-the-barrelhead.com/DSC01197.JPG http://www.cash-on-the-barrelhead.com/DSC01193.JPG http://www.cash-on-the-barrelhead.com/DSC01194.JPG I bought the box about 10 years ago at an antique mall in the Midwest. Suellen ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
[Phono-L] LEN SPENCER'S LYCEUM
I am not sure I can draw any conclusions from the condition of the paper on the box. It probably has been floating around for some time. I know I bought it for the beautiful hand painted slides inside and it was offered at the antique mall as a container for them. That being said though I do wish I knew more about the time the slides were used. Len Spencer's obit (which was on Phono-L a week or two ago) says he was a booking agent and theatrical manager at the time of his death (1914). The address of his agency and where he died is the same as on the box. I guess checking the NYC directories could tell me how long he had an office there. Possibly also the directories would say what the nature of the business was. It would also be great to look at old newspapers of the time to see if he advertised an arcade business. I am just too far away from NY to follow up on this. I don't believe Spencer's Lyceum is the same as the NY Lyceum. The article on Wickipedia does not list Spencer as the owner (or one in the sequence of owners.) Any info anyone can give me would be much appreciated. Suellen -Original Message- From: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org] On Behalf Of estott Sent: Monday, November 26, 2007 2:14 PM To: Antique Phonograph List Subject: Re: [Phono-L] LEN SPENCER'S LYCEUM The indication to Note Condition Carefully strongly suggests these were for use outside of the theater in the hands of strangers. I'm going to go out on a limb and propose that Spencer had packaged shows to be sent out on the Lyceum Circuit from hall to hall. The state of New York had sets of educational lantern slides that could be rented by cultural institutions, along with lecture scripts- these came in similar boxes (cardboard, with an outer wooden case) and had checklists to follow. Eric Stott - Original Message - From: michael funk f...@insightbb.com To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Sent: Monday, November 26, 2007 2:08 PM Subject: [Phono-L] LEN SPENCER'S LYCEUM Sorry for the slow load and the large images that first appear. Eventually the images will go into a viewable size. The address on the box is 46 East 14th Street. The address for the Lyceum is 149 W. 45th St. Could there have been 2 Lyceum's? One with Len Spencer (maybe an arcade or music parlor) and one with the Name acts. http://www.cash-on-the-barrelhead.com/DSC01197.JPG http://www.cash-on-the-barrelhead.com/DSC01193.JPG http://www.cash-on-the-barrelhead.com/DSC01194.JPG I bought the box about 10 years ago at an antique mall in the Midwest. Suellen ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org From bruce78...@comcast.net Mon Nov 26 18:27:18 2007 From: bruce78...@comcast.net (BruceY) Date: Mon Nov 26 18:26:28 2007 Subject: [Phono-L] A genuine Victor FrakenIV Message-ID: 004b01c8309d$092641c0$6401a...@user52c8f93503 How sad, it is a FankenIV Victor Crapanola!! http://cgi.ebay.com/ANTIQUE-1912-VICTOR-TALKING-MACHINE-PHONOGRAPH-W-HORN_W0QQitemZ200176376235QQihZ010QQcategoryZ38030QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem From lhera...@bu.edu Mon Nov 26 19:25:16 2007 From: lhera...@bu.edu (Ron L'Herault) Date: Mon Nov 26 20:25:57 2007 Subject: [Phono-L] A genuine Victor FrakenIV In-Reply-To: 004b01c8309d$092641c0$6401a...@user52c8f93503 Message-ID: 000701c830a5$251b91c0$2f01a...@ronlherault So, are the bidders going after the Ortho reproducer? Ron L -Original Message- From: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org] On Behalf Of BruceY Sent: Monday, November 26, 2007 9:27 PM To: Antique Phonograph List Subject: [Phono-L] A genuine Victor FrakenIV How sad, it is a FankenIV Victor Crapanola!! http://cgi.ebay.com/ANTIQUE-1912-VICTOR-TALKING-MACHINE-PHONOGRAPH-W-HORN_W0 QQitemZ200176376235QQihZ010QQcategoryZ38030QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZView Item ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org