Re: [PHP] how to post a question?

2005-07-25 Thread Jochem Maas

Ryan A wrote:

Hey Rich,



The str_replace calls are kinda expensive IMHO, a good regex would be
better




I'd be interested to see a benchmark (any benchmark) where str_replace is
SLOWER than the corresponding Regex...



I am not very good with RegEx's myself, and I have never benchmarked any of
them but
I was told or read (when i first started learning php) that using multiple
str_replace()s are
not a good idea and to use a regex instead.
(Thats why I wrote the IMHO,if i was wrong one of the gurus here could
correct me)

It kind of makes sense, for example using this from the php site:

$phrase  = You should eat fruits, vegetables, and fiber every day.;
$healthy = array(fruits, vegetables, fiber);
$yummy  = array(pizza, beer, ice cream);

$newphrase = str_replace($healthy, $yummy, $phrase);

in the above, first it searches the entire phrase for the first parameter
(fruits) then it starts
again fro the second parameter (vegetables) etc, if you have a really long
text it could
be quite process intensivebecause it would have to go through the whole
text searching for
the parameters one by oneright?

You're the guy who usually helps me (and a whole lot of others) when we have
questions


isn't he just! :-) I have to wonder how long his keyboards last ;-), or
whether he retro-fits them with smoke alarms (speedtyping - overheating -
fire)


so I am really interested on your view on this, and why your view favours
one side more than
the other.


regexps require a complete engine (in the same way as PHP is a engine)
in order to be parsed. loading/initializing such an engine is heavier than 
doing a 'simple'
search and replace action performance results (between str_replace() and 
pre_replace()) will
definitely be skewed when comparing simple regexps against a comparable 
str_replace()
because (to start with) the overhead of calling a function in php (which is why 
its better
to call str_replace() with arrays in param 1 and 2 rather than calling 
str_replace()
multiple times)

...also sporadic CPU load due to totally unrelated processes (even when running 
on
your local machine) can totally skew a benchmark test.

I think you can trust Richard on this one!
and if you don't ... :-) ... then I bet you a beer he'd say we'll then, why not
test it and see!





Cheers,
Ryan



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Re: [PHP] how to post a question?

2005-07-24 Thread Richard Lynch
On Fri, July 22, 2005 10:11 am, Ryan A said:
 The str_replace calls are kinda expensive IMHO, a good regex would be
 better

I'd be interested to see a benchmark (any benchmark) where str_replace is
SLOWER than the corresponding Regex...

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Re: [PHP] how to post a question?

2005-07-24 Thread Ryan A
Hey Rich,

  The str_replace calls are kinda expensive IMHO, a good regex would be
  better

 I'd be interested to see a benchmark (any benchmark) where str_replace is
 SLOWER than the corresponding Regex...

I am not very good with RegEx's myself, and I have never benchmarked any of
them but
I was told or read (when i first started learning php) that using multiple
str_replace()s are
not a good idea and to use a regex instead.
(Thats why I wrote the IMHO,if i was wrong one of the gurus here could
correct me)

It kind of makes sense, for example using this from the php site:

$phrase  = You should eat fruits, vegetables, and fiber every day.;
$healthy = array(fruits, vegetables, fiber);
$yummy  = array(pizza, beer, ice cream);

$newphrase = str_replace($healthy, $yummy, $phrase);

in the above, first it searches the entire phrase for the first parameter
(fruits) then it starts
again fro the second parameter (vegetables) etc, if you have a really long
text it could
be quite process intensivebecause it would have to go through the whole
text searching for
the parameters one by oneright?

You're the guy who usually helps me (and a whole lot of others) when we have
questions
so I am really interested on your view on this, and why your view favours
one side more than
the other.

Cheers,
Ryan

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[PHP] how to post a question?

2005-07-22 Thread Chirantan Ghosh
I was wondering how can I ask a question to the other subscribers?


Re: [PHP] how to post a question?

2005-07-22 Thread John Nichel

Chirantan Ghosh wrote:

I was wondering how can I ask a question to the other subscribers?



Don't look know but, you just did.

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RE: [PHP] how to post a question?

2005-07-22 Thread Shaw, Chris - Accenture

Posting a question on how to post a question.

:)

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Re: [PHP] how to post a question?

2005-07-22 Thread eoghan

Shaw, Chris - Accenture wrote:

Posting a question on how to post a question.

:)


you gotta start somewhere

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Re: [PHP] how to post a question?

