php-general Digest 20 Feb 2009 10:55:08 -0000 Issue 5969

2009-02-20 Thread php-general-digest-help

php-general Digest 20 Feb 2009 10:55:08 - Issue 5969

Topics (messages 288615 through 288629):

Execute flash files with PHP
288615 by: R B
288620 by: Chris
288621 by: Chris
288622 by: tedd

Re: Unique User Hashes
288616 by: Martin Zvarík
288617 by: Chris
288618 by: Martin Zvarík
288624 by: Ashley Sheridan
288625 by: Martin Zvarík

Re: Two troublesome fields
288619 by: Terion Miller

Re: php cli memory leak error
288623 by: Jochem Maas

What good is SoapClient-__getTypes() ?
288626 by: Shanon Swafford

Re: Accessors
288627 by: Thodoris

Re: Secure File Paths, File System - (simplified question)
288628 by: Daniel Kolbo

What a VICTORY!!! My bankruptcy is DELETED!
288629 by: Anselm Cowper

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Hello.

I have two scripts in php that reads a .swf or .flv movie file, like this:

SCRIPT # 1

?php

$movie = movie.swf;

readfile($movie);
?

SCRIPT # 2

?php

$movie = movie.flv;

readfile($movie);
?

The script # 1 with the .swf file works fine: the video is executed with
streaming.
The script # 2 with the .flv file  is executed but without streaming.

If i execute the movie.flv directly (without the php script), then it´s
executed with streaming.

Do you know how can i do to execute the .flv file with php and with
straming?
I tried with fopen, readfile, but don´t works.

Thank you
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R B wrote:

Hello.

I have two scripts in php that reads a .swf or .flv movie file, like this:

SCRIPT # 1

?php

$movie = movie.swf;

readfile($movie);
?

SCRIPT # 2

?php

$movie = movie.flv;

readfile($movie);
?

The script # 1 with the .swf file works fine: the video is executed with
streaming.
The script # 2 with the .flv file  is executed but without streaming.

If i execute the movie.flv directly (without the php script), then it´s
executed with streaming.


If you change the filetype (from swf to flv) you need to change the 
headers php sends before it spits out the file.


What headers are you sending?

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R B wrote:

Hello.

I have two scripts in php that reads a .swf or .flv movie file, like this:

SCRIPT # 1

?php

$movie = movie.swf;

readfile($movie);
?

SCRIPT # 2

?php

$movie = movie.flv;

readfile($movie);
?

The script # 1 with the .swf file works fine: the video is executed with
streaming.
The script # 2 with the .flv file  is executed but without streaming.


There's a tutorial here:

http://www.flashcomguru.com/index.cfm/2005/11/2/Streaming-flv-video-via-PHP-take-two

(have not tested it myself). The php code is available for download from 
that page as well.


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There's a tutorial here:

http://www.flashcomguru.com/index.cfm/2005/11/2/Streaming-flv-video-via-PHP-take-two

(have not tested it myself). The php code is available for download 
from that page as well.


And the video there is awesome!

The narrator sounds like the one in my video:

http://webbytedd.com/bb/ice/

Cheers,

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Chris napsal(a):

Martin Zvarík wrote:

tedd napsal(a):

At 5:28 PM +0100 2/19/09, Martin Zvarík wrote:

tedd napsal(a):

At 5:10 PM +0100 2/19/09, Martin Zvarík wrote:

tedd napsal(a):

At 1:49 AM +0100 2/19/09, Martin Zvarík wrote:
Guys, I have not seen a poll where you need to input your email 
address - and if I would I would not vote - because it's a 
waste of my time... if you want me to vote you do everything 
you can to make it as pleasant as possible -- certainly that 
isn't requirement of an email validation.
Btw. google free temporary email address to see how unique email 
addresses really are - in case you meant it in reference to the poll 
voting - where you care about uniqueness of votes = people.


