php-general Digest 22 Aug 2013 15:34:18 -0000 Issue 8340
php-general Digest 22 Aug 2013 15:34:18 - Issue 8340 Topics (messages 321944 through 321952): Re: PHP vs JAVA 321944 by: David Harkness 321945 by: Sebastian Krebs 321952 by: David Harkness Re: Off the wall - sub-domain question 321946 by: Curtis Maurand 321947 by: Jim Giner 321948 by: Willie 321949 by: Jim Giner 321950 by: Dan McCullough 321951 by: Lester Caine Administrivia: To subscribe to the digest, e-mail: php-general-digest-subscr...@lists.php.net To unsubscribe from the digest, e-mail: php-general-digest-unsubscr...@lists.php.net To post to the list, e-mail: php-gene...@lists.php.net -- ---BeginMessage--- On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 7:56 PM, Curtis Maurand cur...@maurand.com wrote: Sebastian Krebs wrote: Actually the problem is, that the dot . is already in use. With $foo.bar() you cannot tell, if you want to call the method bar() on the object $foo, or if you want to concatenate the value of $foo to the result of the function bar(). There is no other way around this than a different operator for method calls. I didn't think of that. It seems to me there could be an easier operator than - which sometimes will make me stop and look at what keys I'm trying to hit. Just a thought. I forgot about the concatenation operator which is + in Java/C# The PHP language developers were pretty stuck. Because of automatic string-to-numeric-conversion, they couldn't use + for string concatenation. Sadly, they chose . rather than .. which I believe one or two other languages use. If they had, . would have been available once objects rolled around in PHP 4/5. I suspect they chose - since that's used in C and C++ to dereference a pointer. Ever tried the jetbrains products? :D (No, they don't pay me) I have not, but it looks interesting. I'll have to try it. Those are very good products which have had a strong following for a decade. The free IDE NetBeans also has quite good support for both Java and PHP, and the latest beta version provides a web project that provides front- and back-end debugging of PHP + JavaScript. You can be stepping through JS code and hit an AJAX call and then seamlessly step through the PHP code that handles it. I use NetBeans for PHP/HTML/JS (though I am evaluating JetBrains' PHPStorm now) and Eclipse for Java. You can't beat Eclipse's refactoring support in a free tool, though I think NetBeans is close to catching up. I would bet IntelliJ IDEA for Java by JetBrains is on par at least. Peace, David ---End Message--- ---BeginMessage--- 2013/8/22 David Harkness davi...@highgearmedia.com On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 7:56 PM, Curtis Maurand cur...@maurand.comwrote: Sebastian Krebs wrote: Actually the problem is, that the dot . is already in use. With $foo.bar() you cannot tell, if you want to call the method bar() on the object $foo, or if you want to concatenate the value of $foo to the result of the function bar(). There is no other way around this than a different operator for method calls. I didn't think of that. It seems to me there could be an easier operator than - which sometimes will make me stop and look at what keys I'm trying to hit. Just a thought. I forgot about the concatenation operator which is + in Java/C# The PHP language developers were pretty stuck. Because of automatic string-to-numeric-conversion, they couldn't use + for string concatenation. Sadly, they chose . rather than .. which I believe one or two other languages use. If they had, . would have been available once objects rolled around in PHP 4/5. I suspect they chose - since that's used in C and C++ to dereference a pointer. Actually I think .. is quite error-prone, because it is hard to distinguish from . or _ on the _first_ glance, which makes the get quickly through the code. [1] So . is maybe not the best choice, but also remember when it was introduced: That was decades ago. That time it was (probably ;)) the best choice and nowadays I don't think it is too bad at all, beside that _other_ languages use it for other purposes now ;) [1] Yes, I know, that _ is not an operator, but mixed with strings and variables names it is there ;) Ever tried the jetbrains products? :D (No, they don't pay me) I have not, but it looks interesting. I'll have to try it. Those are very good products which have had a strong following for a decade. The free IDE NetBeans also has quite good support for both Java and PHP, and the latest beta version provides a web project that provides front- and back-end debugging of PHP + JavaScript. You can be stepping through JS code and hit an AJAX call and then seamlessly step through the PHP code that handles it. I use NetBeans for PHP/HTML/JS (though I am evaluating JetBrains' PHPStorm now) and Eclipse for Java. You can't beat Eclipse's
php-general Digest 23 Aug 2013 04:28:41 -0000 Issue 8341
