Re: [PHP] Re: php-cli vs python OT
On Sat, June 9, 2007 11:15 pm, Robert Cummings wrote: > On Thu, 2007-06-07 at 23:33 +0100, Colin Guthrie wrote: >> Robert Cummings wrote: >> > On Thu, 2007-06-07 at 16:36 -0400, Daniel Brown wrote: >> >> Are you using Amarok on Windows, Linux, or other? I have >> Amarok >> >> 1.3.1 on KDE 3.4.2 on Mandriva 2006.0 Community on >> 2.6.12-12mdksmp on >> >> an i686 Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 2.60GHz w/ 1GB RAM on a desk >> with a >> >> bunch of crap on it, and all it does is crash for me. I use >> Totem >> >> instead, occasionally using xine for audio, and usually for video >> >> (different subject). Just wondering how stable Amarok is for >> you. >> > >> > I'm running Amarok 1.4.3 (using KDE 3.5.5) on Ubuntu 6.10 (I'm >> actually >> > a Gnome user). I used Mandrake up till 10.0, I'll never go back. >> My >> > desktop is an Athlon 2400 with 2 gigs of memory (though >> consumption >> > rarely goes past half gig unless I'm running several VMWare OSes >> at the >> > same time). I started using it about 3 days ago, I've had a few >> crashes, >> > but mostly when doing something major like re-scanning my >> collection >> > (8000+). Had no trouble grabbing covers, creating playlists, >> editing >> > 100s of tags within Amarok, etc. Only complaint really is that >> it's pig >> > slow when switching to or sorting columns on large playlists (well >> the >> > whole 8000 heheh). >> >> I'm a Mandriva dev and would have to say that if you've not used it >> for >> a while I think you'll be pleasently surprised these days. It's come >> a >> long, long way since 10.0! >> >> Also the older Amarok run by Daniel is faily unstable (I'm also a >> bit of >> a KDE dev when I get a mo'!) is fairly old and bug ridden. Whatever >> your >> distro, I'd upgrade your Amarok to the latest stable for the best >> experience. FWIW, if you add your sources correctly you can just >> urpmi >> your 2006.0 machine to 2007.1 relatively easily. I've done it on >> several >> machines now (a couple of them remotely!). > > FYI, after a few days of using Amarok I've found it to be extremely > prone to hanging. To try and correct the problem I downloaded the > latest > stable source (1.4.5) and built it myself. Still hanging all over the > place (simple selection of new mp3, re-arranging queued songs, etc). > It > also appears to keep NFS file handles open (possibly with locks) since > my NFS hung a few times after it died and I had to force an unmount. > Definitely not NFS itself, I've transferred 100s of gigs over months > of > uptime without a problem... only seen it hang on an Amarok hang (more > than once now). Anyways, I'll keep giving it a go, I created a wrapper > script when starting it up now that checks the process list and kills > all related Amarok processes before relaunching... makes it a little > more bearable). > > BTW, I know this isn't your issue or anything Colin, just passing > along > my experience for Dan :) FWIW: I've been using audacious for awhile now as a replacement for XMMS, and it seems to work okay for me. It does take FOREVER to time out when an MP3 link goes bad, though, and it's easier to kill it than to wait... -- Some people have a "gift" link here. Know what I want? I want you to buy a CD from some indie artist. http://cdbaby.com/browse/from/lynch Yeah, I get a buck. So? -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Re: php-cli vs python OT
On 6/10/07, Robert Cummings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Thu, 2007-06-07 at 23:33 +0100, Colin Guthrie wrote: > Robert Cummings wrote: > > On Thu, 2007-06-07 at 16:36 -0400, Daniel Brown wrote: > >> Are you using Amarok on Windows, Linux, or other? I have Amarok > >> 1.3.1 on KDE 3.4.2 on Mandriva 2006.0 Community on 2.6.12-12mdksmp on > >> an i686 Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 2.60GHz w/ 1GB RAM on a desk with a > >> bunch of crap on it, and all it does is crash for me. I use Totem > >> instead, occasionally using xine for audio, and usually for video > >> (different subject). Just wondering how stable Amarok is for you. > > > > I'm running Amarok 1.4.3 (using KDE 3.5.5) on Ubuntu 6.10 (I'm actually > > a Gnome user). I used Mandrake up till 10.0, I'll never go back. My > > desktop is an Athlon 2400 with 2 gigs of memory (though consumption > > rarely goes past half