Re: [PHP] Re: Sequrity without HTTPS?

2004-11-18 Thread Chris Shiflett
--- Peter Lauri <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> If you use the Autority HTTP that pops up a login window by
> default, is that safe against "listeners"?

Assuming you mean HTTP Basic Authentication, it is not encrypted, so it is
not "safe" from snooping.

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[PHP] Re: Sequrity without HTTPS?

2004-11-18 Thread Manuel Lemos
On 11/18/2004 10:23 AM, Peter Lauri wrote:
If you use the Autority HTTP that pops up a login window by default, is that
safe against "listeners"?
It depends on the authentication method. Basic authentication method 
passes passwords as base64 encoded plain text. Digest and even NTLM are 
safer because the actual passwords are not sent without encryption.

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[PHP] Re: Sequrity without HTTPS?

2004-11-18 Thread Sebastian Mendel
Peter Lauri wrote:
If you use the Autority HTTP that pops up a login window by default, is that
safe against "listeners"?
IMHO, the login-data is sent as plain text also, and this with every 
subsequent request! and not only with the first!

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[PHP] Re: Sequrity without HTTPS?

2004-11-18 Thread Peter Lauri
If you use the Autority HTTP that pops up a login window by default, is that
safe against "listeners"?

/Peter

"Sebastian Mendel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> skrev i meddelandet
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Peter Lauri wrote:
> > Best groupmember,
> >
> > I am about to develop an simple admintool for a webpage. My webhost
(crappy
> > but nonexpensive) does not support HTTPS and I still want to be able to
> > create some sort of secure login.
> >
> > For the moment I am just using a form that sends the username and passwd
> > with POST method that verifies the username and passwd in a script. When
> > this is set I put a $_SESSION['usertype']="admin" and when a adminpage
is
> > beeing requested I check so that this sessionvariable is "admin",
othervise
> > I redirect to the loginpage and unset all session variables.
> >
> > Can someone from outside set a $_SESSION variable with some "hacker"
> > techniqe?
> >
> > I assume it is easy to listen to the USERNAME and PASSWORD in the
POST-form.
> >
> > Someone with some tips and tricks to get a secure system without using
> > HTTPS?
>
> if you have no https you can try a javascript-solution
>
> encode with a encode-key with javascript before sending and decode with
> a decode-key when recieving!
>
> just what you need is key who can encode but not decode! und the
> appropriate decode key on the server, to decode it.
>
> just try to look for some javascript in the web!
>
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[PHP] Re: Sequrity without HTTPS?

2004-11-18 Thread Sebastian Mendel
Peter Lauri wrote:
Best groupmember,
I am about to develop an simple admintool for a webpage. My webhost (crappy
but nonexpensive) does not support HTTPS and I still want to be able to
create some sort of secure login.
For the moment I am just using a form that sends the username and passwd
with POST method that verifies the username and passwd in a script. When
this is set I put a $_SESSION['usertype']="admin" and when a adminpage is
beeing requested I check so that this sessionvariable is "admin", othervise
I redirect to the loginpage and unset all session variables.
Can someone from outside set a $_SESSION variable with some "hacker"
techniqe?
I assume it is easy to listen to the USERNAME and PASSWORD in the POST-form.
Someone with some tips and tricks to get a secure system without using
HTTPS?
if you have no https you can try a javascript-solution
encode with a encode-key with javascript before sending and decode with 
a decode-key when recieving!

just what you need is key who can encode but not decode! und the 
appropriate decode key on the server, to decode it.

just try to look for some javascript in the web!
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