Re: [PHP] xmldoc
On 23/06/06, weetat [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anybody have any ideas what happening here ? Try this as the first line ?php ini_set('display_errors', 1); ? You can remove it later, of course, but it would enable displaying php errors as it's commonly disabled in production systems, AFAIK.. /ahmed -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] STRING TO ASCII CHARACTERS
On 23/06/06, cajbecu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: $data .= #.ord(substr($string,$i,1)).;; and I think there's no need for substr.. just $data .= #.$string[$i].;; /ahmed -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] detect user click stop button in browser
On 23/06/06, Richard Lynch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, June 22, 2006 4:16 am, weetat wrote: An javascript thingie for onStop if it exists might help. window.onunload /ahmed -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] php calendar
On 19/06/06, Ryan A [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: guess i am using special version of google... an iGoogle? ;) /ahmed -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] file_exists() behind firewall
On 17/06/06, Richard Lynch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I dunno if AJAX will let you quit partway through, but you could definitely do this with the lean and mean hand-coded XmlHttpRequest object and sending HEAD to see if the URL is there or not. For security reasons, an XMLHttpRequest objects can only communicate with the originating server. And even if it could, it supports only HTTP (so the PDFs have to be put on a web server behind the firewall). You might want to consider a client-side technology that supports more protocols than just HTTP (e.g a signed Java applet that prompts users for the necessary permissions, ?) if that's not the case (SSH, or even in a database.. ) /ahmed -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] transfer file
Hi Richard.. On 15/06/06, Richard Lynch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: HTTP just plain ain't gonna let you open a file up for writing -- thank god. I think it does in form of PUT requests.. http://www.w3.org/Protocols/rfc2616/rfc2616-sec9.html (apparently not supported by PHP streams(?)) Security restrictions to keep away black hats might be enforced through HTTP authentication. /ahmed -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] serving video files with php
On 15/06/06, Andras Kende [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there any drawback servings video files through php downloader script on high load site? the question is why you want that? If you want to log how many times/when the video files were viewed, you can send the request to a PHP script that does the logging first and then send an HTTP redirection to the actual video file (but actually users could bypass logging if they head directly for the video URL).. If you manipulate the video file on-the-fly, I think you might need to consider caching with the above solution .. /ahmed -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] list noise [WAS: How to find img tag and get src of image]
On 4/25/06, Robert Cummings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you carefully comb the archives you'll see that many of us that make quite liberal use of RTFM also quite often give answers to the same simple questions, and often quite recently. That's a _quite_ true statement, I think :) I have been reading the list for around a year now but unfortunately I haven't really been active. I think maybe we can handle the newbie-style of threads with a protocol (a stateless one is much recommended ;) a) Write a short answer or a pointer to some page about the subject (where an answer could be found. Same applies to the PHP manual) b) Write a pointer to a How-to-ask-questions-the-smart-way-style document, gently pointing out what was wrong. RTFMs may be well deserved if the come back doing it again (which doesn't happen that often) Regards, Ahmed
Re: [PHP] PHP Standard style of writing your code
On 4/25/06, Richard Lynch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Now *THAT* would be a feature worth paying for in an IDE! :-) Well, you actually don't have to pay anything. TruStudion PHP foundation version (read free/open source version) has a decent code formatter and a pretty neat editor: argument order, code completion and insight working with PHP 4 and 5 (unlike PHPEclipse), code templates, ... http://www.xored.com/trustudio Regards, Ahmed
