RE: [PHP] Re: Cry for help
> For example:
>
> while (!feof ($fp))
>
> What does the ! mean or do?
! means not.
> What does feof mean? is it one command? or is f e o f all different?
feof() is a function that checks if a file has reached the end or not. (eof
= end of file)
while (!feof ($fp)) in whole means something like this
As long as the filepointer ($fp) is not at the end, do whatever that's
between { and } over and over again...
> Why are there 2 ) at the end?
Just because :-)
The first ) belongs to feof and the second ) belongs to while.
>
> $buffer = fgets($fp, 4096);
>
> Why does it need a buffer? What is a buffer?
$buffer is just a variable that stores the result of fgets(). It could be
any name really...
>
> $arr = explode("|", $buffer);
>
> It's questions like that. I can understand more or less what
> the meanings
> are of the concepts. Another example of this is, I tested
> your code, and it
> returned the string
>
> SangiovanneseFlorentia Viola
>
> on one line only. If I want it to look like this:?
>
> Sangiovannese
> Florentia Viola
>
> Now i now the \n means to go to the next line, but where
> would I put that?
You modify this line
echo $arr[4];
to this
echo $arr[4] . "\n"; // The . is a string concatenation operator. It simply
joins the two strings.
Now this would give you the same result in your browser, but if you view the
source in the browser you will see that the lines are separated. To do a
line break in the browser you have to insert the correct html ()
instead.
> You see my dilemmas no? I wish I could find a list of syntax
> and functions
> like a reference guide. That would be a start
www.php.net/manual/en/ is a very good start.
>
> Tack again
> -Tree
Varsågod!
Joakim
>
> - Original Message -
> From: Joakim Andersson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Newsgroups: php.general
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2002 4:54 PM
> Subject: RE: [PHP] Re: Cry for help
>
>
> > > |Serie C2 Round 2|09.09.02|20.45|Sangiovannese|Florentia Viola
> > > |Serie C2 Round 2|09.09.02|20.45|Gualdo|Florentia Viola
> > >
> > > So for example, lets say I wanted to make another html form
> > > that has a form
> > > field for List team by: and and select either "home" or
> "away" ... by
> > > selecting "home", the browser would print out the following:
> > >
> > > Sangiovannese
> > > Gualdo
> > >
> > > so now I need to figure out how to get PHP to do the following:
> > >
> > > #1 look at each line in the text file and treat it individually
> > > #2 select the data after the 4th | from each line
> > > #3 print it back to the browser
> >
> > $fd = fopen ("/tmp/inputfile.txt", "r"); // Opens file for reading
> > while (!feof ($fd)) // Start of loop.
> > {
> > $buffer = fgets($fd, 4096); // Reads one line of
> maximum 4096 bytes
> > $arr = explode("|", $buffer); // Divides each row into separate
> elements
> > in an array.
> > echo $arr[4]; // Prints the 5th element of each row.
> > // The first element ($arr[0]) is actually "" (an empty
> string) since each
> > line starts with |.
> > }
> > fclose ($fd);
> >
> > Hopefully this will get you in the right direction.
> > Regards
> > Joakim Andersson
>
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RE: [PHP] Re: Cry for help
> |Serie C2 Round 2|09.09.02|20.45|Sangiovannese|Florentia Viola
> |Serie C2 Round 2|09.09.02|20.45|Gualdo|Florentia Viola
>
> So for example, lets say I wanted to make another html form
> that has a form
> field for List team by: and and select either "home" or "away" ... by
> selecting "home", the browser would print out the following:
>
> Sangiovannese
> Gualdo
>
> so now I need to figure out how to get PHP to do the following:
>
> #1 look at each line in the text file and treat it individually
> #2 select the data after the 4th | from each line
> #3 print it back to the browser
$fd = fopen ("/tmp/inputfile.txt", "r"); // Opens file for reading
while (!feof ($fd)) // Start of loop.
{
$buffer = fgets($fd, 4096); // Reads one line of maximum 4096 bytes
$arr = explode("|", $buffer); // Divides each row into separate elements
in an array.
echo $arr[4]; // Prints the 5th element of each row.
// The first element ($arr[0]) is actually "" (an empty string) since each
line starts with |.
}
fclose ($fd);
Hopefully this will get you in the right direction.
