Re: [PHP] [NEWBIE GUIDE] For the benefit of new members

[Cem Kayali]

Peter Ford-4 wrote:
> 
>> 
>> I was all ready to jump on Point #6 to disagree until I read the
>> next paragraph, updating that with the correct information.  PHP can
>> find out the OS of the system on which the browser is running.
>> 
> 
> Strictly speaking, PHP can only find out what the browser tells it - that
> includes the OS. I could quite easily hack the browser info string sent by
> (at
> least one of) my browsers to pretend I was using some horrible Windows
> rubbish...
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That's true... if you use ie; konquerer, and adjust settings as "send no
identification", then php script has nothing to determine browser type, OS
etc. etc. The other way to hide identification + ip address is to use proxy
servers, which is very common nowadays.

Regards,






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Re: [PHP] [NEWBIE GUIDE] For the benefit of new members

[Andrew Ballard]

On Nov 16, 2007 10:30 AM, Peter Ford <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >
> > I was all ready to jump on Point #6 to disagree until I read the
> > next paragraph, updating that with the correct information.  PHP can
> > find out the OS of the system on which the browser is running.
> >
>
> Strictly speaking, PHP can only find out what the browser tells it - that
> includes the OS. I could quite easily hack the browser info string sent by (at
> least one of) my browsers to pretend I was using some horrible Windows 
> rubbish...
>
>

I use the User-Agent Switcher add-on for Firefox for this. It's so
easy I don't even really consider it a "hack" -- it's a "feature". :-)
With it, I can not only change the UserAgent string sent in web page
requests, but I can also change the values of the userAgent, appName,
appVersion, platform, vendor and vendorSub properties of the built-in
navigator object in JavaScript.

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Re: [PHP] [NEWBIE GUIDE] For the benefit of new members

[Peter Ford]

> 
> I was all ready to jump on Point #6 to disagree until I read the
> next paragraph, updating that with the correct information.  PHP can
> find out the OS of the system on which the browser is running.
> 

Strictly speaking, PHP can only find out what the browser tells it - that
includes the OS. I could quite easily hack the browser info string sent by (at
least one of) my browsers to pretend I was using some horrible Windows 
rubbish...

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Re: [PHP] [NEWBIE GUIDE] For the benefit of new members

[Daniel Brown]

On Nov 15, 2007 11:27 PM, Paul Scott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> On Thu, 2007-11-15 at 16:45 -0500, Daniel Brown wrote:
> > > 3. There is a searchable archive of the mailing list discussion at
> > > http://phparch.com/mailinglists.
>
> or at
> http://fsiu.uwc.ac.za/index.php?module=blog&action=randblog&userid=9914070612 
> if the above is down, as it is for me right now.
>
>
> --Paul
>
>
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And before I get bitched at for that, no I didn't write it.
It was just quoted in this message and attributed to my name.

I'll gladly take the credit though.  ;-P

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Re: [PHP] [NEWBIE GUIDE] For the benefit of new members

[Paul Scott]

On Thu, 2007-11-15 at 16:45 -0500, Daniel Brown wrote:
> > 3. There is a searchable archive of the mailing list discussion at
> > http://phparch.com/mailinglists. 

or at
http://fsiu.uwc.ac.za/index.php?module=blog&action=randblog&userid=9914070612 
if the above is down, as it is for me right now.


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Re: [PHP] [NEWBIE GUIDE] For the benefit of new members

[Daniel Brown]

