Re: [Phono-L] Potential Fraud - Beware (?)
hi all we have had that problem here a lot in florida the police recommend you meet at the police dept to do your exchange if you buy from craigs list In a message dated 1/14/2011 9:08:28 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, vinyl.visi...@live.com writes: Beware of Craigslist also... the old saying If it sounds too good to be true... You might find a bargain, but be careful. On that note, a collector from NC just found a Regina-Phone for $1,200, so you never know. Also, if you list on Craigslist - NEVER meet someone at your house - if you are going to meet, go to McDonald's or a public place. A friend of mine had a number of high end phonographs stolen from his home because of that. Fortunately, he got the NC SBI involved and they recovered all but one, just a day before they were leaving the country. From: steve_nor...@msn.com To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2011 19:05:43 -0500 Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Potential Fraud - Beware (?) Before eBay hid the buyers ID I bid on an Alva to see the final price and get photos. A man wrote and told me he had a number of Alvas in stock and would be happy to sell me one for $1500. Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2011 12:20:25 -0800 From: hexaph...@sbcglobal.net To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Potential Fraud - Beware (?) I suspect the motor doesn't exist, thus I'd never get it. He keeps avoiding my request for a picture to validate whether it is a correct one. It seems there are scammers scouring the various boards on the net including phonograph forums. I prefer to keep to those I am familar with. Ron --- On Fri, 1/14/11, Ron L'Herault lhera...@bu.edu wrote: From: Ron L'Herault lhera...@bu.edu Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Potential Fraud - Beware (?) To: 'Antique Phonograph List' phono-l@oldcrank.org Date: Friday, January 14, 2011, 1:49 PM Did you ever get the motor? Is it different from the usual spring motors for Victors of that period? Ron L -Original Message- From: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org] On Behalf Of hexaph...@sbcglobal.net Sent: Friday, January 14, 2011 1:56 PM To: Antique Phonograph List Subject: [Phono-L] Potential Fraud - Beware (?) Hi all. On one of the phonograph forums I had a Wanted notice indicating I was looking for a Victrola Orthophonic 8-9 motor. I received a response from a Brian Kidd. His email is bra...@blumail.org . This one has all the red flags waving. He keeps spelling his own name incorrectly for one. He is located in Italy and wants a money gram or western union payment and his pricing is way out of line i.e. not even reasonable. He wanted 690 euro or more than $900 for a motor of which, of course, he had in stock. Playing along, I asked for pictures. None have been provided (surprise). Anyone else familar with this individual? I would assume he is responding to other people looking for items. Just for a final amusement, I sent him an email stating I would most certainly send a western union for the full amount once I received the product. I am waiting for my reply. Beware. Ron ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
[Phono-L] Potential Fraud - Beware (?)
Hi all. On one of the phonograph forums I had a Wanted notice indicating I was looking for a Victrola Orthophonic 8-9 motor. I received a response from a Brian Kidd. His email is bra...@blumail.org . This one has all the red flags waving. He keeps spelling his own name incorrectly for one. He is located in Italy and wants a money gram or western union payment and his pricing is way out of line i.e. not even reasonable. He wanted 690 euro or more than $900 for a motor of which, of course, he had in stock. Playing along, I asked for pictures. None have been provided (surprise). Anyone else familar with this individual? I would assume he is responding to other people looking for items. Just for a final amusement, I sent him an email stating I would most certainly send a western union for the full amount once I received the product. I am waiting for my reply. Beware. Ron ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
Re: [Phono-L] Potential Fraud - Beware (?)