So instead of trolling, offer a better suggestion.
Chris, if you would read the whole thread (my first comment), I bet you 
would consider more wisely your patronizing comment.
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Martin Zvarík wrote:

Chris napsal(a):

Martin Zvarík wrote:

tedd napsal(a):

At 5:28 PM +0100 2/19/09, Martin Zvarík wrote:

tedd napsal(a):

At 5:10 PM +0100 2/19/09, Martin Zvarík wrote:

tedd napsal(a):

At 1:49 AM +0100 2/19/09, Martin Zvarík wrote:
Guys, I have not seen a poll where you need to input your email 
address - and if I would I would not vote - because it's a 
waste of my time... if you 

php-general Digest 20 Feb 2009 23:06:14 -0000 Issue 5970

2009-02-20 Thread php-general-digest-help

php-general Digest 20 Feb 2009 23:06:14 - Issue 5970

Topics (messages 288630 through 288637):

Re: Two troublesome fields
288630 by: Sean DeNigris

XML - XSLT transformation using XSLTProcessor class
288631 by: German Geek
288634 by: Boyd, Todd M.
288635 by: German Geek

mobile texting app question
288632 by: Bastien Koert

Re: Zend Guard/Optimizer alternatives?
288633 by: Jochem Maas

Re: Unique User Hashes
288636 by: Nathan Rixham
288637 by: Michael A. Peters

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From: Terion Miller webdev.ter...@gmail.com
Date: February 19, 2009 5:34:50 PM EST
To: Bastien Koert phps...@gmail.com
Cc: PHP General php-gene...@lists.php.net
Subject: Re: [PHP] Two troublesome fields
I just tried this and now it's not inserting at all where before  
everything

EXCEPT two fields go in...

$sql = INSERT INTO workorders ( CreatedDate, Location, WorkOrderName,
AdminID, FormName, Status, Notes) VALUES (;

   $sql .= Now(), ;
   $sql .= '. mysql_real_escape_string($Location) .', ;
   $sql .= '. mysql_real_escape_string($WorkOrderName) .', ;
   $sql .= '. mysql_real_escape_string($AdminID) .', ;
   $sql .= '. mysql_real_escape_string(WorkOrder) .', ;
   $sql .= '. mysql_real_escape_string(New Order) .', ;
   $sql .= '. mysql_real_escape_string($Notes) .', ;

   $WorkOrderID = mysql_insert_id();
   mysql_query($sql);


There's no closing parethesis to VALUES, try...
$sql .= '. mysql_real_escape_string($Notes) .');

Sean DeNigris
s...@clipperadams.com---End Message---
---BeginMessage---
Hi All,

We are trying to import some xml data into the database. My idea was to make
an xslt and then transform the xml to php code which generates the queries
necessary and then gets evaled as php code for the actual import...

Anyway, i got it working (mostly)!

But i need to get the current element name with x-path. So i have the
following:

rootEl
  elementAchildOfAsome data 1/childOfA/elementA
  elementBchildOfBsome data 2/childOfB/elementB
  elementBchildOfBsome data 3/childOfB/elementB
  elementAchildOfAsome data 4/childOfA/elementA
  elementAchildOfAsome data 5/childOfA/elementA
/rootEl

xsl:for-each select=//elementA | //elementB
  // xsl:value-of select=childOfA / WORKS and gives the value of
childOfA (e.g. some data 1)
  //... the php code...
/xsl:for-each

In the php code, I need to get the element tag name of the current element,
so either elementA or elementB. How can i get that in an x-path expression?

I know, this is not strictly a php question, but since the project is in php
and this list has a very good response rate, i decided to ask here. I
already looked on the web for hours, but maybe i just don't have the right
keywords.

Please help. Thanks.

Regards,
Tim

Tim-Hinnerk Heuer

http://www.ihostnz.com
P. J. O'Rourke  - Everybody knows how to raise children, except the people
who have them.
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---BeginMessage---
 -Original Message-
 From: th.he...@gmail.com [mailto:th.he...@gmail.com] On Behalf Of
 German Geek
 Sent: Friday, February 20, 2009 9:18 AM
 To: PHP General list
 Subject: [PHP] XML - XSLT transformation using XSLTProcessor class
 
 Hi All,
 
 We are trying to import some xml data into the database. My idea was to
 make
 an xslt and then transform the xml to php code which generates the
 queries
 necessary and then gets evaled as php code for the actual import...
 
 Anyway, i got it working (mostly)!
 