On Nov 15, 2007 4:07 PM, Jay Blanchard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> =
> Please feel free to add more points and send to the list.
> 20050322jb - Note the new location of PHP Editors list.
> =
>
> 1. If you have any queries/problems about PHP try
> http://www.php.net/manual/en first. You can download a copy and use it
> offline also.
>
> Please also try http://www.php.net/manual/faq.php for answers to
> frequently answered questions
> about PHP (added by Christophe Chisogne).
>
> 2. Try http://www.google.com next. Searching for "php YOUR QUERY" may
> fetch you relevant information within the first 10 results.
>
> 3. There is a searchable archive of the mailing list discussion at
> http://phparch.com/mailinglists. Many of the common topics are discussed
> repeatedly, and you may get answer to your query from the
> earlier discussions.
>
> For example: One of the repeatedly discussed question in the list is
> "Best PHP editor". Everyone has his/her favourite editor. You can get
> all the opinions by going through the list archives. If you want a
> chosen list try this link :
> http://www.thelinuxconsultancy.co.uk/phpeditors.php
> (contributed by Christophe Chisogne).
>
> 4. Not sure if PHP is working or you want find out what extensions are
> available to you?
>
> Just put the following code into a file with a .php extension and access
> it through your
> webserver:
>
>  phpinfo();
> ?>
>
> If PHP is installed you will see a page with a lot of information on it.
> If PHP is not installed (or not working correctly) your browser will try
> to download the file. (contributed by Teren and reworded by Chris W
> Parker)
>
> 5. If you are stuck with a script and do not understand what is wrong,
> instead of posting the whole script, try doing some research yourself.
> One useful trick is to print the variable/sql query using print or echo
> command and check whether you get what you expected.
>
> After diagnosing the problem, send the details of your efforts
> (following steps 1, 2 & 3) and ask for help.
>
> 6. PHP is a server side scripting language. Whatever processing PHP does
> takes place BEFORE the output reaches the client. Therefore, it is not
> possible to access users' computer related information (OS, screen size
> etc) using PHP. Nor can you modify any the user side settings. You need
> to go for JavaScript and ask the question in a JavaScript list.
>
> On the other hand, you can access the information that is SENT by the
> user's browser when a client requests a page from your server. You can
> find details about browser, OS etc as reported by this request.
> (contributed by Wouter van Vliet and reworded by Chris W Parker.)
>
> 7. Provide a clear descriptive subject line. Avoid general subjects like
> "Help!!", "A Question" etc. Especially avoid blank subjects.
>
> 8. When you want to start a new topic, open a new mail composer and
> enter the mailing list address php-general@lists.php.net instead of
> replying to an existing thread and replacing the subject and body with
> your message.
>
> 9. It's always a good idea to post back to the list once you've solved
> your problem. People usually add [SOLVED] to the subject line of their
> email when posting solutions. By posting your solution you're helping
> the next person with the same question. [contribued by Chris W Parker]
>
> 10. Ask smart questions http://catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
> [contributed by Jay Blanchard)
>
> 11. Do not send your email to the list with attachments. If you don't
> have a place to upload your code, try the many pastebin websites (such
> as www.pastebin.com). (contributed by Burhan Khalid)
>
> Following these guidelines will ensure that you get effective responses
> from the list members. Otherwise, your questions might not be answered.
>
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I was all ready to jump on Point #6 to disagree until I read the
next paragraph, updating that with the correct information.  PHP can
find out the OS of the system on which the browser is running.

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Re: [PHP] [NEWBIE GUIDE] For the benefit of new members

[Stan F]

[snip]

I feel we should add this to the rules. Dunno about the others, but it
really drives mad to delete bunches of emails with equal contents posted
within 5 minute interval.

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addition, members won't be much pleased if you flood 'em, so you decrease
your chances to get helpful answers.
If your mail server doesn't work properly, please pay attention to thousands
of decent free ones.
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Re: [PHP] [Newbie Guide] For the benefit of new members

[Greg Donald]

On Tue, 5 Oct 2004 09:55:20 +0530, Gnanavel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 8. When you want to start a new topic, open a
> new mail composer and enter the mailing list
> address [EMAIL PROTECTED] instead of
> replying to an existing thread and replacing
> the subject and body with your message.

I think it would be good to recommend the use of a "threaded" email
client when participating in the PHP mailing lists.  Most every mail
client I've ever used has this threaded message viewing capability,
people just don't seem to make use of it.  It's fairly annoying to see
someone come along days after a post is answered and provide the exact
same answer again.

Mailing list threads are best viewed as threads, not single messages.

If you need a threaded email client, I can invite you to a good one,
GMail.  Contact me off-list.


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Re: [PHP] [Newbie Guide] For the benefit of new members

[raditha dissanayake]

Jason Wong wrote:
On Tuesday 31 August 2004 07:06, Brent Clements wrote:
 

Damn, I just felt the wrath of the list even though I completely agree with
you guys, I was just pointing out some employers requirements.
   