Did you ever get the motor? Is it different from the usual spring motors for Victors of that period? Ron L -Original Message- From: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org] On Behalf Of hexaph...@sbcglobal.net Sent: Friday, January 14, 2011 1:56 PM To: Antique Phonograph List Subject: [Phono-L] Potential Fraud - Beware (?) Hi all. On one of the phonograph forums I had a Wanted notice indicating I was looking for a Victrola Orthophonic 8-9 motor. I received a response from a Brian Kidd. His email is bra...@blumail.org . This one has all the red flags waving. He keeps spelling his own name incorrectly for one. He is located in Italy and wants a money gram or western union payment and his pricing is way out of line i.e. not even reasonable. He wanted 690 euro or more than $900 for a motor of which, of course, he had in stock. Playing along, I asked for pictures. None have been provided (surprise). Anyone else familar with this individual? I would assume he is responding to other people looking for items. Just for a final amusement, I sent him an email stating I would most certainly send a western union for the full amount once I received the product. I am waiting for my reply. Beware. Ron ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
Re: [Phono-L] Potential Fraud - Beware (?)
Hi Ron, I think that there is some Nigerian prince that has one also... It's free - all you need to do is send him your checking account information, a VISA card number for reference and a certified check for the import duty of $350.00 (much cheaper than the guy in Italy) :) Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2011 10:56:09 -0800 From: hexaph...@sbcglobal.net To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Subject: [Phono-L] Potential Fraud - Beware (?) Hi all. On one of the phonograph forums I had a Wanted notice indicating I was looking for a Victrola Orthophonic 8-9 motor. I received a response from a Brian Kidd. His email is bra...@blumail.org . This one has all the red flags waving. He keeps spelling his own name incorrectly for one. He is located in Italy and wants a money gram or western union payment and his pricing is way out of line i.e. not even reasonable. He wanted 690 euro or more than $900 for a motor of which, of course, he had in stock. Playing along, I asked for pictures. None have been provided (surprise). Anyone else familar with this individual? I would assume he is responding to other people looking for items. Just for a final amusement, I sent him an email stating I would most certainly send a western union for the full amount once I received the product. I am waiting for my reply. Beware. Ron ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
Re: [Phono-L] Potential Fraud - Beware (?)
I suspect the motor doesn't exist, thus I'd never get it. He keeps avoiding my request for a picture to validate whether it is a correct one. It seems there are scammers scouring the various boards on the net including phonograph forums. I prefer to keep to those I am familar with. Ron --- On Fri, 1/14/11, Ron L'Herault lhera...@bu.edu wrote: From: Ron L'Herault lhera...@bu.edu Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Potential Fraud - Beware (?) To: 'Antique Phonograph List' phono-l@oldcrank.org Date: Friday, January 14, 2011, 1:49 PM Did you ever get the motor? Is it different from the usual spring motors for Victors of that period? Ron L -Original Message- From: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org] On Behalf Of hexaph...@sbcglobal.net Sent: Friday, January 14, 2011 1:56 PM To: Antique Phonograph List Subject: [Phono-L] Potential Fraud - Beware (?) Hi all. On one of the phonograph forums I had a Wanted notice indicating I was looking for a Victrola Orthophonic 8-9 motor. I received a response from a Brian Kidd. His email is bra...@blumail.org . This one has all the red flags waving. He keeps spelling his own name incorrectly for one. He is located in Italy and wants a money gram or western union payment and his pricing is way out of line i.e. not even reasonable. He wanted 690 euro or more than $900 for a motor of which, of course, he had in stock. Playing along, I asked for pictures. None have been provided (surprise). Anyone else familar with this individual? I would assume he is responding to other people looking for items. Just for a final amusement, I sent him an email stating I would most certainly send a western union for the full amount once I received the product. I am waiting for my reply. Beware. Ron ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
Re: [Phono-L] Potential Fraud - Beware (?)