 But i need to get the current element name with x-path. So i have the
 following:
 
 rootEl
   elementAchildOfAsome data 1/childOfA/elementA
   elementBchildOfBsome data 2/childOfB/elementB
   elementBchildOfBsome data 3/childOfB/elementB
   elementAchildOfAsome data 4/childOfA/elementA
   elementAchildOfAsome data 5/childOfA/elementA
 /rootEl
 
 xsl:for-each select=//elementA | //elementB
   // xsl:value-of select=childOfA / WORKS and gives the value of
 childOfA (e.g. some data 1)
   //... the php code...
 /xsl:for-each
 
 In the php code, I need to get the element tag name of the current
 element,
 so either elementA or elementB. How can i get that in an x-path
 expression?
 
 I know, this is not strictly a php question, but since the project is
 in php
 and this list has a very good response rate, i decided to ask here. I
 already looked on the web for hours, but maybe i just don't have the
 right
 keywords.
 
 Please help. Thanks.

I believe the name() XPath function is what you are looking for. It's been a 
while since I've worked with XPath query strings, but I believe .[name()] 
will get you the current element's tag name. Keep in mind: I'm not sure if this 
works with 

Re: [PHP] Re: Secure File Paths, File System - (simplified question)

2009-02-20 Thread Daniel Kolbo


Shawn McKenzie wrote:

Daniel Kolbo wrote:
  

Shawn McKenzie wrote:


Daniel Kolbo wrote:
 
  

Hello PHPers,

I am quite ignorant about file system security.   I was hoping you all
could help me understand things.

How does one restrict php script from going (reading, writing) files in
the file system?
As I see it, a php programmer could change the include_path, with
ini_set(), use ../ etc..., and browse all the files on the server to
which the php engine has access.  This would clearly not be acceptable
to a web host company, so how do most hosts restrict this kind of
behaviour?

Now, suppose i only have php access to my 'files' as defined by my host
somehow.  (again, my first part of the question is how do they do
this?).  Is it possible for me to further restrict this file
accessibility for different sub-folders?  Let me provide an example
folder hierarchy and user scenario.
Suppose there are two php programmers (me and you).  I want full access,
but I want to restrict you to your subdomain (subdomain2).

+AllUsers (me and you)
+Domain1
++Subdomain1 (me only)
++Subdomain2 (me and you)
++SharedDomain (me and you)
+ServerFile1 (me only)
+ServerFile2 (me only)
+SecretFile (no user)

Thanks for helping understand how to restrict/limit different php
programmers from going into places I'd rather them not go.
dK




Two methods come to mind, chroot and just setting perms for specific
dirs.

  
  

Hello,
1) chroot
I don't understand how to specify to the php engine to chroot upon
different scripts being executed (scripts that i don't control).  Would
you please clarify?
2)perms
The php engine is what has access to specific dirs (not users,
scripts,).  That i know of, the php engine doesn't allow per user
permissions.  That is, it is one engine, one set of perms.  Are you
suggesting i have a separate php engine for each user?

3) Maybe i can simplify this question:  How does a hosting company, in a
shared virtual host server environment, prevent all their clients (php
programmers) from snooping into all the other clients' folders?  I am
assuming we are all using the same php engine, as it is a shared apache
host.




O.K.  I read and typed too fast.  In short, suexec with apache will run
a user's scripts as that user so long as php is run as cgi and not the
apache mod.  Also, virtual hosts in apache define the docroot for a
virtual host (user/domain/etc.), so other virtual hosts can't access
outside of that docroot into other virtual hosts.

So the perms part of my previous reply was related to suexec and chroot
was out of my ass because many times you would chroot apache for extra
security from the webserver in general.

  

thx for the reply shawn.


Re: [PHP] Two troublesome fields

2009-02-20 Thread Sean DeNigris

From: Terion Miller webdev.ter...@gmail.com
Date: February 19, 2009 5:34:50 PM EST
To: Bastien Koert phps...@gmail.com
Cc: PHP General php-general@lists.php.net
Subject: Re: [PHP] Two troublesome fields
I just tried this and now it's not inserting at all where before  
everything

EXCEPT two fields go in...

