Re: [PHP] Change color of anything in double/single quotes
On Sun, 2009-04-26 at 22:52 +0530, Sudheer Satyanarayana wrote: > Robert Cummings wrote: > > I was about to say the same thing *lol*. tis true though, the class > > should be "doubleQuoted" or something similar. What happens when they > > decide it should be blue? > > > > > Aren't CSS class names supposed to be in lower case? I would go with > something like "double_quoted". CSS class names are case-sensitive. IE supports insensitivity in non-standards mode. You're probably confusing the following: C.13. Cascading Style Sheets (CSS) and XHTML 1. CSS style sheets for XHTML should use lower case element and attribute names. This does not refer to attribute values. Cheers, Rob. -- http://www.interjinn.com Application and Templating Framework for PHP -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Change color of anything in double/single quotes
Robert Cummings wrote:
I was about to say the same thing *lol*. tis true though, the class
should be "doubleQuoted" or something similar. What happens when they
decide it should be blue?
Aren't CSS class names supposed to be in lower case? I would go with
something like "double_quoted".
span.red
{
color: blue;
}
Uh huh, uh huh, uh huh :)
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Re: [PHP] Change color of anything in double/single quotes
At 11:59 AM -0400 4/26/09, Robert Cummings wrote: On Sun, 2009-04-26 at 11:40 -0400, tedd wrote: > While it might not fit with the purest css, it works for me. YMMV. :-) Your thinking is flawed. Yes you could have a class called center and it does exactly that... center the text. However to make the text left aligned you now need to edit the HTML to assign the class left intead of center. The whole point of CSS is to not edit the HTML to make stylistic changes. It maybe be obvious that having classes center and red makes the content centered and coloured red, but that is no different than having an align attribute and a color attribute which is EXACTLY what CSS is supposed to replace. Cheers, Rob. Rob: I truly see your point and I don't disagree with it. However, there are times where the client says "I want this centered" and center it you must without giving that section of text an attribute name. Sure I could say "I know the client wants this selection-of-text centered and he isn't willing (or agree) to give this selection-of-text a name, so I'll do it. I'll call it this 'selection-of-text' "selection-of-text". That way years from now when the client says "I no longer want that selection-of-text centered but right justified" I can change a single rule in the "selection-of-text" class attribute and the critter will be done without me altering a single line of html. Sure, that sounds good.. But experience has shown me that when that happens, the client usually doesn't single out that specific "selection-of-text" the same way again but rather picks something even more convoluted thereby defeating the entire process. I realize that the entire idea here is to remove any need to alter the html to make styling changes, but clients usually negate that concept for when they want to change things, it's not just styling they want to change, but everything. Also try explaining style sheets to a client and why they should think in terms of elements, blocks of text, maintenance, separating style from presentation, and all that other noble stuff, when all they what is to make something bold, centered, red, or all three. For example, I have one client who's entire web site shows the same explanation-link on each page the exact same way and then he said "Oh, on page 43, let's change that from blue and bold to red and right justified." As such, I had to write page specific code to make that single change for that specific page plus writing a new css rule. Using css the correct way would have never saved me from the additional html work. Sometimes simple is not only simpler, but easier to understand and faster to implement -- especially when you are dealing with clients who have absolutely no understanding of the proper ways of doing things. They just want their eclectic stuff shown they way they think, which is usually anything but organized. Cheers, tedd -- --- http://sperling.com http://ancientstones.com http://earthstones.com -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Change color of anything in double/single quotes
On Sun, 2009-04-26 at 11:40 -0400, tedd wrote:
> At 9:47 AM -0400 4/26/09, Robert Cummings wrote:
> >On Sun, 2009-04-26 at 14:49 +0100, Ashley Sheridan wrote:
> > > On Sun, 2009-04-26 at 09:41 -0400, tedd wrote:
> > > > > ?>
> > > >
> > > I'd go further on that and say don't call your class 'red', as it
> > > doesn't do anything for semantic code, but that's just me trolling ;)
> >
> >I was about to say the same thing *lol*. tis true though, the class
> >should be "doubleQuoted" or something similar. What happens when they
> >decide it should be blue?
> >
> >span.red
> >{
> > color: blue;
> >}
> >
> >Uh huh, uh huh, uh huh :)
>
>
> I fully understand, but I also see two side to this.
>
> On one side, I agree that one should always keep attributes vague
> enough so they can be anything, such as class="warning" and that way
> the client may say "I don't want it red now, but orange" and it will
> be easy enough to change.
>
> On the other side, some attributes may be exactly what they claim,
> such as class="center" or class="red". There is little confusion
> about what those classes mean as compared to more vague terms. As
> such, exact attributes are indeed semantic.
