[PHP] hosting provider won't enable ftp_connect()
I am trying to get a hosting provider(Godaddy.com) to enable the ftp_connect extensions to php. They tell me that they cannot do so for security reasons. Is this really such a security issue? At php.net I read the advice: for ftp to work you must do ./configure --enable-ftp in php4 ...and from phpcollab.com: You should ask your hosting provider to install those for you, probably they will do without much problem. Or, if they don't want to, you should consider choosing another provider. If it is an issue, does anyone know of a hosting provider that allows these extensions? -Brian Anderson -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
RE: [PHP] hosting provider won't enable ftp_connect()
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Re: [PHP] hosting provider won't enable ftp_connect()
Brian Anderson wrote: I am trying to get a hosting provider(Godaddy.com) to enable the ftp_connect extensions to php. They tell me that they cannot do so for security reasons. Is this really such a security issue? At php.net I read the advice: for ftp to work you must do ./configure --enable-ftp in php4 ...and from phpcollab.com: You should ask your hosting provider to install those for you, probably they will do without much problem. Or, if they don't want to, you should consider choosing another provider. If it is an issue, does anyone know of a hosting provider that allows these extensions? JTL does... http://www.jtlnet.com/ Their php info page http://www.jtlnet.com/phpinfo.php -- John C. Nichel ÜberGeek KegWorks.com 716.856.9675 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
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Thanks, both John and Jay. I will take a look at both those sites. Regards, -Brian Anderson From: John Nichel [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2004 9:50 AM Subject: Re: [PHP] hosting provider won't enable ftp_connect() Brian Anderson wrote: I am trying to get a hosting provider(Godaddy.com) to enable the ftp_connect extensions to php. They tell me that they cannot do so for security reasons. Is this really such a security issue? At php.net I read the advice: for ftp to work you must do ./configure --enable-ftp in php4 ...and from phpcollab.com: You should ask your hosting provider to install those for you, probably they will do without much problem. Or, if they don't want to, you should consider choosing another provider. If it is an issue, does anyone know of a hosting provider that allows these extensions? JTL does... http://www.jtlnet.com/ Their php info page http://www.jtlnet.com/phpinfo.php -- John C. Nichel ÜberGeek KegWorks.com 716.856.9675 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] hosting provider won't enable ftp_connect()
http://www.planetargon.com/hosting/ ;-) On Tue, 2004-08-10 at 07:41, Brian Anderson wrote: I am trying to get a hosting provider(Godaddy.com) to enable the ftp_connect extensions to php. They tell me that they cannot do so for security reasons. Is this really such a security issue? At php.net I read the advice: for ftp to work you must do ./configure --enable-ftp in php4 ...and from phpcollab.com: You should ask your hosting provider to install those for you, probably they will do without much problem. Or, if they don't want to, you should consider choosing another provider. If it is an issue, does anyone know of a hosting provider that allows these extensions? -Brian Anderson -- /*** * Robby Russell | Owner.Developer.Geek * PLANET ARGON | www.planetargon.com * Portland, OR | [EMAIL PROTECTED] * 503.351.4730 | blog.planetargon.com * PHP/PostgreSQL Hosting Development / -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] hosting provider won't enable ftp_connect()
We should be able to do that for you -- we're developer-friendly 8^) Check out our hosting plans at http://systame.com/html/web_hosting_plans.html. I am trying to get a hosting provider(Godaddy.com) to enable the ftp_connect extensions to php. They tell me that they cannot do so for security reasons. Is this really such a security issue? At php.net I read the advice: for ftp to work you must do ./configure --enable-ftp in php4 ...and from phpcollab.com: You should ask your hosting provider to install those for you, probably they will do without much problem. Or, if they don't want to, you should consider choosing another provider. If it is an issue, does anyone know of a hosting provider that allows these extensions? -Brian Anderson -- Randall Perry sysTame Xserve Web Hosting/Co-location Website Design/Development WebObjects Hosting Mac Consulting/Sales http://www.systame.com/ I am trying to get a hosting provider(Godaddy.com) to enable the ftp_connect extensions to php. They tell me that they cannot do so for security reasons. Is this really such a security issue? At php.net I read the advice: for ftp to work you must do ./configure --enable-ftp in php4 ...and from phpcollab.com: You should ask your hosting provider to install those for you, probably they will do without much problem. Or, if they don't want to, you should consider choosing another provider. If it is an issue, does anyone know of a hosting provider that allows these extensions? -Brian Anderson -- Randall Perry sysTame Xserve Web Hosting/Co-location Website Design/Development WebObjects Hosting Mac Consulting/Sales http://www.systame.com/ -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
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Hey all, Thanks all for the good reference links. I will see what they offer. Bummed if I have to switch hosts, because I have been happy with Godaddy in general. :) -Brian -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] hosting provider won't enable ftp_connect()