$sql = INSERT INTO workorders ( CreatedDate, Location, WorkOrderName,
AdminID, FormName, Status, Notes) VALUES (;

   $sql .= Now(), ;
   $sql .= '. mysql_real_escape_string($Location) .', ;
   $sql .= '. mysql_real_escape_string($WorkOrderName) .', ;
   $sql .= '. mysql_real_escape_string($AdminID) .', ;
   $sql .= '. mysql_real_escape_string(WorkOrder) .', ;
   $sql .= '. mysql_real_escape_string(New Order) .', ;
   $sql .= '. mysql_real_escape_string($Notes) .', ;

   $WorkOrderID = mysql_insert_id();
   mysql_query($sql);


There's no closing parethesis to VALUES, try...
$sql .= '. mysql_real_escape_string($Notes) .');

Sean DeNigris
s...@clipperadams.com

[PHP] XML - XSLT transformation using XSLTProcessor class

2009-02-20 Thread German Geek
Hi All,

We are trying to import some xml data into the database. My idea was to make
an xslt and then transform the xml to php code which generates the queries
necessary and then gets evaled as php code for the actual import...

Anyway, i got it working (mostly)!

But i need to get the current element name with x-path. So i have the
following:

rootEl
  elementAchildOfAsome data 1/childOfA/elementA
  elementBchildOfBsome data 2/childOfB/elementB
  elementBchildOfBsome data 3/childOfB/elementB
  elementAchildOfAsome data 4/childOfA/elementA
  elementAchildOfAsome data 5/childOfA/elementA
/rootEl

xsl:for-each select=//elementA | //elementB
  // xsl:value-of select=childOfA / WORKS and gives the value of
childOfA (e.g. some data 1)
  //... the php code...
/xsl:for-each

In the php code, I need to get the element tag name of the current element,
so either elementA or elementB. How can i get that in an x-path expression?

I know, this is not strictly a php question, but since the project is in php
and this list has a very good response rate, i decided to ask here. I
already looked on the web for hours, but maybe i just don't have the right
keywords.

Please help. Thanks.

Regards,
Tim

Tim-Hinnerk Heuer

http://www.ihostnz.com
P. J. O'Rourke  - Everybody knows how to raise children, except the people
who have them.


[PHP] mobile texting app question

2009-02-20 Thread Bastien Koert
All,

I am working on the design for an app that uses mobile phone texting to make
payments, but I am having some trouble finding out how the whole mobile
process works. I grow the CSC (common short code) set up and them acting as
a clearing house, but can anyone point me to some docs on how the process
works. From the user attempting to text a payment to my site getting the
data?

Its kinda off topic, other than the entire site / app will be php based.
Googling doesn't get me that far, but it might be more of a not knowing
exactly what its called to be able to narrow the search.

Appreciate any replies.

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Re: [PHP] Zend Guard/Optimizer alternatives?

2009-02-20 Thread Jochem Maas
Brian Dunning schreef:
 I should mention that I did try the ionCube online encoder, which I
 think is a great idea... but its runtimes failed to load on both of my
 test systems, requiring editing of php.ini. That's over the top for my
 users. I need something that's rock-solid and that will never require my
 users to have to know anything or do anything special (they are business
 people, not developers or server admins).

use a legal contract.
or make the functionality dependent on a webservice hosted on
your server (and stick the meat of the functionality on your end).
or get a client you can trust not to rape you.

 On Feb 16, 2009, at 9:10 AM, Brian Dunning wrote:
 
 Is there a cheaper alternative to Guard/Optimizer? I have a single
 small PHP file that is part of a larger solution I sell, and I want it
 to be protected - and it has to be a runtime so it will run on
 anyone's standard PHP server. Zend's $600 was a little bit of sticker
 shock. Any alternatives?
 
 
 
 


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RE: [PHP] XML - XSLT transformation using XSLTProcessor class

2009-02-20 Thread Boyd, Todd M.
 -Original Message-
 From: th.he...@gmail.com [mailto:th.he...@gmail.com] On Behalf Of
 German Geek
 Sent: Friday, February 20, 2009 9:18 AM
 To: PHP General list
 Subject: [PHP] XML - XSLT transformation using XSLTProcessor class
 
 Hi All,
 
 We are trying to import some xml data into the database. My idea was to
 make
 an xslt and then transform the xml to php code which generates the
 queries
 necessary and then gets evaled as php code for the actual import...
 
