#48434 [Bgs]: memory function
ID: 48434 User updated by: busia at tiscali dot it Reported By: busia at tiscali dot it Status: Bogus Bug Type:Feature/Change Request PHP Version: 5.3.0RC2 New Comment: Look this code: - That show a - 201640 b - 774800 c - 685360 d - 685360 If it is as you said the output near "d" should be different from the output near "c" but they are identical. I want to know how many internal mamory is used from the "$foo" variable. I know the the system memory is the same because php don't make always garbage collection but it collect on the request end bue i want to be able to know how much memory is interested by section of code. Using your code seems that $foo is registered on the void. Thanks Previous Comments: [2009-05-30 13:29:54] scott...@php.net What aren't you understanding? memory_get_usage(true) = memory allocated to process from system memory_get_usage() = memory actually in use for PHP Therefore memory_get_usage(true) - memory_get_usage() That's the memory that has been allocated from the system but isn't used for variables yet. [2009-05-30 13:00:52] busia at tiscali dot it I unsderstand what you say but my request is different: when I posted bug #48368, j...@php.net answered me: unset != free. The memory is freed once the process shuts down. Until that, it's available inside the process. This is not a leak. I need a function that tell me the amount of this memory "available inside the process" or even better the difference between memory_get_usage() and this memory "available inside the process". I don't think this is bogus, i think this must be an "open" feature request. Thanks [2009-05-30 12:23:24] lbarn...@php.net scott you are right, however it seems the behavior differs a bit when unset()ing small-enough variables. memory_get_usage(false) does not takes into account the "small blocks cache" used by the allocator (not the same as the malloc()ed blocks cache). This causes the reported memory usage to not always decrease when unset()ing a variable: int(91448) <-- first call int(91696) <-- before unset int(91696) <-- after unset (== before unset) This patch may fix this: Index: Zend/zend_alloc.c === RCS file: /repository/ZendEngine2/zend_alloc.c,v retrieving revision 1.144.2.3.2.43.2.23 diff -u -p -r1.144.2.3.2.43.2.23 zend_alloc.c --- Zend/zend_alloc.c 1 Apr 2009 16:55:47 - 1.144.2.3.2.43.2.23 +++ Zend/zend_alloc.c 30 May 2009 12:12:48 - @@ -2496,7 +2496,11 @@ ZEND_API size_t zend_memory_usage(int re if (real_usage) { return AG(mm_heap)->real_size; } else { - return AG(mm_heap)->size; + size_t usage = AG(mm_heap)->size; +#if ZEND_MM_CACHE + usage -= AG(mm_heap)->cached; +#endif + return usage; } } [2009-05-30 11:42:31] scott...@php.net memory_get_usage(true) is the memory allocated from the system. memory_get_usage() is the memory currently in use by PHP. http://bugs.php.net/48434 -- Edit this bug report at http://bugs.php.net/?id=48434&edit=1
#48434 [Bgs]: memory function
ID: 48434 Updated by: scott...@php.net Reported By: busia at tiscali dot it Status: Bogus Bug Type:Feature/Change Request PHP Version: 5.3.0RC2 New Comment: What aren't you understanding? memory_get_usage(true) = memory allocated to process from system memory_get_usage() = memory actually in use for PHP Therefore memory_get_usage(true) - memory_get_usage() That's the memory that has been allocated from the system but isn't used for variables yet. Previous Comments: [2009-05-30 13:00:52] busia at tiscali dot it I unsderstand what you say but my request is different: when I posted bug #48368, j...@php.net answered me: unset != free. The memory is freed once the process shuts down. Until that, it's available inside the process. This is not a leak. I need a function that tell me the amount of this memory "available inside the process" or even better the difference between memory_get_usage() and this memory "available inside the process". I don't think this is bogus, i think this must be an "open" feature request. Thanks [2009-05-30 12:23:24] lbarn...@php.net scott you are right, however it seems the behavior differs a bit when unset()ing small-enough variables. memory_get_usage(false) does not takes into account the "small blocks cache" used by the allocator (not the same as the malloc()ed blocks cache). This causes the reported memory usage to not always decrease when unset()ing a variable: int(91448) <-- first call int(91696) <-- before unset int(91696) <-- after unset (== before unset) This patch may fix this: Index: Zend/zend_alloc.c === RCS file: /repository/ZendEngine2/zend_alloc.c,v retrieving revision 1.144.2.3.2.43.2.23 diff -u -p -r1.144.2.3.2.43.2.23 zend_alloc.c --- Zend/zend_alloc.c 1 Apr 2009 16:55:47 - 1.144.2.3.2.43.2.23 +++ Zend/zend_alloc.c 30 May 2009 12:12:48 - @@ -2496,7 +2496,11 @@ ZEND_API size_t zend_memory_usage(int re if (real_usage) { return AG(mm_heap)->real_size; } else { - return AG(mm_heap)->size; + size_t usage = AG(mm_heap)->size; +#if ZEND_MM_CACHE + usage -= AG(mm_heap)->cached; +#endif + return usage; } } [2009-05-30 11:42:31] scott...