[PHP] Zend Training requirements

2004-12-03 Thread Rory Browne
Hi
I was looking at Zend training requirements, on Zends website.

They reportedly require Win2k/XP, and IE5.5.

Does anyone know what specific part of these training courses require
Win2k/xp and IE, and whether or not it is possible to bypass this
using Wine(or if it is due to a wma dep, using mozilla/mplayer)? I was
discussing this with a collegue on the Irish  Linux Users Group, and
neither of us can meet the Windows Requirement, with me, running
various flavours of (GNU/)Linux only, and he running Linux, and
MacOSX, only.

I personally hyphothised that this may be a support issue, that
Linux/Mac would work, but that the support staff didn't know how to
use them? Is this possible? It seems strange that training for the use
of Free/Open Source Software would require win2k/xp.

Regards
Rory

PS I filled in Zends contact us form, but haven't heard back from them yet.

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Re: [PHP] Zend Training requirements

2004-12-03 Thread Chris Shiflett
--- Rory Browne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I was looking at Zend training requirements, on Zends website.
 
 They reportedly require Win2k/XP, and IE5.5.
 
 Does anyone know what specific part of these training courses
 require Win2k/xp and IE, and whether or not it is possible to
 bypass this using Wine(or if it is due to a wma dep, using
 mozilla/mplayer)?

The software used for the virtual classroom requires Windows, and clicking
a link in IE is required to join the class (it doesn't work if you click
the link in Firefox). It's a proprietary application - not any standard
audio or video like you might be thinking.

I have a separate Windows partition that I use 3 hours each month for this
purpose (soon to be 6 hours a month, since I'm going to add a class in
January). It's definitely something I wish would change, but that's not
really my decision. I hate to think that people are excluded because of
the platform, but I know that happens, especially since a majority of
professional developers seem to use Linux and Mac OS X as much or more
than Windows. Installing Windows to teach a security course seemed rather
odd, believe me. :-)

If you can spare a partition or have a friend with a Windows PC, I really
do think it's a good deal for $99 a class. This virtual training isn't as
good as the real deal (in person), but it's much better than I expected,
and it's so darn cheap.

 I was discussing this with a collegue on the Irish Linux Users
 Group, and neither of us can meet the Windows Requirement, with
 me, running various flavours of (GNU/)Linux only, and he running
 Linux, and MacOSX, only.

I have personally tried Virtual PC on Mac OS X with this software, and it
works fine for listening. I can't use it to teach, because my voice is too
choppy with the emulation, but it should work fine for taking a class.
I've never personally tried wine, but I know someone who has, and it has
the same issues - you just can't talk. There is a way to send an IM to the
intructor during class, and most people use this anyway, so it might not
be an issue.

 It seems strange that training for the use of Free/Open Source
 Software would require win2k/xp.

Yes, I agree. If you can manage to work around this hassle, I think you'll
find the training to be worth it. I hope so. :-)

Chris

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