Re: [PHP] Re: Continuance of the struggle (trying to understand)
It will only work if your listing supports php, but you should just be able to put the whole sure up on your hosting, give the upload directory the correct permissions ( its most likely a more secure Linux hosting than insecure windows hosting) Thanks, Ash http://www.ashleysheridan.co.uk - Reply message - From: Col Day colind...@aol.com Date: Thu, Oct 7, 2010 08:33 Subject: [PHP] Re: Continuance of the struggle (trying to understand) To: php-general@lists.php.net Morning all, Apologies for the delay, I've just become a Dad for the first time so a little distracted! If I explain exactly what I am trying to do then it may become clear as to where I'm going wrong. Needless to say, new baby so want to show him off (Callum, 7lb4oz) so decided to buy a webname and pay for hosting, however money is a bit tight, so being adventurous (or stupid, not sure which yet) I set up apache on my laptop and started writing a website in Serif's WebPlus10. However I wanted to have an upload area on the site for friends and family to send their pictures of Callum (and the family and anything else they wanted) so there was a central store. However I tried to find some html to handle the upload of these files but wasn't able to work it out, google and various other bitsx of research on the net showed that I probably needed to run a script to do this and PHP seemed the simplest, so I downloaded PHP 5.3.3 and installed it. This is where it started getting tricky as I was using the PHP for dummies book from 2006. I typed that piece of code in (direct from the book) but added it as an html attachment into my site I was building. Uploaded the site to my localhost and had a look. I only got the HTML line from the script. This is where I started contacting you bunch of fine programmers! I have now learned that if I save the script as a .php file and navigate direct to it on localhost it works fine, but I think what I am trying to do is get it to work in an existing webpage so that I can then get my upload working. Any help you can offer from explanantions to whole bits of code will be greatly received! Many thanks! Steve Staples sstap...@mnsi.net wrote in message news:1286281586.4703.63.ca...@webdev01... Col: If i am reading this correctly, then i think you're looking at this all wrong. If you're working within some kind of page, stored outside of the http://localhost served by apache, like say the .php file is on the desktop... then yeah, you're not going to get the PHP information displayed. (tech people bare with me here...) PHP pages, are compiled when called... so you need apache to call php and translate the PHP code so that if there is any output, it will display that output. If you're trying to show a .php file from teh desktop, then apache isn't handeling this request, and therefor has no idea that there is php code that has to be compiled, and therefore it will just ignore it. I am sure that I am goign to get flamed for that, but i think that it kinda simplifies what apache does for php. NOW... you can run a php file from the command line, but you're not going to get the HTML results as you would had you ran if from the localhost where apache knows what to do with a .php file. So... long story short, if you want PHP to display the PHP stuff, then you will need to have it interpreted by apache (or IIS, or whatever your web server software is) to have it spit back to a web browser client. Hopefully this makes sense, it is early here, i am just getting into work :(, and it made sense while i was typing it... but my coffee intake has not had time to work it's wonderful magic with me yet, so my thoughts may be scattered. Steve On Tue, 2010-10-05 at 12:57 +0100, Col Day wrote: LOL! This is WITH xammp!! Gary php-gene...@garydjones.name wrote in message news:i8f26m$j4...@dough.gmane.org... Col Day wrote: Col Day colind...@aol.com wrote in message news:23.81.45586.2820b...@pb1.pair.com... html head titlePHP Test/title /head body pThis is an HTML line /p !-- close your tag, you evil man! :-) -- ?php echo pThis is a PHP line/p; phpinfo(); ? /body /html If I paste this into a webpage I only get the HTML line as before. What do you mean, webpage? foo.php, for example, or foo.html? If the latter then I am guessing your Apache will serve the page purely as html, and it will never be processed by php. If the former then check that Apache is configured to run php files through php before serving them (must admit, I'm not sure how to do that, it depends on your Apache and PHP). Or, really, just install xampp, it's by far the easiest way and will avoid all the problems associated with configuring two rather complex pieces of software. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Re: Continuance of the struggle (trying to understand)
