IM not ranting, IM pointing out that I have looked on the website and the
FAQ is a joke and help from other sources is either buy something or as the
case of IRC, no channel of that description was turned up in the search.
Out of fustration and spending several attempts to implement PHP and IM
doubting weather or not its worth all this bother, I cant get the help IM
looking for, FAQ has not got my particular issue listed and now I have
resorted to direct contact as I cant get any straight answer or link to
somewhere that does not sell me something or ask for membership or payment
of any kind. The IRC sounded a good deal better but even then the #php
channel is not listed, I try to join the #php channel and nothing
I followed the set up a from the examples in the acompanying documentation
which is very sketchy at best and all you state is after install the php.ini
file needs putting in the %system root% and configuring... well I did all
that, What I want to know is information on what is acceptable info that
should be used in the config...nice to say it needs configuring, perhaps you
could enlighten me as to all the terms and what they are meant for and what
data needs putting into the fields? I also want to know how I know its
installed and functioning as I have no idea if its functioning.
So IM stuck, fustrated as this is about the 5th time I have tried to tackle
the problem over as many months but cant get the information on what I need
to do to get it up and running, the FAQ is a joke, more info on LINUX than
you can shake a stick at, if you care to look at the site you will see the
word LINUX poping up ever few lines or so.all IM trying to do is set up
a messaging board, either Snitz forums or phpBB2, and they both use PHP.
It is no good either hi-lighting that 100's of other people have no problem
using it, mabey so, but how many 1,000s have had problems and not chased it
up? Chances are those users will have grown up and been taught that in
school or know people who understand the config of it, IM a lot longer in
tooth and have no prior knowledge of PC technology other than what I left
school with some 25 years ago, so simply stating a fact like that does not
remedy the situation and I dont think you appreciate my position when I say
that my knowledge although patchy, I have problems when setups and setup
information waffels on about terms and items that have no meaning and have
no explanation other than another jargon word or tech term... the basics of
setting up operating systems and servers is childs play as is building PCs
from scratch but compaired to setting up PHP, it has become a nightmare of
biblical proportions.
One final thing is if PHP is so easy to set up, why am I having problems?
and why is their so little help in the FAQ ?
Perhaps you should have an FAQ for newbies, no jargon or tech speak, just
information presented in a package that everyone can understand.
I really would appreciate some help, as the info IM looking for is not
listed in your FAQ.
- Original Message -
From: Gabor Hojtsy [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Senshi Oukan [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, August 30, 2003 4:47 PM
Subject: Re: Lack of info
Been down that road and it got me knowhere, I dont wish to buy
information
or books, I just need to know if its running as well as if its working
and
if the config or rather how the config works...
For an organisation that wants people to use PHP, you sure make things
very
difficult to achieve, why I am so critical of sites like yours.
I will re-iterate once more, I have trawled the site and resources and
cannot find the answer to my problem anywhere in the site or links you
provide, plenty of waffel and hot air but no nuts and bolts stuff, if
you
dont know what IM talking about??? IM talking about the info to make it
work
as at the moment it is just occupying hard drive space which I could put
to
better use if this is the level of support that you get from PHP.
So...2nd time around and I hope you read the email before you reply.
Can I have access to the information I need if you have it? You have
plenty
of advice for Linux users, what about us Windows users? Running Linux is
not
an option IM afraid.
What do you think how much of our users set up PHP on windows and on
linux? See http://php.net/usage, and see yourself that we have a lot of
users around the world.
Guys working on the PHP engine, extensions, documentation, etc. all do
their work for free, including me. We are not interested in getting
every single person to use PHP. If you find some other solution better
suited for you, then choose that one. The numbers show that there is a
huge number of users finding PHP easy to set up and run, and that we
(and all the sites covering PHP on the net) provide proper support for
what we develop for free and give out for free.
If you would like to get an answer, ask a question first.