Yes, in Nigeria you wear a badge of honor depending on how many stupid Americans you are able to swindle out of as much money as possible in these fraudulent schemes. - Original Message - From: Vinyl Visions vinyl.visi...@live.com To: phono-l@ oldcrank .org Sent: Friday, January 14, 2011 3:16:45 PM Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Potential Fraud - Beware (?) Hi Ron, I think that there is some Nigerian prince that has one also... It's free - all you need to do is send him your checking account information, a VISA card number for reference and a certified check for the import duty of $350.00 (much cheaper than the guy in Italy) :) Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2011 10:56:09 -0800 From: hexaphone @ sbcglobal .net To: phono-l@ oldcrank .org Subject: [Phono-L] Potential Fraud - Beware (?) Hi all. On one of the phonograph forums I had a Wanted notice indicating I was looking for a Victrola Orthophonic 8-9 motor. I received a response from a Brian Kidd. His email is brain1@ blumail .org . This one has all the red flags waving. He keeps spelling his own name incorrectly for one. He is located in Italy and wants a money gram or western union payment and his pricing is way out of line i.e. not even reasonable. He wanted 690 euro or more than $900 for a motor of which, of course, he had in stock. Playing along, I asked for pictures. None have been provided (surprise). Anyone else familar with this individual? I would assume he is responding to other people looking for items. Just for a final amusement, I sent him an email stating I would most certainly send a western union for the full amount once I received the product. I am waiting for my reply. Beware. Ron ___ Phono-L mailing list http ://phono-l. oldcrank .org ___ Phono-L mailing list http ://phono-l. oldcrank .org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
Re: [Phono-L] Potential Fraud - Beware (?)
Before eBay hid the buyers ID I bid on an Alva to see the final price and get photos. A man wrote and told me he had a number of Alvas in stock and would be happy to sell me one for $1500. Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2011 12:20:25 -0800 From: hexaph...@sbcglobal.net To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Potential Fraud - Beware (?) I suspect the motor doesn't exist, thus I'd never get it. He keeps avoiding my request for a picture to validate whether it is a correct one. It seems there are scammers scouring the various boards on the net including phonograph forums. I prefer to keep to those I am familar with. Ron --- On Fri, 1/14/11, Ron L'Herault lhera...@bu.edu wrote: From: Ron L'Herault lhera...@bu.edu Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Potential Fraud - Beware (?) To: 'Antique Phonograph List' phono-l@oldcrank.org Date: Friday, January 14, 2011, 1:49 PM Did you ever get the motor? Is it different from the usual spring motors for Victors of that period? Ron L -Original Message- From: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org] On Behalf Of hexaph...@sbcglobal.net Sent: Friday, January 14, 2011 1:56 PM To: Antique Phonograph List Subject: [Phono-L] Potential Fraud - Beware (?) Hi all. On one of the phonograph forums I had a Wanted notice indicating I was looking for a Victrola Orthophonic 8-9 motor. I received a response from a Brian Kidd. His email is bra...@blumail.org . This one has all the red flags waving. He keeps spelling his own name incorrectly for one. He is located in Italy and wants a money gram or western union payment and his pricing is way out of line i.e. not even reasonable. He wanted 690 euro or more than $900 for a motor of which, of course, he had in stock. Playing along, I asked for pictures. None have been provided (surprise). Anyone else familar with this individual? I would assume he is responding to other people looking for items. Just for a final amusement, I sent him an email stating I would most certainly send a western union for the full amount once I received the product. I am waiting for my reply. Beware. Ron ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
Re: [Phono-L] Potential Fraud - Beware (?)