Col: Congratulations on becoming a father!! As a father of 3 myself, I know the joys that infants bring :) As for your scripting issues, I would suggest that you save your files with the .php extension, and not the .html. The .php extension will tell the php compliler/parser/whatever and spit back the compiled php script. If you're looking to just have a photo gallery, there are many free/opensource gallery scripts out there that you can use. Mind you, there is no sense of accomplishment when you do it this way, but if you're unsure about security, and file injection/sql injection, then you may be better off using one of those, until you're further along in your book :) http://www.google.ca/#sclient=psyhl=enq=opesource+php +galleryaq=faqi=g-sx1g-o1aql=oq=gs_rfai=pbx=1fp=f85a0cf66583c3ac in the past, I set up coppermine for a friend of mine, and he said it works ok... but like I said, there are lots out there, and maybe consider using one of them for now, so you can spend more time with your new baby :) Steve. On Thu, 2010-10-07 at 09:00 +0100, a...@ashleysheridan.co.uk wrote: It will only work if your listing supports php, but you should just be able to put the whole sure up on your hosting, give the upload directory the correct permissions ( its most likely a more secure Linux hosting than insecure windows hosting) Thanks, Ash http://www.ashleysheridan.co.uk - Reply message - From: Col Day colind...@aol.com Date: Thu, Oct 7, 2010 08:33 Subject: [PHP] Re: Continuance of the struggle (trying to understand) To: php-general@lists.php.net Morning all, Apologies for the delay, I've just become a Dad for the first time so a little distracted! If I explain exactly what I am trying to do then it may become clear as to where I'm going wrong. Needless to say, new baby so want to show him off (Callum, 7lb4oz) so decided to buy a webname and pay for hosting, however money is a bit tight, so being adventurous (or stupid, not sure which yet) I set up apache on my laptop and started writing a website in Serif's WebPlus10. However I wanted to have an upload area on the site for friends and family to send their pictures of Callum (and the family and anything else they wanted) so there was a central store. However I tried to find some html to handle the upload of these files but wasn't able to work it out, google and various other bitsx of research on the net showed that I probably needed to run a script to do this and PHP seemed the simplest, so I downloaded PHP 5.3.3 and installed it. This is where it started getting tricky as I was using the PHP for dummies book from 2006. I typed that piece of code in (direct from the book) but added it as an html attachment into my site I was building. Uploaded the site to my localhost and had a look. I only got the HTML line from the script. This is where I started contacting you bunch of fine programmers! I have now learned that if I save the script as a .php file and navigate direct to it on localhost it works fine, but I think what I am trying to do is get it to work in an existing webpage so that I can then get my upload working. Any help you can offer from explanantions to whole bits of code will be greatly received! Many thanks! Steve Staples sstap...@mnsi.net wrote in message news:1286281586.4703.63.ca...@webdev01... Col: If i am reading this correctly, then i think you're looking at this all wrong. If you're working within some kind of page, stored outside of the http://localhost served by apache, like say the .php file is on the desktop... then yeah, you're not going to get the PHP information displayed. (tech people bare with me here...) PHP pages, are compiled when called... so you need apache to call php and translate the PHP code so that if there is any output, it will display that output. If you're trying to show a .php file from teh desktop, then apache isn't handeling this request, and therefor has no idea that there is php code that has to be compiled, and therefore it will just ignore it. I am sure that I am goign to get flamed for that, but i think that it kinda simplifies what apache does for php. NOW... you can run a php file from the command line, but you're not going to get the HTML results as you would had you ran if from the localhost where apache knows what to do with a .php file. So... long story short, if you want PHP to display the PHP stuff, then you will need to have it interpreted by apache (or IIS, or whatever your web server software is) to have it spit back to a web browser client. Hopefully this makes sense, it is early here, i am just getting into work :(, and it made sense while i was typing it... but my coffee intake has not had time to work it's wonderful magic with me yet, so my thoughts may be scattered. Steve On Tue, 2010-10-05 at 12:57 +0100, Col Day
[PHP] Re: Continuance of the struggle (trying to understand)