@php.net memory_get_usage(true) is the memory allocated from the system. memory_get_usage() is the memory currently in use by PHP. http://www.php.net/support.php as this bug system is not the appropriate forum for asking support questions. Due to the volume of reports we can not explain in detail here why your report is not a bug. The support channels will be able to provide an explanation for you. Thank you for your interest in PHP. It's already there. memory_get_usage() and memory_get_usage(true) The remainder of the comments for this report are too long. To view the rest of the comments, please view the bug report online at http://bugs.php.net/48434 -- Edit this bug report at http://bugs.php.net/?id=48434&edit=1
#48434 [Bgs]: memory function
ID: 48434 User updated by: busia at tiscali dot it Reported By: busia at tiscali dot it Status: Bogus Bug Type:Feature/Change Request PHP Version: 5.3.0RC2 New Comment: I unsderstand what you say but my request is different: when I posted bug #48368, j...@php.net answered me: unset != free. The memory is freed once the process shuts down. Until that, it's available inside the process. This is not a leak. I need a function that tell me the amount of this memory "available inside the process" or even better the difference between memory_get_usage() and this memory "available inside the process". I don't think this is bogus, i think this must be an "open" feature request. Thanks Previous Comments: [2009-05-30 12:23:24] lbarn...@php.net scott you are right, however it seems the behavior differs a bit when unset()ing small-enough variables. memory_get_usage(false) does not takes into account the "small blocks cache" used by the allocator (not the same as the malloc()ed blocks cache). This causes the reported memory usage to not always decrease when unset()ing a variable: int(91448) <-- first call int(91696) <-- before unset int(91696) <-- after unset (== before unset) This patch may fix this: Index: Zend/zend_alloc.c === RCS file: /repository/ZendEngine2/zend_alloc.c,v retrieving revision 1.144.2.3.2.43.2.23 diff -u -p -r1.144.2.3.2.43.2.23 zend_alloc.c --- Zend/zend_alloc.c 1 Apr 2009 16:55:47 - 1.144.2.3.2.43.2.23 +++ Zend/zend_alloc.c 30 May 2009 12:12:48 - @@ -2496,7 +2496,11 @@ ZEND_API size_t zend_memory_usage(int re if (real_usage) { return AG(mm_heap)->real_size; } else { - return AG(mm_heap)->size; + size_t usage = AG(mm_heap)->size; +#if ZEND_MM_CACHE + usage -= AG(mm_heap)->cached; +#endif + return usage; } } [2009-05-30 11:42:31] scott...@php.net memory_get_usage(true) is the memory allocated from the system. memory_get_usage() is the memory currently in use by PHP. http://www.php.net/support.php as this bug system is not the appropriate forum for asking support questions. Due to the volume of reports we can not explain in detail here why your report is not a bug. The support channels will be able to provide an explanation for you. Thank you for your interest in PHP. It's already there. memory_get_usage() and memory_get_usage(true) [2009-05-30 09:33:08] busia at tiscali dot it Description: You said me (#48368) that unset != free. The memory can remain occupied also after I unset an array, that memory is reused when I set a new variable and, for this reason, it's not a leak. Ok, now it's clear but a problem remains: how can I optimize my code when I cannot see the php internal memory use? I need a function like: memory_get_usage() - memory_allocated_but_usable_for_newly_created_variables(); Setting a variable and seeing that memory use don't change make scripts impossible to optimize. Thanks -- Edit this bug report at http://bugs.php.net/?id=48434&edit=1
#48434 [Bgs]: memory function
ID: 48434 Updated by: lbarn...@php.net Reported By: busia at tiscali dot it Status: Bogus Bug Type:Feature/Change Request PHP Version: 5.3.0RC2 New Comment: scott you are right, however it seems the behavior differs a bit when unset()ing small-enough variables. memory_get_usage(false) does not takes into account the "small blocks cache" used by the allocator (not the same as the malloc()ed blocks cache). This causes the reported memory usage to not always decrease when unset()ing a variable: int(91448) <-- first call int(91696) <-- before unset int(91696) <-- after unset (== before unset) This patch may fix this: Index: Zend/zend_alloc.c === RCS file: /repository/ZendEngine2/zend_alloc.c,v retrieving revision 1.144.2.3.2.43.2.23 diff -u -p -r1.144.2.3.2.43.2.23 zend_alloc.c --- Zend/zend_alloc.c 1 Apr 2009 16:55:47 - 1.144.2.3.2.43.2.23 +++ Zend/zend_alloc.c 30 May 2009 12:12:48 - @@ -2496,7 +2496,11 @@ ZEND_API size_t zend_memory_usage(int re if (real_usage) { return AG(mm_heap)->real_size; } else { - return AG(mm_heap)->size; + size_t usage = AG(mm_heap)->size; +#if ZEND_MM_CACHE + usage -= AG(mm_heap)->cached; +#endif + return usage; } } Previous Comments: [2009-05-30 11:42:31] scott...