RE: [PHP] Dreaded Return-Path and mail()

2003-01-07 Thread Petre Agenbag
Almost exactly the same question as the message with subject: Sendmail
configuration

The problem you are having took me a while to grasp. Basically, what
happens is that sendmail sends the mail as the user php/apache was
installed as (usually nobody@ or apache@ yourdomain.com).
Setting the Return-Path does not work, as you cannot override the
Return-Path set by the server in this way, that's why messages bounce to
your root account when sent with a php mail() function. If you only host
one domain on a server, you can fix this by editing the sendmail.cf file
and setting the Return-Path: to something more meaningful: However, most
people don't have the luxury of having a one domain hosting solution.

Your only other option is to invoke sendmail with the -f switch:
sendmail -f sender@address recipient@address file_containing_message

This forces a from: address, but it also produces a warning to the
recipient that the message headers might be forged, but return mails and
replies are directed to the address specified.

Only problem with all this is that you need to do one of 2 things:
a) use of PHP's system commands eg.
$mail = `echo -e Subject: Subject here\n\n Message here |
/usr/sbin/sendmail -f $your_address $recipient_address`;

OR

b) use a PERL script to do it.

I am currently looking at both, and it seems at this stage that the PERL
script will be the better option, specially if you need to mail to alot
of people. You need to issue the sendmail in a loop, and for load
balancing, it's best to put a sleep() inside the loop; even if you only
make this a sleep(1) (sleep for 1 sec), PHP will timeout after only 30
recipients unless you override the default timeout setting for php
scripts.

On Tue, 2003-01-07 at 02:37, Timothy Hitchens (HiTCHO) wrote:
 Hmm... I would expect that your sendmail.cf (if you are using sendmail)
 hasn't got
 your webserver (running as eg www or apache etc) in it's trusted users
 file / listing.
 
 
 
 HiTCHO has Spoken! 
 Timothy Hitchens (HiTCHO)
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: David T-G [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
  Sent: Tuesday, 7 January 2003 10:34 AM
  To: PHP General list
  Cc: Monty
  Subject: Re: [PHP] Dreaded Return-Path and mail()
  
  
  Monty --
  
  ...and then Monty said...
  % 
  % Okay, I've read just about everything on the Internet about 
  how the change % the Return-Path header in an e-mail sent 
  using mail(), but, I STILL can't % get it to work. All e-mail 
  sent via PHP says Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] % and 
  Received: (from nobody@localhost).
  
  How interesting.
  
  What do you get if you put
  
$to = [EMAIL PROTECTED] ;
$subj = here is a subject ;
$body = this is the message body ;
$hdrs = From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]\r\nReturn-Path: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] ;
  
mail($to,$subj,$body,$hdrs) ;
  
  in a php script and execute it?  If it doesn't work, what do 
  the mail server lots on your web server say?  I just tested 
  this code on my box and it worked, so if you have problems 
  then you can figure it's your mail setup and not your code.  
  If it works, expand from there in small steps :-)
  
  
  HTH  HAND
  
  :-D
  -- 
  David T-G  * There is too much animal courage in 
  (play) [EMAIL PROTECTED] * society and not sufficient 
  moral courage.
  (work) [EMAIL PROTECTED]  -- Mary Baker Eddy, 
  Science and Health
  http://justpickone.org/davidtg/  Shpx gur Pbzzhavpngvbaf 
  Qrprapl Npg!
  
  
 
 
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RE: [PHP] Dreaded Return-Path and mail()

2003-01-07 Thread Timothy Hitchens \(HiTCHO\)
As I have said before that if you set the webserver user in as a trusted
user in the sendmail.cf file all is fixed.

You can then set a return-path etc without warnings as well.


HiTCHO has Spoken! 
Timothy Hitchens (HiTCHO)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 

 -Original Message-
 From: Petre Agenbag [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Tuesday, 7 January 2003 7:43 PM
 To: Timothy Hitchens (HiTCHO)
 Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: [PHP] Dreaded Return-Path and mail()
 
 
 Almost exactly the same question as the message with subject: 
 Sendmail configuration
 
 The problem you are having took me a while to grasp. 
 Basically, what happens is that sendmail sends the mail as 
 the user php/apache was installed as (usually nobody@ or 
 apache@ yourdomain.com). Setting the Return-Path does not 
 work, as you cannot override the Return-Path set by the 
 server in this way, that's why messages bounce to your root 
 account when sent with a php mail() function. If you only 
 host one domain on a server, you can fix this by editing the 
 sendmail.cf file and setting the Return-Path: to something 
 more meaningful: However, most people don't have the luxury 
 of having a one domain hosting solution.
 
 Your only other option is to invoke sendmail with the -f 
 switch: sendmail -f sender@address recipient@address 
 file_containing_message
 
 This forces a from: address, but it also produces a warning 
 to the recipient that the message headers might be forged, 
 but return mails and replies are directed to the address specified.
 
 Only problem with all this is that you need to do one of 2 things:
 a) use of PHP's system commands eg.
 $mail = `echo -e Subject: Subject here\n\n Message here | 
 /usr/sbin/sendmail -f $your_address $recipient_address`;
 
 OR
 
 b) use a PERL script to do it.
 