Regards
Joakim Andersson
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RE: [PHP] Re: Cry for help
Heh good so you're not a complete n00b then :P Luckily I had a fairly decent grounding in html and css as well when I got going - I'm just putting the finishing touches on my first serious project atm using OO style php which made the learning curve about 10 times steeper as I had no previous experience with an OO language and the OO tuts as you will find are pretty thin on the ground and of varying quality - thinking of writing a few myself when I get a breather :-) GL and happy reading :-) Cheers Will > -Original Message- > From: Chad Winger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: 12 September 2002 04:00 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [PHP] Re: Cry for help > > > Html is something i do in my sleep :P thankfully I've been > good enough with it to make a decent living with it. What you > mention is quite logical, as i would find myself correcting > the ppl coding the databases and/or scripts by saying, stuff > like "you realize that when the info is returned like that > you are going to need four colums in the html, not 3..." and > they'd be like, geez..your right...and then they'd have to go > back and code again... > > So i am hoping that the html part that i know helps me gets > me thru the scripting phase a little easier, although the > languages are apples and oranges > > iom looking thru the tuts now :P > > cheers > > -Tree -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Re: Cry for help
Html is something i do in my sleep :P thankfully I've been good enough with it to make a decent living with it. What you mention is quite logical, as i would find myself correcting the ppl coding the databases and/or scripts by saying, stuff like "you realize that when the info is returned like that you are going to need four colums in the html, not 3..." and they'd be like, geez..your right...and then they'd have to go back and code again... So i am hoping that the html part that i know helps me gets me thru the scripting phase a little easier, although the languages are apples and oranges iom looking thru the tuts now :P cheers -Tree Will Steffen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message 000c01c25a63$e616a0e0$8000a8c0@william">news:000c01c25a63$e616a0e0$8000a8c0@william... > Heh - I know how you feel. > > I'm an ex network tecchie fighting my way through a career change to web > developer - spent some time messing with various scripting tools and so > forth, but never really had any formal coding experience until I hit php > - if you want some advice on learning php mine is spend the next few > weeks/months just soaking up every tutorial you can lay your hands on - > the best libraries are on phpbuilder, devshed and zend imho - altho > webmonkey also has a couple of really 'beginner' ones (hello world > country) you might want to start out with. > > Also one thing no-one ever really tells you about this is that one of > the most important things to learn if you plan on building sites with > php is not php - its html. I know this is a bit duh!, but seriously - > php is about logical structures - and slapping together a few variables > - it aint that hard once you get in the groove, but if you don't know > your html well enough to handcode it and to deconstruct a fat mess of > tags in your head and visualize what its going to end up looking like on > screen - you're going to have a hard time coding scripts to generate the > stuff. > > > 0.02 - actual mileage may vary - insert coin to generate more bs > > Cheers > Will > > > -Original Message----- > > From: Chad Winger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: 12 September 2002 03:34 PM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: Re: [PHP] Re: Cry for help > > > > > > I have no idea what that means, sorry :) > > > > My point for wanting to do this isnt because I really want to > > make a list of the home teams or whatnot. But obviously, at > > some point, I am going to have to learn how to split > > different bits of information, how organize them in certain > > ways, in certain orders etc. So if i can figure out how to > > get PHP to select the certain bits of info, and then organize > > them, say, alphabetically, that will teach me how to write > > some syntax, to use a few different functions and to begin > > how to set variables. > > > > in 85 when i had the old Apple IIe I was able to do stuff > > like this with the if A$=whatever then goto ... type stuff > > and it was easy back then. Now i realize PHP is not BASIC, > > nor am I a little kid anymore, but the basic idea of what i'd > > like to learn to do is there. So if i can just get used to > > working with it, then it will come > > > > -Tree > > > > Adam Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message > > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > te.ms.us... > > > You can use PHP and file() to do with, along with the str > > functions, > > > but if I were you and you already know what the filename of > > the file > > > is you are working on (or can submit it via a form) I would use the > > > unix command cut to do the operations on the file. Use > > another exec() > > > or system() and have it run cut -d | -f 4 yourfile.txt and > > then return > > > you the output. > > > > > > Adam > > > > > > On Thu, 12 Sep 2002, Chad Winger wrote: > > > > > > > Thanks for the reply :P > > > > > > > > I found it actually. Now I have the apache and php > > running, and am > > > > able > > to > > > > run my aforementioned test script locally. I am still looking > > > > through > > the > > > > manual now for the syntaxes and such. I am also looking > > on the web > > > > for > > some > > > > simple prewritten scripts to run and then try to dissect and > > deconstruct. > > > > > > > > With my little test "script" I've written, there are a few things > > > > I'd > > like > &