>
> So as I see it, with *some* attributes it's a toss-up -- you can add
> a layer of abstraction by making them vague OR you can use a more
> exact (semantic) meaning. I don't find much fault with either way
> provided that it's not a big problem later. The dividing line here is
> one of how much work it causes.
>
> Additional consideration, one can combine exact attributes, such as
> class="center red" and it both works and is obvious.
>
> I often have in my css, rules such as:
>
> .center
> {
> text-align: center;
> }
>
> .red
> {
> color: red;
> }
>
> While it might not fit with the purest css, it works for me. YMMV. :-)
Your thinking is flawed. Yes you could have a class called center and it
does exactly that... center the text. However to make the text left
aligned you now need to edit the HTML to assign the class left intead of
center. The whole point of CSS is to not edit the HTML to make stylistic
changes. It maybe be obvious that having classes center and red makes
the content centered and coloured red, but that is no different than
having an align attribute and a color attribute which is EXACTLY what
CSS is supposed to replace.
Cheers,
Rob.
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Re: [PHP] Change color of anything in double/single quotes
On Sun, 2009-04-26 at 11:40 -0400, tedd wrote:
> At 9:47 AM -0400 4/26/09, Robert Cummings wrote:
> >On Sun, 2009-04-26 at 14:49 +0100, Ashley Sheridan wrote:
> > > On Sun, 2009-04-26 at 09:41 -0400, tedd wrote:
> > > > > ?>
> > > >
> > > I'd go further on that and say don't call your class 'red', as it
> > > doesn't do anything for semantic code, but that's just me trolling ;)
> >
> >I was about to say the same thing *lol*. tis true though, the class
> >should be "doubleQuoted" or something similar. What happens when they
> >decide it should be blue?
> >
> >span.red
> >{
> > color: blue;
> >}
> >
> >Uh huh, uh huh, uh huh :)
>
>
> I fully understand, but I also see two side to this.
>
> On one side, I agree that one should always keep attributes vague
> enough so they can be anything, such as class="warning" and that way
> the client may say "I don't want it red now, but orange" and it will
> be easy enough to change.
>
> On the other side, some attributes may be exactly what they claim,
> such as class="center" or class="red". There is little confusion
> about what those classes mean as compared to more vague terms. As
> such, exact attributes are indeed semantic.
>
> So as I see it, with *some* attributes it's a toss-up -- you can add
> a layer of abstraction by making them vague OR you can use a more
> exact (semantic) meaning. I don't find much fault with either way
> provided that it's not a big problem later. The dividing line here is
> one of how much work it causes.
>
> Additional consideration, one can combine exact attributes, such as
> class="center red" and it both works and is obvious.
>
> I often have in my css, rules such as:
>
> .center
> {
> text-align: center;
> }
>
> .red
> {
> color: red;
> }
>
> While it might not fit with the purest css, it works for me. YMMV. :-)
>
> Cheers,
>
> tedd
>
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>
I think with semantic CSS names, it's more about why the text has to be
red, than what colour it is. So if it's red because it is a warning,
alert, etc, then it can sometimes be better to give it a name that
reflects that. This is mostly down to preference though really. I say
mostly, because some UA's might use the class names to derive
microformat information, such as dates, author names, etc.
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Re: [PHP] Change color of anything in double/single quotes
At 9:47 AM -0400 4/26/09, Robert Cummings wrote:
On Sun, 2009-04-26 at 14:49 +0100, Ashley Sheridan wrote:
> On Sun, 2009-04-26 at 09:41 -0400, tedd wrote:
> >
> >
> I'd go further on that and say don't call your class 'red', as it
> doesn't do anything for semantic code, but that's just me trolling ;)
I was about to say the same thing *lol*. tis true though, the class
should be "doubleQuoted" or something similar. What happens when they
decide it should be blue?
span.red
{
color: blue;
}
Uh huh, uh huh, uh huh :)
I fully understand, but I also see two side to this.
On one side, I agree that one should always keep attributes vague
enough so they can be anything, such as class="warning" and that way
the client may say "I don't want it red now, but orange" and it will
be easy enough to change.
On the other side, some attributes may be exactly what they claim,
such as class="center" or class="red". There is little confusion
about what those classes mean as compared to more vague terms. As
such, exact attributes are indeed semantic.
So as I see it, with *some* attributes it's a toss-up -- you can add
a layer of abstraction by making them vague OR you can use a more
exact (semantic) meaning. I don't find much fault with either way
provided that it's not a big problem later. The dividing line here is
one of how much work it causes.
Additional consideration, one can combine exact attributes, such as
class="center red" and it both works and is obvious.