try the best hosting company: www.pair.com their prices are not low but they are definitely professionals. afan At 10:47 AM 8/10/2004, Randall Perry wrote: We should be able to do that for you -- we're developer-friendly 8^) Check out our hosting plans at http://systame.com/html/web_hosting_plans.html. I am trying to get a hosting provider(Godaddy.com) to enable the ftp_connect extensions to php. They tell me that they cannot do so for security reasons. Is this really such a security issue? At php.net I read the advice: for ftp to work you must do ./configure --enable-ftp in php4 ...and from phpcollab.com: You should ask your hosting provider to install those for you, probably they will do without much problem. Or, if they don't want to, you should consider choosing another provider. If it is an issue, does anyone know of a hosting provider that allows these extensions? -Brian Anderson -- Randall Perry sysTame Xserve Web Hosting/Co-location Website Design/Development WebObjects Hosting Mac Consulting/Sales http://www.systame.com/ I am trying to get a hosting provider(Godaddy.com) to enable the ftp_connect extensions to php. They tell me that they cannot do so for security reasons. Is this really such a security issue? At php.net I read the advice: for ftp to work you must do ./configure --enable-ftp in php4 ...and from phpcollab.com: You should ask your hosting provider to install those for you, probably they will do without much problem. Or, if they don't want to, you should consider choosing another provider. If it is an issue, does anyone know of a hosting provider that allows these extensions? -Brian Anderson -- Randall Perry sysTame Xserve Web Hosting/Co-location Website Design/Development WebObjects Hosting Mac Consulting/Sales http://www.systame.com/ -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] hosting provider won't enable ftp_connect()
On Tue, 10 Aug 2004 09:41:45 -0500, Brian Anderson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am trying to get a hosting provider(Godaddy.com) to enable the ftp_connect extensions to php. They tell me that they cannot do so for security reasons. Is this really such a security issue? I don't see how it would be a security problem. They probably just don't understand and think you want FTP access to the server. Allowing outbound FTP is only an issue if people sniff the network because they can see your login in plaintext. I thought there were PEAR packages which implemented the FTP protocol, but it looks like they use the FTP functions in PHP. You can try to find a PHP class which actually implements the FTP protocol (with sockets). You may be able to find one. If not, you'll have to switch. At php.net I read the advice: for ftp to work you must do ./configure --enable-ftp in php4 and from phpcollab.com: You should ask your hosting provider to install those for you, probably they will do without much problem. Or, if they don't want to, you should consider choosing another provider. If it is an issue, does anyone know of a hosting provider that allows these extensions? -Brian Anderson -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php -- DB_DataObject_FormBuilder - The database at your fingertips http://pear.php.net/package/DB_DataObject_FormBuilder paperCrane --Justin Patrin-- -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
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On Wednesday 11 August 2004 00:48, Justin Patrin wrote: I don't see how it would be a security problem. They probably just don't understand and think you want FTP access to the server. Huh? Isn't FTP the usual mechanism for accessing your shared hosting space? Allowing outbound FTP is only an issue if people sniff the network because they can see your login in plaintext. Actually any plain old ftp is subject sniffing. A better solution is to use chrooted ssh accounts. There are enough clients out there which supports file transfers over ssh to make this practical. -- Jason Wong - Gremlins Associates - www.gremlins.biz Open Source Software Systems Integrators * Web Design Hosting * Internet Intranet Applications Development * -- Search the list archives before you post http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=php-general -- /* He who attacks the fundamentals of the American broadcasting industry attacks democracy itself. -- William S. Paley, chairman of CBS */ -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] hosting provider won't enable ftp_connect()
On Wed, 11 Aug 2004 01:12:40 +0800, Jason Wong [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wednesday 11 August 2004 00:48, Justin Patrin wrote: I don't see how it would be a security problem. They probably just don't understand and think you want FTP access to the server. Huh? Isn't FTP the usual mechanism for accessing your shared hosting space? It may be. It shouldn't be, though. SFTP at the very least. Getting someone's FTP login is pretty easy compared to something secure. Allowing outbound FTP is only an issue if people sniff the network because they can see your login in plaintext. Actually any plain old ftp is subject sniffing. A better solution is to use chrooted ssh accounts. There are enough clients out there which supports file transfers over ssh to make this practical. I realize that any FTP can be sniffed. I was speaking to his host not wanting to allow the FTP command on the server, which would mean outgoing FTP requests. Yes, it should all be SSL based. -- Jason Wong - Gremlins Associates - www.gremlins.biz Open Source Software Systems Integrators * Web Design Hosting * Internet Intranet Applications Development * -- Search the list archives before you post http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=php-general -- /* He who attacks the fundamentals of the American broadcasting industry attacks democracy itself. -- William S. Paley, chairman of CBS */ -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php !DSPAM:411906b964891092692678! -- DB_DataObject_FormBuilder - The database at your fingertips http://pear.php.net/package/DB_DataObject_FormBuilder paperCrane --Justin Patrin-- -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php