Re: [PHP] Proposal: New list etiquette/rule

2002-12-12 Thread Jason Wong 
On Thursday 12 December 2002 20:06, DL Neil wrote:
> Spam Arrest Sender VerificationYesterday we held an amusing discussion
> which highlighted the futility of using (badly implemented) technological
> 'solutions' to a social problem...
>
> Herewith I attach a response received pursuant to a list contribution. Does
> this 'gentleman' seriously expect every list contributor to provide him
> with a personal service requesting permission to be allowed to post to him?
> What happens if dozens of his colleagues join up? BTW I will, happily, for
> my hourly fee (minimum charge four hours)!
>
> Suggest that the list 'rules' be updated to point out that such
> requirements are unlikely to be received favorably, so if he wants to join
> the community he needs to do 'join' us (not vice-versa).
>
> NB I know that technically I've broken my/the list's rules by reproducing
> this in HTML, and have done so that those who can, are able to see the
> stupidity in its full glory/know which service NOT to use...

I haven't looked at the spam arrest site, but I'm sure they must provide a 
whitelisting feature where you can manually add people/lists from whom you 
definitely want to receive mail. In that case, as always, it's another case 
of user misconfiguration/ignorance.

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[PHP] Proposal: New list etiquette/rule

2002-12-12 Thread DL Neil 
Spam Arrest Sender VerificationYesterday we held an amusing discussion which 
highlighted the futility of using (badly implemented) technological 'solutions' to a 
social problem...

Herewith I attach a response received pursuant to a list contribution. Does this 
'gentleman' seriously expect every list contributor to provide him with a personal 
service requesting permission to be allowed to post to him? What happens if dozens of 
his colleagues join up? BTW I will, happily, for my hourly fee (minimum charge four 
hours)!

Suggest that the list 'rules' be updated to point out that such requirements are 
unlikely to be received favorably, so if he wants to join the community he needs to do 
'join' us (not vice-versa).

NB I know that technically I've broken my/the list's rules by reproducing this in 
HTML, and have done so that those who can, are able to see the stupidity in its full 
glory/know which service NOT to use...

Regards,
=dn


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  Sent: Thursday, December 12, 2002 11:51 AM
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