php-general Digest 23 Aug 2013 04:28:41 - Issue 8341 Topics (messages 321953 through 321954): PHP 5.4.19 and PHP 5.5.3 Released! 321953 by: Stas Malyshev windows files and folders permission 321954 by: Emiliano Boragina Administrivia: To subscribe to the digest, e-mail: php-general-digest-subscr...@lists.php.net To unsubscribe from the digest, e-mail: php-general-digest-unsubscr...@lists.php.net To post to the list, e-mail: php-gene...@lists.php.net -- ---BeginMessage--- Hello! The PHP development team announces the immediate availability of PHP 5.4.19 and PHP 5.5.3. These releases fix a bug in the patch for CVE-2013-4248 in OpenSSL module and compile failure with ZTS enabled in PHP 5.4, which were introduced in previously released 5.4.18 and 5.5.2. All PHP users are encouraged to upgrade to either PHP 5.5.3 or PHP 5.4.19. For source downloads of PHP 5.4.19 and PHP 5.5.3 please visit our downloads page: http://www.php.net/downloads.php Windows binaries can be found on: http://windows.php.net/download/ The list of changes is recorded in the ChangeLog at: http://www.php.net/ChangeLog-5.php Regards, Stanislav Malyshev PHP 5.4 Release Manager ---End Message--- ---BeginMessage--- Night everyone, I did a upload page and when upload a JPG file this is not available. Why this happens? Thanks a lot. Emiliano Boragina | gráfico + web desarrollos comunicación + 15 33 92 60 02 » emiliano.borag...@gmail.com © 2013 ---End Message---
Re: [PHP] Re: PHP vs JAVA
2013/8/22 David Harkness davi...@highgearmedia.com On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 7:56 PM, Curtis Maurand cur...@maurand.comwrote: Sebastian Krebs wrote: Actually the problem is, that the dot . is already in use. With $foo.bar() you cannot tell, if you want to call the method bar() on the object $foo, or if you want to concatenate the value of $foo to the result of the function bar(). There is no other way around this than a different operator for method calls. I didn't think of that. It seems to me there could be an easier operator than - which sometimes will make me stop and look at what keys I'm trying to hit. Just a thought. I forgot about the concatenation operator which is + in Java/C# The PHP language developers were pretty stuck. Because of automatic string-to-numeric-conversion, they couldn't use + for string concatenation. Sadly, they chose . rather than .. which I believe one or two other languages use. If they had, . would have been available once objects rolled around in PHP 4/5. I suspect they chose - since that's used in C and C++ to dereference a pointer. Actually I think .. is quite error-prone, because it is hard to distinguish from . or _ on the _first_ glance, which makes the get quickly through the code. [1] So . is maybe not the best choice, but also remember when it was introduced: That was decades ago. That time it was (probably ;)) the best choice and nowadays I don't think it is too bad at all, beside that _other_ languages use it for other purposes now ;) [1] Yes, I know, that _ is not an operator, but mixed with strings and variables names it is there ;) Ever tried the jetbrains products? :D (No, they don't pay me) I have not, but it looks interesting. I'll have to try it. Those are very good products which have had a strong following for a decade. The free IDE NetBeans also has quite good support for both Java and PHP, and the latest beta version provides a web project that provides front- and back-end debugging of PHP + JavaScript. You can be stepping through JS code and hit an AJAX call and then seamlessly step through the PHP code that handles it. I use NetBeans for PHP/HTML/JS (though I am evaluating JetBrains' PHPStorm now) and Eclipse for Java. You can't beat Eclipse's refactoring support in a free tool, though I think NetBeans is close to catching up. I would bet IntelliJ IDEA for Java by JetBrains is on par at least. Eclipse' code-completion and debugger never worked for me well (and most of the time: at all). It became slower and less responsive with every release. That was the reason I decided to leave it and I don't regret it :) Peace, David -- github.com/KingCrunch
Re: [PHP] Off the wall - sub-domain question
Is the subdomain also in a subfolder of the main domain? Jim Giner wrote: I have a main domain (of course) and a sub domain. I'm really trying to steer my personal stuff away from the main one and have focused all of my php development to the sub-domain. Lately I noticed that google catalogs my sub-domain site stuff under the main domain name and the links that come up lead to that domain name with the path that takes the user to the sub-domain's home folder and beyond. Is there something that php (apache??) can do to control either google's robots or the user's view (url) so that it appears as a page of my sub-domain? I'm really new at this stuff and know nothing. I'm lucky that google is even finding my site! IN advance - I apologize for this off-topic question, but this place is a source of much knowledge, so I just threw in a quick interlude here to pick someone's brain. :) -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Off the wall - sub-domain question