Re: [PHP] strange php url
On 4/21/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: redirects to: http://www.example.com/index.php?action=edittype=customerid=1234adminaccess=1 and you put admin access flags (read, determine roles) in URL parameters? -ahmed
Re: [PHP] CURLOPT_BINARYTRANSFER
Hi Richard, On 4/12/06, Richard Lynch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I need the cookies and all that... There's a PHP implementation of an HTTP client at http://www.phpclasses.org/browse/package/576.html Even if you needed to tweak something, it should be easier to modify and debug good luck /ahmed
[PHP] Re: interview
On 4/13/06, Mad Unix [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: can you please send some interview questions for php i have in few days to inteview some people. Well, a simple google search could have saved you all this http://www.google.com/search?q=php+interview+questions and do NOT try PHP at home! It's highly flammable ;) /ahmed
Re: [PHP] wrapping anchor tags around a URL
On 1/26/06, Richard K Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: @(http://\S+)(?!\.)@ -- this still captures everything @(http://\S+?)(?!\.)@-- this captures too little hmm maybe this would work? @http://.+(?=\.)@
Re: [PHP] wrapping anchor tags around a URL
On 1/23/06, Richard K Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: function link_the_links($s) { return preg_replace('@(http://[^\s]+)@sm', 'a href=$1$1/a', $s); } I've got to somehow ignore the trailing period if it is present. if ($s[strlen($s)-1] == '.'){ $s = substr($s, 0, -1); } -ahmed
Re: [PHP] wrapping anchor tags around a URL
On 1/25/06, Ahmed Saad [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 1/23/06, Richard K Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: function link_the_links($s) { return preg_replace('@(http://[^\s]+)@sm', 'a href=$1$1/a', $s); } if ($s[strlen($s)-1] == '.'){ $s = substr($s, 0, -1); } oops! sorry i thought $s had only one link (per time) no all of them -ahmed
Re: [PHP] wrapping anchor tags around a URL
On 1/25/06, Ahmed Saad [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 1/25/06, Ahmed Saad [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 1/23/06, Richard K Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: function link_the_links($s) { return preg_replace('@(http://[^\s]+)@sm', 'a href=$1$1/a', $s); } try looking ahead in the first regex http://www.regular-expressions.info/lookaround.html -ahmed
Re: [PHP] FW: error de php!
On 1/18/06, Miguel Guirao [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: $this-$NumDias = $unixtime2 - $unixtime1; --- This is the line 44 hmm wasn't it supposed to be $this-NumDias? (with no $ before the propery name) -ahmed
Re: [PHP] Image handling advice needed
On 1/18/06, William Stokes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'am trying to deside between two options. To resize (=scale down) the images once they are uploaded to server and store the smaller file or upload and store the original BIG file and scale it to thumbnail once it's viewed. Any opinnions about this. Why not scaled them once and for all (first option)? are you going to need them in BIG size on the server or anything else? -ahmed
Re: [PHP] detecting file size
Ahmed basha :) On 12/12/05, Ahmed Abdel-Aliem [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i know i can detect the file size after being uploaded, but i do want to detect the file after it is being uploaded to the server. You may want to read this code walkthrough http://blog.joshuaeichorn.com/archives/2005/05/01/ajax-file-upload-progress/ -ahmed
RE: [PHP] Why do Sessions use Cookies?
Hi Michael, On 12/3/05, Michael B Allen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why do sessions use cookies? 'cause HTTP is a stateless protocol ... check Wikiepedia on HTTP Cookies at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HTTP_cookies and RFC 2109 http://www.cse.ohio-state.edu/cgi-bin/rfc/rfc2109.html such statelessness is the source of one of the major attack types in Web applications: Session Hijacking... Chris has more to say here http://shiflett.org/articles/security-corner-aug2004 (hello Chris :) Isn't a session just a container associated with the user's socket No it's not, 'cause if so, the clien has to keep a socket open to the server during the whole session... statelessness has design benefits ... Regards, Ahmed
RE: [PHP] What software do you use for writing PHP?