Col Day colind...@aol.com wrote in message news:23.81.45586.2820b...@pb1.pair.com... Hi all, After my escapades with the real basics and realizing my laptop wasn't logged on as Administrator, I now am trying to work out why this script works sometimes but not others. html head titlePHP Test/title /head body pThis is an HTML line ?php echo pThis is a PHP line/p; phpinfo(); ? /body /html If I save this as phptest.php and open IE pointing it to localhost/phptest.php it works fine. Get both lines of text followed by the pages of gumpf about php. However if I paste this into a That was weird! I was saying, If I paste this into a webpage I only get the HTML line as before. Anyone have any ideas? PHP is obviously working as is apache. Just don't understand why they don't show up in web pages. Cheers again all! -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Re: Continuance of the struggle (trying to understand)
Col, Can you let us know what exactly you see when you say http://localhost:/phptest.php ? Regards, Shreyas On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 4:20 PM, Col Day colind...@aol.com wrote: Col Day colind...@aol.com wrote in message news:23.81.45586.2820b...@pb1.pair.com... Hi all, After my escapades with the real basics and realizing my laptop wasn't logged on as Administrator, I now am trying to work out why this script works sometimes but not others. html head titlePHP Test/title /head body pThis is an HTML line ?php echo pThis is a PHP line/p; phpinfo(); ? /body /html If I save this as phptest.php and open IE pointing it to localhost/phptest.php it works fine. Get both lines of text followed by the pages of gumpf about php. However if I paste this into a That was weird! I was saying, If I paste this into a webpage I only get the HTML line as before. Anyone have any ideas? PHP is obviously working as is apache. Just don't understand why they don't show up in web pages. Cheers again all! -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php -- Regards, Shreyas Agasthya
Re: [PHP] Re: Continuance of the struggle (trying to understand)
Hi Shreyas, Ok, as far as I can tell the script should show This is an HTML line reflecting that I am seeing the HTML part of the script followed by This is a PHP line to show that PHP is installed and working fine. If I view the script directly in IE by going to http://localhost/phptest.php I get the output: This is an HTML line This is a PHP line followed by a large and detailed list of the PHP install which includes things like compiler language etc. If I paste the script into a web page then all that is displayed is This is an HTML line. Nothing else whatsoever. I am fairly confused. I've tried a couple of different web page creators (Webplus 10 and Web page maker) and get the same result. Sorry if I sound extremely naive but it's bugging me now and I want to understand. Cheers Shreyas Agasthya shreya...@gmail.com wrote in message news:aanlkti=4ke1stf8tan7+ecjo-ux5cj=t9-0qctcfk...@mail.gmail.com... Col, Can you let us know what exactly you see when you say http://localhost:/phptest.php ? Regards, Shreyas On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 4:20 PM, Col Day colind...@aol.com wrote: Col Day colind...@aol.com wrote in message news:23.81.45586.2820b...@pb1.pair.com... Hi all, After my escapades with the real basics and realizing my laptop wasn't logged on as Administrator, I now am trying to work out why this script works sometimes but not others. html head titlePHP Test/title /head body pThis is an HTML line ?php echo pThis is a PHP line/p; phpinfo(); ? /body /html If I save this as phptest.php and open IE pointing it to localhost/phptest.php it works fine. Get both lines of text followed by the pages of gumpf about php. However if I paste this into a That was weird! I was saying, If I paste this into a webpage I only get the HTML line as before. Anyone have any ideas? PHP is obviously working as is apache. Just don't understand why they don't show up in web pages. Cheers again all! -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php -- Regards, Shreyas Agasthya -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
[PHP] Re: Continuance of the struggle (trying to understand)
LOL! This is WITH xammp!! Gary php-gene...@garydjones.name wrote in message news:i8f26m$j4...@dough.gmane.org... Col Day wrote: Col Day colind...@aol.com wrote in message news:23.81.45586.2820b...@pb1.pair.com... html head titlePHP Test/title /head body pThis is an HTML line /p !-- close your tag, you evil man! :-) -- ?php echo pThis is a PHP line/p; phpinfo(); ? /body /html If I paste this into a webpage I only get the HTML line as before. What do you mean, webpage? foo.php, for example, or foo.html? If the latter then I am guessing your Apache will serve the page purely as html, and it will never be processed by php. If the former then check that Apache is configured to run php files through php before serving them (must admit, I'm not sure how to do that, it depends on your Apache and PHP). Or, really, just install xampp, it's by far the easiest way and will avoid all the problems associated with configuring two rather complex pieces of software. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Re: Continuance of the struggle (trying to understand)