Get an extra one for me and I'll give you an extra $50 for your trouble. :-P John Robles -Original Message- From: Steven Medved steve_nor...@msn.com Sender: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2011 19:05:43 To: Phono-lphono-l@oldcrank.org Reply-To: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Potential Fraud - Beware (?) Before eBay hid the buyers ID I bid on an Alva to see the final price and get photos. A man wrote and told me he had a number of Alvas in stock and would be happy to sell me one for $1500. Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2011 12:20:25 -0800 From: hexaph...@sbcglobal.net To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Potential Fraud - Beware (?) I suspect the motor doesn't exist, thus I'd never get it. He keeps avoiding my request for a picture to validate whether it is a correct one. It seems there are scammers scouring the various boards on the net including phonograph forums. I prefer to keep to those I am familar with. Ron --- On Fri, 1/14/11, Ron L'Herault lhera...@bu.edu wrote: From: Ron L'Herault lhera...@bu.edu Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Potential Fraud - Beware (?) To: 'Antique Phonograph List' phono-l@oldcrank.org Date: Friday, January 14, 2011, 1:49 PM Did you ever get the motor? Is it different from the usual spring motors for Victors of that period? Ron L -Original Message- From: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org] On Behalf Of hexaph...@sbcglobal.net Sent: Friday, January 14, 2011 1:56 PM To: Antique Phonograph List Subject: [Phono-L] Potential Fraud - Beware (?) Hi all. On one of the phonograph forums I had a Wanted notice indicating I was looking for a Victrola Orthophonic 8-9 motor. I received a response from a Brian Kidd. His email is bra...@blumail.org . This one has all the red flags waving. He keeps spelling his own name incorrectly for one. He is located in Italy and wants a money gram or western union payment and his pricing is way out of line i.e. not even reasonable. He wanted 690 euro or more than $900 for a motor of which, of course, he had in stock. Playing along, I asked for pictures. None have been provided (surprise). Anyone else familar with this individual? I would assume he is responding to other people looking for items. Just for a final amusement, I sent him an email stating I would most certainly send a western union for the full amount once I received the product. I am waiting for my reply. Beware. Ron ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
Re: [Phono-L] Potential Fraud - Beware (?)
The sad thing is there probably are enough stupid Americans to provide these people an incentive. It also highlights the value of this list and the poeple on it. Having such a resource is invaluable. Ron --- On Fri, 1/14/11, bruce78...@comcast.net bruce78...@comcast.net wrote: From: bruce78...@comcast.net bruce78...@comcast.net Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Potential Fraud - Beware (?) To: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org Date: Friday, January 14, 2011, 2:53 PM Yes, in Nigeria you wear a badge of honor depending on how many stupid Americans you are able to swindle out of as much money as possible in these fraudulent schemes. - Original Message - From: Vinyl Visions vinyl.visi...@live.com To: phono-l@ oldcrank .org Sent: Friday, January 14, 2011 3:16:45 PM Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Potential Fraud - Beware (?) Hi Ron, I think that there is some Nigerian prince that has one also... It's free - all you need to do is send him your checking account information, a VISA card number for reference and a certified check for the import duty of $350.00 (much cheaper than the guy in Italy) :) Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2011 10:56:09 -0800 From: hexaphone @ sbcglobal .net To: phono-l@ oldcrank .org Subject: [Phono-L] Potential Fraud - Beware (?) Hi all. On one of the phonograph forums I had a Wanted notice indicating I was looking for a Victrola Orthophonic 8-9 motor. I received a response from a Brian Kidd. His email is brain1@ blumail .org . This one has all the red flags waving. He keeps spelling his own name incorrectly for one. He is located in Italy and wants a money gram or western union payment and his pricing is way out of line i.e. not even reasonable. He wanted 690 euro or more than $900 for a motor of which, of course, he had in stock. Playing along, I asked for pictures. None have been provided (surprise). Anyone else familar with this individual? I would assume he is responding to other people looking for items. Just for a final amusement, I sent him an email stating I would most certainly send a western union for the full amount once I received the product. I am waiting for my reply. Beware. Ron ___ Phono-L mailing list http ://phono-l. oldcrank .org ___ Phono-L mailing list http ://phono-l. oldcrank .org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
Re: [Phono-L] Potential Fraud - Beware (?)