Hi Jeff, On 12/6/05, Jeff McKeon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm sure there's better software out there that is more suited to writing and editing PHP pages. What do you all use? Eclipse + TruFoundation (PHP/Python) + JSEclipse + CSSEditor + Web Standard Tools (HTML/XML/...) Well, first of all, these are open source and/or free (for commercial use, so no Zend or NuSphere price tags)... TruPHP has auto-completion (both user defined and builtin functions/classes); class insight; debugging; instant syntax checking and error highlighting; code folding among other features... In Eclipse, you can manage your code through CVS, Subversion (using Subclipse), FTP, WebDav, ... or just the little built-in History feature... I use Eclipse also for Java (JDT) and C/C++ (CDT) development... Eclipse has plugins for nearly anything you want... As for editors, i use Kate, and VIM when i'm not running X... Eclipse and Web Standard Tools: http://www.eclipse.org TruFoundation: http://www.xored.com/trustudio JSEclipse: http://www.interaktonline.com/Products/Eclipse/JSEclipse/Overview/ CSSEditor: http://csseditor.sourceforge.net/ Subclipse (SVN support): http://subclipse.tigris.org/ Clay (database modeling): http://www.azzurri.jp/en/software/clay/index.jsp -ahmed
RE: [PHP] Security question
Hi Andy, On 12/7/05, Andy Pieters [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Right now when the user is logged in, I put its id in the session. Then when the user edits his details I put the id in the form and when it comes back I verify if the id matches the one in the session. Well, is session data saved in a secure place on the server side? Read Form Processing and Sessions sections in the PHP Security Guide http://phpsec.org/projects/guide/ Regards, Ahmed
RE: [PHP] $_POST returns Array when getting data from multiple dropdown
On 12/1/05, Erfan Shirazi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: foreach($_POST as $key = $tempvalue) { $cVariable .= $key.=.$tempvalue.; } Is there anyway I can get the values chosen instead of just Array? check for that first using is_array() and then loop through it appending it to the string -ahmed
RE: [PHP] Database Class Help
On 12/1/05, Albert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The downside of this is that you do not have persistent connections which last beyond the end of the script. Maybe it's not a real downside :) http://wordpress.org/support/topic/42389 and http://www.mysql.com/news-and-events/newsletter/2002-11/a86.html -ahmed
Re: [PHP] MVC platform choice.
On 11/30/05, Gregory Machin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi.. Any body recomend a good MVC platform that is easy to work with, and build on... http://www.agavi.org 0.10rc is already in the svn -ahmed
RE: [PHP] MVC platform choice.
Hi Greg, On 12/1/05, Greg Donald [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Do you still have to reassign the data in the view for use in the template after having already created it once in the action? That is quite the pain. in View::execute() you can quickly import all request parameters or attributes into your template... for parameters, use View::importAttributes() (yes the name is correct) for attributes use $this-setAttributes($request-getAttributes()); be sure to check out the latest SVN version for many bugfixes and enhancments -ahmed
Re: [PHP] Advice Needed for Klorofil Open Source PHP Platform
On 11/28/05, Reza Iqbal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As a new open source project, we will need many advice in order to make it success. ah an open source project with encoded source code?! how come? -ahmed
Re: [PHP] Can't execute external program
On 11/21/05, Voip tech [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ?php exec(/var/www/html/myprog -E 123456789098.dat sample1.txt sample1.new); ? use ? system (/var/www/html/myprog -E 123456789098.dat sample1.txt sample1.new, $return_val); ? and check $return_val? -ahmed
Re: [PHP] SQL Password() function
On 11/26/05, Yaswanth Narvaneni [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I 'dont' want to use something like select * from table where table.passwd=password($passwd); Well, i think you better use a specific password hashing function rather than MySQL's password() 'cause it's implementation is not consistent across versions (IIRC. they broke backward compatibility in version 5).. Use md5() or sha1() so you know what alghorithm is used and you can be almost sure that implementation across langauges and versions is the same. so when you store the password do a query like: $sql .= INSERT INTO sometable (name, password) VALUES ('someuser', md5('somepassword')); PHP has an md5() and sha1() too, check the manual for them -ahmed
Re: [PHP] When to make a class
On 11/26/05, Todd Cary [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: /* Input a field */ function input_field($name, $value, $size, $max) { echo('INPUT TYPE=text NAME=' . $name . ' VALUE=' . $value . ' SIZE=' . $size . ' MAXLENGTH=' . $max . ''); }; A bit away from your OO question, but IMHO, such function good in terms of rapid coding but bad if you ever get a graphic/web designer to redo your designs 'cause he or she will be all (!!) at your php code. -ahmed -- -ahmed
Re: [PHP] When to make a class
On 11/27/05, Todd Cary [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ahmed - Been there! What would you suggest? My HTML looks like this if I use this look at http://smarty.php.net -ahmed