Col: If i am reading this correctly, then i think you're looking at this all wrong. If you're working within some kind of page, stored outside of the http://localhost served by apache, like say the .php file is on the desktop... then yeah, you're not going to get the PHP information displayed. (tech people bare with me here...) PHP pages, are compiled when called... so you need apache to call php and translate the PHP code so that if there is any output, it will display that output. If you're trying to show a .php file from teh desktop, then apache isn't handeling this request, and therefor has no idea that there is php code that has to be compiled, and therefore it will just ignore it. I am sure that I am goign to get flamed for that, but i think that it kinda simplifies what apache does for php. NOW... you can run a php file from the command line, but you're not going to get the HTML results as you would had you ran if from the localhost where apache knows what to do with a .php file. So... long story short, if you want PHP to display the PHP stuff, then you will need to have it interpreted by apache (or IIS, or whatever your web server software is) to have it spit back to a web browser client. Hopefully this makes sense, it is early here, i am just getting into work :(, and it made sense while i was typing it... but my coffee intake has not had time to work it's wonderful magic with me yet, so my thoughts may be scattered. Steve On Tue, 2010-10-05 at 12:57 +0100, Col Day wrote: LOL! This is WITH xammp!! Gary php-gene...@garydjones.name wrote in message news:i8f26m$j4...@dough.gmane.org... Col Day wrote: Col Day colind...@aol.com wrote in message news:23.81.45586.2820b...@pb1.pair.com... html head titlePHP Test/title /head body pThis is an HTML line /p !-- close your tag, you evil man! :-) -- ?php echo pThis is a PHP line/p; phpinfo(); ? /body /html If I paste this into a webpage I only get the HTML line as before. What do you mean, webpage? foo.php, for example, or foo.html? If the latter then I am guessing your Apache will serve the page purely as html, and it will never be processed by php. If the former then check that Apache is configured to run php files through php before serving them (must admit, I'm not sure how to do that, it depends on your Apache and PHP). Or, really, just install xampp, it's by far the easiest way and will avoid all the problems associated with configuring two rather complex pieces of software. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Re: Continuance of the struggle (trying to understand)
If I paste the script into a web page What do you mean by paste the script into a web page? Can you tell us exactly what you are doing when you do that? Chris. On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 7:54 AM, Col Day colind...@aol.com wrote: Hi Shreyas, Ok, as far as I can tell the script should show This is an HTML line reflecting that I am seeing the HTML part of the script followed by This is a PHP line to show that PHP is installed and working fine. If I view the script directly in IE by going to http://localhost/phptest.php I get the output: This is an HTML line This is a PHP line followed by a large and detailed list of the PHP install which includes things like compiler language etc. If I paste the script into a web page then all that is displayed is This is an HTML line. Nothing else whatsoever. I am fairly confused. I've tried a couple of different web page creators (Webplus 10 and Web page maker) and get the same result. Sorry if I sound extremely naive but it's bugging me now and I want to understand. Cheers Shreyas Agasthya shreya...@gmail.com wrote in message news:aanlkti=4ke1stf8tan7+ecjo-ux5cj=t9-0qctcfk...@mail.gmail.com... Col, Can you let us know what exactly you see when you say http://localhost:/phptest.php ? Regards, Shreyas On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 4:20 PM, Col Day colind...@aol.com wrote: Col Day colind...@aol.com wrote in message news:23.81.45586.2820b...@pb1.pair.com... Hi all, After my escapades with the real basics and realizing my laptop wasn't logged on as Administrator, I now am trying to work out why this script works sometimes but not others. html head titlePHP Test/title /head body pThis is an HTML line ?php echo pThis is a PHP line/p; phpinfo(); ? /body /html If I save this as phptest.php and open IE pointing it to localhost/phptest.php it works fine. Get both lines of text followed by the pages of gumpf about php. However if I paste this into a That was weird! I was saying, If I paste this into a webpage I only get the HTML line as before. Anyone have any ideas? PHP is obviously working as is apache. Just don't understand why they don't show up in web pages. Cheers again all! -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php -- Regards, Shreyas Agasthya -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