Unfortunately, you are right... I have a client who was recently called on the telephone by a guy who claimed she had won the Publisher's Clearing House big prize. All she had to do was to meet the guy at the bank and pay him $500 for his commission and then he would give her the check. Fortunately, she did not bite, but who did??? Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2011 17:13:29 -0800 From: hexaph...@sbcglobal.net To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Potential Fraud - Beware (?) The sad thing is there probably are enough stupid Americans to provide these people an incentive. It also highlights the value of this list and the poeple on it. Having such a resource is invaluable. Ron --- On Fri, 1/14/11, bruce78...@comcast.net bruce78...@comcast.net wrote: From: bruce78...@comcast.net bruce78...@comcast.net Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Potential Fraud - Beware (?) To: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org Date: Friday, January 14, 2011, 2:53 PM Yes, in Nigeria you wear a badge of honor depending on how many stupid Americans you are able to swindle out of as much money as possible in these fraudulent schemes. - Original Message - From: Vinyl Visions vinyl.visi...@live.com To: phono-l@ oldcrank .org Sent: Friday, January 14, 2011 3:16:45 PM Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Potential Fraud - Beware (?) Hi Ron, I think that there is some Nigerian prince that has one also... It's free - all you need to do is send him your checking account information, a VISA card number for reference and a certified check for the import duty of $350.00 (much cheaper than the guy in Italy) :) Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2011 10:56:09 -0800 From: hexaphone @ sbcglobal .net To: phono-l@ oldcrank .org Subject: [Phono-L] Potential Fraud - Beware (?) Hi all. On one of the phonograph forums I had a Wanted notice indicating I was looking for a Victrola Orthophonic 8-9 motor. I received a response from a Brian Kidd. His email is brain1@ blumail .org . This one has all the red flags waving. He keeps spelling his own name incorrectly for one. He is located in Italy and wants a money gram or western union payment and his pricing is way out of line i.e. not even reasonable. He wanted 690 euro or more than $900 for a motor of which, of course, he had in stock. Playing along, I asked for pictures. None have been provided (surprise). Anyone else familar with this individual? I would assume he is responding to other people looking for items. Just for a final amusement, I sent him an email stating I would most certainly send a western union for the full amount once I received the product. I am waiting for my reply. Beware. Ron ___ Phono-L mailing list http ://phono-l. oldcrank .org ___ Phono-L mailing list http ://phono-l. oldcrank .org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
Re: [Phono-L] Potential Fraud - Beware (?)
LOL, that's one of the oldest scams in the business. There must have been thousands who bit for having won it big. [Original Message] From: Vinyl Visions vinyl.visi...@live.com To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Date: 1/14/2011 8:58:33 PM Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Potential Fraud - Beware (?) Unfortunately, you are right... I have a client who was recently called on the telephone by a guy who claimed she had won the Publisher's Clearing House big prize. All she had to do was to meet the guy at the bank and pay him $500 for his commission and then he would give her the check. Fortunately, she did not bite, but who did??? Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2011 17:13:29 -0800 From: hexaph...@sbcglobal.net To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Potential Fraud - Beware (?) The sad thing is there probably are enough stupid Americans to provide these people an incentive. It also highlights the value of this list and the poeple on it. Having such a resource is invaluable. Ron --- On Fri, 1/14/11, bruce78...@comcast.net bruce78...@comcast.net wrote: From: bruce78...@comcast.net bruce78...@comcast.net Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Potential Fraud - Beware (?) To: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org Date: Friday, January 14, 2011, 2:53 PM Yes, in Nigeria you wear a badge of honor depending on how many stupid Americans you are able to swindle out of as much money as possible in these fraudulent schemes. - Original Message - From: Vinyl Visions vinyl.visi...@live.com To: phono-l@ oldcrank .org Sent: Friday, January 14, 2011 3:16:45 PM Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Potential Fraud - Beware (?) Hi Ron, I think that there is some Nigerian prince that has one also... It's free - all you need to do is send him your checking account information, a VISA card number for reference and a certified check for the import duty of $350.00 (much cheaper than the guy in Italy) :) Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2011 10:56:09 -0800 From: hexaphone @ sbcglobal .net To: phono-l@ oldcrank .org Subject: [Phono-L] Potential Fraud - Beware (?) Hi all. On one of the phonograph forums I had a Wanted notice indicating I was looking for a Victrola Orthophonic 8-9 motor. I received a response from a Brian Kidd. His email is brain1@ blumail .org . This one has all the red flags waving. He keeps spelling his own name incorrectly for one. He is located in Italy and wants a money gram or western union payment and his pricing is way out of line i.e. not even reasonable. He wanted 690 euro or more than $900 for a motor of which, of course, he had in stock. Playing along, I asked for pictures. None have been provided (surprise). Anyone else familar with this individual? I would assume he is responding to other people looking for items. Just for a final amusement, I sent him an email stating I would most certainly send a western union for the full amount once I received the product. I am waiting for my reply. Beware. Ron ___ Phono-L mailing list http ://phono-l. oldcrank .org ___ Phono-L mailing list http ://phono-l. oldcrank .org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
Re: [Phono-L] Potential Fraud - Beware (?)