2005-07-22 Thread Ryan A
 I was wondering how can I ask a question to the other subscribers?

Dude, when you figure it out let me know too...

:-p

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Re: [PHP] how to post a question?

2005-07-22 Thread Alan Milnes

Chirantan Ghosh wrote:


I was wondering how can I ask a question to the other subscribers?

 


Try reading this first:-

http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html

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Re: [PHP] how to post a question?

2005-07-22 Thread Chirantan Ghosh

Hi Alan  Everybody who wasted time to read my 1st Letter,

SORRY guys, I do deserve the scorn but it was genuine mistake I didn't want 
to post garbage bugging other people.
I was under the impression that I was mailing to the HELP DESK( nonliving 
resp system).


If you can, Please do help me in my real PHP issue:
===
I am trying to print a remote header menu in a html page without frames.
The client side JS in located in this htm. ( 
http://www.dtcc.com/ThoughtLeadership/menu.htm )
I tried both INCLUDE, REQUIRE  with no avail. I am  a complete novice 
beginner so can anyone help me a bit please?


The code I tried:
==

/HEAD
BODY BGCOLOR=#FF background=images/bgb.gif LEFTMARGIN=0 TOPMARGIN=0
MARGINWIDTH=0 MARGINHEIGHT=0
table width=778 border=0 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=0
 tr
   td background=images/1_12.gif
?php

   $filename = 'http://www.dtcc.com/ThoughtLeadership/menu.htm';
   print getRandomLine($filename);

   function getRandomLine($filename)
   {
   global $errors;

 if (file_exists($filename)) {

   mt_srand ((double) microtime() * 100);
   $lines = file($filename);

   $line_number = mt_rand(0,sizeof($lines)-1);
   return $lines[$line_number];

 } else {
   $errors['getRandomLine'][] = File: $filename not found;
   return FALSE;
 }
   }
 ?
/td
 /tr
 tr
   td width=778 background=images/1_12.gifnbsp;/td

... On it Goes


Can you please let me know why can't print the remote HTM  in the current 
page (Though it is in a different domain)?


Thanks,
Chirantan
NYC

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From: Alan Milnes [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Cc: php-general@lists.php.net
Sent: Friday, July 22, 2005 10:47 AM
Subject: Re: [PHP] how to post a question?



Chirantan Ghosh wrote:


I was wondering how can I ask a question to the other subscribers?



Try reading this first:-

http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html

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Re: [PHP] how to post a question?

2005-07-22 Thread Edward Vermillion

Chirantan Ghosh wrote:

Hi Alan  Everybody who wasted time to read my 1st Letter,

SORRY guys, I do deserve the scorn but it was genuine mistake I didn't 
want to post garbage bugging other people.
I was under the impression that I was mailing to the HELP DESK( 
nonliving resp system).


If you can, Please do help me in my real PHP issue:
===
I am trying to print a remote header menu in a html page without frames.
The client side JS in located in this htm. ( 
http://www.dtcc.com/ThoughtLeadership/menu.htm )
I tried both INCLUDE, REQUIRE  with no avail. I am  a complete novice 
beginner so can anyone help me a bit please?


The code I tried:
==

/HEAD
BODY BGCOLOR=#FF background=images/bgb.gif LEFTMARGIN=0 TOPMARGIN=0
MARGINWIDTH=0 MARGINHEIGHT=0
table width=778 border=0 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=0
 tr
   td background=images/1_12.gif
?php

   $filename = 'http://www.dtcc.com/ThoughtLeadership/menu.htm';
   print getRandomLine($filename);

   function getRandomLine($filename)
   {
   global $errors;

 if (file_exists($filename)) {

   mt_srand ((double) microtime() * 100);
   $lines = file($filename);

   $line_number = mt_rand(0,sizeof($lines)-1);
   return $lines[$line_number];

 } else {
   $errors['getRandomLine'][] = File: $filename not found;
   return FALSE;
 }
   }
 ?
/td
 /tr
 tr
   td width=778 background=images/1_12.gifnbsp;/td

... On it Goes


Can you please let me know why can't print the remote HTM  in the 
current page (Though it is in a different domain)?


Thanks,
Chirantan
NYC

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Cc: php-general@lists.php.net
Sent: Friday, July 22, 2005 10:47 AM
Subject: Re: [PHP] how to post a question?



Chirantan Ghosh wrote:


I was wondering how can I ask a question to the other subscribers?



Try reading this first:-

http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html

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Just out of curiosity, why are you just printing a random line from the 
file?


