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.mail.mud.yahoo.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Were they only used on the VTLA?? I just parted out a VV-XIV and saved those casters and related parts. In fact, they are still attached to the legs. Let me know if that would be of any use to you. Dave --- On Mon, 7/4/11, jkship jks...@bresnan.net wrote: From: jkship jks...@bresnan.net Subject: [Phono-L] VTLA wheel casters To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Date: Monday, July 4, 2011, 3:56 PM I am trying to locate a set of four ball bearing type wheel casters for an early VTLA.? The part is a brass cup with a pressed on shoulder. The small end of the cup slides up into the leg of the phonograph. In the bottom of one of the cups is the remnant of a ball bearing ring. The open end of the cup has a distinct crimp that I assume held the wheel. Obviously, the three parts I have are missing the wheel assembly. I checked with George and Ron to no avail... Thanks ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org -- Message: 3 Date: Mon, 4 Jul 2011 17:40:16 -0400 (EDT) From: Richard Mazur phonofo...@aol.com To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Subject: Re: [Phono-L] auction fees Message-ID: 8ce08aa190a57a0-1a6c-50...@webmail-d170.sysops.aol.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Good point Al about ebay. Auction houses could make up to 45% on items ( 30% plus 15%) that make under $1000 There was an auction house near while I live (now defunct) where they would keep 50% commission on items you consign that total under $100. On top of the 50% the auction house also charged a 10% buyers premium. So the auction house makes more more on the item than the consignor does. Even though ebay has increased its fees they are still a viable alernative when selling items especially items that a easy to ship. -Original Message- From: Albert Menashe almena...@gmail.com To: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org Sent: Mon, Jul 4, 2011 3:05 pm Subject: Re: [Phono-L] auction fees the auctions that I attend locally, charge the buyer 15%, the sales ommission are negotiable based on the type merchandise, and the potential mounts realized. On smaller items (-1000) it is usually 30%. But it is otally negotiable. A whole collection valued at 500k may go for as little s 10% We know what the exhorbitant ebay fees are, but at least the buyer oesnt have to pay a commission. On Mon, Jul 4, 2011 at 8:22 AM, Richard Mazur phonofo...@aol.com wrote: Hi Ger: Most auctions take about a 25 - 30% commission rate; however it also depends on how many phonongraphs you are planning to sell at the auction house. If you decide to sell just 1 or 10 the higher the commission rate. If you sell your whole collection like 50 or more then the commisson rate should be lower. I heard with some lucrative estates the rate may be as low as 20% or possibly lower. Rick -Original Message- From: ger55 ge...@comcast.net To: phono-l phono-l@oldcrank.org Cc: ger55 ge...@comcast.net Sent: Sun, Jul 3, 2011 6:52 pm Subject: [Phono-L] auction fees What is considered fair price for an auction house to take for auctioning honographs and related? 've asked this question twice but it never comes up on the daily digest. Thanks Ger __ hono-L mailing list ttp://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org __ hono-L mailing list ttp://phono-l.oldcrank.org -- Message: 4 Date: Mon, 4 Jul 2011 17:56:12 -0400 From: b...@taney.com b...@taney.com To: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org Cc: Phono-l phono-l@oldcrank.org Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Dearborn trip--Edison's last breath Message-ID: 98c71778-357d-42ae-b143-85b9d9cdf...@taney.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii That's the history of innovation, no one EVER invents something in a vacuum, it is all based on someone else's work. Altair and many others tried to come up with computers that were functional personal computers, the Apple ][ was the first practical home computer system, thus Altair is forgotten and Apple is the largest technology company in the world. Same as the OTTO-cycle engine, many other engines were attempted but It was the first practical gas engine and thus Nikolas Otto gets the credit because his system worked. Bill -- Bill Taney Sent From My iPad On Jul 4, 2011, at 2:17 PM, Steven Medved steve_nor...@msn.com wrote: However, his filament had low resistance, thus needing heavy copper wires to supply it. Jim, You are an electrical engineer, how much copper would have been necessary to provide a working low resistance lighting system for all of England? My understanding is that to employ a low resistance series method of electrical distribution
