RE: [PHP-DEV] Redirect on Error (not localisation)
Unless told otherwise, I'm already planning on making a few changes and committing. John -Original Message- From: Ivan Ristic [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2002 2:50 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 'James Aylett'; 'PHP Developers Mailing List' Subject: [PHP-DEV] Redirect on Error (not localisation) Anyway... So what of my actual patch we were discussing at some point? I never got a real answer as to if it would be suitable to commit. I have changed the subject of the message in an effort to separate the discussion on the Redirect on Fatal Error feature (the subject of this email) from the localisation discussion. ... As a reminder, we are discussing a patch that will redirect the user to another page when a fatal or a parse error occurs (parse errors can be caught with lint, fatal can't). The redirection will allow developers to: * Show a decent page to the user (instead of letting them see a blank or incomplete page) * Send a message to themselves that something strange has happened (allowing them to react quickly, instead of having to install log watch software for notification purposes (and many people cannot do that as they do not have control over the servers)) As far as I am aware, there is not a single reason not to have this feature. Some people seem not to like it, but that is fine; with no performance or stability risks, if you don't want to use the feature - you won't be affected. On the other hand, I will be extremely happy to have it under my belt as yet another tool I can use to make my software run better. Please don't tell me that I wouldn't need this feature if I programmed perfectly. Errors happen all the time, no matter what you do trying to prevent them. Bye, Ivan -- PHP Development Mailing List http://www.php.net/ To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php -- PHP Development Mailing List http://www.php.net/ To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
RE: [PHP-DEV] Redirect on Error (not localisation)
On Tue, 26 Nov 2002, John Coggeshall wrote: Unless told otherwise, I'm already planning on making a few changes and committing. I think you should not do that. There was no consensus reached if we actually want this. Derick -- - Derick Rethans http://derickrethans.nl/ PHP Magazine - PHP Magazine for Professionals http://php-mag.net/ - -- PHP Development Mailing List http://www.php.net/ To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP-DEV] Redirect on Error (not localisation)
Derick Rethans wrote: I think you should not do that. There was no consensus reached if we actually want this. Right, -1 from me, too. -- Sebastian Bergmann http://sebastian-bergmann.de/ http://phpOpenTracker.de/ Did I help you? Consider a gift: http://wishlist.sebastian-bergmann.de/ -- PHP Development Mailing List http://www.php.net/ To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP-DEV] Redirect on Error (not localisation)
John Coggeshall wrote: Unless told otherwise, I'm already planning on making a few changes and committing. John Please don't. As far as i can see, no decision was made. for the record, i'm against this.. -Original Message- From: Ivan Ristic [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2002 2:50 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 'James Aylett'; 'PHP Developers Mailing List' Subject: [PHP-DEV] Redirect on Error (not localisation) Anyway... So what of my actual patch we were discussing at some point? I never got a real answer as to if it would be suitable to commit. I have changed the subject of the message in an effort to separate the discussion on the Redirect on Fatal Error feature (the subject of this email) from the localisation discussion. ... As a reminder, we are discussing a patch that will redirect the user to another page when a fatal or a parse error occurs (parse errors can be caught with lint, fatal can't). The redirection will allow developers to: * Show a decent page to the user (instead of letting them see a blank or incomplete page) * Send a message to themselves that something strange has happened (allowing them to react quickly, instead of having to install log watch software for notification purposes (and many people cannot do that as they do not have control over the servers)) As far as I am aware, there is not a single reason not to have this feature. Some people seem not to like it, but that is fine; with no performance or stability risks, if you don't want to use the feature - you won't be affected. On the other hand, I will be extremely happy to have it under my belt as yet another tool I can use to make my software run better. Please don't tell me that I wouldn't need this feature if I programmed perfectly. Errors happen all the time, no matter what you do trying to prevent them. Bye, Ivan -- PHP Development Mailing List http://www.php.net/ To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php -- Tal Peer [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- PHP Development Mailing List http://www.php.net/ To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP-DEV] Redirect on Error (not localisation)