Beware of Craigslist also... the old saying If it sounds too good to be true... You might find a bargain, but be careful. On that note, a collector from NC just found a Regina-Phone for $1,200, so you never know. Also, if you list on Craigslist - NEVER meet someone at your house - if you are going to meet, go to McDonald's or a public place. A friend of mine had a number of high end phonographs stolen from his home because of that. Fortunately, he got the NC SBI involved and they recovered all but one, just a day before they were leaving the country. From: steve_nor...@msn.com To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2011 19:05:43 -0500 Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Potential Fraud - Beware (?) Before eBay hid the buyers ID I bid on an Alva to see the final price and get photos. A man wrote and told me he had a number of Alvas in stock and would be happy to sell me one for $1500. Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2011 12:20:25 -0800 From: hexaph...@sbcglobal.net To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Potential Fraud - Beware (?) I suspect the motor doesn't exist, thus I'd never get it. He keeps avoiding my request for a picture to validate whether it is a correct one. It seems there are scammers scouring the various boards on the net including phonograph forums. I prefer to keep to those I am familar with. Ron --- On Fri, 1/14/11, Ron L'Herault lhera...@bu.edu wrote: From: Ron L'Herault lhera...@bu.edu Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Potential Fraud - Beware (?) To: 'Antique Phonograph List' phono-l@oldcrank.org Date: Friday, January 14, 2011, 1:49 PM Did you ever get the motor? Is it different from the usual spring motors for Victors of that period? Ron L -Original Message- From: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org] On Behalf Of hexaph...@sbcglobal.net Sent: Friday, January 14, 2011 1:56 PM To: Antique Phonograph List Subject: [Phono-L] Potential Fraud - Beware (?) Hi all. On one of the phonograph forums I had a Wanted notice indicating I was looking for a Victrola Orthophonic 8-9 motor. I received a response from a Brian Kidd. His email is bra...@blumail.org . This one has all the red flags waving. He keeps spelling his own name incorrectly for one. He is located in Italy and wants a money gram or western union payment and his pricing is way out of line i.e. not even reasonable. He wanted 690 euro or more than $900 for a motor of which, of course, he had in stock. Playing along, I asked for pictures. None have been provided (surprise). Anyone else familar with this individual? I would assume he is responding to other people looking for items. Just for a final amusement, I sent him an email stating I would most certainly send a western union for the full amount once I received the product. I am waiting for my reply. Beware. Ron ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
Re: [Phono-L] Potential Fraud - Beware (?)