[PHP] calling static methods of variable class names
hi all, how can i call static methods of a class whose name is variable.. something like ? $className::doSomething(); // throws a parser error ? I can do this with reflection by creating a ReflectionMethod object then invoke()ing it, but is there a better way? Thanks -ahmed
Re: [PHP] Big file encryption
hi david, On 7/14/05, david forums [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So I need to know a way to be able to encrypt large file. function readfile_chunked ($filename) { $chunksize = 1*(1024*1024); // it reads 1 mb per chunck. adjust this if u need. $buffer = ''; $handle = fopen($filename, 'rb'); if ($handle === false) { return false; } while (!feof($handle)) { $buffer = fread( $handle, $chunksize ); // do whatever with the chuck you read. // you can encrypt it and write all the chunks to the same file // (open a file for writing before the loop) } return fclose( $handle ); } -ahmed -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] How to run .sql files using php
hi babu On 7/13/05, babu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i have a set of queries which i have placed them in one .sql file.i want to run this file using php's mssql and oracle(oci) functions. you need a database abstraction layer to help you with that (adodb for example) function fireSQL( $driver ) { // establish the connection to the database using the specified driver // read SQL from the file (probably tokenizing it into sql statements) // feed the sql into the connection } -ahmed -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Big file encryption
hi Skippy On 7/14/05, Skippy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Quoting Ahmed Saad [EMAIL PROTECTED]: // do whatever with the chuck you read. // you can encrypt it and write all the chunks to the same file But if you encrypt one chunk at a time and concatenate them later, or if you encrypt the whole thing, will you still get the same result? i think the point is encrypting/decrypting the file contents not *how* to encrypt/decrypt it but I'll do some experiments :) -ahmed -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
[PHP] Re: [PHP-DB] Security question [was Searchable/Sortable Database Fields with MySQL/PHP]
Hi jeffrey, On 7/13/05, Jeffrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is it worth encrypting data on the database tables when anyone who can access the application itself - or better still the server - could readily access the encrypted data? Assuming SSL connections, secure server, etc, would you also encrypt on the DB? What type of encryption you mean? For one-way encryption algorithms (widely employed to store passwords) the data can't be recovered (except by brute force attacks, a time- and resource-consuming process that can take forever). For two-way encryption algorithms, the data has to be decrypted at some point for a legitimate controlled use. If the decryption process is done inside your web application code, then why wouldn't the attacker (assuming he/she has gained access to the server) read your source code to find out how to decrypt the data? I haven't been through this before so this is just what i think about it. -ahmed -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Session problems
On 7/13/05, Richard Lynch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think you need to call session_name() *BEFORE* session_start() but I could be wrong about that... totally right! in the php manual, The session name is reset to the default value stored in session.name at request startup time. Thus, you need to call session_name() for every request (and before session_start() or session_register() are called). -ahmed -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Logout help needed
Hi Suma, On 7/11/05, suma parakala [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Since i have placed logout in head frame its being logged out from head frame only. How i can log out from all three frames. anyone please help me Thanks Redirect the user to another page, which loads in the main window (not in a frame), that logs the user out. Something like a href=logout.php target=_top /Logout/a -ahmed -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
[PHP] how to get time cost for MySQL query
On 7/11/05, x [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Since we can see the time cost each time we query MySQL through MySQL console (such as 75 rows in set (0.01 sec)), so I am wondering there is already an existing function which will return the value... I think you are confusing two things: mysql server and mysql command-line client. The time cost is calculated at the client side in mysql command-line client. It's not retrieved from the server but rather calculated with the help of three functions defined in mysql.cc: start_timer, end_timer, mysql_end_time (all are internal functions that don't have anything to do with the server). It's done more or less the way you would normally do it in php: (1) take down current time (2) do the query (3) take down time again and calculate the difference. -ahmed -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] sockets