On November 26, 2002 03:09 pm, John Coggeshall wrote: Unless told otherwise, I'm already planning on making a few changes and committing. I for one, am -1 on the idea as I am sure some other developers are too. Let's first clearly tally who is for and who is against the idea before adding it to the CVS. Ilia John -Original Message- From: Ivan Ristic [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2002 2:50 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 'James Aylett'; 'PHP Developers Mailing List' Subject: [PHP-DEV] Redirect on Error (not localisation) Anyway... So what of my actual patch we were discussing at some point? I never got a real answer as to if it would be suitable to commit. I have changed the subject of the message in an effort to separate the discussion on the Redirect on Fatal Error feature (the subject of this email) from the localisation discussion. ... As a reminder, we are discussing a patch that will redirect the user to another page when a fatal or a parse error occurs (parse errors can be caught with lint, fatal can't). The redirection will allow developers to: * Show a decent page to the user (instead of letting them see a blank or incomplete page) * Send a message to themselves that something strange has happened (allowing them to react quickly, instead of having to install log watch software for notification purposes (and many people cannot do that as they do not have control over the servers)) As far as I am aware, there is not a single reason not to have this feature. Some people seem not to like it, but that is fine; with no performance or stability risks, if you don't want to use the feature - you won't be affected. On the other hand, I will be extremely happy to have it under my belt as yet another tool I can use to make my software run better. Please don't tell me that I wouldn't need this feature if I programmed perfectly. Errors happen all the time, no matter what you do trying to prevent them. Bye, Ivan -- PHP Development Mailing List http://www.php.net/ To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php -- PHP Development Mailing List http://www.php.net/ To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP-DEV] Redirect on Error (not localisation)
Unless told otherwise, I'm already planning on making a few changes and committing. john, I've told you otherwise, so has derick and about half the developers on this list (not talking about the localization portion of the thread here). Quick answer: don't. If you wanna come with some patches, post them on your website, i and other people will be happy to look @ them and discuss them, but *do not* commit them without a reasonable concensus. -Sterling John -Original Message- From: Ivan Ristic [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2002 2:50 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 'James Aylett'; 'PHP Developers Mailing List' Subject: [PHP-DEV] Redirect on Error (not localisation) Anyway... So what of my actual patch we were discussing at some point? I never got a real answer as to if it would be suitable to commit. I have changed the subject of the message in an effort to separate the discussion on the Redirect on Fatal Error feature (the subject of this email) from the localisation discussion. ... As a reminder, we are discussing a patch that will redirect the user to another page when a fatal or a parse error occurs (parse errors can be caught with lint, fatal can't). The redirection will allow developers to: * Show a decent page to the user (instead of letting them see a blank or incomplete page) * Send a message to themselves that something strange has happened (allowing them to react quickly, instead of having to install log watch software for notification purposes (and many people cannot do that as they do not have control over the servers)) As far as I am aware, there is not a single reason not to have this feature. Some people seem not to like it, but that is fine; with no performance or stability risks, if you don't want to use the feature - you won't be affected. On the other hand, I will be extremely happy to have it under my belt as yet another tool I can use to make my software run better. Please don't tell me that I wouldn't need this feature if I programmed perfectly. Errors happen all the time, no matter what you do trying to prevent them. Bye, Ivan -- PHP Development Mailing List http://www.php.net/ To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php -- PHP Development Mailing List http://www.php.net/ To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php -- PHP Development Mailing List http://www.php.net/ To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
RE: [PHP-DEV] Redirect on Error (not localisation)
My bad then :) I was under the impression that we had moved passed this and no one had a real issue with it. I'll hold off on it then. John -Original Message- From: Sterling Hughes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2002 3:18 PM To: John Coggeshall Cc: 'Ivan Ristic'; 'James Aylett'; 'PHP Developers Mailing List' Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Redirect on Error (not localisation) Unless told otherwise, I'm already planning on making a few changes and committing. john, I've told you otherwise, so has derick and about half the developers on this list (not talking about the localization portion of the thread here). Quick answer: don't. If you wanna come with some patches, post them on your website, i and other people will be happy to look @ them and discuss them, but *do not* commit them without a reasonable concensus. -Sterling John -Original Message- From: Ivan Ristic [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2002 2:50 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 'James Aylett'; 'PHP Developers Mailing List' Subject: [PHP-DEV] Redirect on Error (not localisation) Anyway... So what of my actual patch we were discussing at some point? I never got a real answer as to if it would be suitable to