 Anyway, i got it working (mostly)!
 
 But i need to get the current element name with x-path. So i have the
 following:
 
 rootEl
   elementAchildOfAsome data 1/childOfA/elementA
   elementBchildOfBsome data 2/childOfB/elementB
   elementBchildOfBsome data 3/childOfB/elementB
   elementAchildOfAsome data 4/childOfA/elementA
   elementAchildOfAsome data 5/childOfA/elementA
 /rootEl
 
 xsl:for-each select=//elementA | //elementB
   // xsl:value-of select=childOfA / WORKS and gives the value of
 childOfA (e.g. some data 1)
   //... the php code...
 /xsl:for-each
 
 In the php code, I need to get the element tag name of the current
 element,
 so either elementA or elementB. How can i get that in an x-path
 expression?
 
 I know, this is not strictly a php question, but since the project is
 in php
 and this list has a very good response rate, i decided to ask here. I
 already looked on the web for hours, but maybe i just don't have the
 right
 keywords.
 
 Please help. Thanks.

I believe the name() XPath function is what you are looking for. It's been a 
while since I've worked with XPath query strings, but I believe .[name()] 
will get you the current element's tag name. Keep in mind: I'm not sure if this 
works with namespaced tags (like namespace:tagname /), but I have not tested 
this to be sure.

HTH,


// Todd


Re: [PHP] XML - XSLT transformation using XSLTProcessor class

2009-02-20 Thread German Geek
Thanks a lot. Sorry but 5 minutes after sending this email i figured it out
myself. I didn't know how to answer my own message because i didn't get my
own message... Anyway, this worked for me:

xsl:for-each select=//elementA | //elementB
  xsl:value-of select=name(.) /
/xsl:for-each

Hope this helps someone else...

Thanks again.

Tim

Tim-Hinnerk Heuer

http://www.ihostnz.com
Bill Watterson  - There is not enough time to do all the nothing we want to
do.

2009/2/21 Boyd, Todd M. tmbo...@ccis.edu

  -Original Message-
  From: th.he...@gmail.com [mailto:th.he...@gmail.com] On Behalf Of
  German Geek
  Sent: Friday, February 20, 2009 9:18 AM
  To: PHP General list
  Subject: [PHP] XML - XSLT transformation using XSLTProcessor class
 
  Hi All,
 
  We are trying to import some xml data into the database. My idea was to
  make
  an xslt and then transform the xml to php code which generates the
  queries
  necessary and then gets evaled as php code for the actual import...
 
  Anyway, i got it working (mostly)!
 
  But i need to get the current element name with x-path. So i have the
  following:
 
  rootEl
elementAchildOfAsome data 1/childOfA/elementA
elementBchildOfBsome data 2/childOfB/elementB
elementBchildOfBsome data 3/childOfB/elementB
elementAchildOfAsome data 4/childOfA/elementA
elementAchildOfAsome data 5/childOfA/elementA
  /rootEl
 
  xsl:for-each select=//elementA | //elementB
// xsl:value-of select=childOfA / WORKS and gives the value of
  childOfA (e.g. some data 1)
//... the php code...
  /xsl:for-each
 
  In the php code, I need to get the element tag name of the current
  element,
  so either elementA or elementB. How can i get that in an x-path
  expression?
 
  I know, this is not strictly a php question, but since the project is
  in php
  and this list has a very good response rate, i decided to ask here. I
  already looked on the web for hours, but maybe i just don't have the
  right
  keywords.
 
  Please help. Thanks.

 I believe the name() XPath function is what you are looking for. It's been
 a while since I've worked with XPath query strings, but I believe
 .[name()] will get you the current element's tag name. Keep in mind: I'm
 not sure if this works with namespaced tags (like namespace:tagname /),
 but I have not tested this to be sure.

