[PHP] hosting provider won't enable ftp_connect()

2004-08-10 Thread Brian Anderson
I am trying to get a hosting provider(Godaddy.com) to enable the ftp_connect
extensions to php. They tell me that they cannot do so for security reasons.
Is this really such a security issue?

At php.net I read the advice:

for ftp to work you must do ./configure --enable-ftp in php4

...and from phpcollab.com:

You should ask your hosting provider to install those for you, probably
they will do without much problem. Or, if they don't want to, you should
consider choosing another provider.

If it is an issue, does anyone know of a hosting provider that allows these
extensions?

-Brian Anderson

-- 
PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/)
To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php



RE: [PHP] hosting provider won't enable ftp_connect()

2004-08-10 Thread Jay Blanchard
[snip]
If it is an issue, does anyone know of a hosting provider that allows
these extensions?
[/snip]

http://www.phpwebhosting.com/

--
PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/)
To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php



Re: [PHP] hosting provider won't enable ftp_connect()

2004-08-10 Thread John Nichel
Brian Anderson wrote:
I am trying to get a hosting provider(Godaddy.com) to enable the ftp_connect
extensions to php. They tell me that they cannot do so for security reasons.
Is this really such a security issue?
At php.net I read the advice:
for ftp to work you must do ./configure --enable-ftp in php4
...and from phpcollab.com:
You should ask your hosting provider to install those for you, probably
they will do without much problem. Or, if they don't want to, you should
consider choosing another provider.
If it is an issue, does anyone know of a hosting provider that allows these
extensions?
JTL does...
http://www.jtlnet.com/
Their php info page
http://www.jtlnet.com/phpinfo.php
--
John C. Nichel
ÜberGeek
KegWorks.com
716.856.9675
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
--
PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/)
To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php


Re: [PHP] hosting provider won't enable ftp_connect()

2004-08-10 Thread Brian Anderson
Thanks, both John and Jay. I will take a look at both those sites.

Regards,

-Brian Anderson

From: John Nichel [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2004 9:50 AM
Subject: Re: [PHP] hosting provider won't enable ftp_connect()


 Brian Anderson wrote:
  I am trying to get a hosting provider(Godaddy.com) to enable the
ftp_connect
  extensions to php. They tell me that they cannot do so for security
reasons.
  Is this really such a security issue?
 
  At php.net I read the advice:
 
  for ftp to work you must do ./configure --enable-ftp in php4
 
  ...and from phpcollab.com:
 
  You should ask your hosting provider to install those for you, probably
  they will do without much problem. Or, if they don't want to, you should
  consider choosing another provider.
 
  If it is an issue, does anyone know of a hosting provider that allows
these
  extensions?

 JTL does...

 http://www.jtlnet.com/

 Their php info page

 http://www.jtlnet.com/phpinfo.php

 -- 
 John C. Nichel
 ÜberGeek
 KegWorks.com
 716.856.9675
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 -- 
 PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/)
 To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php



-- 
PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/)
To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php



Re: [PHP] hosting provider won't enable ftp_connect()

2004-08-10 Thread Robby Russell
http://www.planetargon.com/hosting/

;-)

On Tue, 2004-08-10 at 07:41, Brian Anderson wrote:
 I am trying to get a hosting provider(Godaddy.com) to enable the ftp_connect
 extensions to php. They tell me that they cannot do so for security reasons.
 Is this really such a security issue?
 
 At php.net I read the advice:
 
 for ftp to work you must do ./configure --enable-ftp in php4
 
 ...and from phpcollab.com:
 
 You should ask your hosting provider to install those for you, probably
 they will do without much problem. Or, if they don't want to, you should
 consider choosing another provider.
 
 If it is an issue, does anyone know of a hosting provider that allows these
 extensions?
 
 -Brian Anderson
-- 
/***
* Robby Russell | Owner.Developer.Geek
* PLANET ARGON  | www.planetargon.com
* Portland, OR  | [EMAIL PROTECTED]
* 503.351.4730  | blog.planetargon.com
* PHP/PostgreSQL Hosting  Development
/

-- 
PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/)
To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php



Re: [PHP] hosting provider won't enable ftp_connect()

2004-08-10 Thread Randall Perry
We should be able to do that for you -- we're developer-friendly 8^)

Check out our hosting plans at
http://systame.com/html/web_hosting_plans.html.