Then the next question is do you have your error reporting turned up:

error_reporting(E_ALL);

and display_errors = On in php.ini, only for a development server, or at 
least a log file to look at, for a production server?


I'm going to assume that you've checked the source of your script output 
and the random line isn't where you thout it would be?


The best thing to do would be to just print out the lines/files you are 
trying to get, without the rest of the HTML, to see what your getting 
from just the part your having trouble with.


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Re: [PHP] how to post a question?

2005-07-22 Thread Nadim Attari
 Posting a question on how to post a question.

Here it goes:
http://www.collectionscanada.ca/obj/h9/f1/284-v3.jpg

Just put your hand on top of it and say ABRACADABRA

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Re: [PHP] how to post a question?

2005-07-22 Thread Pascual De Ruvo
You just did it

On 7/22/05, Chirantan Ghosh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 I was wondering how can I ask a question to the other subscribers?
 



Re: [PHP] how to post a question?

2005-07-22 Thread Chirantan Ghosh

Hi Edward,

I would simply like to print the remote Menu page( 
http://www.dtcc.com/ThoughtLeadership/menu.htm ) in a new page.
I did the Error report print because I had no idea for what reason my PHP 
code was working.


The menu is used  as a header as well(the root file is JS which I can't use 
as I don't know all the directories  of dtcc.com )
I am simply trying to impress a non technical person of the company so I can 
get a design contract.


How can print the menu in different domain html pages? ( I would like to use 
PHP as server  language)


Thanks,
Chirantan

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From: Edward Vermillion [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: php-general@lists.php.net
Cc: Alan Milnes [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, July 22, 2005 11:20 AM
Subject: Re: [PHP] how to post a question?



Chirantan Ghosh wrote:

Hi Alan  Everybody who wasted time to read my 1st Letter,

SORRY guys, I do deserve the scorn but it was genuine mistake I didn't 
want to post garbage bugging other people.
I was under the impression that I was mailing to the HELP DESK( nonliving 
resp system).


If you can, Please do help me in my real PHP issue:
===
I am trying to print a remote header menu in a html page without frames.
The client side JS in located in this htm. ( 
http://www.dtcc.com/ThoughtLeadership/menu.htm )
I tried both INCLUDE, REQUIRE  with no avail. I am  a complete novice 
beginner so can anyone help me a bit please?


The code I tried:
==

/HEAD
BODY BGCOLOR=#FF background=images/bgb.gif LEFTMARGIN=0 
TOPMARGIN=0

MARGINWIDTH=0 MARGINHEIGHT=0
table width=778 border=0 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=0
 tr
   td background=images/1_12.gif
?php

   $filename = 'http://www.dtcc.com/ThoughtLeadership/menu.htm';
   print getRandomLine($filename);

   function getRandomLine($filename)
   {
   global $errors;

 if (file_exists($filename)) {

   mt_srand ((double) microtime() * 100);
   $lines = file($filename);

   $line_number = mt_rand(0,sizeof($lines)-1);
   return $lines[$line_number];

 } else {
   $errors['getRandomLine'][] = File: $filename not found;
   return FALSE;
 }
   }
 ?
/td
 /tr
 tr
   td width=778 background=images/1_12.gifnbsp;/td

... On it Goes


Can you please let me know why can't print the remote HTM  in the current 
page (Though it is in a different domain)?


Thanks,
Chirantan
NYC

- Original Message - From: Alan Milnes [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: php-general@lists.php.net
Sent: Friday, July 22, 2005 10:47 AM
Subject: Re: [PHP] how to post a question?



Chirantan Ghosh wrote:


I was wondering how can I ask a question to the other subscribers?



Try reading this first:-

http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html

Alan

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Just out of curiosity, why are you just printing a random line from the 
file?


Then the next question is do you have your error reporting turned up:

error_reporting(E_ALL);

and display_errors = On in php.ini, only for a development server, or at 
least a log file to look at, for a production server?


I'm going to assume that you've checked the source of your script output 
and the random line isn't where you thout it would be?


The best thing to do would be to just print out the lines/files you are 
trying to get, without the rest of the HTML, to see what your getting from 
just the part your having trouble with.


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Re: [PHP] how to post a question?

2005-07-22 Thread Ryan A
Hey,
Getting the code from the remote site is easy enough, you just gotto find
the images now, but heres something
that should get you the basic code including the javascript:

?php
$filename =
file_get_contents('http://www.dtcc.com/ThoughtLeadership/menu.htm');
echo $filename;
?

once you have the code, start converting the relative image paths to full
image paths,
should work.