RE: [PHP] Re: Cry for help
Heh - I know how you feel. I'm an ex network tecchie fighting my way through a career change to web developer - spent some time messing with various scripting tools and so forth, but never really had any formal coding experience until I hit php - if you want some advice on learning php mine is spend the next few weeks/months just soaking up every tutorial you can lay your hands on - the best libraries are on phpbuilder, devshed and zend imho - altho webmonkey also has a couple of really 'beginner' ones (hello world country) you might want to start out with. Also one thing no-one ever really tells you about this is that one of the most important things to learn if you plan on building sites with php is not php - its html. I know this is a bit duh!, but seriously - php is about logical structures - and slapping together a few variables - it aint that hard once you get in the groove, but if you don't know your html well enough to handcode it and to deconstruct a fat mess of tags in your head and visualize what its going to end up looking like on screen - you're going to have a hard time coding scripts to generate the stuff. 0.02 - actual mileage may vary - insert coin to generate more bs Cheers Will > -Original Message- > From: Chad Winger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: 12 September 2002 03:34 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [PHP] Re: Cry for help > > > I have no idea what that means, sorry :) > > My point for wanting to do this isnt because I really want to > make a list of the home teams or whatnot. But obviously, at > some point, I am going to have to learn how to split > different bits of information, how organize them in certain > ways, in certain orders etc. So if i can figure out how to > get PHP to select the certain bits of info, and then organize > them, say, alphabetically, that will teach me how to write > some syntax, to use a few different functions and to begin > how to set variables. > > in 85 when i had the old Apple IIe I was able to do stuff > like this with the if A$=whatever then goto ... type stuff > and it was easy back then. Now i realize PHP is not BASIC, > nor am I a little kid anymore, but the basic idea of what i'd > like to learn to do is there. So if i can just get used to > working with it, then it will come > > -Tree > > Adam Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > te.ms.us... > > You can use PHP and file() to do with, along with the str > functions, > > but if I were you and you already know what the filename of > the file > > is you are working on (or can submit it via a form) I would use the > > unix command cut to do the operations on the file. Use > another exec() > > or system() and have it run cut -d | -f 4 yourfile.txt and > then return > > you the output. > > > > Adam > > > > On Thu, 12 Sep 2002, Chad Winger wrote: > > > > > Thanks for the reply :P > > > > > > I found it actually. Now I have the apache and php > running, and am > > > able > to > > > run my aforementioned test script locally. I am still looking > > > through > the > > > manual now for the syntaxes and such. I am also looking > on the web > > > for > some > > > simple prewritten scripts to run and then try to dissect and > deconstruct. > > > > > > With my little test "script" I've written, there are a few things > > > I'd > like > > > to be able to try to do with it that I think would help > my learning > process > > > go on more smoothly, but i cant seem to figure out, what > functions > > > to > even > > > begin to try to use. > > > > > > I'll give an example. > > > > > > This is the result of my little "test" script as printed > into a txt > file. > > > > > > |Serie C2 Round 2|09.09.02|20.45|Sangiovannese|Florentia Viola > > > > > > So if i fill out the form again, and resubmit, i might > get something > like > > > this: > > > > > > |Serie C2 Round 2|09.09.02|20.45|Sangiovannese|Florentia > Viola Serie > > > |C2 Round 2|09.09.02|20.45|Gualdo|Florentia Viola > > > > > > So for example, lets say I wanted to make another html > form that has > > > a > form > > > field for List team by: and and select either "home" or > "away" ... > > > by selecting "home", the browser would print out the following: > > > > > > Sangiovannese > > > Gualdo > > >
Re: [PHP] Re: Cry for help