gig unless I'm running several VMWare OSes at the > > same time). I started using it about 3 days ago, I've had a few crashes, > > but mostly when doing something major like re-scanning my collection > > (8000+). Had no trouble grabbing covers, creating playlists, editing > > 100s of tags within Amarok, etc. Only complaint really is that it's pig > > slow when switching to or sorting columns on large playlists (well the > > whole 8000 heheh). > > I'm a Mandriva dev and would have to say that if you've not used it for > a while I think you'll be pleasently surprised these days. It's come a > long, long way since 10.0! > > Also the older Amarok run by Daniel is faily unstable (I'm also a bit of > a KDE dev when I get a mo'!) is fairly old and bug ridden. Whatever your > distro, I'd upgrade your Amarok to the latest stable for the best > experience. FWIW, if you add your sources correctly you can just urpmi > your 2006.0 machine to 2007.1 relatively easily. I've done it on several > machines now (a couple of them remotely!). FYI, after a few days of using Amarok I've found it to be extremely prone to hanging. To try and correct the problem I downloaded the latest stable source (1.4.5) and built it myself. Still hanging all over the place (simple selection of new mp3, re-arranging queued songs, etc). It also appears to keep NFS file handles open (possibly with locks) since my NFS hung a few times after it died and I had to force an unmount. Definitely not NFS itself, I've transferred 100s of gigs over months of uptime without a problem... only seen it hang on an Amarok hang (more than once now). Anyways, I'll keep giving it a go, I created a wrapper script when starting it up now that checks the process list and kills all related Amarok processes before relaunching... makes it a little more bearable). BTW, I know this isn't your issue or anything Colin, just passing along my experience for Dan :) Cheers, Rob. -- .. | InterJinn Application Framework - http://www.interjinn.com | :: | An application and templating framework for PHP. Boasting | | a powerful, scalable system for accessing system services | | such as forms, properties, sessions, and caches. InterJinn | | also provides an extremely flexible architecture for | | creating re-usable components quickly and easily. | `' Are you using journaling? It may be something we have in common that's causing both of our problems. Really OT for the PHP list, but maybe we can whip up a replicated issue for a bug report nonetheless. -- Daniel P. Brown [office] (570-) 587-7080 Ext. 272 [mobile] (570-) 766-8107 -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Re: php-cli vs python OT
On Thu, 2007-06-07 at 23:33 +0100, Colin Guthrie wrote: > Robert Cummings wrote: > > On Thu, 2007-06-07 at 16:36 -0400, Daniel Brown wrote: > >> Are you using Amarok on Windows, Linux, or other? I have Amarok > >> 1.3.1 on KDE 3.4.2 on Mandriva 2006.0 Community on 2.6.12-12mdksmp on > >> an i686 Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 2.60GHz w/ 1GB RAM on a desk with a > >> bunch of crap on it, and all it does is crash for me. I use Totem > >> instead, occasionally using xine for audio, and usually for video > >> (different subject). Just wondering how stable Amarok is for you. > > > > I'm running Amarok 1.4.3 (using KDE 3.5.5) on Ubuntu 6.10 (I'm actually > > a Gnome user). I used Mandrake up till 10.0, I'll never go back. My > > desktop is an Athlon 2400 with 2 gigs of memory (though consumption > > rarely goes past half gig unless I'm running several VMWare OSes at the > > same time). I started using it about 3 days ago, I've had a few crashes, > > but mostly when doing something major like re-scanning my collection > > (8000+). Had no trouble grabbing covers, creating playlists, editing > > 100s of tags within Amarok, etc. Only complaint really is that it's pig > > slow when switching to or sorting columns on large playlists (well the > > whole 8000 heheh). > > I'm a Mandriva dev and would have to say that if you've not used it for > a while I think you'll be pleasently surprised these days. It's come a > long, long way since 10.0! > > Also the older Amarok run by Daniel is faily unstable (I'm also a bit of > a KDE dev when I get a mo'!) is fairly old and bug ridden. Whatever your > distro, I'd upgrade your Amarok to the latest stable for the best > experience. FWIW, if