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Re: [PHP] how to post a question?

2005-07-22 Thread Chirantan Ghosh

Hi Ryan,

I tried that first  also after you wrote with no avail. ( This should be
very elemental)
=
?php
$filename =
file_get_contents('http://www.dtcc.com/ThoughtLeadership/menu.htm');
echo $filename;
?
=

I am trying this html in a local machine. I preview it Internet Explorer
(which has access to net).
Does it matter if the HTML file is not residing in a domain?( I didn't think
so but no harm asking)

Thanks a bunch for taking interest,
Chirantan


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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: php php-general@lists.php.net
Sent: Friday, July 22, 2005 12:10 PM
Subject: Re: [PHP] how to post a question?



Hey,
Getting the code from the remote site is easy enough, you just gotto find
the images now, but heres something
that should get you the basic code including the javascript:

?php
$filename =
file_get_contents('http://www.dtcc.com/ThoughtLeadership/menu.htm');
echo $filename;
?

once you have the code, start converting the relative image paths to full
image paths,
should work.

Cheers,
Ryan

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Re: [PHP] how to post a question?

2005-07-22 Thread Ryan A
Hey,
The problem might be with your php settings,
run phpinfo() and see if allow_url_fopen is set to ON

heres where i uploaded what i did so far, little more needs to be done
so that the mouseover images work:
http://php-php.com/a2ztips/test.php

The way I did it is in a *very very very dirty way*, I suggest you dump my
code and use a RegEx there (am too lazy to write one) instead of the
multiple
str_replace calls but my code should give you a good starting point.


?php
$filename =
file_get_contents('http://www.dtcc.com/ThoughtLeadership/menu.htm');
$filename= str_replace(../dtcc.css,http://www.dtcc.com/dtcc.css;,
$filename);
$filename= str_replace(images/,http://www.dtcc.com/images/;, $filename);
$filename= str_replace(/http:,http:, $filename);
$filename= str_replace(..http:,http:, $filename);

echo $filename;
?

Cheers,
Ryan

On 7/22/2005 6:11:27 PM, Chirantan Ghosh ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
 Hi Ryan,

 I tried that first  also after you wrote with no avail. ( This should be

 very elemental)
 =
 ?php
 $filename =
 file_get_contents('http://www.dtcc.com/ThoughtLeadership/menu.htm');
 echo $filename;
 ?
 =

 I am trying this html in a local machine. I preview it Internet Explorer
 (which has access to net).
 Does it matter if the HTML file is not residing in a domain?( I
 didn't think
 so but no harm asking)

 Thanks a bunch for taking interest,
 Chirantan

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 From: Ryan A [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Cc: php php-general@lists.php.net
 Sent: Friday, July 22, 2005 12:10 PM
 Subject: Re: [PHP] how to post a question?


  Hey,
  Getting the code from the remote site is easy enough, you just gotto
find
  the images now, but heres something
  that should get you the basic code including the javascript:
 
  ?php
  $filename =
  file_get_contents('http://www.
 dtcc.com/ThoughtLeadership/menu.htm');
  echo $filename;
  ?
 
  once you have the code, start convert

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Re: [PHP] how to post a question?

2005-07-22 Thread Edward Vermillion

Chirantan Ghosh wrote:

Hi Edward,

I would simply like to print the remote Menu page( 
http://www.dtcc.com/ThoughtLeadership/menu.htm ) in a new page.
I did the Error report print because I had no idea for what reason my 
PHP code was working.


The menu is used  as a header as well(the root file is JS which I can't 
use as I don't know all the directories  of dtcc.com )
I am simply trying to impress a non technical person of the company so I 
can get a design contract.


How can print the menu in different domain html pages? ( I would like to 
use PHP as server  language)


Thanks,
Chirantan



First try this:

?php

print 
htmlentities(file_get_contents('http://www.dtcc.com/ThoughtLeadership/menu.htm'));


?

That will let you see the HTML in your browser. If you don't get 
anything then either your request is being blocked by a firewall or you 
don't have fopen wrappers enabled. I'm betting on the latter though.


Are you running a local install of php or through a remote server? You 
should be generating some kind of errors if your not getting anything back.


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Re: [PHP] how to post a question?

