Re: [PHP-DEV] [BUNDLING] PHP cURL

2002-01-30 Thread Edin Kadribasic

 I'd like to start bundling the cURL distribution with PHP, for both
 the curl extension (for starters), as well as replacing alot of the
 current ftp  http code to use the cURL library.

+1 Excellent idea. I'd add another reason: matching your cURL library and
your php version can be tricky. All of that goes away when the library is
bundled.

Edin



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Re: [PHP-DEV] [BUNDLING] PHP cURL

2002-01-30 Thread Hartmut Holzgraefe

YES! FINALLY!

(although i'd like to see some alternative to source bundeling,
  maybe something like the BSD port collection mechanism
  maybe we could use the current HTTP and FTP implementations
  as a fallback together with the new CLI to fetch from the
  net in a portable way? ... but this is a very different story...)

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Re: [PHP-DEV] [BUNDLING] PHP cURL

2002-01-30 Thread Markus Fischer

On Wed, Jan 30, 2002 at 12:48:59PM +0100, Hartmut Holzgraefe wrote : 
 YES! FINALLY!
 
 (although i'd like to see some alternative to source bundeling,
  maybe something like the BSD port collection mechanism
  maybe we could use the current HTTP and FTP implementations
  as a fallback together with the new CLI to fetch from the
  net in a portable way? ... but this is a very different story...)

IMHO this goes hand in hand with PEAR/PECL. As soon as the
download mechanism works it would certainly mean that
extensions to PHP containing other parties source code have
to be automatically bundled and downloaded with the extension
sources (if not, it wouldn't make much sense). If I'm not
wrong we have no PEAR/PECL extension yet including 3rd party
source code.

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[PHP-DEV] [BUNDLING] PHP cURL

2002-01-29 Thread Sterling Hughes

Hey,

I'd like to start bundling the cURL distribution with PHP, for both
the curl extension (for starters), as well as replacing alot of the
current ftp  http code to use the cURL library.

I want to do this for a few reasons, the most poignant are:

1) HTTP is a tricky mistress.  Incompatibilities, protocol changes,
request features, etc.  cURL is a library with the best support for
http and related protocols of all the different libraries out there.

2) cURL supports a multitude of different protocols which could be
added to PHP transparently, including HTTPS, HTTP Proxy, DICT, LDAP, 
Telnet, etc.

3) cURL is fast, not just marginally faster, but quite a bit faster.
Most benchmarks done confirm that its at least 20-30% faster than
PHP's native code.  Of course nothing official, but I'd be willing
to bet quite a bit that an official benchmark would yield the same
results.

4) I don't need to stress how important it is for PHP to have superb
support for interacting with other web programs, even more now with
the advent of web services (even though I'm not a huge fan of this
concept).

5) cURL is quite popular, and is becoming even more popular lately,
that means we get to take advantage of the work of the talented cURL
developers in PHP, people who are constantly improving and tuning
cURL to support new features, and new ideas.

well, yeah, that's pretty much it, thoughts?

-Sterling

PS: cURL is license compatible, its dual-licensed under the MPL or
the MIT public license.

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RE: [PHP-DEV] [BUNDLING] PHP cURL

2002-01-29 Thread James Cox

i'm +1 on this. i'd like to see cURL get bundled as standard with php
distro's.

james

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 Hey,

 I'd like to start bundling the cURL distribution with PHP, for both
 the curl extension (for starters), as well as replacing alot of the
 current ftp  http code to use the cURL library.

 I want to do this for a few reasons, the most poignant are:

 1) HTTP is a tricky mistress.  Incompatibilities, protocol changes,
 request features, etc.  cURL is a library with the best support for
 http and related protocols of all the different libraries out there.

 2) cURL supports a multitude of different protocols which could be
 added to PHP transparently, including HTTPS, HTTP Proxy, DICT, LDAP,
 Telnet, etc.

 3) cURL is fast, not just marginally faster, but quite a bit faster.
 Most benchmarks done confirm that its at least 20-30% faster than
 PHP's native code.  Of course nothing official, but I'd be willing
 to bet quite a bit that an official benchmark would yield the same
 results.

 4) I don't need to stress how important it is for PHP to have superb
 support for interacting with other web programs, even more now with
 the advent of web services (even though I'm not a huge fan of this
 concept).

 5) cURL is quite popular, and is becoming even more popular lately,
 that means we get to take advantage of the work of the talented cURL
 developers in PHP, people who are constantly improving and tuning
 cURL to support new features, and new ideas.

 well, yeah, that's pretty much it, thoughts?

 -Sterling

 PS: cURL is license compatible, its dual-licensed under the MPL or
 the MIT public license.

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Re: [PHP-DEV] [BUNDLING] PHP cURL

2002-01-29 Thread Sebastian Bergmann

Sterling Hughes wrote:
 well, yeah, that's pretty much it, thoughts?

  Sounds reasonable and appeals to me, +1.

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