commit. I have changed the subject of the message in an effort to separate the discussion on the Redirect on Fatal Error feature (the subject of this email) from the localisation discussion. ... As a reminder, we are discussing a patch that will redirect the user to another page when a fatal or a parse error occurs (parse errors can be caught with lint, fatal can't). The redirection will allow developers to: * Show a decent page to the user (instead of letting them see a blank or incomplete page) * Send a message to themselves that something strange has happened (allowing them to react quickly, instead of having to install log watch software for notification purposes (and many people cannot do that as they do not have control over the servers)) As far as I am aware, there is not a single reason not to have this feature. Some people seem not to like it, but that is fine; with no performance or stability risks, if you don't want to use the feature - you won't be affected. On the other hand, I will be extremely happy to have it under my belt as yet another tool I can use to make my software run better. Please don't tell me that I wouldn't need this feature if I programmed perfectly. Errors happen all the time, no matter what you do trying to prevent them. Bye, Ivan -- PHP Development Mailing List http://www.php.net/ To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php -- PHP Development Mailing List http://www.php.net/ To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php -- PHP Development Mailing List http://www.php.net/ To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP-DEV] Redirect on Error (not localisation)
John Coggeshall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote... : My bad then :) I was under the impression that we had moved passed this and no one had a real issue with it. I'll hold off on it then. Only because I18N thingie has smoothen it off doesn't mean we should get error redirects already in :) But, seriousely speaking, since there is no agreement on anything yet, let's wait. -- Maxim Maletsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] John -Original Message- From: Sterling Hughes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2002 3:18 PM To: John Coggeshall Cc: 'Ivan Ristic'; 'James Aylett'; 'PHP Developers Mailing List' Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Redirect on Error (not localisation) Unless told otherwise, I'm already planning on making a few changes and committing. john, I've told you otherwise, so has derick and about half the developers on this list (not talking about the localization portion of the thread here). Quick answer: don't. If you wanna come with some patches, post them on your website, i and other people will be happy to look @ them and discuss them, but *do not* commit them without a reasonable concensus. -Sterling John -Original Message- From: Ivan Ristic [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2002 2:50 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 'James Aylett'; 'PHP Developers Mailing List' Subject: [PHP-DEV] Redirect on Error (not localisation) Anyway... So what of my actual patch we were discussing at some point? I never got a real answer as to if it would be suitable to commit. I have changed the subject of the message in an effort to separate the discussion on the Redirect on Fatal Error feature (the subject of this email) from the localisation discussion. ... As a reminder, we are discussing a patch that will redirect the user to another page when a fatal or a parse error occurs (parse errors can be caught with lint, fatal can't). The redirection will allow developers to: * Show a decent page to the user (instead of letting them see a blank or incomplete page) * Send a message to themselves that something strange has happened (allowing them to react quickly, instead of having to install log watch software for notification purposes (and many people cannot do that as they do not have control over the servers)) As far as I am aware, there is not a single reason not to have this feature. Some people seem not to like it, but that is fine; with no performance or stability risks, if you don't want to use the feature - you won't be affected. On the other hand, I will be extremely happy to have it under my belt as yet another tool I can use to make my software run better. Please don't tell me that I wouldn't need this feature if I programmed perfectly. Errors happen all the time, no matter what you do trying to prevent them. Bye, Ivan -- PHP Development Mailing List http://www.php.net/ To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php -- PHP Development Mailing List http://www.php.net/ To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php -- PHP Development Mailing List http://www.php.net/ To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php -- PHP Development Mailing List http://www.php.net/ To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
RE: [PHP-DEV] Redirect on Error (not localisation)
On Tue, 26 Nov 2002, John Coggeshall wrote: Unless told otherwise, I'm already planning on making a few changes and committing. Like I said earlier, forget it. -1 from me too. --Jani -- PHP Development Mailing List http://www.php.net/ To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP-DEV] Redirect on Error (not localisation)
On November 26, 2002 03:09 pm, John Coggeshall wrote: Unless told otherwise, I'm already planning on making a few changes and committing. -1 Edin -- PHP Development Mailing List http://www.php.net/ To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