 I am currently looking at both, and it seems at this stage 
 that the PERL script will be the better option, specially if 
 you need to mail to alot of people. You need to issue the 
 sendmail in a loop, and for load balancing, it's best to put 
 a sleep() inside the loop; even if you only make this a 
 sleep(1) (sleep for 1 sec), PHP will timeout after only 30 
 recipients unless you override the default timeout setting 
 for php scripts.
 
 On Tue, 2003-01-07 at 02:37, Timothy Hitchens (HiTCHO) wrote:
  Hmm... I would expect that your sendmail.cf (if you are using 
  sendmail) hasn't got your webserver (running as eg www or 
 apache etc) 
  in it's trusted users file / listing.
  
  
  
  HiTCHO has Spoken!
  Timothy Hitchens (HiTCHO)
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  
   -Original Message-
   From: David T-G [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
   Sent: Tuesday, 7 January 2003 10:34 AM
   To: PHP General list
   Cc: Monty
   Subject: Re: [PHP] Dreaded Return-Path and mail()
   
   
   Monty --
   
   ...and then Monty said...
   %
   % Okay, I've read just about everything on the Internet about 
   how the change % the Return-Path header in an e-mail sent 
   using mail(), but, I STILL can't % get it to work. All e-mail 
   sent via PHP says Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] % and 
   Received: (from nobody@localhost).
   
   How interesting.
   
   What do you get if you put
   
 $to = [EMAIL PROTECTED] ;
 $subj = here is a subject ;
 $body = this is the message body ;
 $hdrs = From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]\r\nReturn-Path:
   [EMAIL PROTECTED] ;
   
 mail($to,$subj,$body,$hdrs) ;
   
   in a php script and execute it?  If it doesn't work, what do
   the mail server lots on your web server say?  I just tested 
   this code on my box and it worked, so if you have problems 
   then you can figure it's your mail setup and not your code.  
   If it works, expand from there in small steps :-)
   
   
   HTH  HAND
   
   :-D
   -- 
   David T-G  * There is too much animal 
 courage in 
   (play) [EMAIL PROTECTED] * society and not sufficient
   moral courage.
   (work) [EMAIL PROTECTED]  -- Mary Baker Eddy, 
   Science and Health
   http://justpickone.org/davidtg/  Shpx gur Pbzzhavpngvbaf 
   Qrprapl Npg!
   
   
  
  
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Re: [PHP] Dreaded Return-Path and mail()

2003-01-06 Thread David T-G
Monty --

...and then Monty said...
% 
% Okay, I've read just about everything on the Internet about how the change
% the Return-Path header in an e-mail sent using mail(), but, I STILL can't
% get it to work. All e-mail sent via PHP says Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
% and Received: (from nobody@localhost).

How interesting.

What do you get if you put

  $to = [EMAIL PROTECTED] ;
  $subj = here is a subject ;
  $body = this is the message body ;
  $hdrs = From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]\r\nReturn-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ;

  mail($to,$subj,$body,$hdrs) ;

in a php script and execute it?  If it doesn't work, what do the mail
server lots on your web server say?  I just tested this code on my box
and it worked, so if you have problems then you can figure it's your mail
setup and not your code.  If it works, expand from there in small steps :-)


HTH  HAND

:-D
-- 
David T-G  * There is too much animal courage in 
(play) [EMAIL PROTECTED] * society and not sufficient moral courage.
(work) [EMAIL PROTECTED]  -- Mary Baker Eddy, Science and Health
http://justpickone.org/davidtg/  Shpx gur Pbzzhavpngvbaf Qrprapl Npg!




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RE: [PHP] Dreaded Return-Path and mail()

2003-01-06 Thread Timothy Hitchens \(HiTCHO\)
Hmm... I would expect that your sendmail.cf (if you are using sendmail)
hasn't got
your webserver (running as eg www or apache etc) in it's trusted users
file / listing.



HiTCHO has Spoken! 
Timothy Hitchens (HiTCHO)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 

 -Original Message-
 From: David T-G [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Tuesday, 7 January 2003 10:34 AM
 To: PHP General list
 Cc: Monty
 Subject: Re: [PHP] Dreaded Return-Path and mail()
 
 
 Monty --
 
 ...and then Monty said...
 % 
 % Okay, I've read just about everything on the Internet about 
 how the change % the Return-Path header in an e-mail sent 
 using mail(), but, I STILL can't % get it to work. All e-mail 
 sent via PHP says Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] % and 
 Received: (from nobody@localhost).
 
 How interesting.
 
 What do you get if you put
 
   $to = [EMAIL PROTECTED] ;
   $subj = here is a subject ;
   $body = this is the message body ;
   $hdrs = From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]\r\nReturn-Path: 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ;
 
   mail($to,$subj,$body,$hdrs) ;
 
 in a php script and execute it?  If it doesn't work, what do 
 the mail server lots on your web server say?  I just tested 
 this code on my box and it worked, so if you have problems 
 then you can figure it's your mail setup and not your code.  
 If it works, expand from there in small steps :-)
 
 
 HTH  HAND
 
 :-D
 -- 
 David T-G  * There is too much animal courage in 
 (play) [EMAIL PROTECTED] * society and not sufficient 
 moral courage.
 (work) [EMAIL PROTECTED]  -- Mary Baker Eddy, 
 Science and Health
 http://justpickone.org/davidtg/  Shpx gur Pbzzhavpngvbaf 
 Qrprapl Npg!
 
 


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