On 8/22/2013 8:05 AM, Curtis Maurand wrote: Is the subdomain also in a subfolder of the main domain? Jim Giner wrote: I have a main domain (of course) and a sub domain. I'm really trying to steer my personal stuff away from the main one and have focused all of my php development to the sub-domain. Lately I noticed that google catalogs my sub-domain site stuff under the main domain name and the links that come up lead to that domain name with the path that takes the user to the sub-domain's home folder and beyond. Is there something that php (apache??) can do to control either google's robots or the user's view (url) so that it appears as a page of my sub-domain? I'm really new at this stuff and know nothing. I'm lucky that google is even finding my site! IN advance - I apologize for this off-topic question, but this place is a source of much knowledge, so I just threw in a quick interlude here to pick someone's brain. :) -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php Yes - the sub is an add-on domain to my primary domain. Hence the overlap and problem. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Off the wall - sub-domain question
The only way that I know of to take care of that is to put a file in your main directory called robots.txt. In that file you will put: User-agent: * Disallow: /FolderName On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 6:19 AM, Jim Giner jim.gi...@albanyhandball.comwrote: On 8/22/2013 8:05 AM, Curtis Maurand wrote: Is the subdomain also in a subfolder of the main domain? Jim Giner wrote: I have a main domain (of course) and a sub domain. I'm really trying to steer my personal stuff away from the main one and have focused all of my php development to the sub-domain. Lately I noticed that google catalogs my sub-domain site stuff under the main domain name and the links that come up lead to that domain name with the path that takes the user to the sub-domain's home folder and beyond. Is there something that php (apache??) can do to control either google's robots or the user's view (url) so that it appears as a page of my sub-domain? I'm really new at this stuff and know nothing. I'm lucky that google is even finding my site! IN advance - I apologize for this off-topic question, but this place is a source of much knowledge, so I just threw in a quick interlude here to pick someone's brain. :) -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php Yes - the sub is an add-on domain to my primary domain. Hence the overlap and problem. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php -- Willie Matthews matthews.wil...@gmail.com
Re: [PHP] Off the wall - sub-domain question
On 8/22/2013 9:43 AM, Willie wrote: The only way that I know of to take care of that is to put a file in your main directory called robots.txt. In that file you will put: User-agent: * Disallow: /FolderName On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 6:19 AM, Jim Giner jim.gi...@albanyhandball.comwrote: On 8/22/2013 8:05 AM, Curtis Maurand wrote: Is the subdomain also in a subfolder of the main domain? Jim Giner wrote: I have a main domain (of course) and a sub domain. I'm really trying to steer my personal stuff away from the main one and have focused all of my php development to the sub-domain. Lately I noticed that google catalogs my sub-domain site stuff under the main domain name and the links that come up lead to that domain name with the path that takes the user to the sub-domain's home folder and beyond. Is there something that php (apache??) can do to control either google's robots or the user's view (url) so that it appears as a page of my sub-domain? I'm really new at this stuff and know nothing. I'm lucky that google is even finding my site! IN advance - I apologize for this off-topic question, but this place is a source of much knowledge, so I just threw in a quick interlude here to pick someone's brain. :) -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php Yes - the sub is an add-on domain to my primary domain. Hence the overlap and problem. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php I'll try it. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Off the wall - sub-domain question
So its indexing http://www.domain.com/subdomain/page.php and you would rather it index http://subdomain.domain.com/page.php. If that is the case then what Willie said holds true User-agent: * Disallow: /subdomain Place a robots.txt in the domain.com public root directory. To Googles indexer http://subdomain.domain.com/page.php and http://www.domain.com/subdomain/page.php are totally different and therefore blocking /subdomain will not affect subdomain.domain.com. Sign up for Google Webmaster and add two sites subdomain.domain and www.domain that way you can delete improperly indexed pages. Do some test scans and see if there are links on your www.domain that are linked to www.domain.com/subdomain rather then subdomain.domain.com On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 9:43 AM, Willie matthews.wil...@gmail.com wrote: The only way that I know of to take care of that is to put a file in your main directory called robots.txt. In that file you will put: User-agent: * Disallow: /FolderName On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 6:19 AM, Jim Giner jim.gi...@albanyhandball.com wrote: On 8/22/2013 8:05 AM, Curtis Maurand wrote: Is the subdomain also in a subfolder of the main domain? Jim Giner wrote: I have a main domain (of course) and a sub domain. I'm really trying to steer my personal stuff away from the main one and have focused all of my php development to the sub-domain. Lately I noticed that google catalogs my sub-domain site stuff under the main domain name and the links that come up lead to that domain name with the path that takes the user to the sub-domain's home folder and beyond. Is there something that php (apache??) can do to control either google's robots or the user's view (url) so that it appears as a page of my sub-domain? I'm really new at this stuff and know nothing. I'm lucky that google is even finding my site! IN advance - I apologize for this off-topic question, but this place is a source of much knowledge, so I just threw in a quick interlude here to pick someone's brain. :) -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php Yes - the sub is an add-on domain to my primary domain. Hence the overlap and problem. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php -- Willie Matthews matthews.wil...@gmail.com -- Thank you, Dan Cell: 484-459-2856 https://www.facebook.com/dpmccullough http://www.linkedin.com/in/danmccullough