2005-07-22 Thread Ryan A
Hey,
Some more _dirty code_ as posted on http://php-php.com/a2ztips/test.php,

?php

$filename =
file_get_contents('http://www.dtcc.com/ThoughtLeadership/menu.htm');

$o=array(../dtcc.css,images/,/http,..http:);
$n=array(http://www.dtcc.com/dtcc.css,http://www.dtcc.com/ThoughtLeadersh
ip/images/,http,http:);
$filename = str_replace($o, $n, $filename);

$old =
array(http://www.dtcc.com/ThoughtLeadership/images/dtcc_banner_logo.gif;,
http://www.dtcc.com/ThoughtLeadership/images/dtcc_banner_top_middle.jpg;,
http://www.dtcc.com/ThoughtLeadership/images/banner_topright.jpg,http://w
ww.dtcc.com/ThoughtLeadership/images/thoughtmenu_r2_c3.jpg,http://www.dtcc
.com/ThoughtLeadership/images/searcharrow.gif);

$new  = array(http://www.dtcc.com/images/dtcc_banner_logo.gif;,
http://www.dtcc.com/images/dtcc_banner_top_middle.jpg;,
http://www.dtcc.com/images/banner_topright.jpg,http://www.dtcc.com/images
/thoughtmenu_r2_c3.jpg,http://www.dtcc.com/images/searcharrow.gif;);
$filename = str_replace($old, $new, $filename);

echo $filename;
echo done;
  ?

You would still have to replace the links to the full path instead of the
relative path that it now has.
The str_replace calls are kinda expensive IMHO, a good regex would be better
(like I said in my last mail)
another thing to note is sometimes the remote server times out or is too
slow so the script times out...

I hope this helped dude...will take down the page from there in a few hours.

Cheers,
Ryan

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Re: [PHP] how to post a question?

2005-07-22 Thread Chirantan Ghosh

Hello Edward,

I did try your approach in this page
http://www.homecare1.biz/public_html/PHPsiteTest01.html with no avail.
How would I find out if I have  fopen wrappers enabled?
This page is remote hosted ( Hosted by Godaddy.com who state I have
PHP/MySQL enabled).
CODE USED:
===
table width=778 border=0 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=0
 tr
   td
?php

print
htmlentities(file_get_contents('http://www.dtcc.com/ThoughtLeadership/menu.htm'));

?
/td
 /tr
 tr


Thanks for the help,
Chirantan


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From: Edward Vermillion [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: Chirantan Ghosh [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: php-general@lists.php.net
Sent: Friday, July 22, 2005 12:26 PM
Subject: Re: [PHP] how to post a question?



Chirantan Ghosh wrote:

Hi Edward,

I would simply like to print the remote Menu page( 
http://www.dtcc.com/ThoughtLeadership/menu.htm ) in a new page.
I did the Error report print because I had no idea for what reason my PHP 
code was working.


The menu is used  as a header as well(the root file is JS which I can't 
use as I don't know all the directories  of dtcc.com )
I am simply trying to impress a non technical person of the company so I 
can get a design contract.


How can print the menu in different domain html pages? ( I would like to 
use PHP as server  language)


Thanks,
Chirantan



First try this:

?php

print 
htmlentities(file_get_contents('http://www.dtcc.com/ThoughtLeadership/menu.htm'));


?

That will let you see the HTML in your browser. If you don't get anything 
then either your request is being blocked by a firewall or you don't have 
fopen wrappers enabled. I'm betting on the latter though.


Are you running a local install of php or through a remote server? You 
should be generating some kind of errors if your not getting anything 
back.




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Re: [PHP] how to post a question?

2005-07-22 Thread Edward Vermillion

Chirantan Ghosh wrote:

Hello Edward,

I did try your approach in this page 
http://www.homecare1.biz/public_html/PHPsiteTest01.html with no avail.

How would I find out if I have  fopen wrappers enabled?
This page is remote hosted ( Hosted by Godaddy.com who state I have 
PHP/MySQL enabled).

CODE USED:
===
table width=778 border=0 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=0
 tr
   td



All you need to have in the page is this code:

?php

print
htmlentities(file_get_contents('http://www.dtcc.com/ThoughtLeadership/menu.htm')); 



?



you don't need this either:

/td
 /tr
 tr


Thanks for the help,
Chirantan



Since it's a remote server, it's quite lilely that they've disabled 
fopen wrappers. It can be a security concern for hosting providers. All 
you can do is ask them if they allow it, they should be able to tell you 
but I really doubt that they do.


You can check what they have configured php for by running this in a page:

?php

phpinfo();

?

That should give you a pretty page with a lot of information about what 
is available for you to run through php.


Good luck!

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