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Maybe you ought to contact Stanton's Auctions and talk to them about a consignment. They have their fall phonograph auction coming up in Nov. They do pickup. Steve knows his stuff and is very honest and reliable. Thank you, George Vollema Great Lakes Antique Phonograph Newaygo MI 49337-8556 www.victroladoctor.com - Original Message - From: ge...@comcast.net To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Cc: ge...@comcast.net Sent: Monday, July 18, 2011 1:48 PM Subject: [Phono-L] auction fees Thanks to all who gave info about auction fees. I asked for their take to be 20% and to put a reserve on the Hexaphone and Zonophone (worth thousands each). THe auctioneer, WOODBURY Auctions then declined...tells ya somethin! I realized later, that a ringer could come in and buy my multi-thousand machines for a few hundred and make off like a bandit if I didn't have a reserve! At first they asked for 35% + shipping costs, then went down to 25% with no charge for shipping. BUT, the mention of reserve suddenly turned them off. Just something to think about...RESERVES are very very important. They may be a put-off to some, but to the seller are critical and I'm very grateful for the replies I got here. Thanks folks, many thanks!!! Ger If anyone hears of an auction or buyer willing to take on my collection fairly, please let me know...still would like to clear it out (northwest CT)...for real this time. ;) Besides the Hex and Zono, there are 4 Edisons, a Vic, a Herbert (reproducer area incorrectly fixed), over a dozen horns including one extra large round brass, a bunch of parts, and over 500 records, about half of which look like decent blue Amberols (a couple of other odd ones too some good wax). Everything is catalogued, including a few dozen fat flat records and a Diamond Disc head with diamond. I've had offers for the 2 main machines, but don't want to be cherry-picked. :) PS: For any one who finds some of the discussion here unrelated to their immediate situation, I suggest that rather than drop out totally, get put on daily digest...it works well for me, and I actually enjoy it. Thanks for that too. ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
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: Monday, July 4, 2011, 3:56 PM I am trying to locate a set of four ball bearing type wheel casters for an early VTLA.? The part is a brass cup with a pressed on shoulder. The small end of the cup slides up into the leg of the phonograph. In the bottom of one of the cups is the remnant of a ball bearing ring. The open end of the cup has a distinct crimp that I assume held the wheel. Obviously, the three parts I have are missing the wheel assembly. I checked with George and Ron to no avail... Thanks ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org -- Message: 3 Date: Mon, 4 Jul 2011 17:40:16 -0400 (EDT) From: Richard Mazur phonofo...@aol.com To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Subject: Re: [Phono-L] auction fees Message-ID: 8ce08aa190a57a0-1a6c-50...@webmail-d170.sysops.aol.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Good point Al about ebay. Auction houses could make up to 45% on items ( 30% plus 15%) that make under $1000 There was an auction house near while I live (now defunct) where they would keep 50% commission on items you consign that total under $100. On top of the 50% the auction house also charged a 10% buyers premium. So the auction house makes more more on the item than the consignor does. Even though ebay has increased its fees they are still a viable alernative when selling items especially items that a easy to ship. -Original Message- From: Albert Menashe almena...@gmail.com To: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org Sent: Mon, Jul 4, 2011 3:05 pm Subject: Re: [Phono-L] auction fees the auctions that I attend locally, charge the buyer 15%, the sales ommission are negotiable based on the type merchandise, and the potential mounts realized. On smaller items (-1000) it is usually 30%. But it is otally negotiable. A whole collection valued at 500k may go for as little s 10% We know what the exhorbitant ebay fees are, but at least the buyer oesnt have to pay a commission. On Mon, Jul 4, 2011 at 8:22 AM, Richard Mazur phonofo...@aol.com wrote: Hi Ger: Most auctions take about a 25 - 30% commission rate; however it also depends on how many phonongraphs you are planning to sell at the auction house. If you decide to sell just 1 or 10 the higher the commission rate. If you sell your whole collection like 50 or more then the commisson rate should be lower. I heard with some lucrative estates the rate may be as low as 20% or possibly lower. Rick -Original Message- From: ger55 ge...@comcast.net To: phono-l phono-l@oldcrank.org Cc: ger55 ge...@comcast.net Sent: Sun, Jul 3, 2011 6:52 pm Subject: [Phono-L] auction fees What is considered fair price for an auction house to take for auctioning honographs and related? 've asked this question twice but it never comes up on the daily digest. Thanks Ger __ hono-L mailing list ttp://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org __ hono-L mailing list ttp://phono-l.oldcrank.org -- Message: 4 Date: Mon, 4 Jul 2011 17:56:12 -0400 From: b...@taney.com b...@taney.com To: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org Cc: Phono-l phono-l@oldcrank.org Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Dearborn trip--Edison's last breath Message-ID: 98c71778-357d-42ae-b143-85b9d9cdf...@taney.