Re: [PHP] Re: Tracking a mobile phone

2005-09-02 Thread Angelo Zanetti
Marcus Bointon wrote:

 On 18 Jul 2005, at 20:56, Sebastian wrote:

 The phone would have to have GPS capabilities..


 Not true. The network knows what cell the phone is in(and cells are 
 pretty small in cities), and it knows where the cell is. This is the 
 mechanism that's used for location dependent services (especially 
 directions and local maps) that are currently being pushed in the UK.

 Whether you can get access to that information is another matter, 
 especially internationally.

 Marcus



yeah Marcus is correct. the carriers will have that info but probably
wont allow you to see it. But in theory it should work.

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Re: [PHP] Re: Tracking a mobile phone

2005-09-02 Thread Jasper Bryant-Greene

Angelo Zanetti wrote:

Marcus Bointon wrote:


On 18 Jul 2005, at 20:56, Sebastian wrote:


The phone would have to have GPS capabilities..


Not true. The network knows what cell the phone is in(and cells are 
pretty small in cities), and it knows where the cell is. This is the 
mechanism that's used for location dependent services (especially 
directions and local maps) that are currently being pushed in the UK.


Whether you can get access to that information is another matter, 
especially internationally.




yeah Marcus is correct. the carriers will have that info but probably
wont allow you to see it. But in theory it should work.



I'm not sure why this two-month-old topic has been dredged up, but I 
believe that if you can install a custom Java (or similar) app on the 
mobile then you can (at least in NZ) easily find out the name of the 
cell that the phone is in (for example Cathedral Square here in 
Christchurch, New Zealand) but I'm not so sure about location. And some 
cell names are pretty vague (Christchurch East).


Anyway, this is a bit OT now...

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Re: [PHP] Re: Tracking a mobile phone

2005-07-20 Thread Marcus Bointon

On 18 Jul 2005, at 20:56, Sebastian wrote:


The phone would have to have GPS capabilities..


Not true. The network knows what cell the phone is in(and cells are  
pretty small in cities), and it knows where the cell is. This is the  
mechanism that's used for location dependent services (especially  
directions and local maps) that are currently being pushed in the UK.


Whether you can get access to that information is another matter,  
especially internationally.


Marcus

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[PHP] Re: Tracking a mobile phone

2005-07-18 Thread Ethilien
I think that would require tapping the cellphone network, which I doubt 
they would let you do since it be a major violation of privacy, because 
you could track the general location of anyone on their network.


Thomas wrote:

Hi there,

 


I was wondering if anybody has attempted to track a mobile phone through a
country. I know that this is usually more a case for the FBI . a friend of
mine is going on a 4 month bike tour and I would like to 'track' him for
locations. I thought of an sms receiving system, but if could do any other
way would be great.

 


Any ideas?

 


Thomas




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Re: [PHP] Re: Tracking a mobile phone

2005-07-18 Thread Andy Pieters
Hi

I did hear of a gps feature that's been tested here. Basically you subscribe 
to a service by your provider and then you choose where to forward the data.  
I've seen it in use in some company that tracks it's least selling 
representatives (with their approval, off course).

With kind regards

Andy




On Monday 18 July 2005 21:41, Ethilien wrote:
 I think that would require tapping the cellphone network, which I doubt
 they would let you do since it be a major violation of privacy, because
 you could track the general location of anyone on their network.

 Thomas wrote:
  Hi there,
 
 
 
  I was wondering if anybody has attempted to track a mobile phone through
  a country. I know that this is usually more a case for the FBI . a friend
  of mine is going on a 4 month bike tour and I would like to 'track' him
  for locations. I thought of an sms receiving system, but if could do any
  other way would be great.
 
 
 
  Any ideas?
 
 
 
  Thomas

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[PHP] Re: Tracking a mobile phone

2005-07-18 Thread George B

Ethilien wrote:
I think that would require tapping the cellphone network, which I doubt 
they would let you do since it be a major violation of privacy, because 
you could track the general location of anyone on their network.


Thomas wrote:


Hi there,

 

I was wondering if anybody has attempted to track a mobile phone 
through a
country. I know that this is usually more a case for the FBI . a 
friend of

mine is going on a 4 month bike tour and I would like to 'track' him for
locations. I thought of an sms receiving system, but if could do any 
other

way would be great.

 


Any ideas?

 


Thomas


There was a way to do this... But it wasnt with cellphones... They have 
a tutorial thing on slashdot


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Re: [PHP] Re: Tracking a mobile phone

2005-07-18 Thread Sebastian

The phone would have to have GPS capabilities..

Ethilien wrote:

I think that would require tapping the cellphone network, which I 
doubt they would let you do since it be a major violation of privacy, 
because you could track the general location of anyone on their network.


Thomas wrote:


Hi there,

 

I was wondering if anybody has attempted to track a mobile phone 
through a
country. I know that this is usually more a case for the FBI . a 
friend of

mine is going on a 4 month bike tour and I would like to 'track' him for
locations. I thought of an sms receiving system, but if could do any 
other

way would be great.

 


Any ideas?

 


Thomas







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Re: [PHP] Re: Tracking a mobile phone

2005-07-18 Thread Evert | Rooftop
Yea that would be very very hard.. besides if your friend would do the 
trip in the usa, I doubt he can access the network at all ;)
In any case, the most realistic choice would be to buy a GPS-enabled 
phone and write a nice Java app that does the job for you (maybe even 
flash-lite can do it).


Evert

Ethilien wrote:

I think that would require tapping the cellphone network, which I 
doubt they would let you do since it be a major violation of privacy, 
because you could track the general location of anyone on their network.


Thomas wrote:


Hi there,

 

I was wondering if anybody has attempted to track a mobile phone 
through a
country. I know that this is usually more a case for the FBI . a 
friend of

mine is going on a 4 month bike tour and I would like to 'track' him for
locations. I thought of an sms receiving system, but if could do any 
other

way would be great.

 


Any ideas?

 


Thomas






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