I often have in my css, rules such as:
.center
{
text-align: center;
}
.red
{
color: red;
}
While it might not fit with the purest css, it works for me. YMMV. :-)
Cheers,
tedd
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Re: [PHP] Change color of anything in double/single quotes
On Sun, 2009-04-26 at 14:49 +0100, Ashley Sheridan wrote:
> On Sun, 2009-04-26 at 09:41 -0400, tedd wrote:
> > At 1:40 PM -0400 4/25/09, Andrew Hucks wrote:
> > >If I have something like $string = '"hello" there'; (the word hello is
> > >in double quotes, if you can't see it), how would I output it as
> > >something like "hello" there.
> >
> > Arrggg.
> >
> > Don't use: ""hello""
> >
> > The font tag is dead and embedded styling should moved to css.
> >
> > There are lot's of ways to do this, here's one:
> >
> >
> >
> > You might also check out first-child in css. That way you can make
> > "hello" in red and "there" in whatever the element color is in one
> > statement.
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > tedd
> >
> >
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> >
> I'd go further on that and say don't call your class 'red', as it
> doesn't do anything for semantic code, but that's just me trolling ;)
I was about to say the same thing *lol*. tis true though, the class
should be "doubleQuoted" or something similar. What happens when they
decide it should be blue?
span.red
{
color: blue;
}
Uh huh, uh huh, uh huh :)
Cheers,
Rob.
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Re: [PHP] Change color of anything in double/single quotes
On Sun, 2009-04-26 at 09:41 -0400, tedd wrote: > At 1:40 PM -0400 4/25/09, Andrew Hucks wrote: > >If I have something like $string = '"hello" there'; (the word hello is > >in double quotes, if you can't see it), how would I output it as > >something like "hello" there. > > Arrggg. > > Don't use: ""hello"" > > The font tag is dead and embedded styling should moved to css. > > There are lot's of ways to do this, here's one: > > > > You might also check out first-child in css. That way you can make > "hello" in red and "there" in whatever the element color is in one > statement. > > Cheers, > > tedd > > > -- > --- > http://sperling.com http://ancientstones.com http://earthstones.com > I'd go further on that and say don't call your class 'red', as it doesn't do anything for semantic code, but that's just me trolling ;) Ash www.ashleysheridan.co.uk -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Change color of anything in double/single quotes
At 1:40 PM -0400 4/25/09, Andrew Hucks wrote: If I have something like $string = '"hello" there'; (the word hello is in double quotes, if you can't see it), how would I output it as something like "hello" there. Arrggg. Don't use: ""hello"" The font tag is dead and embedded styling should moved to css. There are lot's of ways to do this, here's one: You might also check out first-child in css. That way you can make "hello" in red and "there" in whatever the element color is in one statement. Cheers, tedd -- --- http://sperling.com http://ancientstones.com http://earthstones.com -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Change color of anything in double/single quotes
That's what I was just about saying, in addition try to add the HTML
entities to the regular expression as well:
$string = preg_replace('/(?:& #34;|")(.*?)(?:& #34;|")/', '"\\1"', $string);
Also if you don't to get caught by the HTML validator you better surround
the color name with double quotes ;)
HTH,
Nitsan
On Sat, Apr 25, 2009 at 9:42 PM, Daniel Brown wrote:
> On Sat, Apr 25, 2009 at 13:50, Marc Steinert wrote:
> >
> > $string = preg_replace('/"(.*?)"/', '"\\1"',
> > $string);
>
> Close, but I'd also recommend dropping in a 'Us' modifier so that
> it is `U`ngreedy and `s`pans lines.
>
> $regexp = '/"(.*?)"/Us';
> ?>
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Re: [PHP] Change color of anything in double/single quotes
On Sat, Apr 25, 2009 at 13:50, Marc Steinert wrote:
>
> $string = preg_replace('/"(.*?)"/', '"\\1"',
> $string);
Close, but I'd also recommend dropping in a 'Us' modifier so that
it is `U`ngreedy and `s`pans lines.
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Re: [PHP] Change color of anything in double/single quotes
On Apr 25, 2009, at 13:40, Andrew Hucks wrote: If I have something like $string = '"hello" there'; (the word hello is in double quotes, if you can't see it), how would I output it as something like "hello" there. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php Try Echo "& #34;hello & #34;"; Remove the space between the ampersand and the hash mark Bastien -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
[PHP] Change color of anything in double/single quotes
If I have something like $string = '"hello" there'; (the word hello is in double quotes, if you can't see it), how would I output it as something like "hello" there. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Change color of anything in double/single quotes
Andrew Hucks wrote:
If I have something like $string = '"hello" there'; (the word hello is
in double quotes, if you can't see it), how would I output it as
something like "hello" there.
Try
$string = preg_replace('/"(.*?)"/', '"\\1"', $string);
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