I have no idea what that means, sorry :) My point for wanting to do this isnt because I really want to make a list of the home teams or whatnot. But obviously, at some point, I am going to have to learn how to split different bits of information, how organize them in certain ways, in certain orders etc. So if i can figure out how to get PHP to select the certain bits of info, and then organize them, say, alphabetically, that will teach me how to write some syntax, to use a few different functions and to begin how to set variables. in 85 when i had the old Apple IIe I was able to do stuff like this with the if A$=whatever then goto ... type stuff and it was easy back then. Now i realize PHP is not BASIC, nor am I a little kid anymore, but the basic idea of what i'd like to learn to do is there. So if i can just get used to working with it, then it will come -Tree Adam Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > You can use PHP and file() to do with, along with the str functions, but > if I were you and you already know what the filename of the file is you > are working on (or can submit it via a form) I would use the unix command > cut to do the operations on the file. Use another exec() or system() and > have it run cut -d | -f 4 yourfile.txt and then return you the output. > > Adam > > On Thu, 12 Sep 2002, Chad Winger wrote: > > > Thanks for the reply :P > > > > I found it actually. Now I have the apache and php running, and am able to > > run my aforementioned test script locally. I am still looking through the > > manual now for the syntaxes and such. I am also looking on the web for some > > simple prewritten scripts to run and then try to dissect and deconstruct. > > > > With my little test "script" I've written, there are a few things I'd like > > to be able to try to do with it that I think would help my learning process > > go on more smoothly, but i cant seem to figure out, what functions to even > > begin to try to use. > > > > I'll give an example. > > > > This is the result of my little "test" script as printed into a txt file. > > > > |Serie C2 Round 2|09.09.02|20.45|Sangiovannese|Florentia Viola > > > > So if i fill out the form again, and resubmit, i might get something like > > this: > > > > |Serie C2 Round 2|09.09.02|20.45|Sangiovannese|Florentia Viola > > |Serie C2 Round 2|09.09.02|20.45|Gualdo|Florentia Viola > > > > So for example, lets say I wanted to make another html form that has a form > > field for List team by: and and select either "home" or "away" ... by > > selecting "home", the browser would print out the following: > > > > Sangiovannese > > Gualdo > > > > so now I need to figure out how to get PHP to do the following: > > > > #1 look at each line in the text file and treat it individually > > #2 select the data after the 4th | from each line > > #3 print it back to the browser > > > > It's simple things like this that will get me going. I know for guys like > > you, it would take about 3 minutes to type that up but to me its a little > > tough trying to figure out how and where to use what. This manual isnt the > > most well put together in my opinion, its tough to locate things. So if > > someone or something would say to me"well for that operation, you need to > > create function_whatever, then run a so_and_so then I could go to the > > manual, and then learn how to write it. So this is my problem right now, > > basically not knowing WHAT to learn first. > > > > Thoughts? > > > > Thanks again > > > > -Tree > > - Original Message - > > From: Jay Blanchard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Newsgroups: php.general > > To: 'Chad Winger' <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2002 3:01 PM > > Subject: RE: [PHP] Re: Cry for help > > > > > > > [snip] > > > As far as Apache is concerned, I looked at the website, yet couldnt find > > the > > > exact server software, so if you could provide me with a direct link I'd > > > appreciate it. It would be to my benefit however, if I could not only > > serve > > > myself html pages as http:// but also as file:// as internet costs here > > are > > > ridiculously high (no unilimited $24.99 2/7 packages here yet) > > > [/snip] > > > > > > When you install apache locally (on your own system) you will be serving > > > pages as http:// locally
Re: [PHP] Re: Cry for help
You can use PHP and file() to do with, along with the str functions, but if I were you and you already know what the filename of the file is you are working on (or can submit it via a form) I would use the unix command cut to do the operations on the file. Use another exec() or system() and have it run cut -d | -f 4 yourfile.txt and then return you the output. Adam On Thu, 12 Sep 2002, Chad Winger wrote: > Thanks for the reply :P > > I found it actually. Now I have the apache and php running, and am able to > run my aforementioned test script locally. I am still looking through the > manual now for the syntaxes and such. I am also looking on the web for some > simple prewritten scripts to run and then try to dissect and deconstruct. > > With my little test "script" I've written, there are a few things I'd like > to be able to try to do with it that I think would help my learning process > go on more smoothly, but i cant seem to figure out, what functions to even > begin to try to use. > > I'll give an example. > > This is the result of my little "test" script as printed into a txt file. > > |Serie C2 Round 2|09.09.02|20.45|Sangiovannese|Florentia Viola > > So if i fill out the form again, and resubmit, i might get something like > this: > > |Serie C2 Round 2|09.09.02|20.45|Sangiovannese|Florentia Viola > |Serie C2 Round 2|09.09.02|20.45|Gualdo|Florentia Viola > > So for example, lets say I wanted to make another html form that has a form > field for List team by: and and select either "home" or "away" ... by > selecting "home", the browser would print out the following: > > Sangiovannese > Gualdo > > so now I need to figure out how to get PHP to do the following: > > #1 look at each line in the text file and treat it individually > #2 select the data after the 4th | from each line > #3 print it back to the browser > > It's simple things like this that will get me going. I know