Re: [PHP] Re: PhpMailer vs Pear:Mail

2005-11-29 Thread Richard Heyes

Petr Smith wrote:

Cabbar Duzayak wrote:


Could you please tell which one you recommend in terms of
stability/speed and share your experience in terms of these 2?

Thanks...



I tried all and ended with http://www.phpguru.org/static/htmlMimeMail5.html

fast, stable, usable.


A very good choice. ;-)

--
Richard Heyes
http://www.phpguru.org

--
PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/)
To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php



Re: [PHP] Re: PhpMailer vs Pear:Mail

2005-11-29 Thread Max Schwanekamp

Richard Heyes wrote:

Petr Smith wrote:
I tried all and ended with 
http://www.phpguru.org/static/htmlMimeMail5.html

fast, stable, usable.

A very good choice. ;-)


But but but, what *is* the advantage of one over the other?  I've been a 
PhpMailer devotee for some time.  PEAR::Mail is too spare, PhpMailer is 
reasonably quick and has proven quite stable (I've built a couple 
newsletter apps using it).  What's the advantage of Richard's package 
vs. the Pear one (on which he is a lead dev) vs. PhpMailer?


--
Max Schwanekamp
http://www.neptunewebworks.com/

--
PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/)
To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php



Re: [PHP] Re: PhpMailer vs Pear:Mail

2005-11-29 Thread Manuel Lemos

Hello,

on 11/29/2005 10:59 PM Max Schwanekamp said the following:

Richard Heyes wrote:

Petr Smith wrote:
I tried all and ended with 
http://www.phpguru.org/static/htmlMimeMail5.html

fast, stable, usable.

A very good choice. ;-)


But but but, what *is* the advantage of one over the other?  I've been a 
PhpMailer devotee for some time.  PEAR::Mail is too spare, PhpMailer is 
reasonably quick and has proven quite stable (I've built a couple 
newsletter apps using it).  What's the advantage of Richard's package 
vs. the Pear one (on which he is a lead dev) vs. PhpMailer?



Mind me for another opinion. I am not the right person to compare those 
packages because I do not use them. I use a MIME message class for many 
years that provides special resources for optimizing deliveries to many 
recipients like for instance newsletters.


Optimizing deliveries depend on the method that you use to deliver the 
messages. This package provides several different delivery methods that 
are implemented by different sub-classes in the package: mail(), 
sendmail, qmail, SMTP, Windows pickup folder.


You can tell the class to optimize the queueing of the messages for many 
recipients just by calling the function SetBulkMail(). Then whatever is 
the sub-class of the delivery method that you use, it will set its mode 
of operation to minimize the time that your script has to wait to queue 
all the messages to your recipients.


Furthermore, if your message body are the same for all the newsletter 
recipients, the class can cache the message body so it will not waste 
time rebuilding the message to all users.


All these techniques provide huge speedup. I use this package for many 
years. Currently it is used to send about 3.5 million newsletters a 
month and I can tell you that it is very fast queuing around 30 messages 
per second in a qmail based setup, all done in pure PHP code.


http://www.phpclasses.org/mimemessage

--

Regards,
Manuel Lemos

Metastorage - Data object relational mapping layer generator
http://www.metastorage.net/

PHP Classes - Free ready to use OOP components written in PHP
http://www.phpclasses.org/

--
PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/)
To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php



Re: [PHP] Re: PhpMailer vs Pear:Mail

2005-11-29 Thread Curt Zirzow
On Tue, Nov 29, 2005 at 04:59:55PM -0800, Max Schwanekamp wrote:
 Richard Heyes wrote:
 Petr Smith wrote:
 I tried all and ended with 
 http://www.phpguru.org/static/htmlMimeMail5.html
 fast, stable, usable.
 A very good choice. ;-)
 
 But but but, what *is* the advantage of one over the other?  I've been a 
 PhpMailer devotee for some time.  PEAR::Mail is too spare, PhpMailer is 
 reasonably quick and has proven quite stable (I've built a couple 
 newsletter apps using it).  What's the advantage of Richard's package 
 vs. the Pear one (on which he is a lead dev) vs. PhpMailer?

First off, the OT is rather to general to really know what is going
to be better, the only way to resolve it is to benchmark the
results, if you are sending one message heh.. good luck figuring
that out.

What i would be looking for is if there are tools to manage a
mailman list or ezlm list, i'd rather have an application that is
designed for sending out bulk emails than try to figure out what is
the best php Mail/STMP interface to send email to an MTA that will
most likely be the bottleneck anyway.

As for speed, you will  most likly have a issues with the actual
STMP server or the MTA trying to send the documents. Even if you
speed up on how fast php can send email to a STMP server directly or
inject the messages to the MTA, the messages can only be sent as
fast as they can be delivered, thus any effort to make php sending
mail faster is rather futile.

Curt.
-- 
cat .signature: No such file or directory

-- 
PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/)
To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php



[PHP] Re: PhpMailer vs Pear:Mail

2005-11-28 Thread Petr Smith

Cabbar Duzayak wrote:

Could you please tell which one you recommend in terms of
stability/speed and share your experience in terms of these 2?

Thanks...



I tried all and ended with http://www.phpguru.org/static/htmlMimeMail5.html

fast, stable, usable.

Petr

--
PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/)
To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php