[Phono-L] My Victor V

2006-12-24 Thread Carter, Keith
Hello All,
I told everyone about my Victor V Find for about $1000.00 about 1 ? months
ago and wanted to know about restoring and repairing the motor and Oak Spear
Tip horn.
Well, I had the horn restored and looks GREAT. REALLY GREAT.
I also had the motor redone. Before I could only get about 60 cranks and
then you could hear the spring unwind. Someone told me on the list that the
springs in the back might be broke.
Here is what it was.
The guy that fixed the motor said the last two springs were unhooked.
SOOO:
I now have a problem with the motor after I got it back from repair, (WHICH
IS WHY I AM WRITING TO EVERYONE ON THE LIST FOR HELP) :
Sometimes with a full crank the turntable won't even start to turn.
OR, when I crank the motor up the record slows down then speeds up. It won't
keep an even speed. 

When I only had use of one spring before I took it in for repair, I could at
least play 3 sides of records  before winding it up again. NOW with the
springs fixed, I am lucky to get 1 side to play. I have to help the
turntable to get started. The record starts to play then you hear it slow
down then speed back up again. Does this several times just playing one
side.
I also hear some small noise (nothing hitting that I can tell) inside. I
don't see where the governor is hitting anything. That seems to be okay.
MAYBE THE PROBLEM:
Could the guy that repaired the motor put too much grease in the casing?
Should he have replaced the springs with heavier ones? 

Can use your help.
Thanks,
Keith Carter


[Phono-L] My Victor V

2006-12-24 Thread Loran T. Hughes
Keith,

My guess would be that the governor needs adjustment. It may be binding
in the end bearings. The governor should have a small amount of play.
Also, make sure the bearings are lubricated with a drop of light (sewing
machine type) oil.

Loran 

On Fri, 2004-04-16 at 04:59, Carter, Keith wrote:
> Hello All,
> I told everyone about my Victor V Find for about $1000.00 about 1 ? months
> ago and wanted to know about restoring and repairing the motor and Oak Spear
> Tip horn.
> Well, I had the horn restored and looks GREAT. REALLY GREAT.
> I also had the motor redone. Before I could only get about 60 cranks and
> then you could hear the spring unwind. Someone told me on the list that the
> springs in the back might be broke.
> Here is what it was.
> The guy that fixed the motor said the last two springs were unhooked.
> SOOO:
> I now have a problem with the motor after I got it back from repair, (WHICH
> IS WHY I AM WRITING TO EVERYONE ON THE LIST FOR HELP) :
> Sometimes with a full crank the turntable won't even start to turn.
> OR, when I crank the motor up the record slows down then speeds up. It won't
> keep an even speed. 
> 
> When I only had use of one spring before I took it in for repair, I could at
> least play 3 sides of records  before winding it up again. NOW with the
> springs fixed, I am lucky to get 1 side to play. I have to help the
> turntable to get started. The record starts to play then you hear it slow
> down then speed back up again. Does this several times just playing one
> side.
> I also hear some small noise (nothing hitting that I can tell) inside. I
> don't see where the governor is hitting anything. That seems to be okay.
> MAYBE THE PROBLEM:
> Could the guy that repaired the motor put too much grease in the casing?
> Should he have replaced the springs with heavier ones? 
> 
> Can use your help.
> Thanks,
> Keith Carter



[Phono-L] My Victor V

2006-12-24 Thread Carter, Keith
I looked at that last night and it seems to be ok.
I used a couple drops of light sewing machine oil at each end and where the
governor moves back and forth. Also made sure there was very little play
back and forth of the center shaft in the governor.
I plan on taking it back to him when he finishes putting another spring in
my Victor I. But I thought I could try something easy that might work
instead of hauling it back over to him.
Thanks,
keith 

-Original Message-
From: Loran T. Hughes [mailto:lo...@oldcrank.com] 
Sent: Friday, April 16, 2004 1:17 PM
To: Antique Phonograph List
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] My Victor V

Keith,

My guess would be that the governor needs adjustment. It may be binding
in the end bearings. The governor should have a small amount of play.
Also, make sure the bearings are lubricated with a drop of light (sewing
machine type) oil.