for guys like > you, it would take about 3 minutes to type that up but to me its a little > tough trying to figure out how and where to use what. This manual isnt the > most well put together in my opinion, its tough to locate things. So if > someone or something would say to me"well for that operation, you need to > create function_whatever, then run a so_and_so then I could go to the > manual, and then learn how to write it. So this is my problem right now, > basically not knowing WHAT to learn first. > > Thoughts? > > Thanks again > > -Tree > ----- Original Message - > From: Jay Blanchard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Newsgroups: php.general > To: 'Chad Winger' <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2002 3:01 PM > Subject: RE: [PHP] Re: Cry for help > > > > [snip] > > As far as Apache is concerned, I looked at the website, yet couldnt find > the > > exact server software, so if you could provide me with a direct link I'd > > appreciate it. It would be to my benefit however, if I could not only > serve > > myself html pages as http:// but also as file:// as internet costs here > are > > ridiculously high (no unilimited $24.99 2/7 packages here yet) > > [/snip] > > > > When you install apache locally (on your own system) you will be serving > > pages as http:// locally. Should help you to cut down on those unreal > > internet costs. > > > > What OS are you running now? Give us that and we can point you to a link. > > > > HTH! Peace ... > > > > Jay > > > > > Jay Blanchard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message > 001901c25a5c$797161c0$8102a8c0@000347D72515">news:001901c25a5c$797161c0$8102a8c0@000347D72515... > > [snip] > > As far as Apache is concerned, I looked at the website, yet couldnt find > the > > exact server software, so if you could provide me with a direct link I'd > > appreciate it. It would be to my benefit however, if I could not only > serve > > myself html pages as http:// but also as file:// as internet costs here > are > > ridiculously high (no unilimited $24.99 2/7 packages here yet) > > [/snip] > > > > When you install apache locally (on your own system) you will be serving > > pages as http:// locally. Should help you to cut down on those unreal > > internet costs. > > > > What OS are you running now? Give us that and we can point you to a link. > > > > HTH! Peace ... > > > > Jay > > > > > > > > -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Re: Cry for help
Thanks for the reply :P I found it actually. Now I have the apache and php running, and am able to run my aforementioned test script locally. I am still looking through the manual now for the syntaxes and such. I am also looking on the web for some simple prewritten scripts to run and then try to dissect and deconstruct. With my little test "script" I've written, there are a few things I'd like to be able to try to do with it that I think would help my learning process go on more smoothly, but i cant seem to figure out, what functions to even begin to try to use. I'll give an example. This is the result of my little "test" script as printed into a txt file. |Serie C2 Round 2|09.09.02|20.45|Sangiovannese|Florentia Viola So if i fill out the form again, and resubmit, i might get something like this: |Serie C2 Round 2|09.09.02|20.45|Sangiovannese|Florentia Viola |Serie C2 Round 2|09.09.02|20.45|Gualdo|Florentia Viola So for example, lets say I wanted to make another html form that has a form field for List team by: and and select either "home" or "away" ... by selecting "home", the browser would print out the following: Sangiovannese Gualdo so now I need to figure out how to get PHP to do the following: #1 look at each line in the text file and treat it individually #2 select the data after the 4th | from each line #3 print it back to the browser It's simple things like this that will get me going. I know for guys like you, it would take about 3 minutes to type that up but to me its a little tough trying to figure out how and where to use what. This manual isnt the most well put together in my opinion, its tough to locate things. So if someone or something would say to me"well for that operation, you need to create function_whatever, then run a so_and_so then I could go to the manual, and then learn how to write it. So this is my problem right now, basically not knowing WHAT to learn first. Thoughts? Thanks again -Tree - Original Message - From: Jay Blanchard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Newsgroups: php.general To: 'Chad Winger' <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2002 3:01 PM Subject: RE: [PHP] Re: Cry for help > [snip] > As far as Apache is concerned, I looked at the website, yet couldnt find the > exact server software, so if you could provide me with a direct link I'd > appreciate it. It would be to my benefit however, if I could not only serve > myself html pages as http:// but also as file:// as internet costs here are > ridiculously high (no unilimited $24.99 2/7 packages here yet) > [/snip] > > When you install apache locally (on your own system) you will be serving > pages as http:// locally. Should help you to cut down on those unreal > internet costs. > > What OS are you running now? Give us that and we can point you to a link. > > HTH! Peace ... > > Jay > > Jay Blanchard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message 001901c25a5c$797161c0$8102a8c0@000347D72515">news:001901c25a5c$797161c0$8102a8c0@000347D72515... > [snip] > As far as Apache is concerned, I looked at the website, yet couldnt find the > exact server software, so if you could provide me with a direct link I'd > appreciate it. It would be to my benefit however, if I could not only serve > myself html pages as http:// but also as file:// as internet costs here are > ridiculously high (no unilimited $24.99 2/7 packages here yet) > [/snip] > > When you install apache locally (on your own system) you will be serving > pages as http:// locally. Should help you to cut down on those unreal > internet costs. > > What OS are you running now? Give us that and we can point you to a link. > > HTH! Peace ... > > Jay > > -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