you add your sources correctly you can just urpmi > your 2006.0 machine to 2007.1 relatively easily. I've done it on several > machines now (a couple of them remotely!). FYI, after a few days of using Amarok I've found it to be extremely prone to hanging. To try and correct the problem I downloaded the latest stable source (1.4.5) and built it myself. Still hanging all over the place (simple selection of new mp3, re-arranging queued songs, etc). It also appears to keep NFS file handles open (possibly with locks) since my NFS hung a few times after it died and I had to force an unmount. Definitely not NFS itself, I've transferred 100s of gigs over months of uptime without a problem... only seen it hang on an Amarok hang (more than once now). Anyways, I'll keep giving it a go, I created a wrapper script when starting it up now that checks the process list and kills all related Amarok processes before relaunching... makes it a little more bearable). BTW, I know this isn't your issue or anything Colin, just passing along my experience for Dan :) Cheers, Rob. -- .. | InterJinn Application Framework - http://www.interjinn.com | :: | An application and templating framework for PHP. Boasting | | a powerful, scalable system for accessing system services | | such as forms, properties, sessions, and caches. InterJinn | | also provides an extremely flexible architecture for | | creating re-usable components quickly and easily. | `' -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Re: php-cli vs python OT
On 6/7/07, Robert Cummings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Thu, 2007-06-07 at 23:33 +0100, Colin Guthrie wrote: > Robert Cummings wrote: > > On Thu, 2007-06-07 at 16:36 -0400, Daniel Brown wrote: > >> Are you using Amarok on Windows, Linux, or other? I have Amarok > >> 1.3.1 on KDE 3.4.2 on Mandriva 2006.0 Community on 2.6.12-12mdksmp on > >> an i686 Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 2.60GHz w/ 1GB RAM on a desk with a > >> bunch of crap on it, and all it does is crash for me. I use Totem > >> instead, occasionally using xine for audio, and usually for video > >> (different subject). Just wondering how stable Amarok is for you. > > > > I'm running Amarok 1.4.3 (using KDE 3.5.5) on Ubuntu 6.10 (I'm actually > > a Gnome user). I used Mandrake up till 10.0, I'll never go back. My > > desktop is an Athlon 2400 with 2 gigs of memory (though consumption > > rarely goes past half gig unless I'm running several VMWare OSes at the > > same time). I started using it about 3 days ago, I've had a few crashes, > > but mostly when doing something major like re-scanning my collection > > (8000+). Had no trouble grabbing covers, creating playlists, editing > > 100s of tags within Amarok, etc. Only complaint really is that it's pig > > slow when switching to or sorting columns on large playlists (well the > > whole 8000 heheh). > > I'm a Mandriva dev and would have to say that if you've not used it for > a while I think you'll be pleasently surprised these days. It's come a > long, long way since 10.0! I guess I should never say never :) Maybe I'll give it a spin in VMWare when I have some spare time. Cheers, Rob. -- .. | InterJinn Application Framework - http://www.interjinn.com | :: | An application and templating framework for PHP. Boasting | | a powerful, scalable system for accessing system services | | such as forms, properties, sessions, and caches. InterJinn | | also provides an extremely flexible architecture for | | creating re-usable components quickly and easily. | `' -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php Yeah, like I've said in other posts, I've been using Mandrive since before Connectiva got in the mix, and it was Mandrake. The first version I jumped on was Mandrake 7.2 (Odyssey) back in 2000, after jumping off of Redhat 7 (Guinness). I usually upgrade about once every year or so, going to 8.1 (Vitamin), 8.2 (Bluebird), and 9.2 (FiveStar), but used FiveStar from 2003 until last year when I made the huge leap to 2006.0 Community. Freaking amazing. So since 2000, I've been using it at home, in my vehicles, and even used it as a requirement for hire when a new company wanted to bring me on (which is from where I'm typing right now, in fact). I haven't bumped up versions yet on any of my machines, so 2006.0 is my most recent installation, and I rarely use it for a production server (though almost always for my local test and development environments), but as long as Mandriva keeps everything in the spirit of the original Mandrakelinux project, I don't see myself jumping ship completely. I'll add a CentOS server or play with an Ubuntu distro here and there, but Mandrake will always be home to me. -- Daniel P. Brown [office] (570-) 587-7080 Ext. 272 [mobile] (570-) 766-8107 -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Re: php-cli vs python OT