 I am trying to get a hosting provider(Godaddy.com) to enable the ftp_connect
 extensions to php. They tell me that they cannot do so for security reasons.
 Is this really such a security issue?
 
 At php.net I read the advice:
 
 for ftp to work you must do ./configure --enable-ftp in php4
 
 ...and from phpcollab.com:
 
 You should ask your hosting provider to install those for you, probably
 they will do without much problem. Or, if they don't want to, you should
 consider choosing another provider.
 
 If it is an issue, does anyone know of a hosting provider that allows these
 extensions?
 
 -Brian Anderson

-- 
Randall Perry
sysTame

Xserve Web Hosting/Co-location
Website Design/Development
WebObjects Hosting
Mac Consulting/Sales

http://www.systame.com/



 I am trying to get a hosting provider(Godaddy.com) to enable the ftp_connect
 extensions to php. They tell me that they cannot do so for security reasons.
 Is this really such a security issue?
 
 At php.net I read the advice:
 
 for ftp to work you must do ./configure --enable-ftp in php4
 
 ...and from phpcollab.com:
 
 You should ask your hosting provider to install those for you, probably
 they will do without much problem. Or, if they don't want to, you should
 consider choosing another provider.
 
 If it is an issue, does anyone know of a hosting provider that allows these
 extensions?
 
 -Brian Anderson

-- 
Randall Perry
sysTame

Xserve Web Hosting/Co-location
Website Design/Development
WebObjects Hosting
Mac Consulting/Sales

http://www.systame.com/

-- 
PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/)
To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php



Re: [PHP] hosting provider won't enable ftp_connect()

2004-08-10 Thread Brian Anderson
Hey all,

Thanks all for the  good reference links. I will see what they offer. Bummed
if I have to switch hosts, because I have been happy with Godaddy in
general.
:)

-Brian

-- 
PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/)
To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php



Re: [PHP] hosting provider won't enable ftp_connect()

2004-08-10 Thread Afan Pasalic
try the best hosting company: www.pair.com
their prices are not low but they are definitely professionals.
afan
At 10:47 AM 8/10/2004, Randall Perry wrote:
We should be able to do that for you -- we're developer-friendly 8^)
Check out our hosting plans at
http://systame.com/html/web_hosting_plans.html.
 I am trying to get a hosting provider(Godaddy.com) to enable the 
ftp_connect
 extensions to php. They tell me that they cannot do so for security 
reasons.
 Is this really such a security issue?

 At php.net I read the advice:

 for ftp to work you must do ./configure --enable-ftp in php4

 ...and from phpcollab.com:

 You should ask your hosting provider to install those for you, probably
 they will do without much problem. Or, if they don't want to, you should
 consider choosing another provider.

 If it is an issue, does anyone know of a hosting provider that allows these
 extensions?

 -Brian Anderson

--
Randall Perry
sysTame
Xserve Web Hosting/Co-location
Website Design/Development
WebObjects Hosting
Mac Consulting/Sales
http://www.systame.com/

 I am trying to get a hosting provider(Godaddy.com) to enable the 
ftp_connect
 extensions to php. They tell me that they cannot do so for security 
reasons.
 Is this really such a security issue?

 At php.net I read the advice:

 for ftp to work you must do ./configure --enable-ftp in php4

 ...and from phpcollab.com:

 You should ask your hosting provider to install those for you, probably
 they will do without much problem. Or, if they don't want to, you should
 consider choosing another provider.

 If it is an issue, does anyone know of a hosting provider that allows these
 extensions?

 -Brian Anderson

--
Randall Perry
sysTame
Xserve Web Hosting/Co-location
Website Design/Development
WebObjects Hosting
Mac Consulting/Sales
http://www.systame.com/
--
PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/)
To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
--
PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/)
To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php


Re: [PHP] hosting provider won't enable ftp_connect()

2004-08-10 Thread Justin Patrin
On Tue, 10 Aug 2004 09:41:45 -0500, Brian Anderson
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I am trying to get a hosting provider(Godaddy.com) to enable the ftp_connect
 extensions to php. They tell me that they cannot do so for security reasons.
 Is this really such a security issue?
 