RE: [PHP] Re: Cry for help
[snip] As far as Apache is concerned, I looked at the website, yet couldnt find the exact server software, so if you could provide me with a direct link I'd appreciate it. It would be to my benefit however, if I could not only serve myself html pages as http:// but also as file:// as internet costs here are ridiculously high (no unilimited $24.99 2/7 packages here yet) [/snip] When you install apache locally (on your own system) you will be serving pages as http:// locally. Should help you to cut down on those unreal internet costs. What OS are you running now? Give us that and we can point you to a link. HTH! Peace ... Jay -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
[PHP] Re: Cry for help
Justin, Thanks for the reply. Funny seeing the word "dude" again. Havent heard that in quite a while, since moving over here to Italy. :) I hope I didnt come across as thinking I can just learn this in a week or two. I'm bright, but I'm not a genius. I know, and realize that it is a long a frustrating process. What I don't have is the real opportunity here to learn this like I could back in the states. There isn't a lot of info here on the topic in English, no classes to take, etc. I can't just walk into the local bookstore and buy a PHP book. While I am fluent in Italian, it would be that much easier if I can get my start in English obviously. As far as Apache is concerned, I looked at the website, yet couldnt find the exact server software, so if you could provide me with a direct link I'd appreciate it. It would be to my benefit however, if I could not only serve myself html pages as http:// but also as file:// as internet costs here are ridiculously high (no unilimited $24.99 2/7 packages here yet) I have read many docs and downloaded many scripts to try to familiarize myself with the language, and while I grasp many of the concepts, I still have lingering questions that I havent been able to resolve. So I have been trying to just have some of my fellow netizens to just point me to the right door in the HUGE hallway of doors that will get me into the proper room in which to learn. So thanks again -Tree Chad Winger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > I need to learn PHP and databases. If I had those skills, I would be so much > more succesful with my web designs. What I usually do, is make the html > templates, and then hire someone, usually expensively, to do the PHP and > MySQL bankend. > > Unfortunately, my programming skill is ZERO. Ok, maybe not zero, I do have a > little bit of PERL experience, but it mainly comes in the form of > downloading prewritten scripts, and lots of trial and error in editing them > using common sense and drawing on my experience of BASIC which I learned > when I was 6 years old! > > I have browsed hours on the net looking for help in this sort of thing. I > have downloaded programs, I have read hours of documents and "manuals", and > still, I am no further along than where I started. Programming and databases > are more of a mystery to me than women are. I'm absolutely CLUELESS. > > So basically, I need to learn this stuff as soon as humanly possible, but I > have NO IDEA where to start. Let me tell you first what I have done thusfar. > > First thing I did was download something called mySQL Max version 3.23.49 > directly from the website of mysql. I was under the impression that this > program would be something along the lines of MS Access in the standpoint of > user interface, and it would allow you to create tables etc. (I do know how > to create some rudimentary tables in MS Access). So after I installed this > program, I clicked on the icon to start it, and to my surprise, the only > thing that happened was the an MS-Dos box popped up for about 2/10ths of a > second and then disappeared. So to me it was a waste of 2 hours of > downloading. > > After a bit more of prodding I saw that there was some configuring to do. > For the life of me, I have no idea where to look, and even if I did, I > wouldnt have any idea what I need to configure anyways. Basically I want to > have this installed so that during my learning process of PHP, I can test > and run things on my local machine, and not have to connect to the internet, > upload files etc. > > > Secondly, I downloaded something similar, called Easy PHP. The website said > it would install this and that and then something else that would allow you > to run PHP scripts on your local machine as well as being an editor to help > you write scripts. So I downloaded this as well. So 27 MB and 3 hours later > I have yet another useless program with no interfaces nothing. Just > something that runs in the background. > > So now I talked with my roommate and explained these issues to him. He > pointed