On Thu, 2007-06-07 at 23:33 +0100, Colin Guthrie wrote: > Robert Cummings wrote: > > On Thu, 2007-06-07 at 16:36 -0400, Daniel Brown wrote: > >> Are you using Amarok on Windows, Linux, or other? I have Amarok > >> 1.3.1 on KDE 3.4.2 on Mandriva 2006.0 Community on 2.6.12-12mdksmp on > >> an i686 Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 2.60GHz w/ 1GB RAM on a desk with a > >> bunch of crap on it, and all it does is crash for me. I use Totem > >> instead, occasionally using xine for audio, and usually for video > >> (different subject). Just wondering how stable Amarok is for you. > > > > I'm running Amarok 1.4.3 (using KDE 3.5.5) on Ubuntu 6.10 (I'm actually > > a Gnome user). I used Mandrake up till 10.0, I'll never go back. My > > desktop is an Athlon 2400 with 2 gigs of memory (though consumption > > rarely goes past half gig unless I'm running several VMWare OSes at the > > same time). I started using it about 3 days ago, I've had a few crashes, > > but mostly when doing something major like re-scanning my collection > > (8000+). Had no trouble grabbing covers, creating playlists, editing > > 100s of tags within Amarok, etc. Only complaint really is that it's pig > > slow when switching to or sorting columns on large playlists (well the > > whole 8000 heheh). > > I'm a Mandriva dev and would have to say that if you've not used it for > a while I think you'll be pleasently surprised these days. It's come a > long, long way since 10.0! I guess I should never say never :) Maybe I'll give it a spin in VMWare when I have some spare time. Cheers, Rob. -- .. | InterJinn Application Framework - http://www.interjinn.com | :: | An application and templating framework for PHP. Boasting | | a powerful, scalable system for accessing system services | | such as forms, properties, sessions, and caches. InterJinn | | also provides an extremely flexible architecture for | | creating re-usable components quickly and easily. | `' -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
[PHP] Re: php-cli vs python OT
Robert Cummings wrote: > On Thu, 2007-06-07 at 16:36 -0400, Daniel Brown wrote: >> Are you using Amarok on Windows, Linux, or other? I have Amarok >> 1.3.1 on KDE 3.4.2 on Mandriva 2006.0 Community on 2.6.12-12mdksmp on >> an i686 Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 2.60GHz w/ 1GB RAM on a desk with a >> bunch of crap on it, and all it does is crash for me. I use Totem >> instead, occasionally using xine for audio, and usually for video >> (different subject). Just wondering how stable Amarok is for you. > > I'm running Amarok 1.4.3 (using KDE 3.5.5) on Ubuntu 6.10 (I'm actually > a Gnome user). I used Mandrake up till 10.0, I'll never go back. My > desktop is an Athlon 2400 with 2 gigs of memory (though consumption > rarely goes past half gig unless I'm running several VMWare OSes at the > same time). I started using it about 3 days ago, I've had a few crashes, > but mostly when doing something major like re-scanning my collection > (8000+). Had no trouble grabbing covers, creating playlists, editing > 100s of tags within Amarok, etc. Only complaint really is that it's pig > slow when switching to or sorting columns on large playlists (well the > whole 8000 heheh). I'm a Mandriva dev and would have to say that if you've not used it for a while I think you'll be pleasently surprised these days. It's come a long, long way since 10.0! Also the older Amarok run by Daniel is faily unstable (I'm also a bit of a KDE dev when I get a mo'!) is fairly old and bug ridden. Whatever your distro, I'd upgrade your Amarok to the latest stable for the best experience. FWIW, if you add your sources correctly you can just urpmi your 2006.0 machine to 2007.1 relatively easily. I've done it on several machines now (a couple of them remotely!). Col -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