hi all, On Tue, 2005-07-12 at 16:49 +0200, daro wrote: Also remember to set_time_limit(0) ;) PHP ENTER CONFUSION The *CLI* version of php has no max execution time by default (0) - Where's the php CLI version in php4? [PHP_HOME]/cli/php.exe and it reads a php.ini if it was in the SAME directory or as specified using -c [DIRECTORY] (but apparently ignoring the max_execution_time value even it was specified in php.ini) - Oh and what's the $PHP_HOME/php.exe in a typical php4 distribution? it's the CGI executable (according to the accompanying READM) - And what's the CLI one in php5? [PHP_HOME]/php.exe and it reads php-cli.ini!! (note that this was the CGI one in php4) - Oh la la and where's CGI one in php5? [PHP_HOME]/php-cgi.exe Can i ini_set() the value of max_execution_time during runtime when using the cli versions? YES!! I've done some personal experimentation to confirm all the above. Tested with PHP/4.3.9 and PHP/5.0.2 -ahmed -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Number of users
On 7/12/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 2. If I write down the IP of a user that log on my web site, can I check later if the IP still browsing pages at my web site or if he had left my website? Don't assume that every IP maps to only ONE user. IPs are often masqueraded so many many users can share a single IP. Session IDs are the key to what you want. -ahmed -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
[PHP] Missing or wrong reply-to headers in this mailing list
Hi all, I've been around this list for a month or something but i just discovered today that all my replies weren't sent to the list but instead to the individual who sent the message. I haven't administered any list systems before but at Apache for example it appends a reply-to header pointing to the mailing list posting addresss (php-general@lists.php.net, in our case). You hit reply and type the message. I think it rather confusing as we have to add php-general@lists.php.net in CC or TO fields and it results in duplicate messages. Can the list administators can fix this? (appending the correct reply-to header) And please anybody who got my messages foreward it to the list just to share ideas. Thanks for your help. -ahmed -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Missing or wrong reply-to headers in this mailing list
Hi Chris On 7/12/05, Chris W. Parker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This has come up many times in the past and so far it has not changed. Just hit the Reply to All button and you'll be fine. thanks for pointing that out -ahmed -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Missing or wrong reply-to headers in this mailing list
On 7/12/05, John Nichel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can of Worms Status : Open oh yeah sure -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] How to read PHP variables.
Hi Bruno, On 7/12/05, Bruno B B Magalhães [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi you all! $vars['varname'] = 'varvalue'; And I would like to have a module to change those parameters, but I don't know how to write a pattern to match it... i think you mean an API to help you manage and persist your application settings (something more or less like the Preferences API in java) and your format have to be much simpler like .ini format (key = value) or some variation take a look at phpclasses.org search results for ini http://www.google.com/custom?domains=www.phpclasses.orgq=inisa=Searchsitesearch=www.phpclasses.orgclient=pub-2951707118576741forid=1channel=5742870948ie=ISO-8859-1oe=ISO-8859-1cof=GALT%3A%23663399%3BGL%3A1%3BDIV%3A%2322%3BVLC%3A663399%3BAH%3Acenter%3BBGC%3AA3C5CC%3BLBGC%3AA3C5CC%3BALC%3AFF%3BLC%3AFF%3BT%3A00%3BGFNT%3AFF%3BGIMP%3AFF%3BLH%3A50%3BLW%3A256%3BL%3Ahttp%3A%2F%2Ffiles.phpclasses.org%2Fgraphics%2Fgooglesearch.jpg%3BS%3Ahttp%3A%2F%2Fwww.phpclasses.org%2Fsearch.html%3BFORID%3A1%3Bhl=en an alternative way is using XML to store your settings and use the PHP XML support for parsing/manipulating these files. -ahmed -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] sockets
Hi André, On 7/12/05, André Medeiros [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Since there was no reference to that on the PHP manual, I thought about mentioning it just to be safe. yeah the manual is completely drak when it comes to php CLI binary -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] sockets
On 7/13/05, Greg Donald [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: `php -h` tells you all the command line options.. and all the basic fuctionality is covered in the manual online. Seems complete to me. ehmm you weren't refering to the CLI version but anyways, I'd be grateful to anyone who points me to more information about other differences between the CGI and CLI versions (besides max_exection_times and configuration files). thanks -ahmed -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Missing or wrong reply-to headers in this mailing list
On 7/13/05, Chris W. Parker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've been doing that forever and I've never had anyone complain? Did you get this message twice? i fell it my inbox though normally the filter would just skip -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Missing or wrong reply-to headers in this mailing list
On 7/13/05, Ahmed Saad [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i fell it my inbox though normally the filter would just skip sorry i meant it fell in my inbox where my gmail filters would normally skip te inbox step and just apply the label -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php