me to a software called CodeCharge. So I downloaded that and spent > hours looking through the "templates" and what not, and although I can see > this is a step in the right direction, it still leaves me with more > questions than answers. It wants me to specify DNS or ODBC or ASPI etc etc > and I have no clue what that is, what it means or what is does. > > Furthermore I see no way to use existing html files that I have created as > templates. Just existing ugly templates that come with the software. I'm > sure there is a way to do that, but I haven't figured it out. > > So what are my questions? Basically want to do is create sets of HTML > templates for various sections of sites. Then using the templates, code the > PHP to pull the correct information from a database, manipulate it, and then > return it together with templates. For example. On this a site that I am now > worki
[PHP] Re: Cry for help
I started also from a book Begining PHP 4 by wrox. I had a good understanding of programming languages before I started as I had experience of Delphi and some Java. oh and BASIC which I also learned what I was about 6! on a spectrum by any chance? If you have a grasp of programming languages then PHP is dead easy to pick up. I only started learning PHP about 9 months ago and I have designed a website that is pulling 3 million hits a month (http://sportnetwork.net) and I got a Job as a PHP programmer. I would suggest looking for some basic programming books to get your head around how programming languages work.if statments, for loops, while loops, case statments etc these are used in most if not all programming languages. And if you are brave you can look at object orrientated!! I have just become brave enough! On the install front. I got one of these multi purpose install things that install apache,php, mysql and phpmyadmin at once which got me started but after a we while i uninstalled it all and did each thing individually. I just wanted to know where every thing went! Anyhooo good luck and have fun! John Wards SportNetwork.net - Original Message - From: "lallous" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2002 11:22 AM Subject: [PHP] Re: Cry for help > Hello Chad, > > I started PHP from a book. > I believe a book is a good way to start as it organized and well written to > make sure you're progressing chapter by chapter. > After that, I read articles and tutorials as I needed to expand my skills. > > just my 2cents, > Elias > > > "Chad Winger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message > [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > > I need to learn PHP and databases. If I had those skills, I would be so > much > > more succesful with my web designs. What I usually do, is make the html > > templates, and then hire someone, usually expensively, to do the PHP and > > MySQL bankend. > > > > Unfortunately, my programming skill is ZERO. Ok, maybe not zero, I do have > a > > little bit of PERL experience, but it mainly comes in the form of > > downloading prewritten scripts, and lots of trial and error in editing > them > > using common sense and drawing on my experience of BASIC which I learned > > when I was 6 years old! > > > > I have browsed hours on the net looking for help in this sort of thing. I > > have downloaded programs, I have read hours of documents and "manuals", > and > > still, I am no further along than where I started. Programming and > databases > > are more of a mystery to me than women are. I'm absolutely CLUELESS. > > > > So basically, I need to learn this stuff as soon as humanly possible, but > I > > have NO IDEA where to start. Let me tell you first what I have done > thusfar. > > > > First thing I did was download something called mySQL Max version 3.23.49 > > directly from the website of mysql. I was under the impression that this > > program would be something along the lines of MS Access in the standpoint > of > > user interface, and it would allow you to create tables etc. (I do know > how > > to create some rudimentary tables in MS Access). So after I installed this > > program, I clicked on the icon to start it, and to my surprise, the only > > thing that happened was the an MS-Dos box popped up for about 2/10ths of a > > second and then disappeared. So to me it was a waste of 2 hours of > > downloading. > > > > After a bit more of prodding I saw that there was some configuring to do. > > For the life of me, I have no idea where to look, and even if I did, I > > wouldnt have any idea what I need to configure anyways. Basically I want > to > > have this installed so that during my learning process of PHP, I can test > > and run things on my local machine, and not have to connect to the > internet, > > upload files etc. > > > > > > Secondly, I downloaded something similar, called Easy PHP. The website > said > > it would install this and that and then something else that would allow > you > > to run PHP scripts on your local machine as well as being an editor to > help > > you write scripts. So I downloaded this as well. So 27 MB and 3 hours > later > > I have yet another useless program with no interfaces nothing. Just > > something that runs in the background. > > > > So now I talked with my roommate and explained these issues to him. He > > pointed me to a software called CodeCharge. So I downloaded that and spent > > hours looking through the "templates" and what not, and although I can s
[PHP] Re: Cry for help
Hello Chad,
I started PHP from a book.