Re: [PHP] Off the wall - sub-domain question
Jim Giner wrote: Yes - the sub is an add-on domain to my primary domain. Hence the overlap and problem. I don't think there is any way to get google to separate filing information on different subdomains from the main domain, but you can stop them filing content altogether by identifying folders you do not want them to use. I have fun with them indexing the page histories if I forget to block that particular functions .php file. -- Lester Caine - G8HFL - Contact - http://lsces.co.uk/wiki/?page=contact L.S.Caine Electronic Services - http://lsces.co.uk EnquirySolve - http://enquirysolve.com/ Model Engineers Digital Workshop - http://medw.co.uk Rainbow Digital Media - http://rainbowdigitalmedia.co.uk -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Re: PHP vs JAVA
On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 12:29 AM, Sebastian Krebs krebs@gmail.comwrote: Actually I think .. is quite error-prone, because it is hard to distinguish from . or _ on the _first_ glance, which makes the get quickly through the code. [1] I surround all operators except member access (. and -) with spaces, so that wouldn't be a problem for me. I thought there was an older language that used .., but all I can find now is Lua which was developed in the early nineties. So . is maybe not the best choice, but also remember when it was introduced: That was decades ago. That time it was (probably ;)) the best choice and nowadays I don't think it is too bad at all, beside that _other_ languages use it for other purposes now ;) C introduced . as the field access operator for structs in the early seventies, C++ kept it for object access, and Java adopted it in the early nineties. C's use of pointers required a way to access members through a pointer, and I suppose KR thought - looked like following a pointer (I agree). Since PHP was modeled on Perl and wouldn't implement objects or structs for another decade, it adopted . for string concatenation. It works fine, and I don't have too much trouble bouncing back-and-forth. I honestly would have preferred . to be overloaded when the left hand side was an object. In the rare cases that you want to convert an object to a string to be concatenated with the RHS, you can always cast it to string, use strval(), or call __toString() manually. But I'm not staging any protests over the use of -. :) Eclipse' code-completion and debugger never worked for me well (and most of the time: at all). It became slower and less responsive with every release. That was the reason I decided to leave it and I don't regret it :) I agree about the slowness, and until this latest release I've always left autocompletion manual (ctrl + space). They did something with Kepler to speed it up drastically, so much so I have it turned on with every keypress. However, it's a little too aggressive in providing choices. Typing null which is a Java keyword as in PHP, it will insert nullValue() which is a method from Hamcrest. :( After a couple weeks of this, I think I'll be switching it back to manual activation. I can type quickly enough that I only need it when I'm not sure of a method name. NetBeans, while not as good with refactoring and plugin support, is still zippier than Eclipse. And my short time with the JetBrains products found them to be fast as well. Eclipse's PHP support via PDT is not nearly as good as NetBeans, and no doubt PHPStorm beats them both. Peace, David
[PHP] PHP 5.4.19 and PHP 5.5.3 Released!
Hello! The PHP development team announces the immediate availability of PHP 5.4.19 and PHP 5.5.3. These releases fix a bug in the patch for CVE-2013-4248 in OpenSSL module and compile failure with ZTS enabled in PHP 5.4, which were introduced in previously released 5.4.18 and 5.5.2. All PHP users are encouraged to upgrade to either PHP 5.5.3 or PHP 5.4.19. For source downloads of PHP 5.4.19 and PHP 5.5.3 please visit our downloads page: http://www.php.net/downloads.php Windows binaries can be found on: http://windows.php.net/download/ The list of changes is recorded in the ChangeLog at: http://www.php.net/ChangeLog-5.php Regards, Stanislav Malyshev PHP 5.4 Release Manager -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
[PHP] windows files and folders permission
Night everyone, I did a upload page and when upload a JPG file this is not available. Why this happens? Thanks a lot. Emiliano Boragina | gráfico + web desarrollos comunicación + 15 33 92 60 02 » emiliano.borag...@gmail.com © 2013 -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