Wrath? What wrath? You ain't seen nuthin yet. I think all we're pointing out 
is that it takes just a little common sense and a little common courtesy to 
both comply with your employee's requirements AND and the same time not annoy 
the list.
 

you aint seen nothing yet.
You will  wrath when you gently point out to someone that this is not 
the place for javascript questions, or apache questions, or mysql 
questions or questions about where to pay your traffic fine.


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Re: [PHP] [Newbie Guide] For the benefit of new members

[John Nichel]

Jason Wong wrote:
On Tuesday 31 August 2004 07:06, Brent Clements wrote:

Damn, I just felt the wrath of the list even though I completely agree with
you guys, I was just pointing out some employers requirements.

Wrath? What wrath? You ain't seen nuthin yet.
Hell hath no fury like Jason scorned. ;)
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Re: [PHP] [Newbie Guide] For the benefit of new members

[Jason Wong]

On Tuesday 31 August 2004 07:06, Brent Clements wrote:

> Damn, I just felt the wrath of the list even though I completely agree with
> you guys, I was just pointing out some employers requirements.

Wrath? What wrath? You ain't seen nuthin yet. I think all we're pointing out 
is that it takes just a little common sense and a little common courtesy to 
both comply with your employee's requirements AND and the same time not annoy 
the list.

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Re: [PHP] [Newbie Guide] For the benefit of new members

[Brent Clements]

Damn, I just felt the wrath of the list even though I completely agree with
you guys, I was just pointing out some employers requirements.

-Brent

- Original Message - 
From: "Stut" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Brent Clements" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: "PHP Mailing List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, August 30, 2004 5:16 PM
Subject: Re: [PHP] [Newbie Guide] For the benefit of new members


> On Mon, 30 Aug 2004 16:27:42 -0500, Brent Clements
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > The problem with that request is that some employers require you to have
a
> > vacation message set.
>
> Then you should temporarily unsubscribe from the list until you
> return. Vacation messages on mailing lists are more annoying than
> disclaimers.
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Re: [PHP] [Newbie Guide] For the benefit of new members

[JanetVal]

In a message dated 8/30/2004 3:10:42 PM Pacific Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
The problem with that request is that some employers require you to have a
vacation message set.

-Brent
Then you need to get off the list before you leave. You can resubscribe when 
you return.  If you need to know what was said while you were gone, you can 
read the archives.

Janet

Re: [PHP] [Newbie Guide] For the benefit of new members

[Marek Kilimajer]

Brent Clements wrote:
The problem with that request is that some employers require you to have a
vacation message set.
-Brent
The problem is that the employers use vacation programs that do not 
respect "Precedence: bulk" header.

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Re: [PHP] [Newbie Guide] For the benefit of new members

[Jim Grill]

Sounds like someone else's problem -- not the list's problem. If that's the
case, use a different email address for mailing lists. There are plenty of
free email providers out there if you can't get a spare account.

Jim Grill

> The problem with that request is that some employers require you to have a
> vacation message set.
>
> -Brent
>
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Paul Waring" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Jay Blanchard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "PHP Mailing List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Monday, August 30, 2004 3:30 PM
> Subject: Re: [PHP] [Newbie Guide] For the benefit of new members
>
>
> > Another thing I'd like to add: if you're on a public mailing list
> > don't leave a vacation message set when you go away, it's *extremely*
> > annoying.
> >
> > Paul
> >
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Re: [PHP] [Newbie Guide] For the benefit of new members

[Stut]

On Mon, 30 Aug 2004 16:27:42 -0500, Brent Clements
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> The problem with that request is that some employers require you to have a
> vacation message set.

Then you should temporarily unsubscribe from the list until you
return. Vacation messages on mailing lists are more annoying than
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Re: [PHP] [Newbie Guide] For the benefit of new members

[Jason Wong]

On Tuesday 31 August 2004 05:27, Brent Clements wrote:
> The problem with that request is that some employers require you to have a
> vacation message set.

unsubscribe and re-subscribe.

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Re: [PHP] [Newbie Guide] For the benefit of new members

[Paul Waring]

> The problem with that request is that some employers require you to have a
> vacation message set.

They can use another email account or mail from home then, it's not
like there's a shortage of free web-based email providers.

