[PHP] PHP vs ASP .NET

2005-04-23 Thread Reynier Perez Mira
Hi list:

I have a problem with ASP .NET community in my Universty and I need to solve 
it. The thing is that they say me that ASP .NET is better than PHP, so I need 
information to response they about this theme. Can you put me some sites, 
statics, intrview to big personalities, articles to response ?

Regards

 

 

Reynier Pérez Mira

3ero. Ing. Informática

Entre más inteligente me siento, más me doy cuenta de lo ignorante que soy. 

 



Re: [PHP] PHP vs ASP .NET

2005-04-23 Thread Mark Charette
Reynier Perez Mira wrote:
Hi list:
I have a problem with ASP .NET community in my Universty and I need to solve it. The thing is that they say me that ASP .NET is better than PHP, so I need information to response they about this theme. Can you put me some sites, statics, intrview to big personalities, articles to response ?
Rather than get into an open ended discussion/argument, perhaps it would 
be best to ask the community why ASP.NET is better? Perhaps for the 
usage they envision is _is_ better, perhaps not.

I have found over the past 32 years that passionate 
discussions/arguments over what language is better than another to be 
less than constructive anyway. Better to just do your work and let it 
speak for itself.

Mark C.
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Re: [PHP] PHP vs ASP .NET

2005-04-23 Thread hanez
On Saturday 23 April 2005 19:33, Reynier Perez Mira wrote:
 Hi list:

 I have a problem with ASP .NET community in my Universty and I need to
 solve it. The thing is that they say me that ASP .NET is better than PHP,
 so I need information to response they about this theme. Can you put me
 some sites, statics, intrview to big personalities, articles to response ?

My meaning about this:

ASP .NET is not just a scripting language but more a plattform for Enterprise 
(web) applications.  It really has many more features then PHP and i would 
compare ASP .NET more with JAVA/J2EE.  I don't know much about ASP .NET since 
i am more familiar with PHP and maybe some little bit JAVA.  I think it is 
better to compare with a scripting language like Python or Ruby.  You could 
compare the old versions of ASP with PHP because this was nearly the same.  I 
never have coded with ASP since i very rarely touch a windows box but it 
looked like VisualBasic code.

Take a look here (Search Google: asp .net vs php5 ):

http://www.oracle.com/technology/pub/articles/hull_asp.html


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Re: [PHP] PHP vs ASP .NET

2005-04-23 Thread M Saleh EG
I don't recommand this article at Oracle at all!!
It's a very biased one and intends to misguide as a marketting gig. I'd like 
you to read healthy articles that truely compare. BTW
ASP.nethttp://ASP.netcan not be compared with PHP5 because they are
totaly different.
It's like comparing Apples and Oranges. PHP can be compared to ASP not 
ASP.net http://ASP.net because it's totaly a different thing. HTH. Been 
there, done that.

On 4/23/05, hanez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 On Saturday 23 April 2005 19:33, Reynier Perez Mira wrote:
  Hi list:
 
  I have a problem with ASP .NET community in my Universty and I need to
  solve it. The thing is that they say me that ASP .NET is better than 
 PHP,
  so I need information to response they about this theme. Can you put me
  some sites, statics, intrview to big personalities, articles to response 
 ?
 
 My meaning about this:
 
 ASP .NET is not just a scripting language but more a plattform for 
 Enterprise
 (web) applications. It really has many more features then PHP and i would
 compare ASP .NET more with JAVA/J2EE. I don't know much about ASP .NET 
 since
 i am more familiar with PHP and maybe some little bit JAVA. I think it is
 better to compare with a scripting language like Python or Ruby. You could
 compare the old versions of ASP with PHP because this was nearly the same. 
 I
 never have coded with ASP since i very rarely touch a windows box but it
 looked like VisualBasic code.
 
