[PHP] Re: PHP list as a blog
Michelle Konzack wrote: Sorry for the late fdrop in... Am 2007-07-28 21:31:01, schrieb Børge Holen: On Thursday 14 June 2007 00:41, Philip Thompson wrote: On Jun 13, 2007, at 1:15 PM, Richard Lynch wrote: On Wed, June 13, 2007 12:21 am, Crayon Shin Chan wrote: Do students and interns still have quotas on their email accounts?... Yes. It does depend on the university though. For our students, the default is only 50 megs - they may request more. However, these text- only emails don't really take up that much space. WOW, thats hard... I have an account at the University in Freiburg/Germany and we have 1 GByte of storage sonce diskspace cost nearly nothing... (Even if there are over 100.000 Students) There seems to be some failure to comunicate (I believe the Prodigy said that)... whatever, quotas on the universities will not keep you from recieving mail... or download anything of the net. It just defines the space available to the user. The temporary space available lets you pull way more, and get a delete warning from either an automated system or an admin (at my university, wasn't it 10 days or so before forced deletion on random objects occured?... dunno). Random objects or objects older then a a certain age? I do not believem that a Sysadmin would delete Random objects... Imagine an master or phD degree getting lost because someone set up an university server with some weird download quota. Such things could be quiet expensive... This could hardly be _A_ reason for makin' this blog... the amount of mail or numbers should not be an issue. If it is so... how about them digest mails? ...and I realy ca not believe, that an University seup a quota of 50 MBytes. The Radboud University in Nijmegen (The Netherlands) has a 100MiB quota till a few months ago, it has been changed to 1.5GiB now I think. It's actualy not that strange, it depends on how active the university thinks its students are on the internet and what an average student requires. In this case, I'm part of the Medical Sciences Faculty, there's not that much use for a ton of webspace. While on the Faculty for Mathematics and Informatics the students receive 2GiB of extra storage space at the start of their first year (it has since been changed to 1.5GiB across all faculties though) I know many students which create montly folders and then they tar it up at the end of the month. For example I have the whole list fro, 2002 to 2007 as local mailarchive and the smalest bzip2 tarball is from 2003-11 (308kByte) and the biggest 2007-04 (1538 kByte) and deco,pressed nearly 6 times bigger MAILDIR. Greetings Michelle Konzack Systemadministrator Tamay Dogan Network Debian GNU/Linux Consultant -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
[PHP] Re: PHP list as a blog
Sorry for the late fdrop in... Am 2007-07-28 21:31:01, schrieb Børge Holen: > On Thursday 14 June 2007 00:41, Philip Thompson wrote: > > On Jun 13, 2007, at 1:15 PM, Richard Lynch wrote: > > > On Wed, June 13, 2007 12:21 am, Crayon Shin Chan wrote: > > > Do students and interns still have quotas on their email accounts?... > > > > Yes. It does depend on the university though. For our students, the > > default is only 50 megs - they may request more. However, these text- > > only emails don't really take up that much space. WOW, thats hard... I have an account at the University in Freiburg/Germany and we have 1 GByte of storage sonce diskspace cost nearly nothing... (Even if there are over 100.000 Students) > There seems to be some failure to comunicate (I believe the Prodigy said > that)... whatever, quotas on the universities will not keep you from > recieving mail... or download anything of the net. It just defines the space > available to the user. The temporary space available lets you pull way more, > and get a delete warning from either an automated system or an admin (at my > university, wasn't it 10 days or so before forced deletion on random objects > occured?... dunno). Random objects or objects older then a a certain age? I do not believem that a Sysadmin would delete Random objects... > Imagine an master or phD degree getting lost because someone set up an > university server with some weird download quota. Such things could be quiet expensive... > This could hardly be _A_ reason for makin' this blog... the amount of mail or > numbers should not be an issue. If it is so... how about them digest mails? ...and I realy ca not believe, that an University seup a quota of 50 MBytes. I know many students which create montly folders and then they tar it up at the end of the month. For example I have the whole list fro, 2002 to 2007 as local mailarchive and the smalest bzip2 tarball is from 2003-11 (308kByte) and the biggest 2007-04 (1538 kByte) and deco,pressed nearly 6 times bigger MAILDIR. Greetings Michelle Konzack Systemadministrator Tamay Dogan Network Debian GNU/Linux Consultant -- Linux-User #280138 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org/ # Debian GNU/Linux Consultant # Michelle Konzack Apt. 917 ICQ #328449886 50, rue de Soultz MSN LinuxMichi 0033/6/6192519367100 Strasbourg/France IRC #Debian (irc.icq.com) signature.pgp Description: Digital signature
Re: [PHP] Re: PHP list as a blog
On Wed, 2007-06-13 at 12:26 +0100, Colin Guthrie wrote: > Depends on the list settings - it can be turned on with the flick of a > switch... just ask the guys at Gmane. > Sure, but most lists do not do this by default... > It's quite annoying for trying to contact someone tho' :) > It's even more annoying getting a zillion spammers knocking over your mailserver for no reason. :) --Paul All Email originating from UWC is covered by disclaimer http://www.uwc.ac.za/portal/uwc2006/content/mail_disclaimer/index.htm -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
[PHP] Re: PHP list as a blog
Paul Scott wrote: > On Wed, 2007-06-13 at 11:51 +0100, Colin Guthrie wrote: >> Erm, reinventing the wheel? >> > > Not quite, more of a test of the code so that I know that Bad Things do > not happen when there is a lot of traffic/posts. > > If it serves another purpose (like letting students etc see what is > happening) all the better. > > I notice that gmane blogs do not obfuscate the email addresses of > senders though. Depends on the list settings - it can be turned on with the flick of a switch... just ask the guys at Gmane. It's quite annoying for trying to contact someone tho' :) For example, via NNTP here I can see your address, but on e.g. the KDE Imaging mailing list they are all messed up! Col. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Re: PHP list as a blog
On Wed, 2007-06-13 at 11:51 +0100, Colin Guthrie wrote: > Erm, reinventing the wheel? > Not quite, more of a test of the code so that I know that Bad Things do not happen when there is a lot of traffic/posts. If it serves another purpose (like letting students etc see what is happening) all the better. I notice that gmane blogs do not obfuscate the email addresses of senders though. --Paul All Email originating from UWC is covered by disclaimer http://www.uwc.ac.za/portal/uwc2006/content/mail_disclaimer/index.htm -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
[PHP] Re: PHP list as a blog
Paul Scott wrote: > I have set up our new Chisimba blog system (GPL, http://avoir.uwc.ac.za) > to blog all of the posts to this list. > > Please check it out at > http://196.21.45.50/fsiu/chisimba_framework/app/index.php?module=blog&action=allblogs > > and let me know what you think! Erm, reinventing the wheel? http://blog.gmane.org/gmane.comp.php.general I always use/view the PHP list via gmane (I'm not subscribed). I use Thunderbird's NNTP reader and gmanes NNTP server. It works like a charm and saves a lot of hassle subscribing to mailing lists :) Check it out: http://www.gmane.org/ Col. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