I believe a book is a good way to start as it organized and well written to
make sure you're progressing chapter by chapter.
After that, I read articles and tutorials as I needed to expand my skills.
just my 2cents,
Elias
"Chad Winger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> I need to learn PHP and databases. If I had those skills, I would be so
much
> more succesful with my web designs. What I usually do, is make the html
> templates, and then hire someone, usually expensively, to do the PHP and
> MySQL bankend.
>
> Unfortunately, my programming skill is ZERO. Ok, maybe not zero, I do have
a
> little bit of PERL experience, but it mainly comes in the form of
> downloading prewritten scripts, and lots of trial and error in editing
them
> using common sense and drawing on my experience of BASIC which I learned
> when I was 6 years old!
>
> I have browsed hours on the net looking for help in this sort of thing. I
> have downloaded programs, I have read hours of documents and "manuals",
and
> still, I am no further along than where I started. Programming and
databases
> are more of a mystery to me than women are. I'm absolutely CLUELESS.
>
> So basically, I need to learn this stuff as soon as humanly possible, but
I
> have NO IDEA where to start. Let me tell you first what I have done
thusfar.
>
> First thing I did was download something called mySQL Max version 3.23.49
> directly from the website of mysql. I was under the impression that this
> program would be something along the lines of MS Access in the standpoint
of
> user interface, and it would allow you to create tables etc. (I do know
how
> to create some rudimentary tables in MS Access). So after I installed this
> program, I clicked on the icon to start it, and to my surprise, the only
> thing that happened was the an MS-Dos box popped up for about 2/10ths of a
> second and then disappeared. So to me it was a waste of 2 hours of
> downloading.
>
> After a bit more of prodding I saw that there was some configuring to do.
> For the life of me, I have no idea where to look, and even if I did, I
> wouldnt have any idea what I need to configure anyways. Basically I want
to
> have this installed so that during my learning process of PHP, I can test
> and run things on my local machine, and not have to connect to the
internet,
> upload files etc.
>
>
> Secondly, I downloaded something similar, called Easy PHP. The website
said
> it would install this and that and then something else that would allow
you
> to run PHP scripts on your local machine as well as being an editor to
help
> you write scripts. So I downloaded this as well. So 27 MB and 3 hours
later
> I have yet another useless program with no interfaces nothing. Just
> something that runs in the background.
>
> So now I talked with my roommate and explained these issues to him. He
> pointed me to a software called CodeCharge. So I downloaded that and spent
> hours looking through the "templates" and what not, and although I can see
> this is a step in the right direction, it still leaves me with more
> questions than answers. It wants me to specify DNS or ODBC or ASPI etc etc
> and I have no clue what that is, what it means or what is does.
>
> Furthermore I see no way to use existing html files that I have created as
> templates. Just existing ugly templates that come with the software. I'm
> sure there is a way to do that, but I haven't figured it out.
>
> So what are my questions? Basically want to do is create sets of HTML
> templates for various sections of sites. Then using the templates, code
the
> PHP to pull the correct information from a database, manipulate it, and
then
> return it together with templates. For example. On this a site that I am
now
> working on, there is a section that will contain headlines to various news
> stories. In the HTML it looks something like this:
>
>
> HEADLINE
> DATE
>
> All this would simply create is something that looks like this Below:
>
> Headline
> September 12, 2002
>
> Obviously clicking the headline would take you to another page that would
> give you the entire story. To me, drawing on common sense, what you are
> really saying is this:
>
>
> {LOOK IN THE DATABASE FOR A HEADLINE AND PRINT IT
> HERE}
> {LOOK IN THE DATABASE FOR THE DATE OF THE ABOVE HEADLINE AND PRINT IT
HERE}
>
> Makes sense no? So really for this template, it would use 2 sections from
> the database: "Headline" and "Date" and the PHP tells the server where to
> put what depending on which templates is being used
>
> I don't want to drag this on, but in other words for these sites that I am
> creating there are basically 1 thing that I need to accomplish.
>
> #1 is that I need a "control panel" that is somewhere that I can go to any
> computer and log in to. When I do that I can log-in and that will bring me
> to and ADD/EDIT/DELETE form for any section of the site, and if I go to
add,
> then I