Paul

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Re: [PHP] [Newbie Guide] For the benefit of new members

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Re: [PHP] [Newbie Guide] For the benefit of new members

[Brent Clements]

The problem with that request is that some employers require you to have a
vacation message set.

-Brent

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To: "Jay Blanchard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "PHP Mailing List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, August 30, 2004 3:30 PM
Subject: Re: [PHP] [Newbie Guide] For the benefit of new members


> Another thing I'd like to add: if you're on a public mailing list
> don't leave a vacation message set when you go away, it's *extremely*
> annoying.
>
> Paul
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Re: [PHP] [Newbie Guide] For the benefit of new members

[Paul Waring]

Another thing I'd like to add: if you're on a public mailing list
don't leave a vacation message set when you go away, it's *extremely*
annoying.

Paul

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Re: [PHP] [Newbie Guide] For the benefit of new members

[raditha dissanayake]

Me thinks a note about 'if you don't follow these guidelines your 
questions will not be answered' is a good idea.

keep up the good work siva kumar.

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Re: [PHP] [Newbie Guide] For the benefit of new members

[Christophe Chisogne]

Ma Siva Kumar a écrit :
For example: One of the repeatedly discussed 
question in the list is "Best PHP editor". 
(...)
try this link : 
http://phpeditors.linuxbackup.co.uk/ 
(contributed by Christophe Chisogne).
The link has now moved (http redirect)
http://www.thelinuxconsultancy.co.uk/phpeditors/
Could you update the url in newbie guide?
ps 111 editors are listed there.
Christophe

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RE: [PHP] [Newbie Guide] For the benefit of new members

[Chris W. Parker]

Chris de Vidal 
on Thursday, April 01, 2004 7:20 AM said:

> Though I've been using newsgroups since '95 and though I'd read this
> page before, it's helpful to review it.  I can see a few mistakes I'd
> made as recently as a few months ago on another list :-)
> 
> This post's subject should read [Newbie and Experienced User Guide]
> LOL

more like "Newbie and Chris de Vidal User Guide"


talk about LOL!




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Re: [PHP] [Newbie Guide] For the benefit of new members

[Chris de Vidal]

Ma Siva Kumar said:
> 10. Ask smart questions
> http://catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html

Though I've been using newsgroups since '95 and though I'd read this page
before, it's helpful to review it.  I can see a few mistakes I'd made as
recently as a few months ago on another list :-)

This post's subject should read [Newbie and Experienced User Guide] LOL

Thanks,
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[PHP] re:[PHP] [Newbie Guide] For the benefit of new members

[Andy B]

===
This message is for the benefit of new
subscribers and those new to PHP.  Please
feel free to add more points and send to the
list.
===
1. If you have any queries/problems about PHP
try
http://www.php.net/manual/en
first. You
can download a copy and use it offline also.

Please also try
http://www.php.net/manual/faq.php

for answers to frequently answered questions
about PHP (added by Christophe Chisogne).

2. Try
http://www.google.com
next. Searching
for "php YOUR QUERY" may fetch you relevant
information within the first 10 results.

3. There is a searchable archive of the
mailing list discussion at
http://phparch.com/mailinglists.
Many of the
common topics are discussed repeatedly, and
you may get answer to your query from the
earlier discussions.

For example: One of the repeatedly discussed
question in the list is "Best PHP editor".
Everyone has his/her favourite editor.
You can get all the opinions by going through
the list archives. If you want a chosen list
try this link :
http://phpeditors.linuxbackup.co.uk/

(contributed by Christophe Chisogne).

4. Not sure if PHP is working or you want
find out what extensions are available to
you?

Just put the following code into a file with
a .php extension and access it through your
webserver:



If PHP is installed you will see a page with
a lot of information on it. If PHP is not
installed (or not working correctly) your
browser will try to download the file.

(contributed by Teren and reworded by Chris W
Parker)

5. If you are stuck with a script and do not
understand what is wrong, instead of posting
the whole script, try doing some research
yourself. One useful trick is to print
the variable/sql query using print or echo
command and check whether you get what you
expected.

After diagnosing the problem, send the
details of your efforts (following steps 1,
2 & 3) and ask for help.