I don't see how it would be a security problem. They probably just
don't understand and think you want FTP access to the server. Allowing
outbound FTP is only an issue if people sniff the network because they
can see your login in plaintext.

I thought there were PEAR packages which implemented the FTP protocol,
but it looks like they use the FTP functions in PHP. You can try to
find a PHP class which actually implements the FTP protocol (with
sockets). You may be able to find one. If not, you'll have to switch.

 At php.net I read the advice:
 
 for ftp to work you must do ./configure --enable-ftp in php4
 
 and from phpcollab.com:
 
 You should ask your hosting provider to install those for you, probably
 they will do without much problem. Or, if they don't want to, you should
 consider choosing another provider.
 
 If it is an issue, does anyone know of a hosting provider that allows these
 extensions?
 
 -Brian Anderson
 
 --
 PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/)
 To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
 


-- 
DB_DataObject_FormBuilder - The database at your fingertips
http://pear.php.net/package/DB_DataObject_FormBuilder

paperCrane --Justin Patrin--

-- 
PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/)
To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php



Re: [PHP] hosting provider won't enable ftp_connect()

2004-08-10 Thread Jason Wong
On Wednesday 11 August 2004 00:48, Justin Patrin wrote:

 I don't see how it would be a security problem. They probably just
 don't understand and think you want FTP access to the server. 

Huh? Isn't FTP the usual mechanism for accessing your shared hosting space?

 Allowing
 outbound FTP is only an issue if people sniff the network because they
 can see your login in plaintext.

Actually any plain old ftp is subject sniffing. A better solution is to use 
chrooted ssh accounts. There are enough clients out there which supports file 
transfers over ssh to make this practical.

-- 
Jason Wong - Gremlins Associates - www.gremlins.biz
Open Source Software Systems Integrators
* Web Design  Hosting * Internet  Intranet Applications Development *
--
Search the list archives before you post
http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=php-general
--
/*
He who attacks the fundamentals of the American broadcasting industry
attacks democracy itself.
-- William S. Paley, chairman of CBS
*/

-- 
PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/)
To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php



Re: [PHP] hosting provider won't enable ftp_connect()

2004-08-10 Thread Justin Patrin
On Wed, 11 Aug 2004 01:12:40 +0800, Jason Wong [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Wednesday 11 August 2004 00:48, Justin Patrin wrote:
 
  I don't see how it would be a security problem. They probably just
  don't understand and think you want FTP access to the server.
 
 Huh? Isn't FTP the usual mechanism for accessing your shared hosting space?
 

It may be. It shouldn't be, though. SFTP at the very least. Getting
someone's FTP login is pretty easy compared to something secure.

  Allowing
  outbound FTP is only an issue if people sniff the network because they
  can see your login in plaintext.
 
 Actually any plain old ftp is subject sniffing. A better solution is to use
 chrooted ssh accounts. There are enough clients out there which supports file
 transfers over ssh to make this practical.

I realize that any FTP can be sniffed. I was speaking to his host not
wanting to allow the FTP command on the server, which would mean
outgoing FTP requests.

Yes, it should all be SSL based.

 
 --
 Jason Wong - Gremlins Associates - www.gremlins.biz
 Open Source Software Systems Integrators
 * Web Design  Hosting * Internet  Intranet Applications Development *
 --
 Search the list archives before you post
 http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=php-general
 --
 /*
 He who attacks the fundamentals of the American broadcasting industry
 attacks democracy itself.
 -- William S. Paley, chairman of CBS
 */
 
 --
 PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/)
 To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
 
 
 !DSPAM:411906b964891092692678!
 
 


-- 
DB_DataObject_FormBuilder - The database at your fingertips
http://pear.php.net/package/DB_DataObject_FormBuilder

paperCrane --Justin Patrin--

-- 
PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/)
To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php