@php.net memory_get_usage(true) is the memory allocated from the system. memory_get_usage() is the memory currently in use by PHP. http://www.php.net/support.php as this bug system is not the appropriate forum for asking support questions. Due to the volume of reports we can not explain in detail here why your report is not a bug. The support channels will be able to provide an explanation for you. Thank you for your interest in PHP. It's already there. memory_get_usage() and memory_get_usage(true) [2009-05-30 09:33:08] busia at tiscali dot it Description: You said me (#48368) that unset != free. The memory can remain occupied also after I unset an array, that memory is reused when I set a new variable and, for this reason, it's not a leak. Ok, now it's clear but a problem remains: how can I optimize my code when I cannot see the php internal memory use? I need a function like: memory_get_usage() - memory_allocated_but_usable_for_newly_created_variables(); Setting a variable and seeing that memory use don't change make scripts impossible to optimize. Thanks -- Edit this bug report at http://bugs.php.net/?id=48434&edit=1
#48434 [Bgs]: memory function
ID: 48434 Updated by: scott...@php.net Reported By: busia at tiscali dot it Status: Bogus Bug Type:Feature/Change Request PHP Version: 5.3.0RC2 New Comment: memory_get_usage(true) is the memory allocated from the system. memory_get_usage() is the memory currently in use by PHP. http://www.php.net/support.php as this bug system is not the appropriate forum for asking support questions. Due to the volume of reports we can not explain in detail here why your report is not a bug. The support channels will be able to provide an explanation for you. Thank you for your interest in PHP. It's already there. memory_get_usage() and memory_get_usage(true) [2009-05-30 09:33:08] busia at tiscali dot it Description: You said me (#48368) that unset != free. The memory can remain occupied also after I unset an array, that memory is reused when I set a new variable and, for this reason, it's not a leak. Ok, now it's clear but a problem remains: how can I optimize my code when I cannot see the php internal memory use? I need a function like: memory_get_usage() - memory_allocated_but_usable_for_newly_created_variables(); Setting a variable and seeing that memory use don't change make scripts impossible to optimize. Thanks -- Edit this bug report at http://bugs.php.net/?id=48434&edit=1
#48434 [Bgs]: memory function
ID: 48434 User updated by: busia at tiscali dot it Reported By: busia at tiscali dot it Status: Bogus Bug Type:Feature/Change Request PHP Version: 5.3.0RC2 New Comment: I know memory_get_usage() and memory_get_usage(true). But they don't resolve the problem because the memory is not freed always when I unset a variable than memory_get_usage can return the same before and after creating a variable. See #48368. You said me that internal php memory is different from system allocated memory, and I want to access internal php memory. Memory_get_usage (with or without the first parameter) allow only to access to syem allocated memory. Please reply Previous Comments: [2009-05-30 10:01:50] scott...@php.net Sorry, but your problem does not imply a bug in PHP itself. For a list of more appropriate places to ask for help using PHP, please visit http://www.php.net/support.php as this bug system is not the appropriate forum for asking support questions. Due to the volume of reports we can not explain in detail here why your report is not a bug. The support channels will be able to provide an explanation for you. Thank you for your interest in PHP. It's already there. memory_get_usage() and memory_get_usage(true) [2009-05-30 09:33:08] busia at tiscali dot it Description: You said me (#48368) that unset != free. The memory can remain occupied also after I unset an array, that memory is reused when I set a new variable and, for this reason, it's not a leak. Ok, now it's clear but a problem remains: how can I optimize my code when I cannot see the php internal memory use? I need a function like: memory_get_usage() - memory_allocated_but_usable_for_newly_created_variables(); Setting a variable and seeing that memory use don't change make scripts impossible to optimize. Thanks -- Edit this bug report at http://bugs.php.net/?id=48434&edit=1