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii That's the history of innovation, no one EVER invents something in a vacuum, it is all based on someone else's work. Altair and many others tried to come up with computers that were functional personal computers, the Apple ][ was the first practical home computer system, thus Altair is forgotten and Apple is the largest technology company in the world. Same as the OTTO-cycle engine, many other engines were attempted but It was the first practical gas engine and thus Nikolas Otto gets the credit because his system worked. Bill -- Bill Taney Sent From My iPad On Jul 4, 2011, at 2:17 PM, Steven Medved steve_nor...@msn.com wrote: However, his filament had low resistance, thus needing heavy copper wires to supply it. Jim, You are an electrical engineer, how much copper would have been necessary to provide a working low resistance lighting system for all of England? My understanding is that to employ a low resistance series method of electrical distribution would have used a tremendous amount of copper therefore the Swan system could not have been used. If a system cannot be used even if it works in a laboratory what good is it except for a curiosity? Steve Date: Sun, 3 Jul 2011 21:29:26 -0400 From: bi...@ftldesign.com To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Dearborn trip--Edison's last breath On 7/3/2011 8:38 PM, Jim Nichol wrote: I strongly
Re: [Phono-L] auction fees
ball bearing type wheel casters for an arly VTLA.? The part is a brass cup with a pressed on shoulder. The small end f the cup slides up into the leg of the phonograph. In the bottom of one of the ups is the remnant of a ball bearing ring. The open end of the cup has a istinct crimp that I assume held the wheel. Obviously, the three parts I have re missing the wheel assembly. I checked with George and Ron to no avail... hanks __ hono-L mailing list ttp://phono-l.oldcrank.org - Message: 3 ate: Mon, 4 Jul 2011 17:40:16 -0400 (EDT) rom: Richard Mazur phonofo...@aol.com o: phono-l@oldcrank.org ubject: Re: [Phono-L] auction fees essage-ID: 8ce08aa190a57a0-1a6c-50...@webmail-d170.sysops.aol.com ontent-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Good point Al about ebay. Auction houses could make up to 45% on items ( 30% lus 15%) that make under $1000 There was an auction house near while I live now defunct) where they would keep 50% commission on items you consign that otal under $100. On top of the 50% the auction house also charged a 10% buyers remium. So the auction house makes more more on the item than the consignor oes. Even though ebay has increased its fees they are still a viable alernative when selling items especially items that a easy to ship. Original Message- rom: Albert Menashe almena...@gmail.com o: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org ent: Mon, Jul 4, 2011 3:05 pm ubject: Re: [Phono-L] auction fees he auctions that I attend locally, charge the buyer 15%, the sales mmission are negotiable based on the type merchandise, and the potential ounts realized. On smaller items (-1000) it is usually 30%. But it is tally negotiable. A whole collection valued at 500k may go for as little 10% We know what the exhorbitant ebay fees are, but at least the buyer esnt have to pay a commission. n Mon, Jul 4, 2011 at 8:22 AM, Richard Mazur phonofo...@aol.com wrote: Hi Ger: Most auctions take about a 25 - 30% commission rate; however it also depends on how many phonongraphs you are planning to sell at the auction house. If you decide to sell just 1 or 10 the higher the commission rate. If you sell your whole collection like 50 or more then the commisson rate should be lower. I heard with some lucrative estates the rate may be as low as 20% or possibly lower. Rick -Original Message- From: ger55 ge...@comcast.net To: phono-l phono-l@oldcrank.org Cc: ger55 ge...@comcast.net Sent: Sun, Jul 3, 2011 6:52 pm Subject: [Phono-L] auction fees What is considered fair price for an auction house to take for auctioning honographs and related? 've asked this question twice but it never comes up on the daily digest. Thanks Ger __ hono-L mailing list ttp://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org __ ono-L mailing list tp://phono-l.oldcrank.org -- Message: 4 ate: Mon, 4 Jul 2011 17:56:12 -0400 rom: b...@taney.com b...@taney.com o: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org c: Phono-l phono-l@oldcrank.org ubject: Re: [Phono-L] Dearborn trip--Edison's last breath essage-ID: 98c71778-357d-42ae-b143-85b9d9cdf...@taney.com ontent-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii That's the history of innovation, no one EVER invents something in a vacuum, it s all based on someone else's work. Altair and many others tried to come up ith computers that were functional personal computers, the Apple ][ was the irst practical home computer system, thus Altair is forgotten and Apple is the argest technology company in the world. Same as the OTTO-cycle engine, many ther engines were attempted but It was the first practical gas engine and thus ikolas Otto gets the credit because his system worked. ill -- ill Taney ent From My iPad n Jul 4, 2011, at 2:17 PM, Steven Medved steve_nor...