RE: [PHP] Re: Continuance of the struggle (trying to understand)
-Original Message- From: Col Day [mailto:colind...@aol.com] Sent: 05 October 2010 12:55 To: php-general@lists.php.net Subject: Re: [PHP] Re: Continuance of the struggle (trying to understand) Hi Shreyas, Ok, as far as I can tell the script should show This is an HTML line reflecting that I am seeing the HTML part of the script followed by This is a PHP line to show that PHP is installed and working fine. If I view the script directly in IE by going to http://localhost/phptest.php I get the output: This is an HTML line This is a PHP line followed by a large and detailed list of the PHP install which includes things like compiler language etc. If I paste the script into a web page then all that is displayed is What on earth does this mean? http://localhost/phptest.php *is* a web page -- especially as you have structured it as PHP within HTML -- so why would you want to paste the code anywhere else? I think your concepts are a little skew-whiff, and you need to explain what it is you think you're trying to do in more detail so that we can spot where it is that your understanding is wrong. Cheers! Mike -- Mike Ford, Electronic Information Developer, Libraries and Learning Innovation, Leeds Metropolitan University, C507 City Campus, Woodhouse Lane, LEEDS, LS1 3HE, United Kingdom Email: m.f...@leedsmet.ac.uk Tel: +44 113 812 4730 To view the terms under which this email is distributed, please go to http://disclaimer.leedsmet.ac.uk/email.htm -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Re: Continuance of the struggle (trying to understand)
At 12:54 PM +0100 10/5/10, Col Day wrote: Hi Shreyas, Ok, as far as I can tell the script should show This is an HTML line reflecting that I am seeing the HTML part of the script followed by This is a PHP line to show that PHP is installed and working fine. Col: Do this: 1. Create a file and entitle it index.php (without quotes) 2. Enter ?php phpinfo();? (without quotes) 3. Save the file. 4. Upload the file to your host. 5. Open a browser and enter the url (i.e., http://yourdomain.com/index.php) What do you see? Cheers, tedd -- --- http://sperling.com/ -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Re: Continuance of the struggle (trying to understand)
At 1:56 PM -0400 10/5/10, tedd wrote: At 12:54 PM +0100 10/5/10, Col Day wrote: Hi Shreyas, Ok, as far as I can tell the script should show This is an HTML line reflecting that I am seeing the HTML part of the script followed by This is a PHP line to show that PHP is installed and working fine. Col: Do this: 1. Create a file and entitle it index.php (without quotes) 2. Enter ?php phpinfo();? (without quotes) 3. Save the file. 4. Upload the file to your host. 5. Open a browser and enter the url (i.e., http://yourdomain.com/index.php) What do you see? Cheers, tedd Col: You don't have to tell what you see, but rather do you see anything? Cheers, tedd -- --- http://sperling.com/ -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Re: Continuance of the struggle (trying to understand)
On Tue, 2010-10-05 at 14:32 -0400, tedd wrote: At 1:56 PM -0400 10/5/10, tedd wrote: At 12:54 PM +0100 10/5/10, Col Day wrote: Hi Shreyas, Ok, as far as I can tell the script should show This is an HTML line reflecting that I am seeing the HTML part of the script followed by This is a PHP line to show that PHP is installed and working fine. Col: Do this: 1. Create a file and entitle it index.php (without quotes) 2. Enter ?php phpinfo();? (without quotes) 3. Save the file. 4. Upload the file to your host. 5. Open a browser and enter the url (i.e., http://yourdomain.com/index.php) What do you see? Cheers, tedd Col: You don't have to tell what you see, but rather do you see anything? Cheers, tedd -- --- http://sperling.com/ Tedd: He is working off his localhost, running on vista... so what it seems (to me at least) is that he is getting the php to work when he uses the localhost, but when he tries to open a php file from say his desktop, he doesn't see the php stuff... which is exactly as designed since running form your desktop, php does not execute the code... i am guessing that he just needs to use his localhost directory. Steve. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