6. PHP is a server side scripting language.
Whatever processing PHP does takes place
BEFORE the output reaches the client.
Therefore, it is not possible to access
users'  computer related information (OS,
screen size etc) using PHP. Nor can you
modify any the user side settings. You need
to go for JavaScript and ask the question in
a JavaScript list.

On the other hand, you can access the
information that is SENT by the user's
browser when a client requests a page from
your server. You can find details about
browser, OS etc as reported by
this request. - contributed by Wouter van
Vliet and reworded by Chris W Parker.

7. Provide a clear descriptive subject line.
Avoid general subjects like "Help!!", "A
Question" etc.  Especially avoid blank
subjects.

8. When you want to start a new topic, open a
new mail composer and enter the mailing list
address
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
instead of
replying to an existing thread and replacing
the subject and body with your message.

9. It's always a good idea to post back to
the list once you've solved your problem.
People usually add [SOLVED] to the subject
line of their email when posting solutions.
By posting your solution you're helping the
next person with the same question.
[contribued by Chris W Parker]

10. Ask smart questions
http://catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
[contributed by Jay Blanchard)

11. In versions of php prior to 4.1, $_POST doesn't exist. Instead use
$HTTP_POST_VARS array (it is the same thing just a different name). This
will solve almost any "form posting" problems to php  prior to 4.1
Hope you have a good time programming with
PHP.

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RE: [PHP] [Newbie Guide] For the benefit of new members

[Chris W. Parker]

Raditha Dissanayake 
on Sunday, December 28, 2003 8:55 PM said:

> This compilation of your is really excellent. Over the last few
> months i have noticed that many posters are cleary sending messages
> without having read your newby guide.  IMHO whenever that happens all
> of us on this list should suggest that the user should read this
> message in the archive first before responding to his query.

This sounds like an excellent idea. I hope to see you do it. :)



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Re: [PHP] [Newbie Guide] For the benefit of new members

[Raditha Dissanayake]

Hi,
Hopefully an administrator could append this to the welcome message 
that's sent to new subscribers.

Ma Siva Kumar wrote:

On Monday 29 Dec 2003 10:24 am, you wrote:
 

Hi,

This compilation of your is really excellent.
Over the last few months i have noticed that
many posters are cleary sending messages
without having read your newby guide.  IMHO
whenever that happens all of us on this list
should suggest that the user should read this
message in the archive first before responding
to his query.
   

Thanks. The idea is to send it once a week to 
catch the new subscribers with a message into 
their inbox before they commit any of the sins 
(!).  Guess, some new users slip in the gap in 
between.

Best regards,

Ma SivaKumar



 



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Re: [PHP] [Newbie Guide] For the benefit of new members

[Ma Siva Kumar]

On Monday 29 Dec 2003 10:24 am, you wrote:
> Hi,
>
> This compilation of your is really excellent.
> Over the last few months i have noticed that
> many posters are cleary sending messages
> without having read your newby guide.  IMHO
> whenever that happens all of us on this list
> should suggest that the user should read this
> message in the archive first before responding
> to his query.
>

Thanks. The idea is to send it once a week to 
catch the new subscribers with a message into 
their inbox before they commit any of the sins 
(!).  Guess, some new users slip in the gap in 
between.

Best regards,

Ma SivaKumar



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Re: [PHP] [Newbie Guide] For the benefit of new members

[Raditha Dissanayake]

Hi,

This compilation of your is really excellent. Over the last few months i 
have noticed that many posters are cleary sending messages without 
having read your newby guide.  IMHO whenever that happens all of us on 
this list should suggest that the user should read this message in the 
archive first before responding to his query.

best regards



Ma Siva Kumar wrote:

===
This message is for the benefit of new subscribers 
and those new to PHP.  Please feel free to add 
more points and send to the list.
===
 

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RE: [PHP] [Newbie Guide] For the benefit of new members

[Chris W. Parker]

Ma Siva Kumar 
on Tuesday, December 09, 2003 4:00 PM said:

> 4. Just put the following code into a file with a
> .php extension and access it through your
> webserver:
> 
>  phpinfo();
>> 
> 
> This will display tons of info if php is enabled,
> or, it will ask you to download a file if php is
> NOT enabled.  (contributed by Teren)

I think this point could do with having it's wording changed. My
suggestion:

Not sure if PHP is working or you want find out what extensions are
available to you?