 HTH,


 // Todd



Re: [PHP] Unique User Hashes

2009-02-20 Thread Nathan Rixham

Martin Zvarík wrote:

Ashley Sheridan napsal(a):

On Thu, 2009-02-19 at 23:34 +0100, Martin Zvarík wrote:
 

Chris napsal(a):
   

Martin Zvarík wrote:
 

Chris napsal(a):
   

Martin Zvarík wrote:
 

tedd napsal(a):
   

At 5:28 PM +0100 2/19/09, Martin Zvarík wrote:
 

tedd napsal(a):
   

At 5:10 PM +0100 2/19/09, Martin Zvarík wrote:
 

tedd napsal(a):
   

At 1:49 AM +0100 2/19/09, Martin Zvarík wrote:
 
Guys, I have not seen a poll where you need to input your 
email address - and if I would I would not vote - because 
it's a waste of my time... if you want me to vote you do 
everything you can to make it as pleasant as possible -- 
certainly that isn't requirement of an email validation.

Btw. google free temporary email address to see how unique 
email addresses really are - in case you meant it in reference to 
the poll voting - where you care about uniqueness of votes = people.


So instead of trolling, offer a better suggestion.
  
Chris, if you would read the whole thread (my first comment), I bet 
you would consider more wisely your patronizing comment.


Use the ip - which we've all said is useless.
Where's the better suggestion?
  
Nevermind, I was wrong - thank you for making me realize I am wasting 
time here.


This useless IP solution is used by 80% of websites. I was trying to 
convice you that requirement of an email validation is just, let's 
say, unwise. So, don't bark if you don't agree.


So you;'e saying that unless we agree with you, not to mention anything?


Ash
www.ashleysheridan.co.uk

I meant: You don't have to bark, if you don't agree. = We can discuss.



it's all a bit pointless, the only way to ensure only one vote per 
person is to get take and test a dns sample from each user.


anything else is going to be flawed

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Re: [PHP] Unique User Hashes

2009-02-20 Thread Michael A. Peters

Nathan Rixham wrote:





it's all a bit pointless, the only way to ensure only one vote per 
person is to get take and test a dns sample from each user.


anything else is going to be flawed



Hey now, what do you have against us clones?
;)

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Re: [PHP] Unique User Hashes

2009-02-20 Thread Nathan Rixham

Michael A. Peters wrote:

Nathan Rixham wrote:





it's all a bit pointless, the only way to ensure only one vote per 
person is to get take and test a dns sample from each user.


anything else is going to be flawed



Hey now, what do you have against us clones?
;)


and nobody noticed I said DNS sample not DNA sample - jesus thought 
somebody would have jumped on that one :p


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Re: [PHP] Unique User Hashes

2009-02-20 Thread tedd

At 11:09 PM + 2/20/09, Nathan Rixham wrote:

Michael A. Peters wrote:

Nathan Rixham wrote:

it's all a bit pointless, the only way to ensure only one vote per 
person is to get take and test a dns sample from each user.


anything else is going to be flawed



Hey now, what do you have against us clones?
;)


and nobody noticed I said DNS sample not DNA sample - jesus thought 
somebody would have jumped on that one :p



I saw it -- I just didn't want to get into the debate again with a 
troll lurking about.


Some people are so focused on the point they want to make that they 
don't hear what others are saying.


Cheers,

tedd

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[PHP] Re: mysql_real_escape_string(asdasddas) ??? wtf

2009-02-20 Thread Ross McKay
On Sat, 21 Feb 2009 19:19:44 +1300, t...@ihostnz.com wrote:

Can anyone here tell me why mysql_real_escape_string(asdasddas) returns an
empty string?

Have you opened a connection to a MySQL database? It won't work without
an open connection.
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[PHP] mysql_real_escape_string(asdasddas) ??? wtf

2009-02-20 Thread Tim | iHostNZ
Hi everyone,

Can anyone here tell me why mysql_real_escape_string(asdasddas) returns an
empty string?

Just writing a data import...

Anyway, for security but also simply because i might have a ' in the string,
i need to escape it. Apparently it is good practice to use
mysql_real_escape_string() but it simply doesn't work at all on this
machine. I thought it's a rather standard function.

Is it maybe my Apache server setup? But i thought the function wouldn't
exist then and throw an error in the php script, but it runs through fine.

Please help, we need this data import by next week hence i'm working now...

I can send you details of the server setup if required. Please let me know
what as there are quite a few things... It's xampp on windows xp
(testing/dev machine).

Regards,
Tim

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