@msn.com wrote: However, his filament had low resistance, thus needing heavy copper wires to upply it. Jim, You are an electrical engineer, how much copper would have been ecessary to provide a working low resistance lighting system for all of ngland? My understanding is that to employ a low resistance series method of lectrical distribution would have used a tremendous amount of copper therefore he Swan system could not have been used. If a system cannot be used even if it orks in a laboratory what good is it except for a curiosity? Steve Date: Sun, 3 Jul 2011 21:29:26 -0400 From: bi...@ftldesign.com To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Dearborn trip--Edison's last breath On 7/3/2011 8:38 PM, Jim Nichol wrote: I strongly disagree. Yes, Google will tell you that many others worked on he light bulb. But those stories all conclude that none of them were
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Hi Ger: Most auctions take about a 25 - 30% commission rate; however it also depends on how many phonongraphs you are planning to sell at the auction house. If you decide to sell just 1 or 10 the higher the commission rate. If you sell your whole collection like 50 or more then the commisson rate should be lower. I heard with some lucrative estates the rate may be as low as 20% or possibly lower. Rick -Original Message- From: ger55 ge...@comcast.net To: phono-l phono-l@oldcrank.org Cc: ger55 ge...@comcast.net Sent: Sun, Jul 3, 2011 6:52 pm Subject: [Phono-L] auction fees What is considered fair price for an auction house to take for auctioning honographs and related? 've asked this question twice but it never comes up on the daily digest. Thanks Ger __ hono-L mailing list ttp://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
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the auctions that I attend locally, charge the buyer 15%, the sales commission are negotiable based on the type merchandise, and the potential amounts realized. On smaller items (-1000) it is usually 30%. But it is totally negotiable. A whole collection valued at 500k may go for as little as 10% We know what the exhorbitant ebay fees are, but at least the buyer doesnt have to pay a commission. On Mon, Jul 4, 2011 at 8:22 AM, Richard Mazur phonofo...@aol.com wrote: Hi Ger: Most auctions take about a 25 - 30% commission rate; however it also depends on how many phonongraphs you are planning to sell at the auction house. If you decide to sell just 1 or 10 the higher the commission rate. If you sell your whole collection like 50 or more then the commisson rate should be lower. I heard with some lucrative estates the rate may be as low as 20% or possibly lower. Rick -Original Message- From: ger55 ge...@comcast.net To: phono-l phono-l@oldcrank.org Cc: ger55 ge...@comcast.net Sent: Sun, Jul 3, 2011 6:52 pm Subject: [Phono-L] auction fees What is considered fair price for an auction house to take for auctioning honographs and related? 've asked this question twice but it never comes up on the daily digest. Thanks Ger __ hono-L mailing list ttp://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
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Good point Al about ebay. Auction houses could make up to 45% on items ( 30% plus 15%) that make under $1000 There was an auction house near while I live (now defunct) where they would keep 50% commission on items you consign that total under $100. On top of the 50% the auction house also charged a 10% buyers premium. So the auction house makes more more on the item than the consignor does. Even though ebay has increased its fees they are still a viable alernative when selling items especially items that a easy to ship. -Original Message- From: Albert Menashe almena...@gmail.com To: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org Sent: Mon, Jul 4, 2011 3:05 pm Subject: Re: [Phono-L] auction fees the auctions that I attend locally, charge the buyer 15%, the sales ommission are negotiable based on the type merchandise, and the potential mounts realized. On smaller items (-1000) it is usually 30%. But it is otally negotiable. A whole collection valued at 500k may go for as little s 10% We know what the exhorbitant ebay fees are, but at least the buyer oesnt have to pay a commission. On Mon, Jul 4, 2011 at 8:22 AM, Richard Mazur phonofo...@aol.com wrote: Hi Ger: Most auctions take about a 25 - 30% commission rate; however it also depends on how many phonongraphs you are planning to sell at the auction house. If you decide to sell just 1 or 10 the higher the commission rate. If you sell your whole collection like 50 or more then the commisson rate should be lower. I heard with some lucrative estates the rate may be as low as 20% or possibly lower. Rick -Original Message- From: ger55 ge...@comcast.net To: phono-l phono-l@oldcrank.org Cc: ger55 ge...@comcast.net Sent: Sun, Jul 3, 2011 6:52 pm Subject: [Phono-L] auction fees What is considered fair price for an auction house to take for auctioning honographs and related? 've asked this question twice but it never comes up on the daily digest. Thanks Ger __ hono-L mailing list ttp://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org __ hono-L mailing list ttp://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