 Take a look here (Search Google: asp .net vs php5 ):
 
 http://www.oracle.com/technology/pub/articles/hull_asp.html
 
 Regards
 
 Johannes Findeisen
 
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Re: [PHP] PHP vs ASP .NET

2005-04-23 Thread hanez
On Saturday 23 April 2005 20:27, M Saleh EG wrote:
 On 4/23/05, hanez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  On Saturday 23 April 2005 19:33, Reynier Perez Mira wrote:
   Hi list:
  
   I have a problem with ASP .NET community in my Universty and I need to
   solve it. The thing is that they say me that ASP .NET is better than
  PHP,
 
   so I need information to response they about this theme. Can you put me
   some sites, statics, intrview to big personalities, articles to
   response
 
  My meaning about this:
 
  ASP .NET is not just a scripting language but more a plattform for
  Enterprise
  (web) applications. It really has many more features then PHP and i would
  compare ASP .NET more with JAVA/J2EE. I don't know much about ASP .NET
  since
  i am more familiar with PHP and maybe some little bit JAVA. I think it is
  better to compare with a scripting language like Python or Ruby. You
  could compare the old versions of ASP with PHP because this was nearly
  the same. I
  never have coded with ASP since i very rarely touch a windows box but it
  looked like VisualBasic code.
 
  Take a look here (Search Google: asp .net vs php5 ):
 
  http://www.oracle.com/technology/pub/articles/hull_asp.html
 
 I don't recommand this article at Oracle at all!!
 It's a very biased one and intends to misguide as a marketting gig. I'd
 like you to read healthy articles that truely compare. BTW
 ASP.nethttp://ASP.netcan not be compared with PHP5 because they are
 totaly different.
 It's like comparing Apples and Oranges. PHP can be compared to ASP not
 ASP.net http://ASP.net because it's totaly a different thing. HTH. Been
 there, done that.

Okay, please read my post again!

I would not compare PHP with ASP .NET. This is what i wrote. I found that link 
to Oracle within 5 seconds via Google and did not read the whole text but 
Reynier Perez Mira could understand the difference with it.

Please read carefully before reply and please don't top post!


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Re: [PHP] PHP vs ASP .NET

2005-04-23 Thread M Saleh EG
I did not say that you compared! Sorry if I put it that way. I said the 
article at Oracle does that.
In all the cases that article does not fairly illustrate anything. It's a 
merketing trick for novices!

On 4/23/05, hanez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 On Saturday 23 April 2005 20:27, M Saleh EG wrote:
  On 4/23/05, hanez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   On Saturday 23 April 2005 19:33, Reynier Perez Mira wrote:
Hi list:
   
I have a problem with ASP .NET community in my Universty and I need 
 to
solve it. The thing is that they say me that ASP .NET is better than
   PHP,
  
so I need information to response they about this theme. Can you put 
 me
some sites, statics, intrview to big personalities, articles to
response
  
   My meaning about this:
  
   ASP .NET is not just a scripting language but more a plattform for
   Enterprise
   (web) applications. It really has many more features then PHP and i 
 would
   compare ASP .NET more with JAVA/J2EE. I don't know much about ASP .NET
   since
   i am more familiar with PHP and maybe some little bit JAVA. I think it 
 is
   better to compare with a scripting language like Python or Ruby. You
   could compare the old versions of ASP with PHP because this was nearly
   the same. I
   never have coded with ASP since i very rarely touch a windows box but 
 it
   looked like VisualBasic code.
  
   Take a look here (Search Google: asp .net vs php5 ):
  
   http://www.oracle.com/technology/pub/articles/hull_asp.html
  
  I don't recommand this article at Oracle at all!!
  It's a very biased one and intends to misguide as a marketting gig. I'd
  like you to read healthy articles that truely compare. BTW
  ASP.net http://ASP.nethttp://ASP.netcan not be compared with PHP5 
 because they are
  totaly different.
  It's like comparing Apples and Oranges. PHP can be compared to ASP not
  ASP.net http://ASP.net http://ASP.net because it's totaly a 
 different thing. HTH. Been
  there, done that.
 
 Okay, please read my post again!
 
 I would not compare PHP with ASP .NET. This is what i wrote. I found that 
 link
 to Oracle within 5 seconds via Google and did not read the whole text but
 Reynier Perez Mira could understand the difference with it.
 
 Please read carefully before reply and please don't top post!
 