Sorry, I meant did you ever find a suitable motor? Have you talked with George Vollema? Ron L -Original Message- From: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org] On Behalf Of hexaph...@sbcglobal.net Sent: Friday, January 14, 2011 3:20 PM To: Antique Phonograph List Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Potential Fraud - Beware (?) I suspect the motor doesn't exist, thus I'd never get it. He keeps avoiding my request for a picture to validate whether it is a correct one. It seems there are scammers scouring the various boards on the net including phonograph forums. I prefer to keep to those I am familar with. Ron --- On Fri, 1/14/11, Ron L'Herault lhera...@bu.edu wrote: From: Ron L'Herault lhera...@bu.edu Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Potential Fraud - Beware (?) To: 'Antique Phonograph List' phono-l@oldcrank.org Date: Friday, January 14, 2011, 1:49 PM Did you ever get the motor? Is it different from the usual spring motors for Victors of that period? Ron L -Original Message- From: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org] On Behalf Of hexaph...@sbcglobal.net Sent: Friday, January 14, 2011 1:56 PM To: Antique Phonograph List Subject: [Phono-L] Potential Fraud - Beware (?) Hi all. On one of the phonograph forums I had a Wanted notice indicating I was looking for a Victrola Orthophonic 8-9 motor. I received a response from a Brian Kidd. His email is bra...@blumail.org . This one has all the red flags waving. He keeps spelling his own name incorrectly for one. He is located in Italy and wants a money gram or western union payment and his pricing is way out of line i.e. not even reasonable. He wanted 690 euro or more than $900 for a motor of which, of course, he had in stock. Playing along, I asked for pictures. None have been provided (surprise). Anyone else familar with this individual? I would assume he is responding to other people looking for items. Just for a final amusement, I sent him an email stating I would most certainly send a western union for the full amount once I received the product. I am waiting for my reply. Beware. Ron ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
Re: [Phono-L] Potential Fraud - Beware (?)
My bad. Haven't identified a correct motor yet, but talking to some including George. He's a great resource and is looking for me. The issue I found with this motor is that although it appears to be a typical Victrola double spring motor, it is not the standard motor made for most console and upright Victrolas from about 1915 onward. This being an orthophinc machine from the late 20's, the motor is similar in appearance, but is different in size and dimension e.g 3 1/2 inches from spindle to crank shaft versus 5 7/8 on a typical motor I have come across. The motor frame aseembly that mounts to the motor board also measures slightly larger than the standard double barrel I have seen at 3 1/2 on the small end and 6 inches on the larger end vs 3 1/2 and 5 5/8 Ron --- On Fri, 1/14/11, Ron L'Herault lhera...@bu.edu wrote: From: Ron L'Herault lhera...@bu.edu Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Potential Fraud - Beware (?) To: 'Antique Phonograph List' phono-l@oldcrank.org Date: Friday, January 14, 2011, 10:24 PM Sorry, I meant did you ever find a suitable motor? Have you talked with George Vollema? Ron L -Original Message- From: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org] On Behalf Of hexaph...@sbcglobal.net Sent: Friday, January 14, 2011 3:20 PM To: Antique Phonograph List Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Potential Fraud - Beware (?) I suspect the motor doesn't exist, thus I'd never get it. He keeps avoiding my request for a picture to validate whether it is a correct one. It seems there are scammers scouring the various boards on the net including phonograph forums. I prefer to keep to those I am familar with. Ron --- On Fri, 1/14/11, Ron L'Herault lhera...@bu.edu wrote: From: Ron L'Herault lhera...@bu.edu Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Potential Fraud - Beware (?) To: 'Antique Phonograph List' phono-l@oldcrank.org Date: Friday, January 14, 2011, 1:49 PM Did you ever get the motor? Is it different from the usual spring motors for Victors of that period? Ron L -Original Message- From: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org] On Behalf Of hexaph...@sbcglobal.net Sent: Friday, January 14, 2011 1:56 PM To: Antique Phonograph List Subject: [Phono-L] Potential Fraud - Beware (?) Hi all. On one of the phonograph forums I had a Wanted notice indicating I was looking for a Victrola Orthophonic 8-9 motor. I received a response from a Brian Kidd. His email is bra...@blumail.org . This one has all the red flags waving. He keeps spelling his own name incorrectly for one. He is located in Italy and wants a money gram or western union payment and his pricing is way out of line i.e. not even reasonable. He wanted 690 euro or more than $900 for a motor of which, of course, he had in stock. Playing along, I asked for pictures. None have been provided (surprise). Anyone else familar with this individual? I would assume he is responding to other people looking for items. Just for a final amusement, I sent him an email stating I would most certainly send a western union for the full amount once I received the product. I am waiting for my reply. Beware. Ron ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