Just put the following code into a file with a .php extension and access
it through your webserver:

 

If PHP is installed you will see a page with a lot of information on it.
If PHP is not installed (or not working correctly) your browser will try
to download the file.

> 6. PHP is a server side scripting language.
> Whatever processing PHP does takes
> place BEFORE the output reaches the client.
> Therefore, it is not possible to access the
> users'  computer related information (OS, screen
> size etc) using PHP. You need to go for
> JavaScript and ask the question in a JavaScript
> list.
> 
> (You can access information SENT by the user's
> browser while requesting pages from your server.
> You can get the details about browser, OS etc as
> reported by this request. - contributed by Wouter
> van Vliet)

May I proppose the following rewording for the second paragraph:

On the other hand you can access the information that is SENT by the
user's browser when a client requests a page from your server. You can
find details about browser, OS etc as reported by this request. -
contributed by Wouter van Vliet




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Re: [PHP] [Newbie Guide] For the benefit of new members

[Christophe Chisogne]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Please feel free to add more points and send to the list.
2 ideas come to my mind.

1. Add a link to the PHP FAQ in newbie guide item 1
   http://www.php.net/manual/faq.php
   Yes, it's part of the manual, but a frequent answer is
   "Read the FAQ" or less polite ones ;-)
   A FAQ link seems appropriate to me
2. Add some hints with "FFAQ" like "which PHP editor":

To get rid of the 'which PHP editor' question, why not add
the link [1] submited by Nico Berg (October 03, 2003 12:38),
as suggested by Christ W. Parker (oct 03 2003 20:38)?
It lists many (107) editors, and allow users comments:
Perhaps with a comment like "the best editor is yours",
or something like that
[1] PHP Editors by Keith Edmunds, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://phpeditors.linuxbackup.co.uk/
Strangely enough, I didnt see the editor question in the
PHP FAQ -- perhaps I did look too rapidly...
[OT] Sometime I dream of a 2-level FAQ, a first short one,
a FFAQ, which refers to a second std one, a FAQ...
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RE: [PHP] [Newbie Guide] For the benefit of new members

[Jay Blanchard]

[snip]
.02
[/snip]

A good .02 Chris. I'd add

9. Ask smart questions http://catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html

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RE: [PHP] [Newbie Guide] For the benefit of new members

[Burhan]

Quoting "Chris W. Parker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> on Monday, August 25, 2003 5:11 AM said:
> 
> > 5. Provide a clear descriptive subject line. Avoid general subjects
> > like "Help!!", "A Question" etc.
> 
> Change to:
> 
> 5. Provide a clear descriptive subject line. Avoid general subjects like
> "Help!!", "A Question", etc. Especially avoid blank subjects. Many
> people see this as rude and will ignore your mail outright, myself
> included.
> 
> 
> (Does it make sense to put "urgent help needed!" in your subject? Isn't
> everyone's email "urgent" to one degree or another?)
> 

Along these lines, you might want to add :

Do not send your messages high priority, as some people have special filters 
for such messages.

Do not request return reciepts, received reciepts, etc.

Do not send attachments

If at all possible, send your message plain text.

Trim as the original post only to the parts that are relevant to your 
discussion. No point seeing the same code repeated in five emails.

Just my thoughts

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RE: [PHP] [Newbie Guide] For the benefit of new members

[Chris W. Parker]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
on Monday, August 25, 2003 5:11 AM said:

> 5. Provide a clear descriptive subject line. Avoid general subjects
> like "Help!!", "A Question" etc.

Change to:

5. Provide a clear descriptive subject line. Avoid general subjects like
"Help!!", "A Question", etc. Especially avoid blank subjects. Many
people see this as rude and will ignore your mail outright, myself
included.


(Does it make sense to put "urgent help needed!" in your subject? Isn't
everyone's email "urgent" to one degree or another?)

8. It's always a good idea to post back to the list once you've solved
your problem. People usually add [SOLVED] to the subject line of their
email when posting solutions. By posting your solution you're helping
the next person with the same question.


.02

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