 
 Regards
 
 Johannes Findeisen
 
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Re: [PHP] PHP vs ASP .NET

2005-04-23 Thread Johannes Findeisen
On Saturday 23 April 2005 20:57, M Saleh EG wrote:
 On 4/23/05, hanez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  On Saturday 23 April 2005 20:27, M Saleh EG wrote:
   On 4/23/05, hanez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Saturday 23 April 2005 19:33, Reynier Perez Mira wrote:
 Hi list:

 I have a problem with ASP .NET community in my Universty and I need
 
  to
 
 solve it. The thing is that they say me that ASP .NET is better
 than
   
PHP,
   
 so I need information to response they about this theme. Can you
 put
 
  me
 
 some sites, statics, intrview to big personalities, articles to
 response
   
My meaning about this:
   
ASP .NET is not just a scripting language but more a plattform for
Enterprise
(web) applications. It really has many more features then PHP and i
 
  would
 
compare ASP .NET more with JAVA/J2EE. I don't know much about ASP
.NET since
i am more familiar with PHP and maybe some little bit JAVA. I think
it
 
  is
 
better to compare with a scripting language like Python or Ruby. You
could compare the old versions of ASP with PHP because this was
nearly the same. I
never have coded with ASP since i very rarely touch a windows box but
 
  it
 
looked like VisualBasic code.
   
Take a look here (Search Google: asp .net vs php5 ):
   
http://www.oracle.com/technology/pub/articles/hull_asp.html
  
   I don't recommand this article at Oracle at all!!
   It's a very biased one and intends to misguide as a marketting gig. I'd
   like you to read healthy articles that truely compare. BTW
   ASP.net http://ASP.nethttp://ASP.netcan not be compared with PHP5
 
  because they are
 
   totaly different.
   It's like comparing Apples and Oranges. PHP can be compared to ASP not
   ASP.net http://ASP.net http://ASP.net because it's totaly a
 
  different thing. HTH. Been
 
   there, done that.
 
  Okay, please read my post again!
 
  I would not compare PHP with ASP .NET. This is what i wrote. I found that
  link
  to Oracle within 5 seconds via Google and did not read the whole text but
  Reynier Perez Mira could understand the difference with it.
 I did not say that you compared! Sorry if I put it that way. I said the
 article at Oracle does that.
 In all the cases that article does not fairly illustrate anything. It's a
 merketing trick for novices!

Okay, but it defenitly says this:

snip from=http://www.oracle.com/technology/pub/articles/hull_asp.html
The latest incarnation of ASP, ASP.NET, is not completely backward-compatible 
with previous versions of ASP, as it is a complete rewrite of the software. 
Previous ASP technology actually has a lot more in common with PHP than with 
ASP.NET, which is a complete framework for building Web applications. One of 
the principal features of this model is the flexibility to choose your 
programming language. ASP.NET works with scripted languages such as VBScript, 
JScript, Perlscript, and Python, as well as compiled languages such as VB, 
C#, C, Cobol, Smalltalk, and Lisp. The new framework uses the common language 
runtime (CLR); your language source is compiled into Microsoft Intermediate 
Language code, which the CLR then executes.
/snip

This text says, that ASP .NET is a complete framework for building web 
applications.  All the other stuff maybe is some marketing strategy for 
selling Oracle software but i don't take care about that.

BTW, i think there is some more usefull information in this article (Anyway, i 
will not buy Oracle software).

Sorry for starting this flamewar. This was not my goal... ;-)

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Re: [PHP] PHP vs ASP .NET

2005-04-23 Thread Greg Donald
On 4/23/05, Reynier Perez Mira [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I have a problem with ASP .NET community in my Universty and I need to solve
 it. The thing is that they say me that ASP .NET is better than PHP, so I need
 information to response they about this theme. Can you put me some sites,
 statics, intrview to big personalities, articles to response ?

.NET is a framework, not a language.  Many other languages qualify as
.NET languages besides just C# and VB.net.  So if you don't like the
Microsoft ones you can try others:

http://php-sharp.sourceforge.net/
http://www.startvbdotnet.com/dotnet/languages.aspx


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