Re: [PHP-DEV] Configuration.... XML.... Life

2002-05-16 Thread Marcus Börger

Generally using xml instead of ini format would allow many things
-different ini sections for different sapis
-different ini sections for different users
-maybe inclusion of subscripts (db admin may change only database parts..)
-maybe different ini sections for different webservers if we can 
distinguish before loading ini
-and other handling other differences we may have now or will have to 
handle in the future.

but first of all we should have a dtd or xschema for this
and then xml parsing is slower than ini parsing
and the components needed to parse the xml settings file have to be all 
core components (without usage of external libraries)
and that would violate thinks like --disable-xml

besides that i would agree but my guesses are that no one will be found 
doing all
the code changes

(i skipped reply to general list because i only reply to means of development)

marcus

At 21:31 16.05.2002, Michael Dransfield wrote:
I have started writing an app which helps (mainly win32, new) users to 
generate config files correctly to prevent glaring security holes on 
production servers.

I started by using parse_config_file(), but this ends up causing problems 
because it strips comments.  This means that some variables which are 
commented are lost from the program.  There are also potential problems 
because some of the config file has [sections] and some of it 
doesnt.  Some of this is valid in win32 environments and some are 
not.  This can cause problems if users download the win32 default config 
file and then upload it to Linux or BSD, it will fail.

Will uncommenting some of the variables (and then setting them to the 
default) affect the running of php at all?  is there a reason why they are 
commented and not just set with their default / NULL value?

I then began playing with an xml file which stores the comments and 
variables along with other useful information relating to the 
configuration variable. I then added warnings to the XML document so that 
the front-end can read if a setting is potentially insecure (in the 
current environment).  I think the best way to explain it is by looking at 
the attached file, most of it is obvious, i have commented where necessary.

Do you think this format looks OK, I am sure i have missed a lot of 
information which could be of interest, for example storing a default 
value with each variable, which could be different in different 
environments (eg default env=dev value=1/).  Maybe add a severity to 
the warning.

What would you think about the possibility of including the XML ini file 
format in later release of php?  it is easy enough to parse the file when 
the server is started as easilly as it can parse the current ini 
file(?).  It could enable many possibilities because is can store multiple 
environments within it, along with relavent information about the setting 
itself, which would make overall administration much much easier, and 
quicker.  ini files are s Windows 95, dont you think?

I am going to write the front-end as a web application and as a php-gtk 
app (hopefully with the same code).

Does anybody have any comments or suggestions (or would like to 
help)?  (please try to keep them constructive ;)  i have looked for 
similar projects, but cant find any.

Regards
Mike



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[PHP-DEV] Configuration.... XML.... Life

2002-05-16 Thread Michael Dransfield

I have started writing an app which helps (mainly win32, new) users to 
generate config files correctly to prevent glaring security holes on 
production servers.

I started by using parse_config_file(), but this ends up causing problems 
because it strips comments.  This means that some variables which are 
commented are lost from the program.  There are also potential problems 
because some of the config file has [sections] and some of it doesnt.  Some 
of this is valid in win32 environments and some are not.  This can cause 
problems if users download the win32 default config file and then upload it 
to Linux or BSD, it will fail.

Will uncommenting some of the variables (and then setting them to the 
default) affect the running of php at all?  is there a reason why they are 
commented and not just set with their default / NULL value?

I then began playing with an xml file which stores the comments and 
variables along with other useful information relating to the configuration 
variable. I then added warnings to the XML document so that the front-end 
can read if a setting is potentially insecure (in the current 
environment).  I think the best way to explain it is by looking at the 
attached file, most of it is obvious, i have commented where necessary.

Do you think this format looks OK, I am sure i have missed a lot of 
information which could be of interest, for example storing a default value 
with each variable, which could be different in different environments (eg 
default env=dev value=1/).  Maybe add a severity to the warning.

What would you think about the possibility of including the XML ini file 
format in later release of php?  it is easy enough to parse the file when 
the server is started as easilly as it can parse the current ini 
file(?).  It could enable many possibilities because is can store multiple 
environments within it, along with relavent information about the setting 
itself, which would make overall administration much much easier, and 
quicker.  ini files are s Windows 95, dont you think?

I am going to write the front-end as a web application and as a php-gtk app 
(hopefully with the same code).

Does anybody have any comments or suggestions (or would like to 
help)?  (please try to keep them constructive ;)  i have looked for similar 
projects, but cant find any.

Regards
Mike



php_ini.xml
Description: application/xml

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