Loran 

On Fri, 2004-04-16 at 04:59, Carter, Keith wrote:
> Hello All,
> I told everyone about my Victor V Find for about $1000.00 about 1 ? months
> ago and wanted to know about restoring and repairing the motor and Oak
Spear
> Tip horn.
> Well, I had the horn restored and looks GREAT. REALLY GREAT.
> I also had the motor redone. Before I could only get about 60 cranks and
> then you could hear the spring unwind. Someone told me on the list that
the
> springs in the back might be broke.
> Here is what it was.
> The guy that fixed the motor said the last two springs were unhooked.
> SOOO:
> I now have a problem with the motor after I got it back from repair,
(WHICH
> IS WHY I AM WRITING TO EVERYONE ON THE LIST FOR HELP) :
> Sometimes with a full crank the turntable won't even start to turn.
> OR, when I crank the motor up the record slows down then speeds up. It
won't
> keep an even speed. 
> 
> When I only had use of one spring before I took it in for repair, I could
at
> least play 3 sides of records  before winding it up again. NOW with the
> springs fixed, I am lucky to get 1 side to play. I have to help the
> turntable to get started. The record starts to play then you hear it slow
> down then speed back up again. Does this several times just playing one
> side.
> I also hear some small noise (nothing hitting that I can tell) inside. I
> don't see where the governor is hitting anything. That seems to be okay.
> MAYBE THE PROBLEM:
> Could the guy that repaired the motor put too much grease in the casing?
> Should he have replaced the springs with heavier ones? 
> 
> Can use your help.
> Thanks,
> Keith Carter


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From mike  Fri Apr 16 13:38:31 2004
From: mike (Mike Stitt)
Date: Sun Dec 24 13:10:38 2006
Subject: [Phono-L] My Victor V
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Kieth,
Make sure that the ball bearing is still below the spindle shaft. You may
want to look at the spindle gear. They seem to "run better" if the gear is
above or below the governor shaft  "spiral" center line.Check for binding
barrels
Mike  aka oldcranky
It is not a spur motor right?
----- Original Message -
From: "Carter, Keith" 
To: "'Antique Phonograph List'" 
Sent: Friday, April 16, 2004 10:24 AM
Subject: RE: [Phono-L] My Victor V


I looked at that last night and it seems to be ok.
I used a couple drops of light sewing machine oil at each end and where the
governor moves back and forth. Also made sure there was very little play
back and forth of the center shaft in the governor.




[Phono-L] My Victor V

2006-12-24 Thread Carter, Keith
I couldn't tell you

-Original Message-
From: Mike Stitt [mailto:m...@oldcranky.com] 
you asked: It is not a spur motor right?
I couldn't tell you.I only know it's a 3 spring
I don't know if you can get any info from out of the data book 
but the serial # of the phono is 43541.
keith 


Sent: Friday, April 16, 2004 2:39 PM
To: Antique Phonograph List
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] My Victor V

Kieth,
Make sure that the ball bearing is still below the spindle shaft. You may
want to look at the spindle gear. They seem to "run better" if the gear is
above or below the governor shaft  "spiral" center line.Check for binding
barrels
Mike  aka oldcranky
It is not a spur motor right?
- Original Message -
From: "Carter, Keith" 
To: "'Antique Phonograph List'" 
Sent: Friday, April 16, 2004 10:24 AM
Subject: RE: [Phono-L] My Victor V


I looked at that last night and it seems to be ok.
I used a couple drops of light sewing machine oil at each end and where the
governor moves back and forth. Also made sure there was very little play
back and forth of the center shaft in the governor.



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From steve_noreen  Fri Apr 16 14:40:15 2004
From: steve_noreen (Steven Medved)
Date: Sun Dec 24 13:10:38 2006
Subject: [Phono-L] Edison DD reproducers
Message-ID: 

Hi,

How common are the earliest type of DD reproducer that look somewhat similar 
to the diamond B with regards to the shoulders being part of the weight?

Steve 


[Phono-L] My Victor V

2006-12-24 Thread Mike Stitt
Sorry Keith! I before E ...except after C
Mike